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"Whether the intelligence responsible for the organization of living systems is a force of nature or whether it is directed by some god -- either way , life is intelligently designed ."
"And thats a point of view which has no evidence to support it ."
DISAGREE
"the intelligence responsible for the organization of living systems"
"thats a point of view which has no evidence to support it ."
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3,079
809
"Whether the intelligence responsible for the organization of living systems is a force of nature or whether it is directed by some god -- either way , life is intelligently designed ."
"And thats a point of view which has no evidence to support it ."
DISAGREE
"Whether the intelligence responsible for the organization of living systems is a force of nature or whether it is directed by some god -- either way , life is intelligently designed ."
"And thats a point of view which has no evidence to support it ."
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3,081
809
"Whether the intelligence responsible for the organization of living systems is a force of nature or whether it is directed by some god -- either way , life is intelligently designed ."
"And thats a point of view which has no evidence to support it ."
DISAGREE
"either way , life is intelligently designed ."
"has no evidence to support it ."
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3,082
809
"Whether the intelligence responsible for the organization of living systems is a force of nature or whether it is directed by some god -- either way , life is intelligently designed ."
"And thats a point of view which has no evidence to support it ."
DISAGREE
"whether it is directed by -- either way , life is designed ."
"point of view which has no to support it ."
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3,080
809
"Whether the intelligence responsible for the organization of living systems is a force of nature or whether it is directed by some god -- either way , life is intelligently designed ."
"And thats a point of view which has no evidence to support it ."
DISAGREE
"Whether the intelligence responsible for the organization of living systems is a force of nature"
"And thats a point of view which has no evidence to support it ."
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3,090
810
"Well if it was illegal , would you consider it a crime ?"
"What the Hell kind of a question is that ?"
DISAGREE
"if it was , would you consider it a"
"What the kind of a question is that ?"
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3,086
810
"Well if it was illegal , would you consider it a crime ?"
"What the Hell kind of a question is that ?"
DISAGREE
"was illegal , would you consider it a crime"
"the Hell kind of a question is that"
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3,088
810
"Well if it was illegal , would you consider it a crime ?"
"What the Hell kind of a question is that ?"
DISAGREE
"Well if it was illegal , would you consider it a crime ?"
"What the Hell kind of a question is that ?"
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3,085
810
"Well if it was illegal , would you consider it a crime ?"
"What the Hell kind of a question is that ?"
DISAGREE
"would you consider it a crime ?"
"question is that ?"
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3,089
810
"Well if it was illegal , would you consider it a crime ?"
"What the Hell kind of a question is that ?"
DISAGREE
"Well if it was illegal , would you consider it a crime ?"
"What the Hell kind of a question is that ?"
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3,096
811
"I , and most people , have a firm assumption , based on all of our and all human 's experience , that the world that we live in exists and that our experiences of the moment are real ."
"How is that based on experience ? We have no data that says 'an outside world exists ' . The assumption that such a world exists is made before we can use the data ."
DISAGREE
"I , and most people , have a firm assumption , based on all of our and all human 's experience ,"
"We have no data that says 'an outside world exists '"
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3,094
811
"I , and most people , have a firm assumption , based on all of our and all human 's experience , that the world that we live in exists and that our experiences of the moment are real ."
"How is that based on experience ? We have no data that says 'an outside world exists ' . The assumption that such a world exists is made before we can use the data ."
DISAGREE
"I , and most people , have a firm assumption ,"
"How is that based on experience ?"
null
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3,095
811
"I , and most people , have a firm assumption , based on all of our and all human 's experience , that the world that we live in exists and that our experiences of the moment are real ."
"How is that based on experience ? We have no data that says 'an outside world exists ' . The assumption that such a world exists is made before we can use the data ."
DISAGREE
"all , that the world that we live in exists and that our of the are real ."
"We have no data that says ' . The assumption that such a world exists is made we can use the data ."
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3,092
811
"I , and most people , have a firm assumption , based on all of our and all human 's experience , that the world that we live in exists and that our experiences of the moment are real ."
"How is that based on experience ? We have no data that says 'an outside world exists ' . The assumption that such a world exists is made before we can use the data ."
DISAGREE
"most people , have a firm assumption , based on all of our and all human 's experience"
"How is that based on experience ? We have no data that says 'an outside world exists"
null
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3,093
811
"I , and most people , have a firm assumption , based on all of our and all human 's experience , that the world that we live in exists and that our experiences of the moment are real ."
"How is that based on experience ? We have no data that says 'an outside world exists ' . The assumption that such a world exists is made before we can use the data ."
DISAGREE
"based on all of our and all human 's experience ,"
"How is that based on experience ?"
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3,101
812
"I think Maximus owes us an apology . http : //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9053416/"
"Well , it is interesting to not that two of the five researchers have ties to the abortion industry . One of them runs an abortion clinic ; another formerly served as an attorney for NARAL . Neither researcher disclosed this information to JAMA . This is an incidence of researcher bias entering into the scientific method . And your belief in this article takes faith . Steve Calvin August 30 , 2005 In the Minneapolis Star-Tribune Last week 's article on fetal pain in the Journal of the American Medical Association proves the desperation of the defenders of unrestricted abortion . The article reviews medical literature and concludes that fetuses are unlikely to feel pain prior to 30 weeks gestation . The authors were clearly motivated to write what I view as a medical fantasy to counter proposed federal legislation that would limit abortion in the second trimester . The legislation would require informing women considering abortion that fetuses beyond 20 weeks feel pain and would require anesthesia for the fetus . Twenty-five years of delivering babies and a specialization in high-risk obstetrics provide me some experience to refute the claim that fetuses feel no pain until 30 weeks . Many of the tiny babies that I deliver , some as small as 1 pound at 23 weeks , have required surgery during their difficult neonatal battle for life . All of them receive anesthesia . Before the 1970s , many newborns , both term and preterm , were operated on without anesthesia in the mistaken belief that they could not feel pain . They certainly could n't tell anyone about their discomfort . With more sophisticated monitoring it became clear that blood pressure and pulse rose dramatically during the trauma of surgery . Subsequently , a subspecialty of pediatric anesthesia developed . Those who deny fetal pain claim that hormonal and withdrawal responses to invasive procedures are mere reflexes and are no evidence of pain . Recently , I performed an amniocentesis on a patient at 21 weeks gestation because of a possible infection . On ultrasound , the fetus pulled away from the needle when it grazed her arm . It is clear to me that this fetus felt discomfort , and that she would feel horrible pain if she were dismembered in the exercise of an unjust constitutional right . The medical literature duel over abortion has been quite one-sided since most of the medical hierarchy is ardently pro-abortion . There are , however , courageous exceptions . The most important medical study on abortion this year got absolutely no media coverage . A French study in the April 2005 British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology convincingly showed that a previous abortion increased the risk of subsequent delivery at 22 to 27 weeks by 70 percent . Premature birth has heavy personal and societal costs , yet the alarm over the increasing rate of prematurity ignores the abortion connection . The fight over requirements for informed consent prior to abortion continues because abortion defenders refuse to accept any restriction on this manufactured constitutional right to exercise prenatal lethal violence . Their blind orthodoxy requires denial of fetal pain and willful ignorance of the significant long-term consequences of abortion . Steve Calvin is a Minneapolis physician ."
AGREE
"owes us an apology ."
"Well , it is interesting to not that two of the five researchers have ties to the abortion industry ."
null
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3,097
812
"I think Maximus owes us an apology . http : //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9053416/"
"Well , it is interesting to not that two of the five researchers have ties to the abortion industry . One of them runs an abortion clinic ; another formerly served as an attorney for NARAL . Neither researcher disclosed this information to JAMA . This is an incidence of researcher bias entering into the scientific method . And your belief in this article takes faith . Steve Calvin August 30 , 2005 In the Minneapolis Star-Tribune Last week 's article on fetal pain in the Journal of the American Medical Association proves the desperation of the defenders of unrestricted abortion . The article reviews medical literature and concludes that fetuses are unlikely to feel pain prior to 30 weeks gestation . The authors were clearly motivated to write what I view as a medical fantasy to counter proposed federal legislation that would limit abortion in the second trimester . The legislation would require informing women considering abortion that fetuses beyond 20 weeks feel pain and would require anesthesia for the fetus . Twenty-five years of delivering babies and a specialization in high-risk obstetrics provide me some experience to refute the claim that fetuses feel no pain until 30 weeks . Many of the tiny babies that I deliver , some as small as 1 pound at 23 weeks , have required surgery during their difficult neonatal battle for life . All of them receive anesthesia . Before the 1970s , many newborns , both term and preterm , were operated on without anesthesia in the mistaken belief that they could not feel pain . They certainly could n't tell anyone about their discomfort . With more sophisticated monitoring it became clear that blood pressure and pulse rose dramatically during the trauma of surgery . Subsequently , a subspecialty of pediatric anesthesia developed . Those who deny fetal pain claim that hormonal and withdrawal responses to invasive procedures are mere reflexes and are no evidence of pain . Recently , I performed an amniocentesis on a patient at 21 weeks gestation because of a possible infection . On ultrasound , the fetus pulled away from the needle when it grazed her arm . It is clear to me that this fetus felt discomfort , and that she would feel horrible pain if she were dismembered in the exercise of an unjust constitutional right . The medical literature duel over abortion has been quite one-sided since most of the medical hierarchy is ardently pro-abortion . There are , however , courageous exceptions . The most important medical study on abortion this year got absolutely no media coverage . A French study in the April 2005 British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology convincingly showed that a previous abortion increased the risk of subsequent delivery at 22 to 27 weeks by 70 percent . Premature birth has heavy personal and societal costs , yet the alarm over the increasing rate of prematurity ignores the abortion connection . The fight over requirements for informed consent prior to abortion continues because abortion defenders refuse to accept any restriction on this manufactured constitutional right to exercise prenatal lethal violence . Their blind orthodoxy requires denial of fetal pain and willful ignorance of the significant long-term consequences of abortion . Steve Calvin is a Minneapolis physician ."
AGREE
"I think Maximus owes us an apology . http : //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9053416/"
"A French study in the April 2005 British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology convincingly showed that a previous abortion increased the risk of subsequent delivery at 22 to 27 weeks by 70 percent . Premature birth has heavy personal and societal costs , yet the alarm over the increasing rate of prematurity ignores the abortion connection . The fight over requirements for informed consent prior to abortion continues because abortion defenders refuse to accept any restriction on this manufactured constitutional right to exercise prenatal lethal violence . Their blind orthodoxy requires denial of fetal pain and willful ignorance of the significant long-term consequences of abortion . Steve Calvin is a Minneapolis physician ."
null
null
3,102
812
"I think Maximus owes us an apology . http : //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9053416/"
"Well , it is interesting to not that two of the five researchers have ties to the abortion industry . One of them runs an abortion clinic ; another formerly served as an attorney for NARAL . Neither researcher disclosed this information to JAMA . This is an incidence of researcher bias entering into the scientific method . And your belief in this article takes faith . Steve Calvin August 30 , 2005 In the Minneapolis Star-Tribune Last week 's article on fetal pain in the Journal of the American Medical Association proves the desperation of the defenders of unrestricted abortion . The article reviews medical literature and concludes that fetuses are unlikely to feel pain prior to 30 weeks gestation . The authors were clearly motivated to write what I view as a medical fantasy to counter proposed federal legislation that would limit abortion in the second trimester . The legislation would require informing women considering abortion that fetuses beyond 20 weeks feel pain and would require anesthesia for the fetus . Twenty-five years of delivering babies and a specialization in high-risk obstetrics provide me some experience to refute the claim that fetuses feel no pain until 30 weeks . Many of the tiny babies that I deliver , some as small as 1 pound at 23 weeks , have required surgery during their difficult neonatal battle for life . All of them receive anesthesia . Before the 1970s , many newborns , both term and preterm , were operated on without anesthesia in the mistaken belief that they could not feel pain . They certainly could n't tell anyone about their discomfort . With more sophisticated monitoring it became clear that blood pressure and pulse rose dramatically during the trauma of surgery . Subsequently , a subspecialty of pediatric anesthesia developed . Those who deny fetal pain claim that hormonal and withdrawal responses to invasive procedures are mere reflexes and are no evidence of pain . Recently , I performed an amniocentesis on a patient at 21 weeks gestation because of a possible infection . On ultrasound , the fetus pulled away from the needle when it grazed her arm . It is clear to me that this fetus felt discomfort , and that she would feel horrible pain if she were dismembered in the exercise of an unjust constitutional right . The medical literature duel over abortion has been quite one-sided since most of the medical hierarchy is ardently pro-abortion . There are , however , courageous exceptions . The most important medical study on abortion this year got absolutely no media coverage . A French study in the April 2005 British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology convincingly showed that a previous abortion increased the risk of subsequent delivery at 22 to 27 weeks by 70 percent . Premature birth has heavy personal and societal costs , yet the alarm over the increasing rate of prematurity ignores the abortion connection . The fight over requirements for informed consent prior to abortion continues because abortion defenders refuse to accept any restriction on this manufactured constitutional right to exercise prenatal lethal violence . Their blind orthodoxy requires denial of fetal pain and willful ignorance of the significant long-term consequences of abortion . Steve Calvin is a Minneapolis physician ."
AGREE
"I think Maximus owes us an apology ."
"Well , it is interesting to not that two of the five researchers have ties to the abortion industry"
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3,098
812
"I think Maximus owes us an apology . http : //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9053416/"
"Well , it is interesting to not that two of the five researchers have ties to the abortion industry . One of them runs an abortion clinic ; another formerly served as an attorney for NARAL . Neither researcher disclosed this information to JAMA . This is an incidence of researcher bias entering into the scientific method . And your belief in this article takes faith . Steve Calvin August 30 , 2005 In the Minneapolis Star-Tribune Last week 's article on fetal pain in the Journal of the American Medical Association proves the desperation of the defenders of unrestricted abortion . The article reviews medical literature and concludes that fetuses are unlikely to feel pain prior to 30 weeks gestation . The authors were clearly motivated to write what I view as a medical fantasy to counter proposed federal legislation that would limit abortion in the second trimester . The legislation would require informing women considering abortion that fetuses beyond 20 weeks feel pain and would require anesthesia for the fetus . Twenty-five years of delivering babies and a specialization in high-risk obstetrics provide me some experience to refute the claim that fetuses feel no pain until 30 weeks . Many of the tiny babies that I deliver , some as small as 1 pound at 23 weeks , have required surgery during their difficult neonatal battle for life . All of them receive anesthesia . Before the 1970s , many newborns , both term and preterm , were operated on without anesthesia in the mistaken belief that they could not feel pain . They certainly could n't tell anyone about their discomfort . With more sophisticated monitoring it became clear that blood pressure and pulse rose dramatically during the trauma of surgery . Subsequently , a subspecialty of pediatric anesthesia developed . Those who deny fetal pain claim that hormonal and withdrawal responses to invasive procedures are mere reflexes and are no evidence of pain . Recently , I performed an amniocentesis on a patient at 21 weeks gestation because of a possible infection . On ultrasound , the fetus pulled away from the needle when it grazed her arm . It is clear to me that this fetus felt discomfort , and that she would feel horrible pain if she were dismembered in the exercise of an unjust constitutional right . The medical literature duel over abortion has been quite one-sided since most of the medical hierarchy is ardently pro-abortion . There are , however , courageous exceptions . The most important medical study on abortion this year got absolutely no media coverage . A French study in the April 2005 British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology convincingly showed that a previous abortion increased the risk of subsequent delivery at 22 to 27 weeks by 70 percent . Premature birth has heavy personal and societal costs , yet the alarm over the increasing rate of prematurity ignores the abortion connection . The fight over requirements for informed consent prior to abortion continues because abortion defenders refuse to accept any restriction on this manufactured constitutional right to exercise prenatal lethal violence . Their blind orthodoxy requires denial of fetal pain and willful ignorance of the significant long-term consequences of abortion . Steve Calvin is a Minneapolis physician ."
AGREE
"I think Maximus owes us an ."
"in the All of them receive . Before the , many newborns , both and preterm , were operated on without belief that they could not feel pain"
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3,099
812
"I think Maximus owes us an apology . http : //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9053416/"
"Well , it is interesting to not that two of the five researchers have ties to the abortion industry . One of them runs an abortion clinic ; another formerly served as an attorney for NARAL . Neither researcher disclosed this information to JAMA . This is an incidence of researcher bias entering into the scientific method . And your belief in this article takes faith . Steve Calvin August 30 , 2005 In the Minneapolis Star-Tribune Last week 's article on fetal pain in the Journal of the American Medical Association proves the desperation of the defenders of unrestricted abortion . The article reviews medical literature and concludes that fetuses are unlikely to feel pain prior to 30 weeks gestation . The authors were clearly motivated to write what I view as a medical fantasy to counter proposed federal legislation that would limit abortion in the second trimester . The legislation would require informing women considering abortion that fetuses beyond 20 weeks feel pain and would require anesthesia for the fetus . Twenty-five years of delivering babies and a specialization in high-risk obstetrics provide me some experience to refute the claim that fetuses feel no pain until 30 weeks . Many of the tiny babies that I deliver , some as small as 1 pound at 23 weeks , have required surgery during their difficult neonatal battle for life . All of them receive anesthesia . Before the 1970s , many newborns , both term and preterm , were operated on without anesthesia in the mistaken belief that they could not feel pain . They certainly could n't tell anyone about their discomfort . With more sophisticated monitoring it became clear that blood pressure and pulse rose dramatically during the trauma of surgery . Subsequently , a subspecialty of pediatric anesthesia developed . Those who deny fetal pain claim that hormonal and withdrawal responses to invasive procedures are mere reflexes and are no evidence of pain . Recently , I performed an amniocentesis on a patient at 21 weeks gestation because of a possible infection . On ultrasound , the fetus pulled away from the needle when it grazed her arm . It is clear to me that this fetus felt discomfort , and that she would feel horrible pain if she were dismembered in the exercise of an unjust constitutional right . The medical literature duel over abortion has been quite one-sided since most of the medical hierarchy is ardently pro-abortion . There are , however , courageous exceptions . The most important medical study on abortion this year got absolutely no media coverage . A French study in the April 2005 British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology convincingly showed that a previous abortion increased the risk of subsequent delivery at 22 to 27 weeks by 70 percent . Premature birth has heavy personal and societal costs , yet the alarm over the increasing rate of prematurity ignores the abortion connection . The fight over requirements for informed consent prior to abortion continues because abortion defenders refuse to accept any restriction on this manufactured constitutional right to exercise prenatal lethal violence . Their blind orthodoxy requires denial of fetal pain and willful ignorance of the significant long-term consequences of abortion . Steve Calvin is a Minneapolis physician ."
AGREE
"I think Maximus owes us an apology . http : //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9053416/"
"it is interesting to not that two of the five researchers have ties to the abortion industry ."
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3,103
813
"This is not true . The wording is highly misleading , because it implies that according to evolutionary theory there were human-ancestors and chimp-ancestors side by side in the primordial ooze ; there were 'us ' and 'them ' . That is absolutely and categorically not the case . I know you insist you understand what evolutionary theory claims , but statements like this demonstrate otherwise . I do n't know what to do except try to help you understand better ."
"I know , because I do n't believe there was any primordial ooze at all . But you do . And you also believe that simple celled life formed in that ooze , then evolved into bacteria to enzymes then amino acids , ( not necessarily in that order ) leading to more complex life forms which eventually crawled out of that ooze and breathed air as amphibians , then to reptiles which some how evolved wings to become birds , and through all of this alleged conglomeration of life came mammals after the Dinos were forced into extinction by that big ole comet . And do n't bother telling me that they believe birds came from Dinos because I 'm aware of that belief too . But none of it can be proven at all when all is said and done ."
DISAGREE
"The wording is highly misleading , because it implies that according to evolutionary theory"
"And do n't bother telling me that they believe birds came from Dinos because I 'm aware of that belief too ."
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3,105
813
"This is not true . The wording is highly misleading , because it implies that according to evolutionary theory there were human-ancestors and chimp-ancestors side by side in the primordial ooze ; there were 'us ' and 'them ' . That is absolutely and categorically not the case . I know you insist you understand what evolutionary theory claims , but statements like this demonstrate otherwise . I do n't know what to do except try to help you understand better ."
"I know , because I do n't believe there was any primordial ooze at all . But you do . And you also believe that simple celled life formed in that ooze , then evolved into bacteria to enzymes then amino acids , ( not necessarily in that order ) leading to more complex life forms which eventually crawled out of that ooze and breathed air as amphibians , then to reptiles which some how evolved wings to become birds , and through all of this alleged conglomeration of life came mammals after the Dinos were forced into extinction by that big ole comet . And do n't bother telling me that they believe birds came from Dinos because I 'm aware of that belief too . But none of it can be proven at all when all is said and done ."
DISAGREE
"The wording is highly misleading , because it implies that according to evolutionary theory there were human-ancestors and chimp-ancestors side by side in the primordial ooze"
"I know , because I do n't believe there was any primordial ooze at all . But you do . And you also believe that simple celled life formed in that ooze"
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3,104
813
"This is not true . The wording is highly misleading , because it implies that according to evolutionary theory there were human-ancestors and chimp-ancestors side by side in the primordial ooze ; there were 'us ' and 'them ' . That is absolutely and categorically not the case . I know you insist you understand what evolutionary theory claims , but statements like this demonstrate otherwise . I do n't know what to do except try to help you understand better ."
"I know , because I do n't believe there was any primordial ooze at all . But you do . And you also believe that simple celled life formed in that ooze , then evolved into bacteria to enzymes then amino acids , ( not necessarily in that order ) leading to more complex life forms which eventually crawled out of that ooze and breathed air as amphibians , then to reptiles which some how evolved wings to become birds , and through all of this alleged conglomeration of life came mammals after the Dinos were forced into extinction by that big ole comet . And do n't bother telling me that they believe birds came from Dinos because I 'm aware of that belief too . But none of it can be proven at all when all is said and done ."
DISAGREE
"That is absolutely and categorically not the case ."
"bother telling me that they believe birds came from Dinos because I 'm aware of that belief too . But none of it can be proven at all when all is said and done ."
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3,106
813
"This is not true . The wording is highly misleading , because it implies that according to evolutionary theory there were human-ancestors and chimp-ancestors side by side in the primordial ooze ; there were 'us ' and 'them ' . That is absolutely and categorically not the case . I know you insist you understand what evolutionary theory claims , but statements like this demonstrate otherwise . I do n't know what to do except try to help you understand better ."
"I know , because I do n't believe there was any primordial ooze at all . But you do . And you also believe that simple celled life formed in that ooze , then evolved into bacteria to enzymes then amino acids , ( not necessarily in that order ) leading to more complex life forms which eventually crawled out of that ooze and breathed air as amphibians , then to reptiles which some how evolved wings to become birds , and through all of this alleged conglomeration of life came mammals after the Dinos were forced into extinction by that big ole comet . And do n't bother telling me that they believe birds came from Dinos because I 'm aware of that belief too . But none of it can be proven at all when all is said and done ."
DISAGREE
"evolutionary theory primordial ooze"
"I know , because I do n't believe there was any primordial ooze at all . But you do And you also believe that simple celled life formed in that ooze more complex life forms which eventually crawled out of that ooze amphibians , then to reptiles which some how evolved wings to become birds , and through all of this alleged conglomeration of life came mammals after the Dinos were forced into extinction by that big ole comet . And do n't bother telling me that they believe birds came from Dinos because I 'm aware of that belief too ."
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814
"How infantile . Still , even after this change Kansas is the laughing stock of the world ."
"Hate to have to spoil things , but the rest of the world has really no interest at all in Kansas and its scholastic problems"
DISAGREE
"even after this change Kansas is the laughing stock of the world ."
"the rest of the world has really no interest at all in Kansas and its scholastic problems"
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814
"How infantile . Still , even after this change Kansas is the laughing stock of the world ."
"Hate to have to spoil things , but the rest of the world has really no interest at all in Kansas and its scholastic problems"
DISAGREE
"even after this change Kansas is the laughing stock of the world ."
"but the rest of the world has really no interest at all in Kansas"
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3,110
814
"How infantile . Still , even after this change Kansas is the laughing stock of the world ."
"Hate to have to spoil things , but the rest of the world has really no interest at all in Kansas and its scholastic problems"
DISAGREE
"change Kansas is the laughing stock of the world ."
"spoil things , but the rest of the world has really no interest at all in Kansas"
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3,109
814
"How infantile . Still , even after this change Kansas is the laughing stock of the world ."
"Hate to have to spoil things , but the rest of the world has really no interest at all in Kansas and its scholastic problems"
DISAGREE
"How infantile Kansas is the laughing stock of the world ."
"Hate to have to spoil things the rest of the world has really no interest at all in Kansas and its scholastic problems"
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3,112
814
"How infantile . Still , even after this change Kansas is the laughing stock of the world ."
"Hate to have to spoil things , but the rest of the world has really no interest at all in Kansas and its scholastic problems"
DISAGREE
"Still , even after this change Kansas is the laughing stock of the world ."
"the rest of the world has really no interest at all in Kansas and its scholastic problems"
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815
"Originally posted by DarKnight `` in for a penny , in for a pound `` mentality would mean gun rampages would be worse because instead of using their .38 `` weekend fun `` pistols they 'll switch to automatic assault weapons ( which , imported illegally from the middle east/asia , kalashnikov rifles are CHEAPER then domestic US pistols ) ."
"Oh ! Did you mean something like this in gun free France : http : //www.guardian.co.uk/internatio ... ews+-+guardian Those weapons were cheap and from an eastern block country . Machine guns are for sissy American felons . Real felons in gun free France use anti-tank weapons ."
DISAGREE
"for a penny , in for a pound `` mentality would mean gun rampages would be worse because instead of using their ."
"Those weapons were cheap and from an eastern block country . Machine guns are for sissy American felons . Real felons in gun free France use anti-tank weapons ."
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815
"Originally posted by DarKnight `` in for a penny , in for a pound `` mentality would mean gun rampages would be worse because instead of using their .38 `` weekend fun `` pistols they 'll switch to automatic assault weapons ( which , imported illegally from the middle east/asia , kalashnikov rifles are CHEAPER then domestic US pistols ) ."
"Oh ! Did you mean something like this in gun free France : http : //www.guardian.co.uk/internatio ... ews+-+guardian Those weapons were cheap and from an eastern block country . Machine guns are for sissy American felons . Real felons in gun free France use anti-tank weapons ."
DISAGREE
"mentality would mean gun rampages would be worse because instead of using their .38 `` weekend fun `` pistols they 'll switch to automatic assault weapons which , imported illegally from the middle east/asia , kalashnikov rifles domestic US"
"Oh ! Did you mean something like this in gun free France : http : //www.guardian.co.uk/internatio ... ews+-+guardian Those weapons were cheap and from an eastern block country . Machine guns are for sissy American felons . Real felons in gun free France use anti-tank weapons ."
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815
"Originally posted by DarKnight `` in for a penny , in for a pound `` mentality would mean gun rampages would be worse because instead of using their .38 `` weekend fun `` pistols they 'll switch to automatic assault weapons ( which , imported illegally from the middle east/asia , kalashnikov rifles are CHEAPER then domestic US pistols ) ."
"Oh ! Did you mean something like this in gun free France : http : //www.guardian.co.uk/internatio ... ews+-+guardian Those weapons were cheap and from an eastern block country . Machine guns are for sissy American felons . Real felons in gun free France use anti-tank weapons ."
DISAGREE
"in for a penny , in for a pound `` mentality would mean gun rampages would be worse because instead of using their .38 `` weekend fun ``"
"Did you mean something like this in gun free France : http : //www.guardian.co.uk/internatio ... ews+-+guardian Those weapons were cheap and from an eastern block country ."
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"Originally posted by DarKnight `` in for a penny , in for a pound `` mentality would mean gun rampages would be worse because instead of using their .38 `` weekend fun `` pistols they 'll switch to automatic assault weapons ( which , imported illegally from the middle east/asia , kalashnikov rifles are CHEAPER then domestic US pistols ) ."
"Oh ! Did you mean something like this in gun free France : http : //www.guardian.co.uk/internatio ... ews+-+guardian Those weapons were cheap and from an eastern block country . Machine guns are for sissy American felons . Real felons in gun free France use anti-tank weapons ."
DISAGREE
"mentality would mean gun rampages would be worse because instead of using their"
"Real felons in gun free France use anti-tank weapons ."
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"The golden rule is not just one sided . It does not expect us to do all giving and no taking . I have expectations of how others should treat me ( the taking part ) but , to be consistent , I should realize that they have expectations of me ( the giving part ) ."
"Upon reviewing the golden rule `` do unto others as you would have them do unto you `` I see nothing of any other 'side . ' It 's very clear -- treat others the way you 'd want to be treated . No one wants to be treated badly , so if you follow the golden rule , you 'll be benevolent ."
DISAGREE
"The golden rule is not just one sided . It does not expect us to do all giving and no taking ."
"Upon reviewing the golden rule `` do unto others as you would have them do unto you '"
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"The golden rule is not just one sided . It does not expect us to do all giving and no taking . I have expectations of how others should treat me ( the taking part ) but , to be consistent , I should realize that they have expectations of me ( the giving part ) ."
"Upon reviewing the golden rule `` do unto others as you would have them do unto you `` I see nothing of any other 'side . ' It 's very clear -- treat others the way you 'd want to be treated . No one wants to be treated badly , so if you follow the golden rule , you 'll be benevolent ."
DISAGREE
"I have expectations of how others should treat me ( the taking part )"
"you would have them do unto you `` I see nothing of any other 'side ."
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"The golden rule is not just one sided . It does not expect us to do all giving and no taking . I have expectations of how others should treat me ( the taking part ) but , to be consistent , I should realize that they have expectations of me ( the giving part ) ."
"Upon reviewing the golden rule `` do unto others as you would have them do unto you `` I see nothing of any other 'side . ' It 's very clear -- treat others the way you 'd want to be treated . No one wants to be treated badly , so if you follow the golden rule , you 'll be benevolent ."
DISAGREE
"I have expectations of how others should treat me ( the taking part )"
"I see nothing of any other 'side . ' It 's very clear -- treat"
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"The golden rule is not just one sided . It does not expect us to do all giving and no taking . I have expectations of how others should treat me ( the taking part ) but , to be consistent , I should realize that they have expectations of me ( the giving part ) ."
"Upon reviewing the golden rule `` do unto others as you would have them do unto you `` I see nothing of any other 'side . ' It 's very clear -- treat others the way you 'd want to be treated . No one wants to be treated badly , so if you follow the golden rule , you 'll be benevolent ."
DISAGREE
"It does not expect us to do all giving and no taking . I have expectations of how others should treat me ( the taking part )"
"the It 's very clear -- treat others the way you 'd want to be treated . No one wants to be treated badly , so if you follow the golden rule , you 'll be benevolent ."
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"I am most interested in your demonstration that your mind controls your genes . I challenge you to make yourself striped like a tiger by altering with your mind your own geneome and then have children with the same stripes in order to show that your mind driven alteration is in fact genetic ! Good luck ."
"Well that 's just like a good darwinist to make a ridiculous challenge . What I can show , however , is that thoughts , emotions and social settings can re-express genes , which can lead not only to a change in phenotype , but also to new , heritable traits passed down to future generations . You guys ' hypothesis that it takes a new or changed gene for `` evolution `` ( ie .. change in population over time ) to take place is unsupported , unscientific , un-proven -- and ultimately wrong ."
DISAGREE
"I challenge you to make yourself striped like a tiger by altering with your mind your own geneome and then have children with the same stripes in order to show that your mind driven alteration is in fact genetic"
"that 's just like a good darwinist to make a ridiculous challenge . What I can show , however , is that thoughts , emotions and social settings can re-express genes , which can lead not only to a change in phenotype"
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"I am most interested in your demonstration that your mind controls your genes . I challenge you to make yourself striped like a tiger by altering with your mind your own geneome and then have children with the same stripes in order to show that your mind driven alteration is in fact genetic ! Good luck ."
"Well that 's just like a good darwinist to make a ridiculous challenge . What I can show , however , is that thoughts , emotions and social settings can re-express genes , which can lead not only to a change in phenotype , but also to new , heritable traits passed down to future generations . You guys ' hypothesis that it takes a new or changed gene for `` evolution `` ( ie .. change in population over time ) to take place is unsupported , unscientific , un-proven -- and ultimately wrong ."
DISAGREE
"I challenge you to make yourself striped like a tiger by altering with your mind"
"new , heritable traits passed down to future generations ."
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"I am most interested in your demonstration that your mind controls your genes . I challenge you to make yourself striped like a tiger by altering with your mind your own geneome and then have children with the same stripes in order to show that your mind driven alteration is in fact genetic ! Good luck ."
"Well that 's just like a good darwinist to make a ridiculous challenge . What I can show , however , is that thoughts , emotions and social settings can re-express genes , which can lead not only to a change in phenotype , but also to new , heritable traits passed down to future generations . You guys ' hypothesis that it takes a new or changed gene for `` evolution `` ( ie .. change in population over time ) to take place is unsupported , unscientific , un-proven -- and ultimately wrong ."
DISAGREE
"demonstration that your mind controls your genes I challenge you to make yourself striped like a tiger by altering with your mind your own geneome"
"Well that 's just like a good darwinist to make a ridiculous challenge . What I can show , however , is that thoughts , emotions and social settings can re-express genes , which can lead not only to a change in phenotype , but also to new , heritable traits passed down to future generations . ``"
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"I am most interested in your demonstration that your mind controls your genes . I challenge you to make yourself striped like a tiger by altering with your mind your own geneome and then have children with the same stripes in order to show that your mind driven alteration is in fact genetic ! Good luck ."
"Well that 's just like a good darwinist to make a ridiculous challenge . What I can show , however , is that thoughts , emotions and social settings can re-express genes , which can lead not only to a change in phenotype , but also to new , heritable traits passed down to future generations . You guys ' hypothesis that it takes a new or changed gene for `` evolution `` ( ie .. change in population over time ) to take place is unsupported , unscientific , un-proven -- and ultimately wrong ."
DISAGREE
"I challenge you to make yourself striped like a tiger by altering with your mind your own geneome"
"What I can show , however , is that thoughts , emotions and social settings"
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"Is this a rational statement ? If so , prove it rationally , by science ."
"OK. Evolution claims nothing that is outside the realm of the knowable . It 's by that definition , rational . The entire theory , as is all knowledge , is subject to evidence , not being self-contradictory ( as your statements often are ) , and not contradicting some other validated knowledge . Evolution meets these requirements , and is therefore entirely rational . Anything else ?"
DISAGREE
"Is this a rational statement ? If so , prove it rationally , by science ."
"Evolution claims nothing that is outside the realm of the knowable . It 's by that definition , rational ."
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"Is this a rational statement ? If so , prove it rationally , by science ."
"OK. Evolution claims nothing that is outside the realm of the knowable . It 's by that definition , rational . The entire theory , as is all knowledge , is subject to evidence , not being self-contradictory ( as your statements often are ) , and not contradicting some other validated knowledge . Evolution meets these requirements , and is therefore entirely rational . Anything else ?"
DISAGREE
"Is this a rational statement ? If so , prove it rationally ,"
"The entire theory , as is all knowledge , is subject to evidence"
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"Is this a rational statement ? If so , prove it rationally , by science ."
"OK. Evolution claims nothing that is outside the realm of the knowable . It 's by that definition , rational . The entire theory , as is all knowledge , is subject to evidence , not being self-contradictory ( as your statements often are ) , and not contradicting some other validated knowledge . Evolution meets these requirements , and is therefore entirely rational . Anything else ?"
DISAGREE
"If so , prove it rationally , by science ."
"Evolution meets these requirements , and is therefore entirely rational"
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"Is this a rational statement ? If so , prove it rationally , by science ."
"OK. Evolution claims nothing that is outside the realm of the knowable . It 's by that definition , rational . The entire theory , as is all knowledge , is subject to evidence , not being self-contradictory ( as your statements often are ) , and not contradicting some other validated knowledge . Evolution meets these requirements , and is therefore entirely rational . Anything else ?"
DISAGREE
"rational statement ."
"Evolution meets these requirements , and is therefore entirely rational ."
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"Is this a rational statement ? If so , prove it rationally , by science ."
"OK. Evolution claims nothing that is outside the realm of the knowable . It 's by that definition , rational . The entire theory , as is all knowledge , is subject to evidence , not being self-contradictory ( as your statements often are ) , and not contradicting some other validated knowledge . Evolution meets these requirements , and is therefore entirely rational . Anything else ?"
DISAGREE
"prove it rationally science"
"OK. Evolution claims nothing that is outside the realm of the knowable . It 's by that definition , rational . evidence Evolution meets these requirements , and is therefore entirely rational ."
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"For instance , she has also listed the `` tornado in a hangar assembling a 747 `` argument against abiogenesis , which I know was fed to her and to which not one atheist here could resist replying at least , `` Umm , not quite ... ``"
"Well , my reply probably would n't be that polite ..."
DISAGREE
"argument against abiogenesis , which I know was fed to her and to which not one atheist"
"Well , my reply probably would n't be that polite"
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"For instance , she has also listed the `` tornado in a hangar assembling a 747 `` argument against abiogenesis , which I know was fed to her and to which not one atheist here could resist replying at least , `` Umm , not quite ... ``"
"Well , my reply probably would n't be that polite ..."
DISAGREE
"which not one atheist here could resist replying at least , `` Umm , not quite ... ``"
"Well my reply probably would n't be that polite ..."
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"All this proves is that atheists/ secular humanists/ evolutionists ca n't even consider an opposing perspective that seeks to answer the question they ask ."
"And how does that perspective even deal with the problem of limited ATP production in a low oxygen atmosphere ? I suspect you do n't understand the question . You 're completely avoiding the issue of oxygen in the first place . You do n't even understand the very basics of biology !"
DISAGREE
"All this proves is that atheists/ secular humanists/ evolutionists ca n't even consider an opposing perspective that seeks to answer the question they ask ."
"And how does that perspective even deal with the problem of limited ATP production in a low oxygen atmosphere ?"
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"All this proves is that atheists/ secular humanists/ evolutionists ca n't even consider an opposing perspective that seeks to answer the question they ask ."
"And how does that perspective even deal with the problem of limited ATP production in a low oxygen atmosphere ? I suspect you do n't understand the question . You 're completely avoiding the issue of oxygen in the first place . You do n't even understand the very basics of biology !"
DISAGREE
"All this proves is that atheists/ secular humanists/ evolutionists ca n't even consider an opposing perspective that seeks to answer the question they ask ."
"how does that perspective even deal with the problem of limited ATP production in a low oxygen atmosphere ?"
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"All this proves is that atheists/ secular humanists/ evolutionists ca n't even consider an opposing perspective that seeks to answer the question they ask ."
"And how does that perspective even deal with the problem of limited ATP production in a low oxygen atmosphere ? I suspect you do n't understand the question . You 're completely avoiding the issue of oxygen in the first place . You do n't even understand the very basics of biology !"
DISAGREE
"atheists/ secular humanists/ evolutionists ca n't even consider an opposing perspective"
"And how does that perspective even deal with the problem of limited ATP production in a low oxygen atmosphere ? You do n't even understand the very basics of biology !"
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"All this proves is that atheists/ secular humanists/ evolutionists ca n't even consider an opposing perspective that seeks to answer the question they ask ."
"And how does that perspective even deal with the problem of limited ATP production in a low oxygen atmosphere ? I suspect you do n't understand the question . You 're completely avoiding the issue of oxygen in the first place . You do n't even understand the very basics of biology !"
DISAGREE
"atheists/ secular humanists/ evolutionists ca n't even consider an opposing perspective"
"even understand the very basics of biology"
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"All this proves is that atheists/ secular humanists/ evolutionists ca n't even consider an opposing perspective that seeks to answer the question they ask ."
"And how does that perspective even deal with the problem of limited ATP production in a low oxygen atmosphere ? I suspect you do n't understand the question . You 're completely avoiding the issue of oxygen in the first place . You do n't even understand the very basics of biology !"
DISAGREE
"ca n't even consider an opposing perspective that seeks to answer the question they ask"
"I suspect you do n't understand the question ."
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"All this proves is that atheists/ secular humanists/ evolutionists ca n't even consider an opposing perspective that seeks to answer the question they ask ."
"And how does that perspective even deal with the problem of limited ATP production in a low oxygen atmosphere ? I suspect you do n't understand the question . You 're completely avoiding the issue of oxygen in the first place . You do n't even understand the very basics of biology !"
DISAGREE
"ca n't even consider an opposing perspective answer the question they ask ."
"how does that perspective even deal with the problem I suspect you do n't understand the question ."
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"Do you claim this happened by mutation ? If so , what sort of mutation ?"
"Yes , it happened through mutation . What do you mean by `` what sort `` ? I assume you 're looking for something more in depth than `` the genetic sort `` . I 'm afraid I ca n't rattle off the difference in the sequences if that 's what you want . If that 's not what you want than you 'll have to ask a more specific question ."
AGREE
"Do you claim this happened by mutation ? If so , what sort of mutation ?"
"Yes , it happened through mutation . `` I 'm afraid I ca n't rattle off the difference in the sequences if that 's what you want ."
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"Do you claim this happened by mutation ? If so , what sort of mutation ?"
"Yes , it happened through mutation . What do you mean by `` what sort `` ? I assume you 're looking for something more in depth than `` the genetic sort `` . I 'm afraid I ca n't rattle off the difference in the sequences if that 's what you want . If that 's not what you want than you 'll have to ask a more specific question ."
AGREE
"Do you claim this happened by mutation ? If so , what sort of mutation ?"
"Yes , it happened through mutation ."
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"Do you claim this happened by mutation ? If so , what sort of mutation ?"
"Yes , it happened through mutation . What do you mean by `` what sort `` ? I assume you 're looking for something more in depth than `` the genetic sort `` . I 'm afraid I ca n't rattle off the difference in the sequences if that 's what you want . If that 's not what you want than you 'll have to ask a more specific question ."
AGREE
"Do you claim this happened by mutation ?"
"Yes ,"
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"Do you claim this happened by mutation ? If so , what sort of mutation ?"
"Yes , it happened through mutation . What do you mean by `` what sort `` ? I assume you 're looking for something more in depth than `` the genetic sort `` . I 'm afraid I ca n't rattle off the difference in the sequences if that 's what you want . If that 's not what you want than you 'll have to ask a more specific question ."
AGREE
"claim this happened by mutation"
"assume you 're looking for something more in depth than `` the genetic sort"
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"Do you claim this happened by mutation ? If so , what sort of mutation ?"
"Yes , it happened through mutation . What do you mean by `` what sort `` ? I assume you 're looking for something more in depth than `` the genetic sort `` . I 'm afraid I ca n't rattle off the difference in the sequences if that 's what you want . If that 's not what you want than you 'll have to ask a more specific question ."
AGREE
"Do you claim this happened by mutation ? If so , what sort of mutation ?"
"Yes , it happened through mutation What do you mean by `` what sort `` ? I assume you 're looking for something more in depth than `` the genetic sort `` . I 'm afraid I ca n't rattle off the difference in the sequences if that 's what you want ."
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"Do you claim this happened by mutation ? If so , what sort of mutation ?"
"Yes , it happened through mutation . What do you mean by `` what sort `` ? I assume you 're looking for something more in depth than `` the genetic sort `` . I 'm afraid I ca n't rattle off the difference in the sequences if that 's what you want . If that 's not what you want than you 'll have to ask a more specific question ."
AGREE
"Do you claim this happened by mutation ? If so , what sort of mutation ?"
"Yes , it happened through mutation ."
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"Attention Trebor : According to your own Jewish Tanakh , is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man ?"
"If you want an answer to that , I suggest you read Genesis ."
AGREE
"According to your own Jewish Tanakh , is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man ?"
"If you want an answer to that , I suggest you read Genesis ."
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"Attention Trebor : According to your own Jewish Tanakh , is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man ?"
"If you want an answer to that , I suggest you read Genesis ."
AGREE
"According to your own Jewish Tanakh , is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man ?"
"If you want an answer to that , I suggest you read Genesis ."
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"Attention Trebor : According to your own Jewish Tanakh , is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man ?"
"If you want an answer to that , I suggest you read Genesis ."
AGREE
"According to your own Jewish Tanakh , is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man ?"
"I suggest you read Genesis ."
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"Attention Trebor : According to your own Jewish Tanakh , is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man ?"
"If you want an answer to that , I suggest you read Genesis ."
AGREE
"According to your own Jewish Tanakh , is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man"
"I suggest you read Genesis"
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"Attention Trebor : According to your own Jewish Tanakh , is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man ?"
"If you want an answer to that , I suggest you read Genesis ."
AGREE
"Attention Trebor Jewish Tanakh"
"If you want an answer to that I suggest you read Genesis ."
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"Attention Trebor : According to your own Jewish Tanakh , is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man ?"
"If you want an answer to that , I suggest you read Genesis ."
AGREE
"is God the Creator of the heavens and earth , and man ?"
"I suggest you read Genesis"
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"I am going to ask you one more time , where is the proof for evolution ? Where are the milllions of fossilized links with slow and obvious changes supposedly caused by the `` evolving process `` ?"
"And I am going to say to you one more time , take a class , I am not going to give it to you . There are millions of fossilized links showing slow and obvious changes . Horse fossils show a very gradual evolution to what is today considered the horse ( but oh wait you knew that since you studied evolution so well with such and open mind . ) There is also this little thing called punctuated equilibrium where there is a sudden large change ( usually thought to have been caused by mutation ) But again , since you studied evolution you knew about that ."
DISAGREE
"Where are the milllions of fossilized links with slow and obvious changes supposedly caused by the `` evolving process `` ?"
"I am not going to give it to you . There are millions of fossilized links showing slow and obvious changes ."
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"I am going to ask you one more time , where is the proof for evolution ? Where are the milllions of fossilized links with slow and obvious changes supposedly caused by the `` evolving process `` ?"
"And I am going to say to you one more time , take a class , I am not going to give it to you . There are millions of fossilized links showing slow and obvious changes . Horse fossils show a very gradual evolution to what is today considered the horse ( but oh wait you knew that since you studied evolution so well with such and open mind . ) There is also this little thing called punctuated equilibrium where there is a sudden large change ( usually thought to have been caused by mutation ) But again , since you studied evolution you knew about that ."
DISAGREE
"I am going to ask you one more time , where is the proof for evolution ? Where are the milllions of fossilized links with slow and obvious changes supposedly caused by the `` evolving process `` ?"
"And I am going to say to you one more time , take a class , I am not going to give it to you . There are millions of fossilized links showing slow and obvious changes ."
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"I am going to ask you one more time , where is the proof for evolution ? Where are the milllions of fossilized links with slow and obvious changes supposedly caused by the `` evolving process `` ?"
"And I am going to say to you one more time , take a class , I am not going to give it to you . There are millions of fossilized links showing slow and obvious changes . Horse fossils show a very gradual evolution to what is today considered the horse ( but oh wait you knew that since you studied evolution so well with such and open mind . ) There is also this little thing called punctuated equilibrium where there is a sudden large change ( usually thought to have been caused by mutation ) But again , since you studied evolution you knew about that ."
DISAGREE
"I am going to ask you one more time , where is the proof for evolution ?"
"And I am going to say to you one more time , take a class"
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"I am going to ask you one more time , where is the proof for evolution ? Where are the milllions of fossilized links with slow and obvious changes supposedly caused by the `` evolving process `` ?"
"And I am going to say to you one more time , take a class , I am not going to give it to you . There are millions of fossilized links showing slow and obvious changes . Horse fossils show a very gradual evolution to what is today considered the horse ( but oh wait you knew that since you studied evolution so well with such and open mind . ) There is also this little thing called punctuated equilibrium where there is a sudden large change ( usually thought to have been caused by mutation ) But again , since you studied evolution you knew about that ."
DISAGREE
"where is the proof for evolution ? Where are the milllions of fossilized links with slow and obvious changes supposedly caused by the `` evolving process `` ?"
"And I am going to say to you one more time , take a class , I am not going to give it to you . There are millions of fossilized links showing slow and obvious changes . Horse fossils show a very gradual evolution to what is today considered the horse"
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"I am going to ask you one more time , where is the proof for evolution ? Where are the milllions of fossilized links with slow and obvious changes supposedly caused by the `` evolving process `` ?"
"And I am going to say to you one more time , take a class , I am not going to give it to you . There are millions of fossilized links showing slow and obvious changes . Horse fossils show a very gradual evolution to what is today considered the horse ( but oh wait you knew that since you studied evolution so well with such and open mind . ) There is also this little thing called punctuated equilibrium where there is a sudden large change ( usually thought to have been caused by mutation ) But again , since you studied evolution you knew about that ."
DISAGREE
"where is the proof for evolution ?"
"Horse fossils show a very gradual evolution to what is today considered the horse"
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"I am going to ask you one more time , where is the proof for evolution ? Where are the milllions of fossilized links with slow and obvious changes supposedly caused by the `` evolving process `` ?"
"And I am going to say to you one more time , take a class , I am not going to give it to you . There are millions of fossilized links showing slow and obvious changes . Horse fossils show a very gradual evolution to what is today considered the horse ( but oh wait you knew that since you studied evolution so well with such and open mind . ) There is also this little thing called punctuated equilibrium where there is a sudden large change ( usually thought to have been caused by mutation ) But again , since you studied evolution you knew about that ."
DISAGREE
"the milllions of fossilized links with slow and obvious changes supposedly caused by the `` evolving process ``"
"( usually thought to have been caused by mutation"
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"I too am witness to God 's miracles ."
"What , specifically , are you witnessing ? A baby being born ? A prayer apparently being answered ? A near miss ? Mysterious coincidences that you interpret as being the work of God ? Or do you see dead people rising up out of the grave ? And people walking on water ? And people turning water into wine and feeding a crowd with a small amount of food ? What kind of miracles are we talking about here ?"
DISAGREE
"I too am witness God 's miracles ."
"What , specifically , are you witnessing ? Mysterious coincidences that you interpret as being the work of God ? Or do you see dead people rising up out of the grave ? And people walking on water ? And people turning water into wine and feeding a crowd with a small amount of food ? What kind of miracles are we talking about here ?"
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"I too am witness to God 's miracles ."
"What , specifically , are you witnessing ? A baby being born ? A prayer apparently being answered ? A near miss ? Mysterious coincidences that you interpret as being the work of God ? Or do you see dead people rising up out of the grave ? And people walking on water ? And people turning water into wine and feeding a crowd with a small amount of food ? What kind of miracles are we talking about here ?"
DISAGREE
"am witness to God 's miracles ."
"What , specifically , are you witnessing ? A baby being born ? A prayer apparently being answered ? A near miss ? Mysterious coincidences that you interpret as being the work of God ?"
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"I too am witness to God 's miracles ."
"What , specifically , are you witnessing ? A baby being born ? A prayer apparently being answered ? A near miss ? Mysterious coincidences that you interpret as being the work of God ? Or do you see dead people rising up out of the grave ? And people walking on water ? And people turning water into wine and feeding a crowd with a small amount of food ? What kind of miracles are we talking about here ?"
DISAGREE
"am witness to God 's miracles"
"people turning water into wine and feeding a crowd with a small amount of food"
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"I too am witness to God 's miracles ."
"What , specifically , are you witnessing ? A baby being born ? A prayer apparently being answered ? A near miss ? Mysterious coincidences that you interpret as being the work of God ? Or do you see dead people rising up out of the grave ? And people walking on water ? And people turning water into wine and feeding a crowd with a small amount of food ? What kind of miracles are we talking about here ?"
DISAGREE
"I too am witness to God 's miracles"
"Mysterious coincidences that you interpret as being the work of God ?"
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"I too am witness to God 's miracles ."
"What , specifically , are you witnessing ? A baby being born ? A prayer apparently being answered ? A near miss ? Mysterious coincidences that you interpret as being the work of God ? Or do you see dead people rising up out of the grave ? And people walking on water ? And people turning water into wine and feeding a crowd with a small amount of food ? What kind of miracles are we talking about here ?"
DISAGREE
"I too am witness God 's miracles ."
"What , specifically , are you witnessing ? A baby being born ? A prayer apparently being answered ? A near miss ? Mysterious coincidences that you interpret as being the work of God ? Or do you see dead people rising up out of the grave ? And people walking on water ? And people turning water into wine and feeding a crowd with a small amount of food ? What kind of miracles are we talking about here ?"
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"I too am witness to God 's miracles ."
"What , specifically , are you witnessing ? A baby being born ? A prayer apparently being answered ? A near miss ? Mysterious coincidences that you interpret as being the work of God ? Or do you see dead people rising up out of the grave ? And people walking on water ? And people turning water into wine and feeding a crowd with a small amount of food ? What kind of miracles are we talking about here ?"
DISAGREE
"I too am witness to God 's miracles ."
"What , specifically , are you witnessing ?"
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"I beleive Currently a strictly materialistic approach has come up with better results in some circustances when it comes to what we can measure . This makes it reasonable to approach any question dealing with what we can measure from a strictly materialistic standpoint ."
"Really , what is the materialistinc approach to which you refer ( assuming you 're also talking about 'pain ' ) ? a ) Is it strictly materialistic , or do they use non-material methods as well ? b ) Can it be used to onbjectively measure pain ?"
DISAGREE
"I beleive Currently a strictly materialistic approach has come up with better results This makes it reasonable to approach any question dealing with what we can measure"
"Really , what is the materialistinc approach to which you refer Can it be used to onbjectively measure pain ?"
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"I beleive Currently a strictly materialistic approach has come up with better results in some circustances when it comes to what we can measure . This makes it reasonable to approach any question dealing with what we can measure from a strictly materialistic standpoint ."
"Really , what is the materialistinc approach to which you refer ( assuming you 're also talking about 'pain ' ) ? a ) Is it strictly materialistic , or do they use non-material methods as well ? b ) Can it be used to onbjectively measure pain ?"
DISAGREE
"materialistic measure"
"Really , what is the materialistinc approach to which you refer assuming you 're also talking about 'pain ' Is it strictly materialistic do they use non-material methods as well ? Can it be used to onbjectively measure pain ?"
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"I beleive Currently a strictly materialistic approach has come up with better results in some circustances when it comes to what we can measure . This makes it reasonable to approach any question dealing with what we can measure from a strictly materialistic standpoint ."
"Really , what is the materialistinc approach to which you refer ( assuming you 're also talking about 'pain ' ) ? a ) Is it strictly materialistic , or do they use non-material methods as well ? b ) Can it be used to onbjectively measure pain ?"
DISAGREE
"I beleive Currently a strictly materialistic approach has come up with better results in some circustances when it comes to what we can measure ."
"what is the materialistinc approach to which you refer ( assuming you 're also talking about 'pain"
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"I beleive Currently a strictly materialistic approach has come up with better results in some circustances when it comes to what we can measure . This makes it reasonable to approach any question dealing with what we can measure from a strictly materialistic standpoint ."
"Really , what is the materialistinc approach to which you refer ( assuming you 're also talking about 'pain ' ) ? a ) Is it strictly materialistic , or do they use non-material methods as well ? b ) Can it be used to onbjectively measure pain ?"
DISAGREE
"a strictly materialistic approach has come up with better results in some circustances"
"what is the materialistinc approach to which you refer"
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"Meanwhile , there must have been provisions on the Ark for marine animals and fish as the rainwater would have undoubtedly altered the water pH and saline content . Also not mentioned is the fact that Noah and sons must have collected seeds from every PLANT on earth because I am personally not aware of many plant types that can survive completely submerged for 40 days ."
"Oh really ? Parts of New Orleans were under water for more than 40 days before all the water receeded . Has n't the plant life there replenished naturally in the wild ? Of course it has . The Earth is very able to repair itself in spite of modern mans sense of self importance . Here 's some interesting photographic evidence of it . www.pbase.com/andrys/noah"
DISAGREE
"rainwater would have undoubtedly altered the water pH and saline content"
"some interesting photographic evidence of it ."
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"Meanwhile , there must have been provisions on the Ark for marine animals and fish as the rainwater would have undoubtedly altered the water pH and saline content . Also not mentioned is the fact that Noah and sons must have collected seeds from every PLANT on earth because I am personally not aware of many plant types that can survive completely submerged for 40 days ."
"Oh really ? Parts of New Orleans were under water for more than 40 days before all the water receeded . Has n't the plant life there replenished naturally in the wild ? Of course it has . The Earth is very able to repair itself in spite of modern mans sense of self importance . Here 's some interesting photographic evidence of it . www.pbase.com/andrys/noah"
DISAGREE
"there must have been provisions on the Ark for marine animals and fish as the rainwater would have undoubtedly altered the water pH and saline content"
"Parts of New Orleans were under water for more than 40 days before all the water receeded ."
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"Meanwhile , there must have been provisions on the Ark for marine animals and fish as the rainwater would have undoubtedly altered the water pH and saline content . Also not mentioned is the fact that Noah and sons must have collected seeds from every PLANT on earth because I am personally not aware of many plant types that can survive completely submerged for 40 days ."
"Oh really ? Parts of New Orleans were under water for more than 40 days before all the water receeded . Has n't the plant life there replenished naturally in the wild ? Of course it has . The Earth is very able to repair itself in spite of modern mans sense of self importance . Here 's some interesting photographic evidence of it . www.pbase.com/andrys/noah"
DISAGREE
"there must have been provisions on the Ark for marine animals and fish as the rainwater would have undoubtedly altered the water pH and saline content ."
"Parts of New Orleans were under water for more than 40 days before all the water receeded . Has n't the plant life there replenished naturally in the wild ?"
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"Meanwhile , there must have been provisions on the Ark for marine animals and fish as the rainwater would have undoubtedly altered the water pH and saline content . Also not mentioned is the fact that Noah and sons must have collected seeds from every PLANT on earth because I am personally not aware of many plant types that can survive completely submerged for 40 days ."
"Oh really ? Parts of New Orleans were under water for more than 40 days before all the water receeded . Has n't the plant life there replenished naturally in the wild ? Of course it has . The Earth is very able to repair itself in spite of modern mans sense of self importance . Here 's some interesting photographic evidence of it . www.pbase.com/andrys/noah"
DISAGREE
"not aware of many plant types that can survive completely submerged for 40 days"
"Parts of New Orleans were under water for more than 40 days before all the water receeded . Has n't the plant life there replenished naturally in the wild ? Of course it has"
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"Meanwhile , there must have been provisions on the Ark for marine animals and fish as the rainwater would have undoubtedly altered the water pH and saline content . Also not mentioned is the fact that Noah and sons must have collected seeds from every PLANT on earth because I am personally not aware of many plant types that can survive completely submerged for 40 days ."
"Oh really ? Parts of New Orleans were under water for more than 40 days before all the water receeded . Has n't the plant life there replenished naturally in the wild ? Of course it has . The Earth is very able to repair itself in spite of modern mans sense of self importance . Here 's some interesting photographic evidence of it . www.pbase.com/andrys/noah"
DISAGREE
"I am personally not aware of many plant types that can survive completely submerged for 40 days ."
"Parts of New Orleans were under water for more than 40 days before all the water receeded . Has n't the plant life there replenished naturally in the wild ? Of course it has ."
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".. and that responsibility and accountability is on both famale and male that created `` the means `` to form the child ."
"Well , at least accoreding to your `` because I say so `` belief . The woman , of course , do n't need to pay attention to your desire to control her own body in bondage to your particular brand of outraged morality ."
DISAGREE
"responsibility and accountability on both famale and male"
"your desire to control her own body in bondage"
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".. and that responsibility and accountability is on both famale and male that created `` the means `` to form the child ."
"Well , at least accoreding to your `` because I say so `` belief . The woman , of course , do n't need to pay attention to your desire to control her own body in bondage to your particular brand of outraged morality ."
DISAGREE
"that responsibility and accountability is on both famale and male that created `` the means `` to form the child ."
"The woman , of course , do n't need to pay attention to your desire to control her own body in bondage"
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".. and that responsibility and accountability is on both famale and male that created `` the means `` to form the child ."
"Well , at least accoreding to your `` because I say so `` belief . The woman , of course , do n't need to pay attention to your desire to control her own body in bondage to your particular brand of outraged morality ."
DISAGREE
"that responsibility and accountability is on both famale and male that created"
"The woman , of course , do n't need to pay attention to your desire to control her own body in bondage to your particular brand of outraged morality ."
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".. and that responsibility and accountability is on both famale and male that created `` the means `` to form the child ."
"Well , at least accoreding to your `` because I say so `` belief . The woman , of course , do n't need to pay attention to your desire to control her own body in bondage to your particular brand of outraged morality ."
DISAGREE
"responsibility and accountability is on both famale and male"
"accoreding to your `` because I say so `` belief"
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".. and that responsibility and accountability is on both famale and male that created `` the means `` to form the child ."
"Well , at least accoreding to your `` because I say so `` belief . The woman , of course , do n't need to pay attention to your desire to control her own body in bondage to your particular brand of outraged morality ."
DISAGREE
"that responsibility and accountability is on both famale and male"
"The woman , of course , do n't need to pay attention to your desire to control her own body"
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"The English government has effectively abolished the right of Englishmen , confirmed in their 1689 Bill of Rights , to `` have arms for their defence , ``"
"To be more accurate , ( not something noted amongst the pro-gun rabble ) the right of protestants to have arms for their defence against catholics . I think we 've all seen quite enough of this `` defence `` in Northern Ireland . ( assuming that yanks can locate the place with a map )"
DISAGREE
"The English government has effectively abolished the right of Englishmen"
"the right of protestants to have arms for their defence against catholics"
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"The English government has effectively abolished the right of Englishmen , confirmed in their 1689 Bill of Rights , to `` have arms for their defence , ``"
"To be more accurate , ( not something noted amongst the pro-gun rabble ) the right of protestants to have arms for their defence against catholics . I think we 've all seen quite enough of this `` defence `` in Northern Ireland . ( assuming that yanks can locate the place with a map )"
DISAGREE
"has effectively abolished the right of Englishmen , ``"
"the right of protestants to have arms for their defence ``"
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"Except that it does nothing of the sort ... But then , what can we expect from somebody citing a website trying to sell you liquid vitamin supplement ... Nevertheless , we look into the Pottenger 's cats claim . Here is a page called , `` Lesson of the Pottenger 's Cats Experiment : cats are not humans. `` Although it 's a page aimed at explaining why this `` experiment `` is not applicable to humans , it exposes the other , erm , flaws in this experiment . The one striking me based on the wikipedia list of diets for the groups should be obvious to everyone : many of these cats were being deprived of protein . This page confirms and elaborates . In fact , its first point is that today 's cats have no problem reproducing for several generations on today 's cooked food . The difference is that good owners do n't feed their pets deficient diets . The real irony here is that this experiment -- were it reliable -- would be the antithesis of supersport 's Lamarckism . In order for supersport to be supported , the cats being fed inadequate diets would re-develop those broken pathways for manufacturing essential amino acids . Obviously , they did not . The only thing we see here is the effect of poor ( i.e . positively malnutritive ) diet . We can conclude that supersport 's Morton 's demon is pretty much in full control . There 's no other explanation for somebody seeing this experiment and thinking it supports Lamarckism , or even counters evolutionary theory , even if he does n't know the basics of experimentation and nutrition ."
"The reality is this is no different the following link : ie ... the animals who were fed one diet passed on traits differently than those who were fed another diet . Traits , according to evolutionists arise RANOCMLY . Get that , geniuses ? RANDOMLY . This is not random . Structural damage in this case did not happen randomly .... nor did the dengenerative effects to the fur , nervous systems , bones , allergies , and mental processes . Instead this was all dictated by the environment . Thus , despite the emergence of new traits in the milk/cooked food-fed diet of the one population , it had nothing to do with darwinian random mutation or natural selection . This is a hole . A huge hole .... it 's environmental evolution ... that is , animals simply changing with a changing environment . Lamarckism predicts that the environment changes first , followed up by new traits . Neo-darwinists say that new traits arise before and/or unoriented to the environment , only to be then be selected . I win . And this is no different than the following : http : //www.the-scientist.com/2004/7/5/14/1/ Normally , the fur of agouti mice is yellow , brown , or a calico-like mixture of the two , depending on the number of attached methyl groups . But when Duke University researchers Jirtle and Waterland fed folic acid and other methyl-rich supplements to pregnant mothers , despite the fact that all offspring inherited exactly the same agouti gene ( i.e. , with no nucleotide differences ) , mice who received supplements had offspring with mostly brown fur , whereas mice without supplements gave birth to mostly yellow pups with a higher susceptibility to obesity , diabetes , and cancer . LAMARCKJean-Baptiste Lamarck ( 1744–1829 ) The environmental ability of epigenetic inheritance may not necessarily bring to mind Lamarckian images of giraffes stretching their necks to reach the treetops ( and then giving birth to progeny with similarly stretched necks ) , but it does give researchers reason to reconsider long-refuted notions about the inheritance of acquired characteristics . Eighteenth-century French naturalist Jean Baptiste de Lamarck proposed that environmental cues could cause phenotypic changes transmittable to offspring . Checkmate , losers . Oh , and by the way , electro-loser ..... it does n't matter if this diet experiment can be extrapolated to humans or not . ( Of course I realize you are just spouting your mouth off just to hear your head rattle ) ... the reality is , though , these cats evolved new traits by way of non-darwinian mechanisms . So did the mice in both experiments and so did the pigs . Are you truly trying to tell me that cats and mice and pigs evolve by way of the inheritance of acquired characteristics but humans do n't ?"
DISAGREE
"In fact , its first point is that today 's cats have no problem reproducing for several generations on today 's cooked food ."
"the animals who were fed one diet passed on traits differently than those who were fed another diet ."
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"Except that it does nothing of the sort ... But then , what can we expect from somebody citing a website trying to sell you liquid vitamin supplement ... Nevertheless , we look into the Pottenger 's cats claim . Here is a page called , `` Lesson of the Pottenger 's Cats Experiment : cats are not humans. `` Although it 's a page aimed at explaining why this `` experiment `` is not applicable to humans , it exposes the other , erm , flaws in this experiment . The one striking me based on the wikipedia list of diets for the groups should be obvious to everyone : many of these cats were being deprived of protein . This page confirms and elaborates . In fact , its first point is that today 's cats have no problem reproducing for several generations on today 's cooked food . The difference is that good owners do n't feed their pets deficient diets . The real irony here is that this experiment -- were it reliable -- would be the antithesis of supersport 's Lamarckism . In order for supersport to be supported , the cats being fed inadequate diets would re-develop those broken pathways for manufacturing essential amino acids . Obviously , they did not . The only thing we see here is the effect of poor ( i.e . positively malnutritive ) diet . We can conclude that supersport 's Morton 's demon is pretty much in full control . There 's no other explanation for somebody seeing this experiment and thinking it supports Lamarckism , or even counters evolutionary theory , even if he does n't know the basics of experimentation and nutrition ."
"The reality is this is no different the following link : ie ... the animals who were fed one diet passed on traits differently than those who were fed another diet . Traits , according to evolutionists arise RANOCMLY . Get that , geniuses ? RANDOMLY . This is not random . Structural damage in this case did not happen randomly .... nor did the dengenerative effects to the fur , nervous systems , bones , allergies , and mental processes . Instead this was all dictated by the environment . Thus , despite the emergence of new traits in the milk/cooked food-fed diet of the one population , it had nothing to do with darwinian random mutation or natural selection . This is a hole . A huge hole .... it 's environmental evolution ... that is , animals simply changing with a changing environment . Lamarckism predicts that the environment changes first , followed up by new traits . Neo-darwinists say that new traits arise before and/or unoriented to the environment , only to be then be selected . I win . And this is no different than the following : http : //www.the-scientist.com/2004/7/5/14/1/ Normally , the fur of agouti mice is yellow , brown , or a calico-like mixture of the two , depending on the number of attached methyl groups . But when Duke University researchers Jirtle and Waterland fed folic acid and other methyl-rich supplements to pregnant mothers , despite the fact that all offspring inherited exactly the same agouti gene ( i.e. , with no nucleotide differences ) , mice who received supplements had offspring with mostly brown fur , whereas mice without supplements gave birth to mostly yellow pups with a higher susceptibility to obesity , diabetes , and cancer . LAMARCKJean-Baptiste Lamarck ( 1744–1829 ) The environmental ability of epigenetic inheritance may not necessarily bring to mind Lamarckian images of giraffes stretching their necks to reach the treetops ( and then giving birth to progeny with similarly stretched necks ) , but it does give researchers reason to reconsider long-refuted notions about the inheritance of acquired characteristics . Eighteenth-century French naturalist Jean Baptiste de Lamarck proposed that environmental cues could cause phenotypic changes transmittable to offspring . Checkmate , losers . Oh , and by the way , electro-loser ..... it does n't matter if this diet experiment can be extrapolated to humans or not . ( Of course I realize you are just spouting your mouth off just to hear your head rattle ) ... the reality is , though , these cats evolved new traits by way of non-darwinian mechanisms . So did the mice in both experiments and so did the pigs . Are you truly trying to tell me that cats and mice and pigs evolve by way of the inheritance of acquired characteristics but humans do n't ?"
DISAGREE
"liquid vitamin supplement cats are not not applicable to humans , experimentation and nutrition"
"environmental evolution animals simply changing with a changing of acquired mechanisms"
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"Except that it does nothing of the sort ... But then , what can we expect from somebody citing a website trying to sell you liquid vitamin supplement ... Nevertheless , we look into the Pottenger 's cats claim . Here is a page called , `` Lesson of the Pottenger 's Cats Experiment : cats are not humans. `` Although it 's a page aimed at explaining why this `` experiment `` is not applicable to humans , it exposes the other , erm , flaws in this experiment . The one striking me based on the wikipedia list of diets for the groups should be obvious to everyone : many of these cats were being deprived of protein . This page confirms and elaborates . In fact , its first point is that today 's cats have no problem reproducing for several generations on today 's cooked food . The difference is that good owners do n't feed their pets deficient diets . The real irony here is that this experiment -- were it reliable -- would be the antithesis of supersport 's Lamarckism . In order for supersport to be supported , the cats being fed inadequate diets would re-develop those broken pathways for manufacturing essential amino acids . Obviously , they did not . The only thing we see here is the effect of poor ( i.e . positively malnutritive ) diet . We can conclude that supersport 's Morton 's demon is pretty much in full control . There 's no other explanation for somebody seeing this experiment and thinking it supports Lamarckism , or even counters evolutionary theory , even if he does n't know the basics of experimentation and nutrition ."
"The reality is this is no different the following link : ie ... the animals who were fed one diet passed on traits differently than those who were fed another diet . Traits , according to evolutionists arise RANOCMLY . Get that , geniuses ? RANDOMLY . This is not random . Structural damage in this case did not happen randomly .... nor did the dengenerative effects to the fur , nervous systems , bones , allergies , and mental processes . Instead this was all dictated by the environment . Thus , despite the emergence of new traits in the milk/cooked food-fed diet of the one population , it had nothing to do with darwinian random mutation or natural selection . This is a hole . A huge hole .... it 's environmental evolution ... that is , animals simply changing with a changing environment . Lamarckism predicts that the environment changes first , followed up by new traits . Neo-darwinists say that new traits arise before and/or unoriented to the environment , only to be then be selected . I win . And this is no different than the following : http : //www.the-scientist.com/2004/7/5/14/1/ Normally , the fur of agouti mice is yellow , brown , or a calico-like mixture of the two , depending on the number of attached methyl groups . But when Duke University researchers Jirtle and Waterland fed folic acid and other methyl-rich supplements to pregnant mothers , despite the fact that all offspring inherited exactly the same agouti gene ( i.e. , with no nucleotide differences ) , mice who received supplements had offspring with mostly brown fur , whereas mice without supplements gave birth to mostly yellow pups with a higher susceptibility to obesity , diabetes , and cancer . LAMARCKJean-Baptiste Lamarck ( 1744–1829 ) The environmental ability of epigenetic inheritance may not necessarily bring to mind Lamarckian images of giraffes stretching their necks to reach the treetops ( and then giving birth to progeny with similarly stretched necks ) , but it does give researchers reason to reconsider long-refuted notions about the inheritance of acquired characteristics . Eighteenth-century French naturalist Jean Baptiste de Lamarck proposed that environmental cues could cause phenotypic changes transmittable to offspring . Checkmate , losers . Oh , and by the way , electro-loser ..... it does n't matter if this diet experiment can be extrapolated to humans or not . ( Of course I realize you are just spouting your mouth off just to hear your head rattle ) ... the reality is , though , these cats evolved new traits by way of non-darwinian mechanisms . So did the mice in both experiments and so did the pigs . Are you truly trying to tell me that cats and mice and pigs evolve by way of the inheritance of acquired characteristics but humans do n't ?"
DISAGREE
"The difference is that good owners do n't feed their pets deficient diets ."
"the environment changes first , followed up by new traits"
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"Except that it does nothing of the sort ... But then , what can we expect from somebody citing a website trying to sell you liquid vitamin supplement ... Nevertheless , we look into the Pottenger 's cats claim . Here is a page called , `` Lesson of the Pottenger 's Cats Experiment : cats are not humans. `` Although it 's a page aimed at explaining why this `` experiment `` is not applicable to humans , it exposes the other , erm , flaws in this experiment . The one striking me based on the wikipedia list of diets for the groups should be obvious to everyone : many of these cats were being deprived of protein . This page confirms and elaborates . In fact , its first point is that today 's cats have no problem reproducing for several generations on today 's cooked food . The difference is that good owners do n't feed their pets deficient diets . The real irony here is that this experiment -- were it reliable -- would be the antithesis of supersport 's Lamarckism . In order for supersport to be supported , the cats being fed inadequate diets would re-develop those broken pathways for manufacturing essential amino acids . Obviously , they did not . The only thing we see here is the effect of poor ( i.e . positively malnutritive ) diet . We can conclude that supersport 's Morton 's demon is pretty much in full control . There 's no other explanation for somebody seeing this experiment and thinking it supports Lamarckism , or even counters evolutionary theory , even if he does n't know the basics of experimentation and nutrition ."
"The reality is this is no different the following link : ie ... the animals who were fed one diet passed on traits differently than those who were fed another diet . Traits , according to evolutionists arise RANOCMLY . Get that , geniuses ? RANDOMLY . This is not random . Structural damage in this case did not happen randomly .... nor did the dengenerative effects to the fur , nervous systems , bones , allergies , and mental processes . Instead this was all dictated by the environment . Thus , despite the emergence of new traits in the milk/cooked food-fed diet of the one population , it had nothing to do with darwinian random mutation or natural selection . This is a hole . A huge hole .... it 's environmental evolution ... that is , animals simply changing with a changing environment . Lamarckism predicts that the environment changes first , followed up by new traits . Neo-darwinists say that new traits arise before and/or unoriented to the environment , only to be then be selected . I win . And this is no different than the following : http : //www.the-scientist.com/2004/7/5/14/1/ Normally , the fur of agouti mice is yellow , brown , or a calico-like mixture of the two , depending on the number of attached methyl groups . But when Duke University researchers Jirtle and Waterland fed folic acid and other methyl-rich supplements to pregnant mothers , despite the fact that all offspring inherited exactly the same agouti gene ( i.e. , with no nucleotide differences ) , mice who received supplements had offspring with mostly brown fur , whereas mice without supplements gave birth to mostly yellow pups with a higher susceptibility to obesity , diabetes , and cancer . LAMARCKJean-Baptiste Lamarck ( 1744–1829 ) The environmental ability of epigenetic inheritance may not necessarily bring to mind Lamarckian images of giraffes stretching their necks to reach the treetops ( and then giving birth to progeny with similarly stretched necks ) , but it does give researchers reason to reconsider long-refuted notions about the inheritance of acquired characteristics . Eighteenth-century French naturalist Jean Baptiste de Lamarck proposed that environmental cues could cause phenotypic changes transmittable to offspring . Checkmate , losers . Oh , and by the way , electro-loser ..... it does n't matter if this diet experiment can be extrapolated to humans or not . ( Of course I realize you are just spouting your mouth off just to hear your head rattle ) ... the reality is , though , these cats evolved new traits by way of non-darwinian mechanisms . So did the mice in both experiments and so did the pigs . Are you truly trying to tell me that cats and mice and pigs evolve by way of the inheritance of acquired characteristics but humans do n't ?"
DISAGREE
"many of these cats were being deprived of protein . This page confirms and elaborates . In fact , its first point is that today 's cats have no problem reproducing for several generations on today 's cooked food ."
"Structural damage in this case did not happen randomly .... nor did the dengenerative effects to the fur , nervous systems , bones , allergies , and mental processes . Instead this was all dictated by the environment"
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"Have you ever noticed that there are some gay couples that seem to bypass all the hate and ignorance of the anti-gay movement ... couples like Ray Horn and life partner , the guy that was Oprah 's designer and his life mate , and sometimes Ellen Degeneres ? Why do these people get treated well overall and not lumped into that `` but he/she 's gay `` group ? It 's good that these people are in the world and showing people that gay does n't mean sick or abnormal . Anyone else ever notice this ?"
"Because they live on a coast ?"
DISAGREE
"gay all the hate and does n't mean sick or abnormal ."
"coast"
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"Have you ever noticed that there are some gay couples that seem to bypass all the hate and ignorance of the anti-gay movement ... couples like Ray Horn and life partner , the guy that was Oprah 's designer and his life mate , and sometimes Ellen Degeneres ? Why do these people get treated well overall and not lumped into that `` but he/she 's gay `` group ? It 's good that these people are in the world and showing people that gay does n't mean sick or abnormal . Anyone else ever notice this ?"
"Because they live on a coast ?"
DISAGREE
"Have you ever noticed that there are some gay couples that seem to bypass all the hate and ignorance of the anti-gay movement"
"Because they live on a coast"
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