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"Afghanistan : Do you really think that the Afghanis would have had the same chances against the Soviets without Stingers or CIA training showing them how to plan terrorist attacks ? Sure , without gun control the second-mightiest army would have never attacked Afghanistan ..."
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"The Afghanis did VERY well before CIA intervention and arms supplies . They were fighting T-72 tanks with Molotov cocktails , and winning . They were taking out entire armored divisions with dynamite ( by instituting land slides ) . Certainly the CIAs assistance was helpful , but by no means definitive ."
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"Afghanistan : Do you really think that the Afghanis would have had the same chances against the Soviets without Stingers or CIA training showing them how to plan terrorist attacks ? Sure , without gun control the second-mightiest army would have never attacked Afghanistan ..."
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"The Afghanis did VERY well before CIA intervention and arms supplies . They were fighting T-72 tanks with Molotov cocktails , and"
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37,161 | 9,736 |
"Afghanistan : Do you really think that the Afghanis would have had the same chances against the Soviets without Stingers or CIA training showing them how to plan terrorist attacks ? Sure , without gun control the second-mightiest army would have never attacked Afghanistan ..."
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"The Afghanis did VERY well before CIA intervention and arms supplies . They were fighting T-72 tanks with Molotov cocktails , and winning . They were taking out entire armored divisions with dynamite ( by instituting land slides ) . Certainly the CIAs assistance was helpful , but by no means definitive ."
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"the Afghanis would have had the same chances against the Soviets without Stingers or CIA training"
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"The Afghanis did VERY well before CIA intervention and arms supplies ."
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37,158 | 9,736 |
"Afghanistan : Do you really think that the Afghanis would have had the same chances against the Soviets without Stingers or CIA training showing them how to plan terrorist attacks ? Sure , without gun control the second-mightiest army would have never attacked Afghanistan ..."
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"The Afghanis did VERY well before CIA intervention and arms supplies . They were fighting T-72 tanks with Molotov cocktails , and winning . They were taking out entire armored divisions with dynamite ( by instituting land slides ) . Certainly the CIAs assistance was helpful , but by no means definitive ."
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"Do you really think that the Afghanis would have had the same chances against the Soviets without Stingers or CIA training showing them how to plan terrorist attacks ?"
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"The Afghanis did VERY well before CIA intervention and arms supplies . They were fighting T-72 tanks with Molotov cocktails , and winning ."
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37,160 | 9,736 |
"Afghanistan : Do you really think that the Afghanis would have had the same chances against the Soviets without Stingers or CIA training showing them how to plan terrorist attacks ? Sure , without gun control the second-mightiest army would have never attacked Afghanistan ..."
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"The Afghanis did VERY well before CIA intervention and arms supplies . They were fighting T-72 tanks with Molotov cocktails , and winning . They were taking out entire armored divisions with dynamite ( by instituting land slides ) . Certainly the CIAs assistance was helpful , but by no means definitive ."
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"Afghanis would have had the same chances against the Soviets without Stingers or CIA training ?"
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"The Afghanis did VERY well before CIA intervention and arms supplies ."
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37,162 | 9,736 |
"Afghanistan : Do you really think that the Afghanis would have had the same chances against the Soviets without Stingers or CIA training showing them how to plan terrorist attacks ? Sure , without gun control the second-mightiest army would have never attacked Afghanistan ..."
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"The Afghanis did VERY well before CIA intervention and arms supplies . They were fighting T-72 tanks with Molotov cocktails , and winning . They were taking out entire armored divisions with dynamite ( by instituting land slides ) . Certainly the CIAs assistance was helpful , but by no means definitive ."
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"Afghanis would have had the same chances against the Soviets without Stingers or CIA training"
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"They were fighting T-72 tanks with Molotov cocktails , and winning ."
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37,166 | 9,737 |
"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue ,"
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"You mean , in ways that are different from your pet version ? WW , what defines materialism - the phenomena it recognises - if not their susceptibility to the scientific method ? Science is more than a methodology . Empiricism and validation by prediction from anticipated regularit is its methodology . If science were nothing more than a methodology , than no science would exist beyond the confines of any particular experiment and/or collection of observations/measurements undergone currently ."
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"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue"
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"the phenomena it recognises - if not their susceptibility to the scientific method ?"
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37,164 | 9,737 |
"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue ,"
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"You mean , in ways that are different from your pet version ? WW , what defines materialism - the phenomena it recognises - if not their susceptibility to the scientific method ? Science is more than a methodology . Empiricism and validation by prediction from anticipated regularit is its methodology . If science were nothing more than a methodology , than no science would exist beyond the confines of any particular experiment and/or collection of observations/measurements undergone currently ."
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"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue ,"
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"in ways that are different from your pet version ?"
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37,165 | 9,737 |
"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue ,"
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"You mean , in ways that are different from your pet version ? WW , what defines materialism - the phenomena it recognises - if not their susceptibility to the scientific method ? Science is more than a methodology . Empiricism and validation by prediction from anticipated regularit is its methodology . If science were nothing more than a methodology , than no science would exist beyond the confines of any particular experiment and/or collection of observations/measurements undergone currently ."
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"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue ,"
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"the phenomena it recognises - if not their susceptibility to the scientific method ?"
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37,168 | 9,737 |
"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue ,"
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"You mean , in ways that are different from your pet version ? WW , what defines materialism - the phenomena it recognises - if not their susceptibility to the scientific method ? Science is more than a methodology . Empiricism and validation by prediction from anticipated regularit is its methodology . If science were nothing more than a methodology , than no science would exist beyond the confines of any particular experiment and/or collection of observations/measurements undergone currently ."
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"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue ,"
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"You mean , in ways that are different from your pet version ? WW , what defines materialism - the phenomena it recognises"
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37,167 | 9,737 |
"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue ,"
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"You mean , in ways that are different from your pet version ? WW , what defines materialism - the phenomena it recognises - if not their susceptibility to the scientific method ? Science is more than a methodology . Empiricism and validation by prediction from anticipated regularit is its methodology . If science were nothing more than a methodology , than no science would exist beyond the confines of any particular experiment and/or collection of observations/measurements undergone currently ."
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"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue ,"
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"You mean , in ways that are different from your pet version ? WW , what defines materialism - the phenomena it recognises - if not their susceptibility to the scientific method ?"
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37,171 | 9,745 |
"Again , I 'm not sure where all this emphasis on limbs comes from , as if it were the only possible result of genetic variance . But I 'll bite : some people are born with six fingers . Example of a new part to an existing structure ... on humans , no less ."
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"nothing new can be created by making copies , i 've addressed this many times"
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"I 'm not sure where all this emphasis on limbs comes from , some people are born with six fingers . Example of a new part to an existing structure ... on humans"
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"nothing new i 've addressed this many times"
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37,170 | 9,745 |
"Again , I 'm not sure where all this emphasis on limbs comes from , as if it were the only possible result of genetic variance . But I 'll bite : some people are born with six fingers . Example of a new part to an existing structure ... on humans , no less ."
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"nothing new can be created by making copies , i 've addressed this many times"
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"it were the only possible result of genetic variance"
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"nothing new can be created by making copies"
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37,169 | 9,745 |
"Again , I 'm not sure where all this emphasis on limbs comes from , as if it were the only possible result of genetic variance . But I 'll bite : some people are born with six fingers . Example of a new part to an existing structure ... on humans , no less ."
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"nothing new can be created by making copies , i 've addressed this many times"
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"Again , I 'm not sure where all this emphasis on limbs comes from , as if it were the only possible result of genetic variance . But I 'll bite : some people are born with six fingers . Example of a new part to an existing structure ... on humans , no less ."
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"nothing new can be created by making copies , i 've addressed this many times"
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37,172 | 9,746 |
"You guys know me . Always happy to correct anyone . As electrolyte pointed out , ( 1 ) the first step in the scientific method is the observation . A scientist observes something that raises a question . ( 2 ) Then comes the hypothesis , that is an attempt to explain the observation . The hypothesis can be an educated guess or even wild speculation based on previous knowledge or intuition , or it may be based in previous science and an understanding of scientific principles . ( 3 ) One then makes a prediction that is a necessary consequence of the hypothesis . That science is predictive is one of its salient characteristics . In the case of the scientific method , the prediction is said to have the power to falsify the hypothesis . In other words , if the prediction can be shown to be false , then the hypothesis must also be false . If the prediction is true , then the hypothesis is supported . So now we have the observation , the hypothesis that explains the observation , and a prediction that is a consequence of the hypothesis . The next step ( 4 ) is to design an experiment to test the prediction , and then ( 5 ) to perform the test . If the prediction fails the test , then it may be abandoned . However , as electrolyte pointed out , the process may be circular , because if the prediction is falsified , additional observation from the test may be used to adjust the hypothesis at ( 2 ) , and a new prediction is made at ( 3 ) , and so on . In creation science , the process stops at ( 2 ) , except that the hypothesis is based on dogma and scripture , not reality ."
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"Ah , thanks for the correction , although there are really many ways to state the method . Last time I checked , i believed that the observation was part of the hypothesis process , but I could be wrong ."
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"As electrolyte pointed out , ( 1 ) the first step in the scientific method is the observation . A scientist observes something that raises a question . ( 2 ) Then comes the hypothesis , that is an attempt to explain the observation ."
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"Ah , thanks for the correction , although there are really many ways to state the method . Last time I checked , i believed that the observation was part of the hypothesis process , but I could be wrong ."
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37,174 | 9,746 |
"You guys know me . Always happy to correct anyone . As electrolyte pointed out , ( 1 ) the first step in the scientific method is the observation . A scientist observes something that raises a question . ( 2 ) Then comes the hypothesis , that is an attempt to explain the observation . The hypothesis can be an educated guess or even wild speculation based on previous knowledge or intuition , or it may be based in previous science and an understanding of scientific principles . ( 3 ) One then makes a prediction that is a necessary consequence of the hypothesis . That science is predictive is one of its salient characteristics . In the case of the scientific method , the prediction is said to have the power to falsify the hypothesis . In other words , if the prediction can be shown to be false , then the hypothesis must also be false . If the prediction is true , then the hypothesis is supported . So now we have the observation , the hypothesis that explains the observation , and a prediction that is a consequence of the hypothesis . The next step ( 4 ) is to design an experiment to test the prediction , and then ( 5 ) to perform the test . If the prediction fails the test , then it may be abandoned . However , as electrolyte pointed out , the process may be circular , because if the prediction is falsified , additional observation from the test may be used to adjust the hypothesis at ( 2 ) , and a new prediction is made at ( 3 ) , and so on . In creation science , the process stops at ( 2 ) , except that the hypothesis is based on dogma and scripture , not reality ."
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"Ah , thanks for the correction , although there are really many ways to state the method . Last time I checked , i believed that the observation was part of the hypothesis process , but I could be wrong ."
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"Always happy to correct anyone"
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"thanks for the correction ,"
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37,177 | 9,747 |
"Hardly any criminals go armed in England , and certainly not with guns . Burglars and muggers have enough sense to know that while getting done for burglary or mugging will not be pleasant , getting done for burglarly or mugging AND possession of a firearm will be far , far worse , assuming they survive the arrival of the armed response squad ."
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"All of the British papers keep going on about how bad it is , how more people than ever are being gunned down in the streets , how guns are being imported into Britain and resold through underground channels , how criminals employ young women to act as gun mules for transporting and storage , etc . Now who should we believe more , your or the papers that relate the news to us ?"
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"Hardly any criminals go armed in England"
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"who should we believe more , your or the papers that relate the news to us ?"
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37,175 | 9,747 |
"Hardly any criminals go armed in England , and certainly not with guns . Burglars and muggers have enough sense to know that while getting done for burglary or mugging will not be pleasant , getting done for burglarly or mugging AND possession of a firearm will be far , far worse , assuming they survive the arrival of the armed response squad ."
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"All of the British papers keep going on about how bad it is , how more people than ever are being gunned down in the streets , how guns are being imported into Britain and resold through underground channels , how criminals employ young women to act as gun mules for transporting and storage , etc . Now who should we believe more , your or the papers that relate the news to us ?"
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"Hardly any criminals go armed in England , and certainly not with guns . Burglars and muggers have enough sense to know that while getting done for burglary or mugging will not be pleasant , getting done for burglarly or mugging AND possession of a firearm will be far , far worse , assuming they survive the arrival of the armed response squad ."
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"All of the British papers keep going on about how bad it is , how more people than ever are being gunned down in the streets Now who should we believe more , your or the papers that relate the news to us ?"
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37,180 | 9,748 |
"And these scriptures have been unchanged for the past 2000-2500 approx years !"
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"Define `` unchanged. ``"
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"And these scriptures have been unchanged for the past 2000-2500 approx years !"
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"Define ``"
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37,179 | 9,748 |
"And these scriptures have been unchanged for the past 2000-2500 approx years !"
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"Define `` unchanged. ``"
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"scriptures have been unchanged"
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"Define `` unchanged. ``"
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37,183 | 9,749 |
"But the sad fact is that the guidebook merely repeats a host of faulty arguments , all of which have been exposed in creation literature for years ."
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"I see . Does the fact that these so-called `` exposures `` are constantly and correctly destroyed by those with Logic not phase you ?"
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"But the sad fact is that the guidebook merely repeats a host of faulty arguments , all of which have been exposed in creation literature for years"
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"I see . Does the fact that these so-called `` exposures `` are constantly and correctly destroyed by those with Logic not phase you ?"
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37,181 | 9,749 |
"But the sad fact is that the guidebook merely repeats a host of faulty arguments , all of which have been exposed in creation literature for years ."
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"I see . Does the fact that these so-called `` exposures `` are constantly and correctly destroyed by those with Logic not phase you ?"
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"the guidebook merely repeats a host of faulty arguments , all of which have been exposed in creation literature"
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"Does the fact that these so-called `` exposures `` are constantly and correctly destroyed by those with Logic not phase you ?"
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37,182 | 9,749 |
"But the sad fact is that the guidebook merely repeats a host of faulty arguments , all of which have been exposed in creation literature for years ."
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"I see . Does the fact that these so-called `` exposures `` are constantly and correctly destroyed by those with Logic not phase you ?"
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"all of which have been exposed in creation literature for years"
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"Does the fact that these so-called `` exposures `` are constantly and correctly destroyed by those with Logic"
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37,185 | 9,750 |
"Agreed , that would be a good reason . The question Cone asked was : should the government be able to make such a policy ? . You and I agree that having a body that can make such decisions has a good reason to exist ."
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"I think there is a difference in saying what you must have and saying what you ca n't have ."
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"should the government be able to make such a policy ? . You and I agree that having a body that can make such decisions has a good reason to exist ."
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"there is a difference in saying what you must have and saying what you ca n't have ."
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37,186 | 9,750 |
"Agreed , that would be a good reason . The question Cone asked was : should the government be able to make such a policy ? . You and I agree that having a body that can make such decisions has a good reason to exist ."
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"I think there is a difference in saying what you must have and saying what you ca n't have ."
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"You and I agree that having a body that can make such decisions has a good reason to exist ."
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"there is a difference in saying what you must have and saying what you ca n't have"
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37,188 | 9,751 |
"Simply naming an area a gun free zone does not make it a gun free zone . If it is truely to be a gun free zone , the law must be enforced . To enforce the law , you must provide a means of security / controlled access to the zone , to screen for and prevent guns from entering the zone . If the law is enforced , the gun free zone will work ."
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"You want kids to be placed in a prison for an education . Do you think they will really like to learn in that type of school ?"
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"you must provide a means of security / controlled access to the zone"
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"want kids to be placed in a prison"
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37,187 | 9,751 |
"Simply naming an area a gun free zone does not make it a gun free zone . If it is truely to be a gun free zone , the law must be enforced . To enforce the law , you must provide a means of security / controlled access to the zone , to screen for and prevent guns from entering the zone . If the law is enforced , the gun free zone will work ."
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"You want kids to be placed in a prison for an education . Do you think they will really like to learn in that type of school ?"
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"To enforce the law , you must provide a means of security / controlled access to the zone , to screen for and prevent guns from entering the zone"
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"prison for an education . Do you think they will really like to learn in that type of school ?"
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37,189 | 9,751 |
"Simply naming an area a gun free zone does not make it a gun free zone . If it is truely to be a gun free zone , the law must be enforced . To enforce the law , you must provide a means of security / controlled access to the zone , to screen for and prevent guns from entering the zone . If the law is enforced , the gun free zone will work ."
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"You want kids to be placed in a prison for an education . Do you think they will really like to learn in that type of school ?"
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"If it is truely to be a gun free zone , the law must be enforced . To enforce the law , you must provide a means of security / controlled access to the zone , to screen for and prevent guns from entering the zone ."
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"You want kids to be placed in a prison for an education . Do you think they will really like to learn in that type of school ?"
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37,190 | 9,752 |
"I personally like this one : `` A species are organisms that live together and can breed together , and whose offspring can also breed together. ``"
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"so why do they call polar bears and brown bears different `` species `` when they can breed and produce fertile offspring together ? Same with different varieties of finches . It seems to me that evos do n't at all go on the ability to breed or produce viable offspring , but instead just on mere looks .... otherwise , why would they have made such obvious mistakes with the bears and finches , not to mention countless others ? I wonder if Big Science would consider black people different `` species `` than say Asian people or white people -- they look different , which is their main criteria .... so why not ? As a creationist , I can very comfortably say that all humans are of the same kind ."
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"A species are organisms that live together and can breed together"
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"when they can breed and produce fertile offspring together ? Same with different varieties of finches"
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37,191 | 9,752 |
"I personally like this one : `` A species are organisms that live together and can breed together , and whose offspring can also breed together. ``"
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"so why do they call polar bears and brown bears different `` species `` when they can breed and produce fertile offspring together ? Same with different varieties of finches . It seems to me that evos do n't at all go on the ability to breed or produce viable offspring , but instead just on mere looks .... otherwise , why would they have made such obvious mistakes with the bears and finches , not to mention countless others ? I wonder if Big Science would consider black people different `` species `` than say Asian people or white people -- they look different , which is their main criteria .... so why not ? As a creationist , I can very comfortably say that all humans are of the same kind ."
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"A species are organisms that live together and can breed together , and whose offspring can also breed together. ``"
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"so why do they call polar bears and brown bears different `` species `` when they can breed and produce fertile offspring together ? Same with different varieties of finches It seems to me that evos do n't at all go on the ability to breed or produce viable offspring , but instead just on mere looks .... otherwise , why would they have made such obvious mistakes with the bears and finches , not to mention countless others ?"
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37,193 | 9,752 |
"I personally like this one : `` A species are organisms that live together and can breed together , and whose offspring can also breed together. ``"
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"so why do they call polar bears and brown bears different `` species `` when they can breed and produce fertile offspring together ? Same with different varieties of finches . It seems to me that evos do n't at all go on the ability to breed or produce viable offspring , but instead just on mere looks .... otherwise , why would they have made such obvious mistakes with the bears and finches , not to mention countless others ? I wonder if Big Science would consider black people different `` species `` than say Asian people or white people -- they look different , which is their main criteria .... so why not ? As a creationist , I can very comfortably say that all humans are of the same kind ."
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"species are organisms that live together and can breed together , and whose offspring can also breed together. ``"
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"why do they call polar bears and brown bears different `` species `` when they can breed and produce fertile offspring together ?"
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"The potentiality argument is often used against those who do not believe that a fetus is worthy of being called a person , a human , or whatever word you prefer to argue over ."
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"Too much spin there buddy . The potentiality arguement is used by those who believe women have a right to have control over their fertility . As an aside it is also a fundemental tenent in Judaism 's view of the unborn- the foetus is a potential life , but has not yet attained that state of being , which occurs at birth ."
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"The potentiality argument is often used against those who do not believe that a fetus is worthy of being called a person ,"
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"Too much spin there buddy ."
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37,195 | 9,753 |
"The potentiality argument is often used against those who do not believe that a fetus is worthy of being called a person , a human , or whatever word you prefer to argue over ."
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"Too much spin there buddy . The potentiality arguement is used by those who believe women have a right to have control over their fertility . As an aside it is also a fundemental tenent in Judaism 's view of the unborn- the foetus is a potential life , but has not yet attained that state of being , which occurs at birth ."
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"The potentiality argument is often used against those who do not believe"
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"The potentiality arguement is used by those who believe women have a right to have control over their fertility"
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37,196 | 9,753 |
"The potentiality argument is often used against those who do not believe that a fetus is worthy of being called a person , a human , or whatever word you prefer to argue over ."
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"Too much spin there buddy . The potentiality arguement is used by those who believe women have a right to have control over their fertility . As an aside it is also a fundemental tenent in Judaism 's view of the unborn- the foetus is a potential life , but has not yet attained that state of being , which occurs at birth ."
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"potentiality argument is often used against those who do not believe that a fetus is worthy of being called a person"
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"Too much spin there buddy . potentiality arguement is used by those who believe women have a right to have control over their"
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37,199 | 9,754 |
"So now I 'm looking for advice . Whats the best way to go up against creationists bastards seeking the brainwash the populace ?"
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"Well good on you for taking a proactive stance against the AiG misinformation campaign To add to what johnhanks said be careful about about insulting them- regardless of how infuriating their position is the weight of evidence and reason is firmly on the side of science . Use this to your advantage as it means you can rise above the personal attacks/character assassination that the likes of AiG so frequently resort to . Secondly be careful in the use of the term creationist- remember AiG are Young Earth Creationists and do not speak for creationists as a whole- there are Christians who accept the analysis of science yet still see the universe as the creation of God ( ie . Old Earth Creationists ) . This is significant as it is important to drive the point home that YEC does not speak on behalf of all Christians ( as it likes to make out ) , but are a group on the fringe whose position is seen as ridiculous by Christian and non-Christian alike . Put this to them and you force them to start attacking fellow Christians . P.S . Welcome to the Forum !"
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"Whats the best way to go up against creationists bastards seeking the brainwash the populace ?"
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"good on you for taking a proactive stance against the AiG misinformation campaign"
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37,198 | 9,754 |
"So now I 'm looking for advice . Whats the best way to go up against creationists bastards seeking the brainwash the populace ?"
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"Well good on you for taking a proactive stance against the AiG misinformation campaign To add to what johnhanks said be careful about about insulting them- regardless of how infuriating their position is the weight of evidence and reason is firmly on the side of science . Use this to your advantage as it means you can rise above the personal attacks/character assassination that the likes of AiG so frequently resort to . Secondly be careful in the use of the term creationist- remember AiG are Young Earth Creationists and do not speak for creationists as a whole- there are Christians who accept the analysis of science yet still see the universe as the creation of God ( ie . Old Earth Creationists ) . This is significant as it is important to drive the point home that YEC does not speak on behalf of all Christians ( as it likes to make out ) , but are a group on the fringe whose position is seen as ridiculous by Christian and non-Christian alike . Put this to them and you force them to start attacking fellow Christians . P.S . Welcome to the Forum !"
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"Whats the best way to go up against creationists bastards seeking the brainwash the populace ?"
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"be careful about about insulting them- regardless of how infuriating their position is the weight of evidence and reason is firmly on the side of science be careful in the use of the term creationist- remember AiG are Young Earth Creationists and do not speak for creationists as a whole- there are Christians who accept the analysis of science yet still see the universe as the creation of God ( ie . Old Earth Creationists ) ."
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"And viability is an ever-changing concept ( a 12-week fetus was delivered recently in Minnesota , and as far as I know is still alive and doing well -- please feel free to update me if you have heard any other news ) ."
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"Actually , I can not accept that claim . Before then , the absolutely youngest ever surviving fetus was deliver at 19 weeks , 6 days . 12 weeks would be a worldwide sensation . I would recommend that you double-check your source . Viability is still defined as the age at which 50 % survive , which still is at around 24 weeks gestation/26 weeks pregnancy ."
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"viability is an ever-changing concept"
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"Viability is still defined as the age at which 50 % survive , which still is at around 24 weeks gestation/26 weeks pregnancy"
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"And viability is an ever-changing concept ( a 12-week fetus was delivered recently in Minnesota , and as far as I know is still alive and doing well -- please feel free to update me if you have heard any other news ) ."
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"Actually , I can not accept that claim . Before then , the absolutely youngest ever surviving fetus was deliver at 19 weeks , 6 days . 12 weeks would be a worldwide sensation . I would recommend that you double-check your source . Viability is still defined as the age at which 50 % survive , which still is at around 24 weeks gestation/26 weeks pregnancy ."
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"a 12-week fetus was delivered recently in Minnesota , and as far as I know is still alive and doing well"
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"12 weeks would be a worldwide sensation . I would recommend that you double-check your source"
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37,204 | 9,755 |
"And viability is an ever-changing concept ( a 12-week fetus was delivered recently in Minnesota , and as far as I know is still alive and doing well -- please feel free to update me if you have heard any other news ) ."
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"Actually , I can not accept that claim . Before then , the absolutely youngest ever surviving fetus was deliver at 19 weeks , 6 days . 12 weeks would be a worldwide sensation . I would recommend that you double-check your source . Viability is still defined as the age at which 50 % survive , which still is at around 24 weeks gestation/26 weeks pregnancy ."
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"viability is an ever-changing concept ( a 12-week fetus was delivered recently in Minnesota , and as far as I know is still alive and doing well"
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"Actually , I can not accept that claim . Before then , the absolutely youngest ever surviving fetus was deliver at 19 weeks , 6 days . 12 weeks would be a worldwide sensation ."
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37,207 | 9,756 |
"'' personally against abortion but pro-choice `` is a way for campaigning politicians to take both sides of the issue IMO ."
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"Excellent point ................ Anyone that is personally against abortions should fight to stop all the unnecessary ones that our performed .........."
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"`` a"
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"Excellent point"
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37,209 | 9,756 |
"'' personally against abortion but pro-choice `` is a way for campaigning politicians to take both sides of the issue IMO ."
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"Excellent point ................ Anyone that is personally against abortions should fight to stop all the unnecessary ones that our performed .........."
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AGREE
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"pro-choice `` is a way for campaigning politicians to take both sides of the issue"
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"point ................ Anyone that is personally against abortions should fight to stop all the unnecessary ones that our performed"
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37,206 | 9,756 |
"'' personally against abortion but pro-choice `` is a way for campaigning politicians to take both sides of the issue IMO ."
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"Excellent point ................ Anyone that is personally against abortions should fight to stop all the unnecessary ones that our performed .........."
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AGREE
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"personally against abortion ``"
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"Anyone that is personally against abortions should fight to stop all the unnecessary ones that our performed"
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37,208 | 9,756 |
"'' personally against abortion but pro-choice `` is a way for campaigning politicians to take both sides of the issue IMO ."
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"Excellent point ................ Anyone that is personally against abortions should fight to stop all the unnecessary ones that our performed .........."
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AGREE
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"`` is a way for campaigning politicians to take both sides of the issue IMO"
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"Excellent point"
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37,210 | 9,757 |
"there were state laws ( not the new admendments ) that made a same sex couple illegal . some of them being writen in the 1800 's"
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"NO , these were all ammedments . all passed . All written recently . There are laws on the book from the 1800 's but that is n't what just passed ."
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DISAGREE
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"there were state laws ( not the new admendments ) that made a same sex couple illegal . some of them being writen in the 1800 's"
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"NO , these were all ammedments . all passed . All written recently . There are laws on the book from the 1800 's but that is n't what just passed ."
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37,211 | 9,757 |
"there were state laws ( not the new admendments ) that made a same sex couple illegal . some of them being writen in the 1800 's"
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"NO , these were all ammedments . all passed . All written recently . There are laws on the book from the 1800 's but that is n't what just passed ."
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DISAGREE
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"state laws ( not the new admendments ) that made a same sex couple some of them being writen in the 1800 's"
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"NO , these were all ammedments . all passed . All written recently ."
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37,216 | 9,758 |
"Science will never be able to disprove any god because of some flaw science happens to point out . The best individuals can do is , when people try to reason that such perfect organs imply a designer , point out that the design is n't all that perfect after all ."
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"Exactly . Trying to prove that God , if he exists , did n't make us as good as an all powerful being should have made us does n't prove anything in the God debate . I could always debate that since God is all powerful and all knowing he could have always thought of something better to do . If he made those changes , then of course there would still be something better he could have thought of . This would be an endless loop of creating something better and better until finally he would have to stop and say that is good enough . But even then this debate that he did n't make us as good as he could have would be valid in my view ."
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AGREE
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"Science will never be able to disprove any god because of some flaw science happens to point out ."
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"Exactly . Trying to prove that God , if he exists"
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37,215 | 9,758 |
"Science will never be able to disprove any god because of some flaw science happens to point out . The best individuals can do is , when people try to reason that such perfect organs imply a designer , point out that the design is n't all that perfect after all ."
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"Exactly . Trying to prove that God , if he exists , did n't make us as good as an all powerful being should have made us does n't prove anything in the God debate . I could always debate that since God is all powerful and all knowing he could have always thought of something better to do . If he made those changes , then of course there would still be something better he could have thought of . This would be an endless loop of creating something better and better until finally he would have to stop and say that is good enough . But even then this debate that he did n't make us as good as he could have would be valid in my view ."
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AGREE
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"Science will never be able to disprove any god because of some flaw science happens to point out ."
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"Exactly . Trying to prove that God , if he exists , did n't make us as good as an all powerful being should have made us does n't prove anything in the God debate ."
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37,214 | 9,758 |
"Science will never be able to disprove any god because of some flaw science happens to point out . The best individuals can do is , when people try to reason that such perfect organs imply a designer , point out that the design is n't all that perfect after all ."
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"Exactly . Trying to prove that God , if he exists , did n't make us as good as an all powerful being should have made us does n't prove anything in the God debate . I could always debate that since God is all powerful and all knowing he could have always thought of something better to do . If he made those changes , then of course there would still be something better he could have thought of . This would be an endless loop of creating something better and better until finally he would have to stop and say that is good enough . But even then this debate that he did n't make us as good as he could have would be valid in my view ."
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AGREE
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"Science will never be able to disprove any god because of some flaw science happens to point out . when people try to reason that such perfect organs imply a designer , point out that the design is n't all that perfect after all ."
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"Exactly . Trying to prove that God , if he exists , did n't make us as good as an all powerful being should have made us does n't prove anything in the God debate . This would be an endless loop of creating something better and better until finally he would have to stop and say that is good enough . But even then this debate that he did n't make us as good as he could have would be valid in my view ."
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37,218 | 9,759 |
"If you 're after concealment my favorite and regular carry is the Kel-Tec .380 . Fits in the watch pocket of a pair of Levis , feeds six hollow points flawlessly and weighs almost nothing . Several of our deputy sheriffs carry them as summer off-duty pieces , which is how I discovered the convenience ."
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"That is a nice little pistol with lots of smack for only 11 onces . Also , I like DA automatics ."
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AGREE
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"If you 're after concealment my favorite and regular carry is the Kel-Tec .380 ."
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"That is a nice little pistol with lots of smack for only 11 onces . Also , I like DA automatics ."
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37,221 | 9,759 |
"If you 're after concealment my favorite and regular carry is the Kel-Tec .380 . Fits in the watch pocket of a pair of Levis , feeds six hollow points flawlessly and weighs almost nothing . Several of our deputy sheriffs carry them as summer off-duty pieces , which is how I discovered the convenience ."
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"That is a nice little pistol with lots of smack for only 11 onces . Also , I like DA automatics ."
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AGREE
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"If you 're after concealment my favorite and regular carry is the Kel-Tec"
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"That is a nice little pistol"
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37,220 | 9,759 |
"If you 're after concealment my favorite and regular carry is the Kel-Tec .380 . Fits in the watch pocket of a pair of Levis , feeds six hollow points flawlessly and weighs almost nothing . Several of our deputy sheriffs carry them as summer off-duty pieces , which is how I discovered the convenience ."
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"That is a nice little pistol with lots of smack for only 11 onces . Also , I like DA automatics ."
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AGREE
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"If you 're after concealment my favorite and regular carry is the Kel-Tec .380 ."
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"That is a nice little pistol with lots of smack for only 11 onces"
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37,223 | 9,760 |
"1 . ) Refusing to comment on scientific procedure means absolutely nothing . Maybe we do n't have anything to say . 2 . ) Testing your beliefs of your own scientific conclusions is not wrong ."
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"# 2 was questioning the personal , non-scientific beliefs of the evolution believer"
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DISAGREE
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"Testing your beliefs of your own scientific conclusions is not wrong ."
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"# 2 was questioning the personal , non-scientific beliefs of the evolution believer"
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37,226 | 9,760 |
"1 . ) Refusing to comment on scientific procedure means absolutely nothing . Maybe we do n't have anything to say . 2 . ) Testing your beliefs of your own scientific conclusions is not wrong ."
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"# 2 was questioning the personal , non-scientific beliefs of the evolution believer"
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DISAGREE
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"Testing your beliefs of your own scientific conclusions is not wrong ."
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"was questioning the personal , non-scientific beliefs of the evolution believer"
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37,225 | 9,760 |
"1 . ) Refusing to comment on scientific procedure means absolutely nothing . Maybe we do n't have anything to say . 2 . ) Testing your beliefs of your own scientific conclusions is not wrong ."
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"# 2 was questioning the personal , non-scientific beliefs of the evolution believer"
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DISAGREE
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"Testing your beliefs of your own scientific conclusions is not wrong ."
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"non-scientific beliefs of the evolution believer"
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37,230 | 9,761 |
"Those quotes have nothing to do with abortion . This one has to do with babys in the woumb `` Befor I formmed you in the woumb , I knew you , and before you were born I consecrated you ; I appointed you a prophet amoungst nations `` Jeremiah 1:4-5 I think this is rellavent because God wants everyone to be a prophet who he can work through ."
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"If that were true , why are there millions of miscarriages each year ? I do n't believe a word of it ."
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DISAGREE
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"This one has to do with babys in the woumb `` Befor I formmed you in the woumb , I knew you"
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"If that were true , why are there millions of miscarriages each year ?"
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37,231 | 9,761 |
"Those quotes have nothing to do with abortion . This one has to do with babys in the woumb `` Befor I formmed you in the woumb , I knew you , and before you were born I consecrated you ; I appointed you a prophet amoungst nations `` Jeremiah 1:4-5 I think this is rellavent because God wants everyone to be a prophet who he can work through ."
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"If that were true , why are there millions of miscarriages each year ? I do n't believe a word of it ."
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DISAGREE
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"Those quotes have nothing to do with abortion . This one has to do with babys in the woumb `` Befor I formmed you in the woumb"
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"why are there millions of miscarriages each year ? I do n't believe a word of it ."
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37,227 | 9,761 |
"Those quotes have nothing to do with abortion . This one has to do with babys in the woumb `` Befor I formmed you in the woumb , I knew you , and before you were born I consecrated you ; I appointed you a prophet amoungst nations `` Jeremiah 1:4-5 I think this is rellavent because God wants everyone to be a prophet who he can work through ."
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"If that were true , why are there millions of miscarriages each year ? I do n't believe a word of it ."
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DISAGREE
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"God wants everyone to be a prophet who he can work through ."
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"I do n't believe a word of it ."
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37,236 | 9,762 |
"I jsut voted . sorry if some people actually have , you know , LIVES and do n't sit around all day on debate forums to cater to some atheists posts that he thiks they should drop everything for . As to the rest of your post , well , from your attitude I can tell you are not Christian in the least . Therefore I am content in knowing where people that spew garbage like this will end up in the End ."
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"No , let me guess . . . er . . . McDonalds . No , Disneyland . Am I getting closer ?"
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DISAGREE
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"jsut voted . sorry if some people actually have , you know , LIVES and do n't sit around all day on debate forums to cater to some atheists"
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"No , let me guess . . . er . . . McDonalds . No , Disneyland . Am I getting closer ?"
| null | null |
37,232 | 9,762 |
"I jsut voted . sorry if some people actually have , you know , LIVES and do n't sit around all day on debate forums to cater to some atheists posts that he thiks they should drop everything for . As to the rest of your post , well , from your attitude I can tell you are not Christian in the least . Therefore I am content in knowing where people that spew garbage like this will end up in the End ."
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"No , let me guess . . . er . . . McDonalds . No , Disneyland . Am I getting closer ?"
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DISAGREE
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"Therefore I am content in knowing where people that spew garbage like this will end up in the End ."
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"Am I getting closer ?"
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37,234 | 9,762 |
"I jsut voted . sorry if some people actually have , you know , LIVES and do n't sit around all day on debate forums to cater to some atheists posts that he thiks they should drop everything for . As to the rest of your post , well , from your attitude I can tell you are not Christian in the least . Therefore I am content in knowing where people that spew garbage like this will end up in the End ."
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"No , let me guess . . . er . . . McDonalds . No , Disneyland . Am I getting closer ?"
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DISAGREE
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"from your attitude I can tell you are not Christian in the least . Therefore I am content in knowing where people that spew garbage like this will end up in the End ."
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"No , let me guess . . . er . . . McDonalds . No , Disneyland . Am I getting closer ?"
| null | null |
37,233 | 9,762 |
"I jsut voted . sorry if some people actually have , you know , LIVES and do n't sit around all day on debate forums to cater to some atheists posts that he thiks they should drop everything for . As to the rest of your post , well , from your attitude I can tell you are not Christian in the least . Therefore I am content in knowing where people that spew garbage like this will end up in the End ."
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"No , let me guess . . . er . . . McDonalds . No , Disneyland . Am I getting closer ?"
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DISAGREE
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"As to the rest of your post , well , from your attitude I can tell you are not Christian in the least ."
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"Disneyland . Am I getting closer ?"
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37,239 | 9,763 |
"Antiabortion Effort in Europe , With U.S. Money , Widens Its Conservative Agenda"
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"So the latest imported culture from the US of A . Do n't worry though , while we get the Anti-abortionists from stateside , America gets our animal rights activists in return"
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AGREE
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"Antiabortion Effort in Europe , With U.S. Money , Widens Its Conservative Agenda"
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"So the latest imported culture from the US of A . Do n't worry though , while we get the Anti-abortionists from stateside"
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37,241 | 9,763 |
"Antiabortion Effort in Europe , With U.S. Money , Widens Its Conservative Agenda"
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"So the latest imported culture from the US of A . Do n't worry though , while we get the Anti-abortionists from stateside , America gets our animal rights activists in return"
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AGREE
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"Antiabortion Effort in Europe , With U.S. Money , Widens Its Conservative Agenda"
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"while we get the Anti-abortionists from stateside , America gets our animal rights activists in return"
| null | null |
37,238 | 9,763 |
"Antiabortion Effort in Europe , With U.S. Money , Widens Its Conservative Agenda"
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"So the latest imported culture from the US of A . Do n't worry though , while we get the Anti-abortionists from stateside , America gets our animal rights activists in return"
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AGREE
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"Antiabortion Effort in Europe , With U.S. Money , Widens Its Conservative Agenda"
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"Do n't worry though , while we get the Anti-abortionists from stateside"
| null | null |
37,240 | 9,763 |
"Antiabortion Effort in Europe , With U.S. Money , Widens Its Conservative Agenda"
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"So the latest imported culture from the US of A . Do n't worry though , while we get the Anti-abortionists from stateside , America gets our animal rights activists in return"
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AGREE
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"Antiabortion Effort in Europe , With U.S. Money , Widens Its Conservative Agenda"
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"So the latest imported culture from the US of A ."
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37,242 | 9,764 |
"Yet another anti-Christian post by a gay activist ."
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"Yet another false assessment . Why is posting Christian historical context `` anti-Christian `` ?"
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DISAGREE
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"Yet another anti-Christian post by a gay activist"
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"Why is posting Christian historical context `` anti-Christian `` ?"
| null | null |
37,244 | 9,764 |
"Yet another anti-Christian post by a gay activist ."
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"Yet another false assessment . Why is posting Christian historical context `` anti-Christian `` ?"
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DISAGREE
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"Yet another anti-Christian post by a gay activist ."
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"Yet another false assessment . Why is posting Christian historical context `` anti-Christian `` ?"
| null | null |
37,246 | 9,764 |
"Yet another anti-Christian post by a gay activist ."
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"Yet another false assessment . Why is posting Christian historical context `` anti-Christian `` ?"
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DISAGREE
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"Yet another anti-Christian post by a gay activist ."
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"Yet another false assessment . Why is posting Christian historical context `` anti-Christian `` ?"
| null | null |
37,245 | 9,764 |
"Yet another anti-Christian post by a gay activist ."
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"Yet another false assessment . Why is posting Christian historical context `` anti-Christian `` ?"
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DISAGREE
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"Yet another anti-Christian post by a gay activist ."
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"Yet another false assessment . Why is posting Christian historical context `` anti-Christian `` ?"
| null | null |
37,243 | 9,764 |
"Yet another anti-Christian post by a gay activist ."
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"Yet another false assessment . Why is posting Christian historical context `` anti-Christian `` ?"
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DISAGREE
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"Yet another anti-Christian post by a gay activist ."
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"Yet another false assessment . Why is posting Christian historical context `` anti-Christian `` ?"
| null | null |
37,247 | 9,765 |
"`` Babies `` are a stage reached after birth . If you are talking about abortions , then no babies are involved , anti-choice , histrionic revisionist linguistics none withstanding"
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"Baby can be used to describe a human fetus . Get over it ."
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DISAGREE
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"Babies `` are a stage reached after birth . If you are talking about abortions , then no babies are involved"
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"Baby can be used to describe a human fetus . Get over it ."
| null | null |
37,251 | 9,765 |
"`` Babies `` are a stage reached after birth . If you are talking about abortions , then no babies are involved , anti-choice , histrionic revisionist linguistics none withstanding"
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"Baby can be used to describe a human fetus . Get over it ."
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DISAGREE
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"Babies `` are a stage reached after birth . If you are talking about"
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"Get over it ."
| null | null |
37,250 | 9,765 |
"`` Babies `` are a stage reached after birth . If you are talking about abortions , then no babies are involved , anti-choice , histrionic revisionist linguistics none withstanding"
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"Baby can be used to describe a human fetus . Get over it ."
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DISAGREE
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"If you are talking about abortions , then no babies are involved , anti-choice , histrionic revisionist linguistics none withstanding"
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"Baby can be used to describe a human fetus ."
| null | null |
37,249 | 9,765 |
"`` Babies `` are a stage reached after birth . If you are talking about abortions , then no babies are involved , anti-choice , histrionic revisionist linguistics none withstanding"
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"Baby can be used to describe a human fetus . Get over it ."
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DISAGREE
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"Babies `` are a stage reached after birth . If you are talking about abortions , then no babies are involved , anti-choice , histrionic revisionist linguistics none withstanding"
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"Baby can be used to describe a human fetus ."
| null | null |
37,255 | 9,773 |
"You do n't really care which side , you just like the argument , huh ?"
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"If you were n't a newbie , you 'd know that I was anti-abortion ."
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DISAGREE
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"You do n't really care which side , you just like the argument , huh ?"
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"If you were n't a newbie , you 'd know that I was anti-abortion"
| null | null |
37,256 | 9,773 |
"You do n't really care which side , you just like the argument , huh ?"
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"If you were n't a newbie , you 'd know that I was anti-abortion ."
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DISAGREE
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"You do n't really care which side , you just like the argument , huh ?"
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"If you were n't a newbie , you 'd know that I was anti-abortion"
| null | null |
37,252 | 9,773 |
"You do n't really care which side , you just like the argument , huh ?"
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"If you were n't a newbie , you 'd know that I was anti-abortion ."
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DISAGREE
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"You do n't really care which side"
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"I was anti-abortion"
| null | null |
37,253 | 9,773 |
"You do n't really care which side , you just like the argument , huh ?"
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"If you were n't a newbie , you 'd know that I was anti-abortion ."
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DISAGREE
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"You do n't really care which side , you just like the argument , huh ?"
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"If you were n't a newbie , you 'd know that I was anti-abortion ."
| null | null |
37,257 | 9,773 |
"You do n't really care which side , you just like the argument , huh ?"
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"If you were n't a newbie , you 'd know that I was anti-abortion ."
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DISAGREE
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"You do n't really care you just like the argument"
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"If you were n't a newbie anti-abortion ."
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37,261 | 9,774 |
"That 's where this thing becomes problematic , because those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system/religion because of your belief system ."
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"No one is asking him to change his belief system he only needs to keep that belief system out of the law that effects the rights of gay people ."
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AGREE
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"those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system/religion because of your belief system ."
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"No one is asking him to change his belief system he only needs to keep that belief system out of the law that effects the rights of gay people ."
| null | null |
37,259 | 9,774 |
"That 's where this thing becomes problematic , because those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system/religion because of your belief system ."
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"No one is asking him to change his belief system he only needs to keep that belief system out of the law that effects the rights of gay people ."
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AGREE
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"That 's where this thing becomes problematic , because those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system/religion because of your belief system ."
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"he only needs to keep that belief system out of the law that effects the rights of gay people ."
| null | null |
37,260 | 9,774 |
"That 's where this thing becomes problematic , because those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system/religion because of your belief system ."
|
"No one is asking him to change his belief system he only needs to keep that belief system out of the law that effects the rights of gay people ."
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AGREE
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"That 's where this thing becomes problematic , because those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system/religion because of your belief system ."
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"No one is asking him to change his belief system he only needs to keep that belief system out of the law that effects the rights of gay people ."
| null | null |
37,262 | 9,774 |
"That 's where this thing becomes problematic , because those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system/religion because of your belief system ."
|
"No one is asking him to change his belief system he only needs to keep that belief system out of the law that effects the rights of gay people ."
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AGREE
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"That 's where this thing becomes problematic , because those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system/religion because of your belief system ."
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"No one is asking him to change his belief system"
| null | null |
37,258 | 9,774 |
"That 's where this thing becomes problematic , because those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system/religion because of your belief system ."
|
"No one is asking him to change his belief system he only needs to keep that belief system out of the law that effects the rights of gay people ."
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AGREE
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"thing becomes problematic I must change my entire belief system/religion"
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"asking him to change his belief system belief system out of the law that effects rights of gay people ."
| null | null |
37,263 | 9,774 |
"That 's where this thing becomes problematic , because those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system/religion because of your belief system ."
|
"No one is asking him to change his belief system he only needs to keep that belief system out of the law that effects the rights of gay people ."
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AGREE
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"those who hold to that view are saying I must change my entire belief system"
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"No one is asking him to change his belief system"
| null | null |
37,265 | 9,775 |
"What is science ? The first place to start is with a definition of science . Many exist , but most of them come down to something like ,  “ If something is scientific , it is observable and testable ( i.e. , able to be repeated ) . ” Now it might surprise readers without a scientific background to hear me say that very few scientists have any real idea what science is . However , if you are a scientist you will probably acknowledge the truth of this seemingly nonsensical statement . In my undergraduate studies and postgraduate research , I can ’ t ever recall anyone telling me what science is ( and isn ’ t ! ) , showing me what it is , or providing me with an explanation of how it operates . If you are studying science or working with scientists and you doubt me , I challenge you to ask them for a definition of what is  “ scientific. ” After a pause , most of them would not be able to give an answer much deeper than  “ It is what scientists do. ” As an undergraduate , I was taught to remember , not to think . Sure , I was given tools which I could use to think , but I wasn ’ t actually taught to think . Then , as a Ph.D. researcher I worked in a very narrow field ( as do all Ph.D. researchers ) , and so the breadth of a question like  “ What is the definition of scientific ?  ” was absolutely irrelevant to me . Upon graduation and working as a research scientist for 17 years and as a leader of other scientists , the question has never arisen , nor apparently needed to have been asked . My point is that most scientists don ’ t really know what is or isn ’ t scientific , because it rarely affects what they do . Why make a big deal of this ? The reason is because creation and evolution are actually both outside the realms of science and , to know this , you need to know what science is—and as we have seen , most scientists don ’ t . Neither  “ process ” is currently observable , testable or repeatable . Please note that when speaking of evolution , I am talking of the appearance of new ( not rearranged ) genetic information leading to greater and greater complexity of genetic information . I am also talking about the appearance of life starting from inanimate chemicals . When talking about evolution , I am not speaking of natural selection , which leads to a reduction in genetic information in those species . Creationists , of course , have not the slightest problem with natural selection . After all , it has been practiced by farmers for centuries in their breeding of plants and animals through selecting preferred offspring and mating or propagating these . Anyway , the theory of natural selection was described by creation-believing scientists long before Darwin boarded the Beagle ."
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"http : //www.answersingenesis.org/home ... sd/grocott.asp So who decides what is or is n't science ? If what was taught in science classes was no more controversial than the freezing point of water or the melting point of lead , then maybe it could be defined in a way that everyone could agree on . But when it gets into theories and hypothesis about one time events that happened thousands , or billions of years ago , its time to set aside what we think science is , and ask ourselves what science class is trying to accomplish . If we take students to a theoretic area where we suspect there is more to be discovered , is n't it time to consider teaching them HOW to think , not WHAT to think ? Can we do that by ruling an entire concept out , in a society that exercises free inquiry and advocates progress ? Every subject taught in school is different , but science is , ( and has to be ) about so much more than teaching prior knowledge . 2 ) Let 's look at the dictionary.com definition of religion ;"
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"What is science ? The first place to start is with a definition of science . Many exist , but most of them come down to something like ,  If something is scientific , it is observable and testable ( i.e. , able to be repeated ) . Now it might surprise readers without a scientific background to hear me say that very few scientists have any real idea what science is ."
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"So who decides what is or is n't science ? If what was taught in science classes was no more controversial than the freezing point of water or the melting point of lead , then maybe it could be defined in a way that everyone could agree"
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37,266 | 9,775 |
"What is science ? The first place to start is with a definition of science . Many exist , but most of them come down to something like ,  “ If something is scientific , it is observable and testable ( i.e. , able to be repeated ) . ” Now it might surprise readers without a scientific background to hear me say that very few scientists have any real idea what science is . However , if you are a scientist you will probably acknowledge the truth of this seemingly nonsensical statement . In my undergraduate studies and postgraduate research , I can ’ t ever recall anyone telling me what science is ( and isn ’ t ! ) , showing me what it is , or providing me with an explanation of how it operates . If you are studying science or working with scientists and you doubt me , I challenge you to ask them for a definition of what is  “ scientific. ” After a pause , most of them would not be able to give an answer much deeper than  “ It is what scientists do. ” As an undergraduate , I was taught to remember , not to think . Sure , I was given tools which I could use to think , but I wasn ’ t actually taught to think . Then , as a Ph.D. researcher I worked in a very narrow field ( as do all Ph.D. researchers ) , and so the breadth of a question like  “ What is the definition of scientific ?  ” was absolutely irrelevant to me . Upon graduation and working as a research scientist for 17 years and as a leader of other scientists , the question has never arisen , nor apparently needed to have been asked . My point is that most scientists don ’ t really know what is or isn ’ t scientific , because it rarely affects what they do . Why make a big deal of this ? The reason is because creation and evolution are actually both outside the realms of science and , to know this , you need to know what science is—and as we have seen , most scientists don ’ t . Neither  “ process ” is currently observable , testable or repeatable . Please note that when speaking of evolution , I am talking of the appearance of new ( not rearranged ) genetic information leading to greater and greater complexity of genetic information . I am also talking about the appearance of life starting from inanimate chemicals . When talking about evolution , I am not speaking of natural selection , which leads to a reduction in genetic information in those species . Creationists , of course , have not the slightest problem with natural selection . After all , it has been practiced by farmers for centuries in their breeding of plants and animals through selecting preferred offspring and mating or propagating these . Anyway , the theory of natural selection was described by creation-believing scientists long before Darwin boarded the Beagle ."
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"http : //www.answersingenesis.org/home ... sd/grocott.asp So who decides what is or is n't science ? If what was taught in science classes was no more controversial than the freezing point of water or the melting point of lead , then maybe it could be defined in a way that everyone could agree on . But when it gets into theories and hypothesis about one time events that happened thousands , or billions of years ago , its time to set aside what we think science is , and ask ourselves what science class is trying to accomplish . If we take students to a theoretic area where we suspect there is more to be discovered , is n't it time to consider teaching them HOW to think , not WHAT to think ? Can we do that by ruling an entire concept out , in a society that exercises free inquiry and advocates progress ? Every subject taught in school is different , but science is , ( and has to be ) about so much more than teaching prior knowledge . 2 ) Let 's look at the dictionary.com definition of religion ;"
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"might surprise readers without a scientific background to hear me say that very few scientists have any real idea what science is . However , if you are a scientist you will probably acknowledge the truth of this seemingly nonsensical statement It"
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"So who decides what is or is n't science ?"
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37,268 | 9,775 |
"What is science ? The first place to start is with a definition of science . Many exist , but most of them come down to something like ,  “ If something is scientific , it is observable and testable ( i.e. , able to be repeated ) . ” Now it might surprise readers without a scientific background to hear me say that very few scientists have any real idea what science is . However , if you are a scientist you will probably acknowledge the truth of this seemingly nonsensical statement . In my undergraduate studies and postgraduate research , I can ’ t ever recall anyone telling me what science is ( and isn ’ t ! ) , showing me what it is , or providing me with an explanation of how it operates . If you are studying science or working with scientists and you doubt me , I challenge you to ask them for a definition of what is  “ scientific. ” After a pause , most of them would not be able to give an answer much deeper than  “ It is what scientists do. ” As an undergraduate , I was taught to remember , not to think . Sure , I was given tools which I could use to think , but I wasn ’ t actually taught to think . Then , as a Ph.D. researcher I worked in a very narrow field ( as do all Ph.D. researchers ) , and so the breadth of a question like  “ What is the definition of scientific ?  ” was absolutely irrelevant to me . Upon graduation and working as a research scientist for 17 years and as a leader of other scientists , the question has never arisen , nor apparently needed to have been asked . My point is that most scientists don ’ t really know what is or isn ’ t scientific , because it rarely affects what they do . Why make a big deal of this ? The reason is because creation and evolution are actually both outside the realms of science and , to know this , you need to know what science is—and as we have seen , most scientists don ’ t . Neither  “ process ” is currently observable , testable or repeatable . Please note that when speaking of evolution , I am talking of the appearance of new ( not rearranged ) genetic information leading to greater and greater complexity of genetic information . I am also talking about the appearance of life starting from inanimate chemicals . When talking about evolution , I am not speaking of natural selection , which leads to a reduction in genetic information in those species . Creationists , of course , have not the slightest problem with natural selection . After all , it has been practiced by farmers for centuries in their breeding of plants and animals through selecting preferred offspring and mating or propagating these . Anyway , the theory of natural selection was described by creation-believing scientists long before Darwin boarded the Beagle ."
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"http : //www.answersingenesis.org/home ... sd/grocott.asp So who decides what is or is n't science ? If what was taught in science classes was no more controversial than the freezing point of water or the melting point of lead , then maybe it could be defined in a way that everyone could agree on . But when it gets into theories and hypothesis about one time events that happened thousands , or billions of years ago , its time to set aside what we think science is , and ask ourselves what science class is trying to accomplish . If we take students to a theoretic area where we suspect there is more to be discovered , is n't it time to consider teaching them HOW to think , not WHAT to think ? Can we do that by ruling an entire concept out , in a society that exercises free inquiry and advocates progress ? Every subject taught in school is different , but science is , ( and has to be ) about so much more than teaching prior knowledge . 2 ) Let 's look at the dictionary.com definition of religion ;"
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"What is the definition of scientific ? Please note that when speaking of evolution , Anyway , the theory of natural selection was described by creation-believing"
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"then maybe it could be defined in a way that everyone could agree on . a theoretic area where we suspect there is more to be discovered"
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37,264 | 9,775 |
"What is science ? The first place to start is with a definition of science . Many exist , but most of them come down to something like ,  “ If something is scientific , it is observable and testable ( i.e. , able to be repeated ) . ” Now it might surprise readers without a scientific background to hear me say that very few scientists have any real idea what science is . However , if you are a scientist you will probably acknowledge the truth of this seemingly nonsensical statement . In my undergraduate studies and postgraduate research , I can ’ t ever recall anyone telling me what science is ( and isn ’ t ! ) , showing me what it is , or providing me with an explanation of how it operates . If you are studying science or working with scientists and you doubt me , I challenge you to ask them for a definition of what is  “ scientific. ” After a pause , most of them would not be able to give an answer much deeper than  “ It is what scientists do. ” As an undergraduate , I was taught to remember , not to think . Sure , I was given tools which I could use to think , but I wasn ’ t actually taught to think . Then , as a Ph.D. researcher I worked in a very narrow field ( as do all Ph.D. researchers ) , and so the breadth of a question like  “ What is the definition of scientific ?  ” was absolutely irrelevant to me . Upon graduation and working as a research scientist for 17 years and as a leader of other scientists , the question has never arisen , nor apparently needed to have been asked . My point is that most scientists don ’ t really know what is or isn ’ t scientific , because it rarely affects what they do . Why make a big deal of this ? The reason is because creation and evolution are actually both outside the realms of science and , to know this , you need to know what science is—and as we have seen , most scientists don ’ t . Neither  “ process ” is currently observable , testable or repeatable . Please note that when speaking of evolution , I am talking of the appearance of new ( not rearranged ) genetic information leading to greater and greater complexity of genetic information . I am also talking about the appearance of life starting from inanimate chemicals . When talking about evolution , I am not speaking of natural selection , which leads to a reduction in genetic information in those species . Creationists , of course , have not the slightest problem with natural selection . After all , it has been practiced by farmers for centuries in their breeding of plants and animals through selecting preferred offspring and mating or propagating these . Anyway , the theory of natural selection was described by creation-believing scientists long before Darwin boarded the Beagle ."
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"http : //www.answersingenesis.org/home ... sd/grocott.asp So who decides what is or is n't science ? If what was taught in science classes was no more controversial than the freezing point of water or the melting point of lead , then maybe it could be defined in a way that everyone could agree on . But when it gets into theories and hypothesis about one time events that happened thousands , or billions of years ago , its time to set aside what we think science is , and ask ourselves what science class is trying to accomplish . If we take students to a theoretic area where we suspect there is more to be discovered , is n't it time to consider teaching them HOW to think , not WHAT to think ? Can we do that by ruling an entire concept out , in a society that exercises free inquiry and advocates progress ? Every subject taught in school is different , but science is , ( and has to be ) about so much more than teaching prior knowledge . 2 ) Let 's look at the dictionary.com definition of religion ;"
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"What is science ? very few scientists have any real idea what science is ."
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"... So who decides what is or is n't science ? time to set aside what we think science is"
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37,269 | 9,775 |
"What is science ? The first place to start is with a definition of science . Many exist , but most of them come down to something like ,  “ If something is scientific , it is observable and testable ( i.e. , able to be repeated ) . ” Now it might surprise readers without a scientific background to hear me say that very few scientists have any real idea what science is . However , if you are a scientist you will probably acknowledge the truth of this seemingly nonsensical statement . In my undergraduate studies and postgraduate research , I can ’ t ever recall anyone telling me what science is ( and isn ’ t ! ) , showing me what it is , or providing me with an explanation of how it operates . If you are studying science or working with scientists and you doubt me , I challenge you to ask them for a definition of what is  “ scientific. ” After a pause , most of them would not be able to give an answer much deeper than  “ It is what scientists do. ” As an undergraduate , I was taught to remember , not to think . Sure , I was given tools which I could use to think , but I wasn ’ t actually taught to think . Then , as a Ph.D. researcher I worked in a very narrow field ( as do all Ph.D. researchers ) , and so the breadth of a question like  “ What is the definition of scientific ?  ” was absolutely irrelevant to me . Upon graduation and working as a research scientist for 17 years and as a leader of other scientists , the question has never arisen , nor apparently needed to have been asked . My point is that most scientists don ’ t really know what is or isn ’ t scientific , because it rarely affects what they do . Why make a big deal of this ? The reason is because creation and evolution are actually both outside the realms of science and , to know this , you need to know what science is—and as we have seen , most scientists don ’ t . Neither  “ process ” is currently observable , testable or repeatable . Please note that when speaking of evolution , I am talking of the appearance of new ( not rearranged ) genetic information leading to greater and greater complexity of genetic information . I am also talking about the appearance of life starting from inanimate chemicals . When talking about evolution , I am not speaking of natural selection , which leads to a reduction in genetic information in those species . Creationists , of course , have not the slightest problem with natural selection . After all , it has been practiced by farmers for centuries in their breeding of plants and animals through selecting preferred offspring and mating or propagating these . Anyway , the theory of natural selection was described by creation-believing scientists long before Darwin boarded the Beagle ."
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"http : //www.answersingenesis.org/home ... sd/grocott.asp So who decides what is or is n't science ? If what was taught in science classes was no more controversial than the freezing point of water or the melting point of lead , then maybe it could be defined in a way that everyone could agree on . But when it gets into theories and hypothesis about one time events that happened thousands , or billions of years ago , its time to set aside what we think science is , and ask ourselves what science class is trying to accomplish . If we take students to a theoretic area where we suspect there is more to be discovered , is n't it time to consider teaching them HOW to think , not WHAT to think ? Can we do that by ruling an entire concept out , in a society that exercises free inquiry and advocates progress ? Every subject taught in school is different , but science is , ( and has to be ) about so much more than teaching prior knowledge . 2 ) Let 's look at the dictionary.com definition of religion ;"
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"What is science ? The first place to start is with a definition of science . Many exist , but most of them come down to something like , Â If something is scientific , it is observable and testable"
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"who decides what is or is n't science ? If what was taught in science classes was no more controversial than the freezing point of water or the melting point of lead"
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37,267 | 9,775 |
"What is science ? The first place to start is with a definition of science . Many exist , but most of them come down to something like ,  “ If something is scientific , it is observable and testable ( i.e. , able to be repeated ) . ” Now it might surprise readers without a scientific background to hear me say that very few scientists have any real idea what science is . However , if you are a scientist you will probably acknowledge the truth of this seemingly nonsensical statement . In my undergraduate studies and postgraduate research , I can ’ t ever recall anyone telling me what science is ( and isn ’ t ! ) , showing me what it is , or providing me with an explanation of how it operates . If you are studying science or working with scientists and you doubt me , I challenge you to ask them for a definition of what is  “ scientific. ” After a pause , most of them would not be able to give an answer much deeper than  “ It is what scientists do. ” As an undergraduate , I was taught to remember , not to think . Sure , I was given tools which I could use to think , but I wasn ’ t actually taught to think . Then , as a Ph.D. researcher I worked in a very narrow field ( as do all Ph.D. researchers ) , and so the breadth of a question like  “ What is the definition of scientific ?  ” was absolutely irrelevant to me . Upon graduation and working as a research scientist for 17 years and as a leader of other scientists , the question has never arisen , nor apparently needed to have been asked . My point is that most scientists don ’ t really know what is or isn ’ t scientific , because it rarely affects what they do . Why make a big deal of this ? The reason is because creation and evolution are actually both outside the realms of science and , to know this , you need to know what science is—and as we have seen , most scientists don ’ t . Neither  “ process ” is currently observable , testable or repeatable . Please note that when speaking of evolution , I am talking of the appearance of new ( not rearranged ) genetic information leading to greater and greater complexity of genetic information . I am also talking about the appearance of life starting from inanimate chemicals . When talking about evolution , I am not speaking of natural selection , which leads to a reduction in genetic information in those species . Creationists , of course , have not the slightest problem with natural selection . After all , it has been practiced by farmers for centuries in their breeding of plants and animals through selecting preferred offspring and mating or propagating these . Anyway , the theory of natural selection was described by creation-believing scientists long before Darwin boarded the Beagle ."
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"http : //www.answersingenesis.org/home ... sd/grocott.asp So who decides what is or is n't science ? If what was taught in science classes was no more controversial than the freezing point of water or the melting point of lead , then maybe it could be defined in a way that everyone could agree on . But when it gets into theories and hypothesis about one time events that happened thousands , or billions of years ago , its time to set aside what we think science is , and ask ourselves what science class is trying to accomplish . If we take students to a theoretic area where we suspect there is more to be discovered , is n't it time to consider teaching them HOW to think , not WHAT to think ? Can we do that by ruling an entire concept out , in a society that exercises free inquiry and advocates progress ? Every subject taught in school is different , but science is , ( and has to be ) about so much more than teaching prior knowledge . 2 ) Let 's look at the dictionary.com definition of religion ;"
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"What is science ? The first place to start is with a definition of science ."
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"So who decides what is or is n't science ?"
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37,273 | 9,776 |
"Thank you so much for posting solid evidence why more honest people must own weapons for self defense Galileo ."
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"But if you had read carefully the information that I provided you would realize : The people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime and are probably doing more to cause the problem than to solve it . So throwing more guns at the problem does n't seem to make much sense ."
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"you so much for posting solid evidence why more honest people must own weapons for self defense"
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"The people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime and are probably doing more to cause the problem than to solve it ."
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37,270 | 9,776 |
"Thank you so much for posting solid evidence why more honest people must own weapons for self defense Galileo ."
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"But if you had read carefully the information that I provided you would realize : The people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime and are probably doing more to cause the problem than to solve it . So throwing more guns at the problem does n't seem to make much sense ."
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"Thank you so much for posting solid evidence why more honest people must own weapons for self defense Galileo ."
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"But if you had read carefully the information that I provided you would realize : The people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime and are probably doing more to cause the problem than to solve it ."
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37,274 | 9,776 |
"Thank you so much for posting solid evidence why more honest people must own weapons for self defense Galileo ."
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"But if you had read carefully the information that I provided you would realize : The people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime and are probably doing more to cause the problem than to solve it . So throwing more guns at the problem does n't seem to make much sense ."
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"Thank you so much for posting solid evidence why more honest people must own weapons for self defense Galileo ."
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"The people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime and are probably doing more to cause the problem than to solve it"
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37,271 | 9,776 |
"Thank you so much for posting solid evidence why more honest people must own weapons for self defense Galileo ."
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"But if you had read carefully the information that I provided you would realize : The people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime and are probably doing more to cause the problem than to solve it . So throwing more guns at the problem does n't seem to make much sense ."
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"solid evidence why more honest people must own"
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"I provided you would realize people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime"
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37,272 | 9,776 |
"Thank you so much for posting solid evidence why more honest people must own weapons for self defense Galileo ."
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"But if you had read carefully the information that I provided you would realize : The people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime and are probably doing more to cause the problem than to solve it . So throwing more guns at the problem does n't seem to make much sense ."
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"evidence why more honest people must own weapons for self defense Galileo ."
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"The people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime and are probably doing more to cause the problem than to solve it ."
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37,275 | 9,776 |
"Thank you so much for posting solid evidence why more honest people must own weapons for self defense Galileo ."
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"But if you had read carefully the information that I provided you would realize : The people that already own weapons do n't seem to be doing much to combat crime and are probably doing more to cause the problem than to solve it . So throwing more guns at the problem does n't seem to make much sense ."
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"honest people must own weapons for self defense"
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"throwing more guns at the problem does n't seem to make much sense ."
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37,276 | 9,777 |
"Most of the laws of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia are aimed at rendering the citizens into prey . You ca n't point to many that do n't . Self defense is not allowed there I am afraid ."
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"Hey Sarge , add Democratic on their , and it could be called the DPRK ; its kinda going that way anyhow.People start calling it that now , they will fall in line faster ."
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"Most of the laws of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia are aimed at rendering the citizens into prey ."
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"add Democratic on their , and it could be called the DPRK ; its kinda going that way ."
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37,279 | 9,777 |
"Most of the laws of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia are aimed at rendering the citizens into prey . You ca n't point to many that do n't . Self defense is not allowed there I am afraid ."
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"Hey Sarge , add Democratic on their , and it could be called the DPRK ; its kinda going that way anyhow.People start calling it that now , they will fall in line faster ."
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"Peoples Republic of Kalifornia"
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"DPRK"
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37,280 | 9,777 |
"Most of the laws of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia are aimed at rendering the citizens into prey . You ca n't point to many that do n't . Self defense is not allowed there I am afraid ."
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"Hey Sarge , add Democratic on their , and it could be called the DPRK ; its kinda going that way anyhow.People start calling it that now , they will fall in line faster ."
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"Most of the laws of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia are aimed at rendering the citizens into prey . You ca n't point to many that do n't ."
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"Hey Sarge , add Democratic on their , and it could be called the DPRK"
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37,277 | 9,777 |
"Most of the laws of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia are aimed at rendering the citizens into prey . You ca n't point to many that do n't . Self defense is not allowed there I am afraid ."
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"Hey Sarge , add Democratic on their , and it could be called the DPRK ; its kinda going that way anyhow.People start calling it that now , they will fall in line faster ."
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"Most of the laws of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia are aimed at rendering the citizens into prey"
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"add Democratic on their , and it could be called the DPRK ; its kinda going that way anyhow.People start calling it that now , they will fall in line faster ."
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