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"I did n't miss the part where the doctor stated that the woman 's health `` could `` be in danger . I also did n't miss the part where they would have to wait until the children were developed into late stages before deciding which ones to kill . In this case , the parents went to such extremes so as to become pregnant that they expose themselves as callously toying with lives to accomodate their own plans , then whining pre-emptively lest someone challenge their attempt at godhood . Conservatives do not want to select who dies for convenience sake . Only liberals would actually protest and make demands for the so called `` right `` to kill their babies ."
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"So you would have the mother , all four fetus 's die instead . Well , just so long as your conscience is clear ."
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"I did n't miss the part where the doctor stated that the woman 's health `` could `` be in danger"
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"Well , just so long as your conscience is"
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2,584 | 688 |
"I did n't miss the part where the doctor stated that the woman 's health `` could `` be in danger . I also did n't miss the part where they would have to wait until the children were developed into late stages before deciding which ones to kill . In this case , the parents went to such extremes so as to become pregnant that they expose themselves as callously toying with lives to accomodate their own plans , then whining pre-emptively lest someone challenge their attempt at godhood . Conservatives do not want to select who dies for convenience sake . Only liberals would actually protest and make demands for the so called `` right `` to kill their babies ."
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"So you would have the mother , all four fetus 's die instead . Well , just so long as your conscience is clear ."
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"Only liberals would actually protest and make demands for the so called `` right `` to kill their babies ."
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"So you would have the mother , all four fetus 's die instead . Well , just so long as your conscience is clear ."
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2,589 | 689 |
"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"So you refuse to engage in an informal debate on the topic , but you all of a sudden are itchin ' for a formal debate ? How about you make the challenge ?"
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"put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum"
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"you refuse to engage in an informal debate on the topic , How about you make the challenge ?"
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2,588 | 689 |
"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"So you refuse to engage in an informal debate on the topic , but you all of a sudden are itchin ' for a formal debate ? How about you make the challenge ?"
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"So you refuse to engage in an informal debate on the topic , but you all of a sudden are itchin ' for a formal debate ?"
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2,587 | 689 |
"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"So you refuse to engage in an informal debate on the topic , but you all of a sudden are itchin ' for a formal debate ? How about you make the challenge ?"
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"How about you make the challenge ?"
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2,592 | 690 |
"We did n't discover it , we invented it . The Greeks firstly IIRC . Guess what , they were n't Christians ."
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"Your statment is like saying we evented 2+2= 4 . We did not envent it , it aways existed . Same with logic , its a concept that exists apart from the meterial universe . But in the atheists worldview , only the meterial universe exists ."
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"We did n't discover it , we invented it ."
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"Your statment is like saying we evented 2+2= 4 ."
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2,590 | 690 |
"We did n't discover it , we invented it . The Greeks firstly IIRC . Guess what , they were n't Christians ."
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"Your statment is like saying we evented 2+2= 4 . We did not envent it , it aways existed . Same with logic , its a concept that exists apart from the meterial universe . But in the atheists worldview , only the meterial universe exists ."
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"We did n't discover it , we invented it ."
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"Same with logic , its a concept that exists apart from the meterial universe ."
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2,595 | 691 |
"False alarm : General Misunderstanding is still calling the shots ! There 's no such thing as 'Natural and undirected ' . Drop a rock and tell me how 'undirected ' the results are for you ."
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"Tell me who directed it ."
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"There 's no such thing as 'Natural and undirected ' . Drop a rock and tell me how 'undirected ' the results are for you ."
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"Tell me who directed it ."
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2,600 | 693 |
". This is the most obscene , disgusting and down right vilest thing i have ever had the misfortune to come across.Do you watch the news or read the papers , because it was all over the national news and the papers so much in fact that the goverment set up an inquiry , and a commitee to deal with it . To say my sons body was salvage is bang out of order and i would thank you to think about the effect that your uncaring words have on people . How long have been on this board , because it is all over the place that fishx { my wife } is staunchly pro life and it would of been more helpful for your case than asking such a stupid question as to ask if she had had an abortion . You live in good old blighty and yet claim no knowledge of what was going on do you not remember alder hey childrens hospital.The system you are discussing is the same system that you live under , it was hope hospital in salford that took my babys body and never returned it ."
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"It was in the news for a while and I 'm pretty sure the inquiry found that it was a terrible misfortune based on miscommunication between the hospital and the parents . There was no selling of stolen dead babies for profit type of business going on with is what Fishx implies with the first post . Sorry , did n't mean to offend there but I still think its better than another baby has a chance to live than pretty much anything with respect to the desceased . If it happened to me I would have no problem at all about any of my organs being used to save lives , either directly or indirectly through training of more doctors or research . Yet , I still respect your wishes and said before that if this is going to happen it should certainly be cleared with the parents first . You 're just going to have to accept my appologies and realise that I have no idea what you went through , having not been there myself . Being in an abortion forum , and the nature of the first post it seemed very quite possible that Fishx had had an abortion , though regretted it and wanted the remains to bury - this is a very different case than the one you have unfortunately experienced , hence the question ."
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"This is the most obscene , disgusting and down right vilest thing i have ever had the misfortune to come"
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"It was in the news for a while and I 'm pretty sure the inquiry found that it was a terrible misfortune based on miscommunication between the hospital and the parents ."
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2,599 | 693 |
". This is the most obscene , disgusting and down right vilest thing i have ever had the misfortune to come across.Do you watch the news or read the papers , because it was all over the national news and the papers so much in fact that the goverment set up an inquiry , and a commitee to deal with it . To say my sons body was salvage is bang out of order and i would thank you to think about the effect that your uncaring words have on people . How long have been on this board , because it is all over the place that fishx { my wife } is staunchly pro life and it would of been more helpful for your case than asking such a stupid question as to ask if she had had an abortion . You live in good old blighty and yet claim no knowledge of what was going on do you not remember alder hey childrens hospital.The system you are discussing is the same system that you live under , it was hope hospital in salford that took my babys body and never returned it ."
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"It was in the news for a while and I 'm pretty sure the inquiry found that it was a terrible misfortune based on miscommunication between the hospital and the parents . There was no selling of stolen dead babies for profit type of business going on with is what Fishx implies with the first post . Sorry , did n't mean to offend there but I still think its better than another baby has a chance to live than pretty much anything with respect to the desceased . If it happened to me I would have no problem at all about any of my organs being used to save lives , either directly or indirectly through training of more doctors or research . Yet , I still respect your wishes and said before that if this is going to happen it should certainly be cleared with the parents first . You 're just going to have to accept my appologies and realise that I have no idea what you went through , having not been there myself . Being in an abortion forum , and the nature of the first post it seemed very quite possible that Fishx had had an abortion , though regretted it and wanted the remains to bury - this is a very different case than the one you have unfortunately experienced , hence the question ."
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"my wife is staunchly pro life and it would of been more helpful for your case"
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"Being in an abortion forum , and the nature of the first post it seemed very quite possible that Fishx had had an abortion , though regretted it and wanted the remains to bury -"
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2,601 | 693 |
". This is the most obscene , disgusting and down right vilest thing i have ever had the misfortune to come across.Do you watch the news or read the papers , because it was all over the national news and the papers so much in fact that the goverment set up an inquiry , and a commitee to deal with it . To say my sons body was salvage is bang out of order and i would thank you to think about the effect that your uncaring words have on people . How long have been on this board , because it is all over the place that fishx { my wife } is staunchly pro life and it would of been more helpful for your case than asking such a stupid question as to ask if she had had an abortion . You live in good old blighty and yet claim no knowledge of what was going on do you not remember alder hey childrens hospital.The system you are discussing is the same system that you live under , it was hope hospital in salford that took my babys body and never returned it ."
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"It was in the news for a while and I 'm pretty sure the inquiry found that it was a terrible misfortune based on miscommunication between the hospital and the parents . There was no selling of stolen dead babies for profit type of business going on with is what Fishx implies with the first post . Sorry , did n't mean to offend there but I still think its better than another baby has a chance to live than pretty much anything with respect to the desceased . If it happened to me I would have no problem at all about any of my organs being used to save lives , either directly or indirectly through training of more doctors or research . Yet , I still respect your wishes and said before that if this is going to happen it should certainly be cleared with the parents first . You 're just going to have to accept my appologies and realise that I have no idea what you went through , having not been there myself . Being in an abortion forum , and the nature of the first post it seemed very quite possible that Fishx had had an abortion , though regretted it and wanted the remains to bury - this is a very different case than the one you have unfortunately experienced , hence the question ."
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"you watch the news or read the papers , because it was all over the national news and the papers so much in fact that the goverment set up an inquiry , and a commitee to deal with it ."
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"It was in the news for a while and I 'm pretty sure the inquiry found that it was a terrible misfortune based on miscommunication between the hospital and the parents ."
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2,607 | 694 |
"I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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"In your first post . If you are to qualify that by stating I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life over the ontogeny of an individual then of course reproduction is not essential character of life ."
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"reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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"reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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2,602 | 694 |
"I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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"In your first post . If you are to qualify that by stating I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life over the ontogeny of an individual then of course reproduction is not essential character of life ."
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"I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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"I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life over the ontogeny of an individual then of course reproduction is not essential character of life ."
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2,604 | 694 |
"I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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"In your first post . If you are to qualify that by stating I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life over the ontogeny of an individual then of course reproduction is not essential character of life ."
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"I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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"If you are to qualify that by stating I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life over the ontogeny of an individual then of course reproduction is not essential character of life ."
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2,603 | 694 |
"I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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"In your first post . If you are to qualify that by stating I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life over the ontogeny of an individual then of course reproduction is not essential character of life ."
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"I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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"I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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2,606 | 694 |
"I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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"In your first post . If you are to qualify that by stating I assert that reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life over the ontogeny of an individual then of course reproduction is not essential character of life ."
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"reproduction absolute requirement of life"
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"reproduction is not an absolute requirement of life"
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2,611 | 695 |
"That 's actually slightly unfair . There are many XXXXXX ...."
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"Not heard that before ! made me laugh almost as much as your lettuce eating Tyrannosaur"
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"That 's actually slightly unfair . There are many XXXXXX ...."
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"Not heard that before ! made me laugh almost as much as your lettuce eating Tyrannosaur"
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2,610 | 695 |
"That 's actually slightly unfair . There are many XXXXXX ...."
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"Not heard that before ! made me laugh almost as much as your lettuce eating Tyrannosaur"
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"That 's actually slightly unfair . There are many XXXXXX ...."
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"Not heard that before ! made me laugh almost as much as your lettuce eating Tyrannosaur"
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2,612 | 695 |
"That 's actually slightly unfair . There are many XXXXXX ...."
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"Not heard that before ! made me laugh almost as much as your lettuce eating Tyrannosaur"
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"That 's actually slightly unfair . There are many XXXXXX"
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"Not heard that before ! made me laugh almost as much as your lettuce"
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2,609 | 695 |
"That 's actually slightly unfair . There are many XXXXXX ...."
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"Not heard that before ! made me laugh almost as much as your lettuce eating Tyrannosaur"
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"There are many XXXXXX"
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"made me laugh"
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2,613 | 695 |
"That 's actually slightly unfair . There are many XXXXXX ...."
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"Not heard that before ! made me laugh almost as much as your lettuce eating Tyrannosaur"
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"That 's actually slightly unfair . There are many XXXXXX"
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"Not heard that before"
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2,608 | 695 |
"That 's actually slightly unfair . There are many XXXXXX ...."
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"Not heard that before ! made me laugh almost as much as your lettuce eating Tyrannosaur"
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"actually slightly unfair There are many"
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"made me laugh lettuce eating Tyrannosaur"
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2,614 | 696 |
"Why is it ok for your side to determine what is right for society but when I offer my vote/opinion , I am imposing something evil on you ?"
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"Let me explain this to you . You want to stop abortions for someone else . You want to take a womans right to choose away . Where as Jito supporting a womans right to choose does not impose upon your life in any way . You want to stop me from being able to marry this does not effect your life in any way yet has a devastationg effect on my life . The left supports rights while your side want to limit the rights of others . You want to stop me from being able to marry because you have a religious belief against it even though I may have a religious belief that supports it . Therefore you are imposing your religious and moral views on me when I do not share those beliefs ."
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"Why is it ok for your side to determine what is right for society but when I offer my vote/opinion , I am imposing something evil on you ?"
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"I do not share those beliefs ."
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2,618 | 696 |
"Why is it ok for your side to determine what is right for society but when I offer my vote/opinion , I am imposing something evil on you ?"
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"Let me explain this to you . You want to stop abortions for someone else . You want to take a womans right to choose away . Where as Jito supporting a womans right to choose does not impose upon your life in any way . You want to stop me from being able to marry this does not effect your life in any way yet has a devastationg effect on my life . The left supports rights while your side want to limit the rights of others . You want to stop me from being able to marry because you have a religious belief against it even though I may have a religious belief that supports it . Therefore you are imposing your religious and moral views on me when I do not share those beliefs ."
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"Why is it ok for your side to determine what is right for society"
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"You want to take a womans right to choose away . Where as Jito supporting a womans"
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2,615 | 696 |
"Why is it ok for your side to determine what is right for society but when I offer my vote/opinion , I am imposing something evil on you ?"
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"Let me explain this to you . You want to stop abortions for someone else . You want to take a womans right to choose away . Where as Jito supporting a womans right to choose does not impose upon your life in any way . You want to stop me from being able to marry this does not effect your life in any way yet has a devastationg effect on my life . The left supports rights while your side want to limit the rights of others . You want to stop me from being able to marry because you have a religious belief against it even though I may have a religious belief that supports it . Therefore you are imposing your religious and moral views on me when I do not share those beliefs ."
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"Why is it ok for your side to determine what is right for society but when I offer my vote/opinion , I am imposing something evil on you ?"
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"Let me explain this to you . You want to stop abortions for someone else . You want to take a womans right to choose away ."
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2,617 | 696 |
"Why is it ok for your side to determine what is right for society but when I offer my vote/opinion , I am imposing something evil on you ?"
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"Let me explain this to you . You want to stop abortions for someone else . You want to take a womans right to choose away . Where as Jito supporting a womans right to choose does not impose upon your life in any way . You want to stop me from being able to marry this does not effect your life in any way yet has a devastationg effect on my life . The left supports rights while your side want to limit the rights of others . You want to stop me from being able to marry because you have a religious belief against it even though I may have a religious belief that supports it . Therefore you are imposing your religious and moral views on me when I do not share those beliefs ."
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"Why is it ok for your side to determine what is right for society but when I offer my vote/opinion"
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"You want to stop abortions for someone else . You want to take a womans right to choose away ."
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2,621 | 697 |
"Science could clear that question up with a little carbon 14 test to rule out recent exsitence :"
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"This why we think you 're a liar . http : //www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dino ... teocalcin.html"
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"Science could clear that question up with a little carbon 14 test to rule out recent exsitence"
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"This why we think you 're a liar ."
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2,625 | 697 |
"Science could clear that question up with a little carbon 14 test to rule out recent exsitence :"
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"This why we think you 're a liar . http : //www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dino ... teocalcin.html"
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"Science could clear that question up carbon 14 test"
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"we think you 're a liar"
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2,620 | 697 |
"Science could clear that question up with a little carbon 14 test to rule out recent exsitence :"
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"This why we think you 're a liar . http : //www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dino ... teocalcin.html"
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"Science could clear that question up with a little carbon 14 test to rule out recent exsitence :"
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"This why we think you 're a liar . http : //www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dino ... teocalcin.html"
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2,623 | 697 |
"Science could clear that question up with a little carbon 14 test to rule out recent exsitence :"
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"This why we think you 're a liar . http : //www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dino ... teocalcin.html"
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"Science could clear that question up with a little carbon 14 test to rule out recent exsitence :"
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"This why we think you 're a liar"
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2,622 | 697 |
"Science could clear that question up with a little carbon 14 test to rule out recent exsitence :"
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"This why we think you 're a liar . http : //www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dino ... teocalcin.html"
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"Science could clear that question up with a little carbon 14 test"
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"This why we think you 're a liar ."
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2,631 | 698 |
"I do n't think those blanket statements necessarily apply . You have to realize that there is something behind the proclamations of that sort of morality ; human life is sacred is n't just a proclamation , it 's a philosophy . The case could just as easily be made that pro-choicers are basing their morality on a proclamation as well , that `` reason is the basis for morality `` . Even if you call either a case of proclamation , it 's the philosophy behind it that serves as the basis for the morality , not statement itself ."
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"What are the reasons which you would present behind the statement `` all human life is sacred `` ( or whichever similar statement you think is the core of your pro-life stance ) ? If morality is based only on arbitrary proclamations , then there is little chance of consensus because other groups or religions come up with other arbitrary set of rules and we are back to the situation of , in the worst case , chaos and , in the best case , a majority imposing arbitrary rules on an unwilling suffering minority . I suspect that a lot of people , if not most people , at least partially follow some version of `` treat others as you would have yourself be treated `` . When , as children , we were scolded `` How would you like it if ... `` that is a tactic of teaching this rule . For those who are religious ( which I only marginally , occasionally and hesitatingly am ) , even Jesus stated `` Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. `` in the Sermon on the Mount talk ( as quoted by ShadowPikachu ) . Many world religions and philosophies seem to incorporate that general rule , which is partly why I think it has a reasonable chance at being incorporated as a global base of morality ."
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"I do n't think those blanket statements necessarily apply ."
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"you . Do to others whatever you would like them to do to"
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2,630 | 698 |
"I do n't think those blanket statements necessarily apply . You have to realize that there is something behind the proclamations of that sort of morality ; human life is sacred is n't just a proclamation , it 's a philosophy . The case could just as easily be made that pro-choicers are basing their morality on a proclamation as well , that `` reason is the basis for morality `` . Even if you call either a case of proclamation , it 's the philosophy behind it that serves as the basis for the morality , not statement itself ."
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"What are the reasons which you would present behind the statement `` all human life is sacred `` ( or whichever similar statement you think is the core of your pro-life stance ) ? If morality is based only on arbitrary proclamations , then there is little chance of consensus because other groups or religions come up with other arbitrary set of rules and we are back to the situation of , in the worst case , chaos and , in the best case , a majority imposing arbitrary rules on an unwilling suffering minority . I suspect that a lot of people , if not most people , at least partially follow some version of `` treat others as you would have yourself be treated `` . When , as children , we were scolded `` How would you like it if ... `` that is a tactic of teaching this rule . For those who are religious ( which I only marginally , occasionally and hesitatingly am ) , even Jesus stated `` Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. `` in the Sermon on the Mount talk ( as quoted by ShadowPikachu ) . Many world religions and philosophies seem to incorporate that general rule , which is partly why I think it has a reasonable chance at being incorporated as a global base of morality ."
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"You have to realize that there is something behind the proclamations"
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"If morality is based only on arbitrary proclamations"
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2,629 | 698 |
"I do n't think those blanket statements necessarily apply . You have to realize that there is something behind the proclamations of that sort of morality ; human life is sacred is n't just a proclamation , it 's a philosophy . The case could just as easily be made that pro-choicers are basing their morality on a proclamation as well , that `` reason is the basis for morality `` . Even if you call either a case of proclamation , it 's the philosophy behind it that serves as the basis for the morality , not statement itself ."
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"What are the reasons which you would present behind the statement `` all human life is sacred `` ( or whichever similar statement you think is the core of your pro-life stance ) ? If morality is based only on arbitrary proclamations , then there is little chance of consensus because other groups or religions come up with other arbitrary set of rules and we are back to the situation of , in the worst case , chaos and , in the best case , a majority imposing arbitrary rules on an unwilling suffering minority . I suspect that a lot of people , if not most people , at least partially follow some version of `` treat others as you would have yourself be treated `` . When , as children , we were scolded `` How would you like it if ... `` that is a tactic of teaching this rule . For those who are religious ( which I only marginally , occasionally and hesitatingly am ) , even Jesus stated `` Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. `` in the Sermon on the Mount talk ( as quoted by ShadowPikachu ) . Many world religions and philosophies seem to incorporate that general rule , which is partly why I think it has a reasonable chance at being incorporated as a global base of morality ."
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"I do n't think those blanket statements necessarily apply . You have to realize that there is something behind the proclamations of that sort of morality"
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"If morality is based only on arbitrary proclamations , then there is little chance of consensus because other groups or religions come up with other arbitrary set of rules"
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2,627 | 698 |
"I do n't think those blanket statements necessarily apply . You have to realize that there is something behind the proclamations of that sort of morality ; human life is sacred is n't just a proclamation , it 's a philosophy . The case could just as easily be made that pro-choicers are basing their morality on a proclamation as well , that `` reason is the basis for morality `` . Even if you call either a case of proclamation , it 's the philosophy behind it that serves as the basis for the morality , not statement itself ."
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"What are the reasons which you would present behind the statement `` all human life is sacred `` ( or whichever similar statement you think is the core of your pro-life stance ) ? If morality is based only on arbitrary proclamations , then there is little chance of consensus because other groups or religions come up with other arbitrary set of rules and we are back to the situation of , in the worst case , chaos and , in the best case , a majority imposing arbitrary rules on an unwilling suffering minority . I suspect that a lot of people , if not most people , at least partially follow some version of `` treat others as you would have yourself be treated `` . When , as children , we were scolded `` How would you like it if ... `` that is a tactic of teaching this rule . For those who are religious ( which I only marginally , occasionally and hesitatingly am ) , even Jesus stated `` Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. `` in the Sermon on the Mount talk ( as quoted by ShadowPikachu ) . Many world religions and philosophies seem to incorporate that general rule , which is partly why I think it has a reasonable chance at being incorporated as a global base of morality ."
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"The case could just as easily be made that pro-choicers are basing their morality on a proclamation as well , that `` reason is the basis for morality"
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"I suspect that a lot of people , if not most people , at least partially follow some version of `` treat others as you would have yourself be treated `` . When , as children ,"
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2,628 | 698 |
"I do n't think those blanket statements necessarily apply . You have to realize that there is something behind the proclamations of that sort of morality ; human life is sacred is n't just a proclamation , it 's a philosophy . The case could just as easily be made that pro-choicers are basing their morality on a proclamation as well , that `` reason is the basis for morality `` . Even if you call either a case of proclamation , it 's the philosophy behind it that serves as the basis for the morality , not statement itself ."
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"What are the reasons which you would present behind the statement `` all human life is sacred `` ( or whichever similar statement you think is the core of your pro-life stance ) ? If morality is based only on arbitrary proclamations , then there is little chance of consensus because other groups or religions come up with other arbitrary set of rules and we are back to the situation of , in the worst case , chaos and , in the best case , a majority imposing arbitrary rules on an unwilling suffering minority . I suspect that a lot of people , if not most people , at least partially follow some version of `` treat others as you would have yourself be treated `` . When , as children , we were scolded `` How would you like it if ... `` that is a tactic of teaching this rule . For those who are religious ( which I only marginally , occasionally and hesitatingly am ) , even Jesus stated `` Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. `` in the Sermon on the Mount talk ( as quoted by ShadowPikachu ) . Many world religions and philosophies seem to incorporate that general rule , which is partly why I think it has a reasonable chance at being incorporated as a global base of morality ."
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"human life is sacred is n't just a proclamation , it 's a philosophy ."
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"If morality is based only on arbitrary proclamations , then there is little chance of consensus because other groups or religions come up with other arbitrary set of rules and we are back to the situation of , in the worst case , chaos and , in the best case , a majority imposing arbitrary rules on an unwilling suffering minority ."
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"While the eye is a well enough example , it puzzles me that in an age in which genomes are being sequenced , we should rely so heavily on the eye in this way . Anyone looking at the human genome , or any other for that matter , will be most hard pressed to argue that this is an `` intelligently designed `` structure -- it is replete with repetitve junk , nonsensical extraneous DNA , non-coding segments that have no relation to other genes on their shared chromosome , genetic parasites , and so on and so forth . And adrift in this sea of rubbish , are scattered a few clusters of sense , coding for amino acids and regulating the process . I think Paley , had he seen the genome , would have been berfet with grief for the death of his argument . Vindex Urvogel"
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"Be wary of names . 'junk ' DNA is not rubbish ... it 's called 'junk ' because we do n't know entirely what it is used for ... But just look at all the blank spaces on this post . They are nothing , but they are keeping the words in order . Evolutionaries are putting too much faith in names of words - such as human embryonic 'gill slits' or 'transitional ' fossil"
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"nonsensical extraneous DNA , non-coding segments that have no relation to other genes on their shared chromosome"
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"Be wary of names . 'junk ' DNA is not rubbish ... it 's called 'junk ' because we do n't know entirely what it is used for"
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"While the eye is a well enough example , it puzzles me that in an age in which genomes are being sequenced , we should rely so heavily on the eye in this way . Anyone looking at the human genome , or any other for that matter , will be most hard pressed to argue that this is an `` intelligently designed `` structure -- it is replete with repetitve junk , nonsensical extraneous DNA , non-coding segments that have no relation to other genes on their shared chromosome , genetic parasites , and so on and so forth . And adrift in this sea of rubbish , are scattered a few clusters of sense , coding for amino acids and regulating the process . I think Paley , had he seen the genome , would have been berfet with grief for the death of his argument . Vindex Urvogel"
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"Be wary of names . 'junk ' DNA is not rubbish ... it 's called 'junk ' because we do n't know entirely what it is used for ... But just look at all the blank spaces on this post . They are nothing , but they are keeping the words in order . Evolutionaries are putting too much faith in names of words - such as human embryonic 'gill slits' or 'transitional ' fossil"
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"Anyone looking at the human genome , or any other for that matter"
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"They are nothing , but they are keeping the words in order ."
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"While the eye is a well enough example , it puzzles me that in an age in which genomes are being sequenced , we should rely so heavily on the eye in this way . Anyone looking at the human genome , or any other for that matter , will be most hard pressed to argue that this is an `` intelligently designed `` structure -- it is replete with repetitve junk , nonsensical extraneous DNA , non-coding segments that have no relation to other genes on their shared chromosome , genetic parasites , and so on and so forth . And adrift in this sea of rubbish , are scattered a few clusters of sense , coding for amino acids and regulating the process . I think Paley , had he seen the genome , would have been berfet with grief for the death of his argument . Vindex Urvogel"
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"Be wary of names . 'junk ' DNA is not rubbish ... it 's called 'junk ' because we do n't know entirely what it is used for ... But just look at all the blank spaces on this post . They are nothing , but they are keeping the words in order . Evolutionaries are putting too much faith in names of words - such as human embryonic 'gill slits' or 'transitional ' fossil"
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"eye is a well enough example genomes are being sequenced"
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"DNA is not rubbish look at all the blank spaces"
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"While the eye is a well enough example , it puzzles me that in an age in which genomes are being sequenced , we should rely so heavily on the eye in this way . Anyone looking at the human genome , or any other for that matter , will be most hard pressed to argue that this is an `` intelligently designed `` structure -- it is replete with repetitve junk , nonsensical extraneous DNA , non-coding segments that have no relation to other genes on their shared chromosome , genetic parasites , and so on and so forth . And adrift in this sea of rubbish , are scattered a few clusters of sense , coding for amino acids and regulating the process . I think Paley , had he seen the genome , would have been berfet with grief for the death of his argument . Vindex Urvogel"
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"Be wary of names . 'junk ' DNA is not rubbish ... it 's called 'junk ' because we do n't know entirely what it is used for ... But just look at all the blank spaces on this post . They are nothing , but they are keeping the words in order . Evolutionaries are putting too much faith in names of words - such as human embryonic 'gill slits' or 'transitional ' fossil"
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"While the eye is a well enough example , it puzzles me that in an age in which genomes are being sequenced , we should rely so heavily on the eye in this way"
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"Be wary of names . 'junk ' DNA is not rubbish"
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2,632 | 699 |
"While the eye is a well enough example , it puzzles me that in an age in which genomes are being sequenced , we should rely so heavily on the eye in this way . Anyone looking at the human genome , or any other for that matter , will be most hard pressed to argue that this is an `` intelligently designed `` structure -- it is replete with repetitve junk , nonsensical extraneous DNA , non-coding segments that have no relation to other genes on their shared chromosome , genetic parasites , and so on and so forth . And adrift in this sea of rubbish , are scattered a few clusters of sense , coding for amino acids and regulating the process . I think Paley , had he seen the genome , would have been berfet with grief for the death of his argument . Vindex Urvogel"
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"Be wary of names . 'junk ' DNA is not rubbish ... it 's called 'junk ' because we do n't know entirely what it is used for ... But just look at all the blank spaces on this post . They are nothing , but they are keeping the words in order . Evolutionaries are putting too much faith in names of words - such as human embryonic 'gill slits' or 'transitional ' fossil"
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"Anyone looking at the human genome , or any other for that matter , will be most hard pressed to argue that this is an `` intelligently designed `` structure"
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"Be wary of names . 'junk ' DNA is not rubbish ... it 's called 'junk ' because we do n't know entirely what it is used for"
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2,635 | 699 |
"While the eye is a well enough example , it puzzles me that in an age in which genomes are being sequenced , we should rely so heavily on the eye in this way . Anyone looking at the human genome , or any other for that matter , will be most hard pressed to argue that this is an `` intelligently designed `` structure -- it is replete with repetitve junk , nonsensical extraneous DNA , non-coding segments that have no relation to other genes on their shared chromosome , genetic parasites , and so on and so forth . And adrift in this sea of rubbish , are scattered a few clusters of sense , coding for amino acids and regulating the process . I think Paley , had he seen the genome , would have been berfet with grief for the death of his argument . Vindex Urvogel"
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"Be wary of names . 'junk ' DNA is not rubbish ... it 's called 'junk ' because we do n't know entirely what it is used for ... But just look at all the blank spaces on this post . They are nothing , but they are keeping the words in order . Evolutionaries are putting too much faith in names of words - such as human embryonic 'gill slits' or 'transitional ' fossil"
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"While the eye is a well enough example ,"
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"Be wary of names . 'junk ' DNA is not rubbish"
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"Can anyone make a rational argument as to why executing a criminal who was 18 years old when committing the crime is not `` cruel and unusual punishment , `` but executing a criminal who was less than 18 at the time of the crime would be cruel and unusual ? Put another way , can anyone explain why it is constitutional to execute a person who was 18 years old when they committed the crime , but it is unconstitutional to execute a person who was under 18 when they committed the crime ? Participants in this discussion should assume that the death penalty , in general , is constitutional . This has been the case from the beginning of our Republic , and has been reaffirmed multiple times . In other words , it is not an appropriate argument to try and argue that the death penalty , in general , is unconstitutional . That has neither been the case through our history , and is not the current state of the law . * Note : I am speaking within the context of the United States , and its Constitution ."
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"I think that we 've got to draw a line at some point , to demarcate between adult and child . Where ever we do draw it , it will seem , in some situations to be arbitrary . If we made it 20 , the question would be why 20 year olds and not 19 . Through the years society has determined that by 18 people should have attained enough life experience to form intent and to comprehend that their actions have consequences ( at least as it applies to the death penalty , they can be tried as adults w/o death ) . We do n't execute people who ca n't comprehend the nature of their crimes and society says that , under 18 you ca n't fully comprehend criminal actions ."
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"executing a criminal who was less than 18 at the time of the crime would be cruel and unusual ?"
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"Through the years society has determined that by 18 people should have attained enough life"
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"Can anyone make a rational argument as to why executing a criminal who was 18 years old when committing the crime is not `` cruel and unusual punishment , `` but executing a criminal who was less than 18 at the time of the crime would be cruel and unusual ? Put another way , can anyone explain why it is constitutional to execute a person who was 18 years old when they committed the crime , but it is unconstitutional to execute a person who was under 18 when they committed the crime ? Participants in this discussion should assume that the death penalty , in general , is constitutional . This has been the case from the beginning of our Republic , and has been reaffirmed multiple times . In other words , it is not an appropriate argument to try and argue that the death penalty , in general , is unconstitutional . That has neither been the case through our history , and is not the current state of the law . * Note : I am speaking within the context of the United States , and its Constitution ."
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"I think that we 've got to draw a line at some point , to demarcate between adult and child . Where ever we do draw it , it will seem , in some situations to be arbitrary . If we made it 20 , the question would be why 20 year olds and not 19 . Through the years society has determined that by 18 people should have attained enough life experience to form intent and to comprehend that their actions have consequences ( at least as it applies to the death penalty , they can be tried as adults w/o death ) . We do n't execute people who ca n't comprehend the nature of their crimes and society says that , under 18 you ca n't fully comprehend criminal actions ."
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"Can anyone make a rational argument as to why executing a criminal who was 18 years old when committing the crime is not ``"
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"think that we 've got to draw a line at some point ,"
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"Can anyone make a rational argument as to why executing a criminal who was 18 years old when committing the crime is not `` cruel and unusual punishment , `` but executing a criminal who was less than 18 at the time of the crime would be cruel and unusual ? Put another way , can anyone explain why it is constitutional to execute a person who was 18 years old when they committed the crime , but it is unconstitutional to execute a person who was under 18 when they committed the crime ? Participants in this discussion should assume that the death penalty , in general , is constitutional . This has been the case from the beginning of our Republic , and has been reaffirmed multiple times . In other words , it is not an appropriate argument to try and argue that the death penalty , in general , is unconstitutional . That has neither been the case through our history , and is not the current state of the law . * Note : I am speaking within the context of the United States , and its Constitution ."
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"I think that we 've got to draw a line at some point , to demarcate between adult and child . Where ever we do draw it , it will seem , in some situations to be arbitrary . If we made it 20 , the question would be why 20 year olds and not 19 . Through the years society has determined that by 18 people should have attained enough life experience to form intent and to comprehend that their actions have consequences ( at least as it applies to the death penalty , they can be tried as adults w/o death ) . We do n't execute people who ca n't comprehend the nature of their crimes and society says that , under 18 you ca n't fully comprehend criminal actions ."
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"rational argument executing a criminal constitutional"
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"draw a line at some point arbitrary tried as adults w/o death"
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"Can anyone make a rational argument as to why executing a criminal who was 18 years old when committing the crime is not `` cruel and unusual punishment , `` but executing a criminal who was less than 18 at the time of the crime would be cruel and unusual ? Put another way , can anyone explain why it is constitutional to execute a person who was 18 years old when they committed the crime , but it is unconstitutional to execute a person who was under 18 when they committed the crime ? Participants in this discussion should assume that the death penalty , in general , is constitutional . This has been the case from the beginning of our Republic , and has been reaffirmed multiple times . In other words , it is not an appropriate argument to try and argue that the death penalty , in general , is unconstitutional . That has neither been the case through our history , and is not the current state of the law . * Note : I am speaking within the context of the United States , and its Constitution ."
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"I think that we 've got to draw a line at some point , to demarcate between adult and child . Where ever we do draw it , it will seem , in some situations to be arbitrary . If we made it 20 , the question would be why 20 year olds and not 19 . Through the years society has determined that by 18 people should have attained enough life experience to form intent and to comprehend that their actions have consequences ( at least as it applies to the death penalty , they can be tried as adults w/o death ) . We do n't execute people who ca n't comprehend the nature of their crimes and society says that , under 18 you ca n't fully comprehend criminal actions ."
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"executing a criminal who was less than 18 at the time of the crime would be cruel and unusual ?"
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"Through the years society has determined that by 18 people should have attained enough life experience to form intent and to comprehend that their actions have consequences"
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"Can anyone make a rational argument as to why executing a criminal who was 18 years old when committing the crime is not `` cruel and unusual punishment , `` but executing a criminal who was less than 18 at the time of the crime would be cruel and unusual ? Put another way , can anyone explain why it is constitutional to execute a person who was 18 years old when they committed the crime , but it is unconstitutional to execute a person who was under 18 when they committed the crime ? Participants in this discussion should assume that the death penalty , in general , is constitutional . This has been the case from the beginning of our Republic , and has been reaffirmed multiple times . In other words , it is not an appropriate argument to try and argue that the death penalty , in general , is unconstitutional . That has neither been the case through our history , and is not the current state of the law . * Note : I am speaking within the context of the United States , and its Constitution ."
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"I think that we 've got to draw a line at some point , to demarcate between adult and child . Where ever we do draw it , it will seem , in some situations to be arbitrary . If we made it 20 , the question would be why 20 year olds and not 19 . Through the years society has determined that by 18 people should have attained enough life experience to form intent and to comprehend that their actions have consequences ( at least as it applies to the death penalty , they can be tried as adults w/o death ) . We do n't execute people who ca n't comprehend the nature of their crimes and society says that , under 18 you ca n't fully comprehend criminal actions ."
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"Participants in this discussion should assume that the death penalty , in general , is constitutional ."
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"We do n't execute people who ca n't comprehend the nature of their crimes and society says that , under 18 you ca n't fully comprehend criminal actions"
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"My moral compass does not care if genesis is literally true or not . Can anyone explain why it should ?"
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"Well , if Genesis was in fact true , then we would have to assume that God is real and the Bible more or less explains what he wants , right ? And if there is someone `` up there `` who will damn you to eternal torment if you do n't do what he wants ( which is one interpretation of the Bible ) than that might effect the way you act . I realize that that is n't exactly the same as changing your moral compass , but history has demonstrated that most people 's moral will stretch to accomodate pressing needs , and I think an actual vengeful diety would qualify ."
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"My moral compass does not care if genesis is literally true or not ."
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"and I think an actual vengeful diety would qualify"
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"My moral compass does not care if genesis is literally true or not . Can anyone explain why it should ?"
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"Well , if Genesis was in fact true , then we would have to assume that God is real and the Bible more or less explains what he wants , right ? And if there is someone `` up there `` who will damn you to eternal torment if you do n't do what he wants ( which is one interpretation of the Bible ) than that might effect the way you act . I realize that that is n't exactly the same as changing your moral compass , but history has demonstrated that most people 's moral will stretch to accomodate pressing needs , and I think an actual vengeful diety would qualify ."
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"My moral compass does not care if genesis is literally true or not"
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"the same as changing your moral compass , most people 's moral will stretch to accomodate pressing needs ,"
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2,645 | 701 |
"My moral compass does not care if genesis is literally true or not . Can anyone explain why it should ?"
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"Well , if Genesis was in fact true , then we would have to assume that God is real and the Bible more or less explains what he wants , right ? And if there is someone `` up there `` who will damn you to eternal torment if you do n't do what he wants ( which is one interpretation of the Bible ) than that might effect the way you act . I realize that that is n't exactly the same as changing your moral compass , but history has demonstrated that most people 's moral will stretch to accomodate pressing needs , and I think an actual vengeful diety would qualify ."
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"My moral compass does not care if genesis is literally true or not"
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"I realize that that is n't exactly the same as changing your moral compass , but history has demonstrated that most people 's moral will stretch to accomodate pressing needs , and I think an actual vengeful diety would qualify ."
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"My moral compass does not care if genesis is literally true or not . Can anyone explain why it should ?"
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"Well , if Genesis was in fact true , then we would have to assume that God is real and the Bible more or less explains what he wants , right ? And if there is someone `` up there `` who will damn you to eternal torment if you do n't do what he wants ( which is one interpretation of the Bible ) than that might effect the way you act . I realize that that is n't exactly the same as changing your moral compass , but history has demonstrated that most people 's moral will stretch to accomodate pressing needs , and I think an actual vengeful diety would qualify ."
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"My moral compass does not care if genesis is literally true or not"
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"if Genesis was in fact true , then we would have to assume that God is real"
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2,649 | 701 |
"My moral compass does not care if genesis is literally true or not . Can anyone explain why it should ?"
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"Well , if Genesis was in fact true , then we would have to assume that God is real and the Bible more or less explains what he wants , right ? And if there is someone `` up there `` who will damn you to eternal torment if you do n't do what he wants ( which is one interpretation of the Bible ) than that might effect the way you act . I realize that that is n't exactly the same as changing your moral compass , but history has demonstrated that most people 's moral will stretch to accomodate pressing needs , and I think an actual vengeful diety would qualify ."
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"My moral compass does not care if genesis is literally true or not ."
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"Well , if Genesis was in fact true , then we would have to assume that God is real and the Bible more or less explains what he wants"
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2,653 | 702 |
"Hello everyone , I am a high school student seeking help . Me and my partner are about to enter a debate on firearms , and we already know that we are for guns . Can you all just tell me if you are for guns or not and a short reason why ? Thank you ."
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"Well , to keep it short , IÂ ’ ll cite you to what I think are two of the best expressions of why the RKBA exists . The first was said by an Englishman named Andrew Fletcher , whose work was frequently cited by our founders to justify armed resistance against British misrule in America . The second was said by a Judge in my beloved Commonwealth of Virginia : And I can not see , why arms should be denied to any man who is not a slave , since they are the only true badges of liberty . . . .The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave . He who has nothing , and belongs to another , must be defended by him , and needs no arms : but he who thinks he is his own master , and has anything he may call his own , ought to have arms to defend himself and what he possesses , or else he lives precariously and at discretion . And though for a while those who have the sword in their power abstain from doing him injury ; yet , by degrees , he will be awed into submission to every arbitrary command . Andrew Fletcher , Political Works , pp . 35 and 221 ( 1749 ) . The right of self-defense is the first law of nature ; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest possible limits ... and [ when ] the right of the people to keep and bear arms is , under any color or pretext whatsoever , prohibited , liberty , if not already annihilated , is on the brink of destruction . Sir George Tucker , Judge of the Virginia Supreme Court and U.S. District Court of Virginia , in I Blackstone COMMENTARIES , Sir George Tucker Ed. , 1803 , pg . 300 There are many solid legal , moral , and practical arguments in support of private firearm ownership . Some are short , but many are long . I know quite a few of them , and IÂ ’ ll happily share them with you if you want some more ammo for your debate . Just let me know here . -- - False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience ; that would take fire from men because it burns , and water because one may drown in it ; that has no remedy for evils , except destruction . The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature . They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity , the most important of the code , will respect the less important and arbitrary ones , which can be violated with ease and impunity , and which , if strictly obeyed , would put and end to personal liberty -- so dear to men , so dear to the enlightened legislator -- and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer ? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants ; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides , for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man . They ought to be designated as laws not preventative but fearful of crimes , produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts , and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree . Thomas Jefferson , Commonplace Book , 1774-1776 , quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment , 1764 A militia , when properly formed , are in fact the people themselves , and render regular troops in a great measure unnecessary . . . .the constitution ought to secure a genuine and guard against a select militia. . .and include. . .all men capable of bearing arms. . . . But , say gentlemen , the general militia are for the most part employed at home in their private concerns , can not well be called out , or be depended upon ; that we must have a select militia. . . . [ of the select militia ] These Corps , not much unlike regular troops , well ever produce an inattention to the general militia. . .whereas , to preserve liberty , it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms , and be taught alike , especially when young , how to use them . . . .The mind that aims at a select militia , must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle ; and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it , whenever they can prevail , no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it . Richard Henry Lee , Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer , p. 169-170 ( 1788 ) Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India , history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest . If we want the Arms Act to be repealed , if we want to learn the use of arms , here is a golden opportunity . If the middle class render voluntary help to Government in the hour of its trial , distrust will disappear , and the ban on possessing arms will be withdrawn . Ghandi , 2 M. Gandhi , An Autobiography of the Story of My Experiments with the Truth , p. 374 ( M. Desai , trans . 1927 ) . Whenever , therefore , the profession of arms becomes a distinct order in the state. . .the end of the social compact is defeated . . . .No free government was ever founded , or ever preserved its liberty , without uniting the characters of the citizen and soldier in those destined for defense of the state . . . .Such a well regulated militia , composed of freeholders , citizens and husbandman , who take up arms to preserve their property , as individuals , and their rights as freemen . M. T. Cicero ( a pseudonym taken by a writer arguing during the constitutional debates ) , Charleston State Gazette , September 8 , 1788 It has been asserted by the most respectable writers upon government , that a well-regulated militia , composed of the yeomanry of the country , have ever been considered as the bulwark of a free people . Tyrants have never placed any confidence on a militia composed of freemen . John DeWitt , The Anti-Federalist Papers , p. 75 ( M. Borden ed . 1965 ) Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms . V. I. Lenin , Collected Works , Vol . 35 , 4th ed. , p. 286 . From Congressional Record , April 28 , 1970 , p. H3601 . If the opposition disarms , well and good . If it refuses to disarm , we shall disarm it ourselves . Joseph Stalin , Reply to the discussion on the Political Reports of the Central Committee , Dec. 7 , 1927 . Stalin , Works , Vol . 10 , p. 378 . From Congressional Record , April 28 , 1970 , p. H3601 .. The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms . History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing . Indeed , I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty . So let 's not have any native militia or native police . German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories , and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country . Adolf Hitler , dinner talk on April 11 , 1942 , quoted in Hitler 's Table Talk 1941-44 : His Private Conversations , Second Edition ( 1973 ) , Pg . 425-426 ."
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"I am a high school student seeking help"
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"The first was said by an Englishman named Andrew Fletcher , whose work was frequently cited by our founders to justify armed resistance against British misrule in America ."
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2,654 | 702 |
"Hello everyone , I am a high school student seeking help . Me and my partner are about to enter a debate on firearms , and we already know that we are for guns . Can you all just tell me if you are for guns or not and a short reason why ? Thank you ."
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"Well , to keep it short , IÂ ’ ll cite you to what I think are two of the best expressions of why the RKBA exists . The first was said by an Englishman named Andrew Fletcher , whose work was frequently cited by our founders to justify armed resistance against British misrule in America . The second was said by a Judge in my beloved Commonwealth of Virginia : And I can not see , why arms should be denied to any man who is not a slave , since they are the only true badges of liberty . . . .The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave . He who has nothing , and belongs to another , must be defended by him , and needs no arms : but he who thinks he is his own master , and has anything he may call his own , ought to have arms to defend himself and what he possesses , or else he lives precariously and at discretion . And though for a while those who have the sword in their power abstain from doing him injury ; yet , by degrees , he will be awed into submission to every arbitrary command . Andrew Fletcher , Political Works , pp . 35 and 221 ( 1749 ) . The right of self-defense is the first law of nature ; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest possible limits ... and [ when ] the right of the people to keep and bear arms is , under any color or pretext whatsoever , prohibited , liberty , if not already annihilated , is on the brink of destruction . Sir George Tucker , Judge of the Virginia Supreme Court and U.S. District Court of Virginia , in I Blackstone COMMENTARIES , Sir George Tucker Ed. , 1803 , pg . 300 There are many solid legal , moral , and practical arguments in support of private firearm ownership . Some are short , but many are long . I know quite a few of them , and IÂ ’ ll happily share them with you if you want some more ammo for your debate . Just let me know here . -- - False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience ; that would take fire from men because it burns , and water because one may drown in it ; that has no remedy for evils , except destruction . The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature . They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity , the most important of the code , will respect the less important and arbitrary ones , which can be violated with ease and impunity , and which , if strictly obeyed , would put and end to personal liberty -- so dear to men , so dear to the enlightened legislator -- and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer ? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants ; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides , for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man . They ought to be designated as laws not preventative but fearful of crimes , produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts , and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree . Thomas Jefferson , Commonplace Book , 1774-1776 , quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment , 1764 A militia , when properly formed , are in fact the people themselves , and render regular troops in a great measure unnecessary . . . .the constitution ought to secure a genuine and guard against a select militia. . .and include. . .all men capable of bearing arms. . . . But , say gentlemen , the general militia are for the most part employed at home in their private concerns , can not well be called out , or be depended upon ; that we must have a select militia. . . . [ of the select militia ] These Corps , not much unlike regular troops , well ever produce an inattention to the general militia. . .whereas , to preserve liberty , it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms , and be taught alike , especially when young , how to use them . . . .The mind that aims at a select militia , must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle ; and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it , whenever they can prevail , no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it . Richard Henry Lee , Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer , p. 169-170 ( 1788 ) Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India , history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest . If we want the Arms Act to be repealed , if we want to learn the use of arms , here is a golden opportunity . If the middle class render voluntary help to Government in the hour of its trial , distrust will disappear , and the ban on possessing arms will be withdrawn . Ghandi , 2 M. Gandhi , An Autobiography of the Story of My Experiments with the Truth , p. 374 ( M. Desai , trans . 1927 ) . Whenever , therefore , the profession of arms becomes a distinct order in the state. . .the end of the social compact is defeated . . . .No free government was ever founded , or ever preserved its liberty , without uniting the characters of the citizen and soldier in those destined for defense of the state . . . .Such a well regulated militia , composed of freeholders , citizens and husbandman , who take up arms to preserve their property , as individuals , and their rights as freemen . M. T. Cicero ( a pseudonym taken by a writer arguing during the constitutional debates ) , Charleston State Gazette , September 8 , 1788 It has been asserted by the most respectable writers upon government , that a well-regulated militia , composed of the yeomanry of the country , have ever been considered as the bulwark of a free people . Tyrants have never placed any confidence on a militia composed of freemen . John DeWitt , The Anti-Federalist Papers , p. 75 ( M. Borden ed . 1965 ) Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms . V. I. Lenin , Collected Works , Vol . 35 , 4th ed. , p. 286 . From Congressional Record , April 28 , 1970 , p. H3601 . If the opposition disarms , well and good . If it refuses to disarm , we shall disarm it ourselves . Joseph Stalin , Reply to the discussion on the Political Reports of the Central Committee , Dec. 7 , 1927 . Stalin , Works , Vol . 10 , p. 378 . From Congressional Record , April 28 , 1970 , p. H3601 .. The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms . History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing . Indeed , I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty . So let 's not have any native militia or native police . German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories , and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country . Adolf Hitler , dinner talk on April 11 , 1942 , quoted in Hitler 's Table Talk 1941-44 : His Private Conversations , Second Edition ( 1973 ) , Pg . 425-426 ."
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"we already know that we are for guns . Can you all just tell me if you are for guns or not and a short reason why ? Thank you ."
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"Well , to keep it short , IÂ ’ ll cite you to what I think are two of the best expressions of why the RKBA exists ."
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"Hello everyone , I am a high school student seeking help . Me and my partner are about to enter a debate on firearms , and we already know that we are for guns . Can you all just tell me if you are for guns or not and a short reason why ? Thank you ."
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"Well , to keep it short , IÂ ’ ll cite you to what I think are two of the best expressions of why the RKBA exists . The first was said by an Englishman named Andrew Fletcher , whose work was frequently cited by our founders to justify armed resistance against British misrule in America . The second was said by a Judge in my beloved Commonwealth of Virginia : And I can not see , why arms should be denied to any man who is not a slave , since they are the only true badges of liberty . . . .The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave . He who has nothing , and belongs to another , must be defended by him , and needs no arms : but he who thinks he is his own master , and has anything he may call his own , ought to have arms to defend himself and what he possesses , or else he lives precariously and at discretion . And though for a while those who have the sword in their power abstain from doing him injury ; yet , by degrees , he will be awed into submission to every arbitrary command . Andrew Fletcher , Political Works , pp . 35 and 221 ( 1749 ) . The right of self-defense is the first law of nature ; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest possible limits ... and [ when ] the right of the people to keep and bear arms is , under any color or pretext whatsoever , prohibited , liberty , if not already annihilated , is on the brink of destruction . Sir George Tucker , Judge of the Virginia Supreme Court and U.S. District Court of Virginia , in I Blackstone COMMENTARIES , Sir George Tucker Ed. , 1803 , pg . 300 There are many solid legal , moral , and practical arguments in support of private firearm ownership . Some are short , but many are long . I know quite a few of them , and IÂ ’ ll happily share them with you if you want some more ammo for your debate . Just let me know here . -- - False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience ; that would take fire from men because it burns , and water because one may drown in it ; that has no remedy for evils , except destruction . The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature . They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity , the most important of the code , will respect the less important and arbitrary ones , which can be violated with ease and impunity , and which , if strictly obeyed , would put and end to personal liberty -- so dear to men , so dear to the enlightened legislator -- and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer ? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants ; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides , for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man . They ought to be designated as laws not preventative but fearful of crimes , produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts , and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree . Thomas Jefferson , Commonplace Book , 1774-1776 , quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment , 1764 A militia , when properly formed , are in fact the people themselves , and render regular troops in a great measure unnecessary . . . .the constitution ought to secure a genuine and guard against a select militia. . .and include. . .all men capable of bearing arms. . . . But , say gentlemen , the general militia are for the most part employed at home in their private concerns , can not well be called out , or be depended upon ; that we must have a select militia. . . . [ of the select militia ] These Corps , not much unlike regular troops , well ever produce an inattention to the general militia. . .whereas , to preserve liberty , it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms , and be taught alike , especially when young , how to use them . . . .The mind that aims at a select militia , must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle ; and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it , whenever they can prevail , no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it . Richard Henry Lee , Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer , p. 169-170 ( 1788 ) Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India , history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest . If we want the Arms Act to be repealed , if we want to learn the use of arms , here is a golden opportunity . If the middle class render voluntary help to Government in the hour of its trial , distrust will disappear , and the ban on possessing arms will be withdrawn . Ghandi , 2 M. Gandhi , An Autobiography of the Story of My Experiments with the Truth , p. 374 ( M. Desai , trans . 1927 ) . Whenever , therefore , the profession of arms becomes a distinct order in the state. . .the end of the social compact is defeated . . . .No free government was ever founded , or ever preserved its liberty , without uniting the characters of the citizen and soldier in those destined for defense of the state . . . .Such a well regulated militia , composed of freeholders , citizens and husbandman , who take up arms to preserve their property , as individuals , and their rights as freemen . M. T. Cicero ( a pseudonym taken by a writer arguing during the constitutional debates ) , Charleston State Gazette , September 8 , 1788 It has been asserted by the most respectable writers upon government , that a well-regulated militia , composed of the yeomanry of the country , have ever been considered as the bulwark of a free people . Tyrants have never placed any confidence on a militia composed of freemen . John DeWitt , The Anti-Federalist Papers , p. 75 ( M. Borden ed . 1965 ) Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms . V. I. Lenin , Collected Works , Vol . 35 , 4th ed. , p. 286 . From Congressional Record , April 28 , 1970 , p. H3601 . If the opposition disarms , well and good . If it refuses to disarm , we shall disarm it ourselves . Joseph Stalin , Reply to the discussion on the Political Reports of the Central Committee , Dec. 7 , 1927 . Stalin , Works , Vol . 10 , p. 378 . From Congressional Record , April 28 , 1970 , p. H3601 .. The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms . History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing . Indeed , I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty . So let 's not have any native militia or native police . German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories , and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country . Adolf Hitler , dinner talk on April 11 , 1942 , quoted in Hitler 's Table Talk 1941-44 : His Private Conversations , Second Edition ( 1973 ) , Pg . 425-426 ."
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"I am a high school student seeking help ."
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"His Private Conversations , Second Edition"
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"Hello everyone , I am a high school student seeking help . Me and my partner are about to enter a debate on firearms , and we already know that we are for guns . Can you all just tell me if you are for guns or not and a short reason why ? Thank you ."
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"Well , to keep it short , IÂ ’ ll cite you to what I think are two of the best expressions of why the RKBA exists . The first was said by an Englishman named Andrew Fletcher , whose work was frequently cited by our founders to justify armed resistance against British misrule in America . The second was said by a Judge in my beloved Commonwealth of Virginia : And I can not see , why arms should be denied to any man who is not a slave , since they are the only true badges of liberty . . . .The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave . He who has nothing , and belongs to another , must be defended by him , and needs no arms : but he who thinks he is his own master , and has anything he may call his own , ought to have arms to defend himself and what he possesses , or else he lives precariously and at discretion . And though for a while those who have the sword in their power abstain from doing him injury ; yet , by degrees , he will be awed into submission to every arbitrary command . Andrew Fletcher , Political Works , pp . 35 and 221 ( 1749 ) . The right of self-defense is the first law of nature ; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest possible limits ... and [ when ] the right of the people to keep and bear arms is , under any color or pretext whatsoever , prohibited , liberty , if not already annihilated , is on the brink of destruction . Sir George Tucker , Judge of the Virginia Supreme Court and U.S. District Court of Virginia , in I Blackstone COMMENTARIES , Sir George Tucker Ed. , 1803 , pg . 300 There are many solid legal , moral , and practical arguments in support of private firearm ownership . Some are short , but many are long . I know quite a few of them , and IÂ ’ ll happily share them with you if you want some more ammo for your debate . Just let me know here . -- - False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience ; that would take fire from men because it burns , and water because one may drown in it ; that has no remedy for evils , except destruction . The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature . They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity , the most important of the code , will respect the less important and arbitrary ones , which can be violated with ease and impunity , and which , if strictly obeyed , would put and end to personal liberty -- so dear to men , so dear to the enlightened legislator -- and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer ? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants ; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides , for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man . They ought to be designated as laws not preventative but fearful of crimes , produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts , and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree . Thomas Jefferson , Commonplace Book , 1774-1776 , quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment , 1764 A militia , when properly formed , are in fact the people themselves , and render regular troops in a great measure unnecessary . . . .the constitution ought to secure a genuine and guard against a select militia. . .and include. . .all men capable of bearing arms. . . . But , say gentlemen , the general militia are for the most part employed at home in their private concerns , can not well be called out , or be depended upon ; that we must have a select militia. . . . [ of the select militia ] These Corps , not much unlike regular troops , well ever produce an inattention to the general militia. . .whereas , to preserve liberty , it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms , and be taught alike , especially when young , how to use them . . . .The mind that aims at a select militia , must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle ; and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it , whenever they can prevail , no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it . Richard Henry Lee , Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer , p. 169-170 ( 1788 ) Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India , history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest . If we want the Arms Act to be repealed , if we want to learn the use of arms , here is a golden opportunity . If the middle class render voluntary help to Government in the hour of its trial , distrust will disappear , and the ban on possessing arms will be withdrawn . Ghandi , 2 M. Gandhi , An Autobiography of the Story of My Experiments with the Truth , p. 374 ( M. Desai , trans . 1927 ) . Whenever , therefore , the profession of arms becomes a distinct order in the state. . .the end of the social compact is defeated . . . .No free government was ever founded , or ever preserved its liberty , without uniting the characters of the citizen and soldier in those destined for defense of the state . . . .Such a well regulated militia , composed of freeholders , citizens and husbandman , who take up arms to preserve their property , as individuals , and their rights as freemen . M. T. Cicero ( a pseudonym taken by a writer arguing during the constitutional debates ) , Charleston State Gazette , September 8 , 1788 It has been asserted by the most respectable writers upon government , that a well-regulated militia , composed of the yeomanry of the country , have ever been considered as the bulwark of a free people . Tyrants have never placed any confidence on a militia composed of freemen . John DeWitt , The Anti-Federalist Papers , p. 75 ( M. Borden ed . 1965 ) Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms . V. I. Lenin , Collected Works , Vol . 35 , 4th ed. , p. 286 . From Congressional Record , April 28 , 1970 , p. H3601 . If the opposition disarms , well and good . If it refuses to disarm , we shall disarm it ourselves . Joseph Stalin , Reply to the discussion on the Political Reports of the Central Committee , Dec. 7 , 1927 . Stalin , Works , Vol . 10 , p. 378 . From Congressional Record , April 28 , 1970 , p. H3601 .. The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms . History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing . Indeed , I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty . So let 's not have any native militia or native police . German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories , and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country . Adolf Hitler , dinner talk on April 11 , 1942 , quoted in Hitler 's Table Talk 1941-44 : His Private Conversations , Second Edition ( 1973 ) , Pg . 425-426 ."
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"Can you all just tell me if you are for guns or not and a short reason why ? Thank you ."
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"And I can not see , why arms should be denied to any man who is not a slave"
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2,655 | 702 |
"Hello everyone , I am a high school student seeking help . Me and my partner are about to enter a debate on firearms , and we already know that we are for guns . Can you all just tell me if you are for guns or not and a short reason why ? Thank you ."
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"Well , to keep it short , IÂ ’ ll cite you to what I think are two of the best expressions of why the RKBA exists . The first was said by an Englishman named Andrew Fletcher , whose work was frequently cited by our founders to justify armed resistance against British misrule in America . The second was said by a Judge in my beloved Commonwealth of Virginia : And I can not see , why arms should be denied to any man who is not a slave , since they are the only true badges of liberty . . . .The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave . He who has nothing , and belongs to another , must be defended by him , and needs no arms : but he who thinks he is his own master , and has anything he may call his own , ought to have arms to defend himself and what he possesses , or else he lives precariously and at discretion . And though for a while those who have the sword in their power abstain from doing him injury ; yet , by degrees , he will be awed into submission to every arbitrary command . Andrew Fletcher , Political Works , pp . 35 and 221 ( 1749 ) . The right of self-defense is the first law of nature ; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest possible limits ... and [ when ] the right of the people to keep and bear arms is , under any color or pretext whatsoever , prohibited , liberty , if not already annihilated , is on the brink of destruction . Sir George Tucker , Judge of the Virginia Supreme Court and U.S. District Court of Virginia , in I Blackstone COMMENTARIES , Sir George Tucker Ed. , 1803 , pg . 300 There are many solid legal , moral , and practical arguments in support of private firearm ownership . Some are short , but many are long . I know quite a few of them , and IÂ ’ ll happily share them with you if you want some more ammo for your debate . Just let me know here . -- - False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience ; that would take fire from men because it burns , and water because one may drown in it ; that has no remedy for evils , except destruction . The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature . They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity , the most important of the code , will respect the less important and arbitrary ones , which can be violated with ease and impunity , and which , if strictly obeyed , would put and end to personal liberty -- so dear to men , so dear to the enlightened legislator -- and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer ? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants ; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides , for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man . They ought to be designated as laws not preventative but fearful of crimes , produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts , and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree . Thomas Jefferson , Commonplace Book , 1774-1776 , quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment , 1764 A militia , when properly formed , are in fact the people themselves , and render regular troops in a great measure unnecessary . . . .the constitution ought to secure a genuine and guard against a select militia. . .and include. . .all men capable of bearing arms. . . . But , say gentlemen , the general militia are for the most part employed at home in their private concerns , can not well be called out , or be depended upon ; that we must have a select militia. . . . [ of the select militia ] These Corps , not much unlike regular troops , well ever produce an inattention to the general militia. . .whereas , to preserve liberty , it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms , and be taught alike , especially when young , how to use them . . . .The mind that aims at a select militia , must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle ; and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it , whenever they can prevail , no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it . Richard Henry Lee , Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer , p. 169-170 ( 1788 ) Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India , history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest . If we want the Arms Act to be repealed , if we want to learn the use of arms , here is a golden opportunity . If the middle class render voluntary help to Government in the hour of its trial , distrust will disappear , and the ban on possessing arms will be withdrawn . Ghandi , 2 M. Gandhi , An Autobiography of the Story of My Experiments with the Truth , p. 374 ( M. Desai , trans . 1927 ) . Whenever , therefore , the profession of arms becomes a distinct order in the state. . .the end of the social compact is defeated . . . .No free government was ever founded , or ever preserved its liberty , without uniting the characters of the citizen and soldier in those destined for defense of the state . . . .Such a well regulated militia , composed of freeholders , citizens and husbandman , who take up arms to preserve their property , as individuals , and their rights as freemen . M. T. Cicero ( a pseudonym taken by a writer arguing during the constitutional debates ) , Charleston State Gazette , September 8 , 1788 It has been asserted by the most respectable writers upon government , that a well-regulated militia , composed of the yeomanry of the country , have ever been considered as the bulwark of a free people . Tyrants have never placed any confidence on a militia composed of freemen . John DeWitt , The Anti-Federalist Papers , p. 75 ( M. Borden ed . 1965 ) Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms . V. I. Lenin , Collected Works , Vol . 35 , 4th ed. , p. 286 . From Congressional Record , April 28 , 1970 , p. H3601 . If the opposition disarms , well and good . If it refuses to disarm , we shall disarm it ourselves . Joseph Stalin , Reply to the discussion on the Political Reports of the Central Committee , Dec. 7 , 1927 . Stalin , Works , Vol . 10 , p. 378 . From Congressional Record , April 28 , 1970 , p. H3601 .. The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms . History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing . Indeed , I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty . So let 's not have any native militia or native police . German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories , and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country . Adolf Hitler , dinner talk on April 11 , 1942 , quoted in Hitler 's Table Talk 1941-44 : His Private Conversations , Second Edition ( 1973 ) , Pg . 425-426 ."
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"Can you all just tell me if you are for guns or not and a short reason why"
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"what I think are two of the best expressions of why the RKBA exists"
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"Manslaughter involves a direct action that causes an unintentional death . Miscarriage is involuntary ; besides the person suffering a miscarriage might well want to keep the baby ."
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"Does n't that explain why manslaughter is like miscarriage , rather than why it is different ? And Clerisian , you did n't seem to be arguing that the two were distinct , rather you appeared to say that pro-lifers did support charging mothers who miscarried with manslaughter ( where the mother 's actions , say , drinking heavily , were the cause of death ) ."
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"Miscarriage is involuntary ; besides the person suffering a miscarriage might well want to keep the baby ."
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"pro-lifers did support charging mothers who miscarried with manslaughter"
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"Manslaughter involves a direct action that causes an unintentional death . Miscarriage is involuntary ; besides the person suffering a miscarriage might well want to keep the baby ."
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"Does n't that explain why manslaughter is like miscarriage , rather than why it is different ? And Clerisian , you did n't seem to be arguing that the two were distinct , rather you appeared to say that pro-lifers did support charging mothers who miscarried with manslaughter ( where the mother 's actions , say , drinking heavily , were the cause of death ) ."
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"Manslaughter involves a direct action that causes an unintentional death ."
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"Does n't that explain why manslaughter is like miscarriage , rather than why it is different"
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"Manslaughter involves a direct action that causes an unintentional death . Miscarriage is involuntary ; besides the person suffering a miscarriage might well want to keep the baby ."
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"Does n't that explain why manslaughter is like miscarriage , rather than why it is different ? And Clerisian , you did n't seem to be arguing that the two were distinct , rather you appeared to say that pro-lifers did support charging mothers who miscarried with manslaughter ( where the mother 's actions , say , drinking heavily , were the cause of death ) ."
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"Manslaughter involves a direct action that causes an unintentional death . Miscarriage is involuntary ; besides the person suffering a miscarriage might well want to keep the baby ."
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"Does n't that explain why manslaughter is like miscarriage , rather than why it is different ? And Clerisian , you did n't seem to be arguing that the two were distinct"
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"Manslaughter involves a direct action that causes an unintentional death . Miscarriage is involuntary ; besides the person suffering a miscarriage might well want to keep the baby ."
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"Does n't that explain why manslaughter is like miscarriage , rather than why it is different ? And Clerisian , you did n't seem to be arguing that the two were distinct , rather you appeared to say that pro-lifers did support charging mothers who miscarried with manslaughter ( where the mother 's actions , say , drinking heavily , were the cause of death ) ."
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"Manslaughter involves a direct action that causes an unintentional death ."
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"Does n't that explain why manslaughter is like miscarriage"
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"Manslaughter involves a direct action that causes an unintentional death . Miscarriage is involuntary ; besides the person suffering a miscarriage might well want to keep the baby ."
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"Does n't that explain why manslaughter is like miscarriage , rather than why it is different ? And Clerisian , you did n't seem to be arguing that the two were distinct , rather you appeared to say that pro-lifers did support charging mothers who miscarried with manslaughter ( where the mother 's actions , say , drinking heavily , were the cause of death ) ."
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"Manslaughter involves a direct action that causes an unintentional death Miscarriage is involuntary ;"
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"Does n't that explain why manslaughter is like miscarriage , rather than why it is different ?"
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"may there never be a 34th !"
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"Agreed !"
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"may there never be a 34th !"
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"Agreed !"
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"may there never be a 34th !"
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"may there never be a 34th !"
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"Agreed"
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"may there never be a 34th !"
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"Agreed !"
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"may there never be a 34th !"
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"Agreed !"
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"may there never be a 34th !"
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"Agreed !"
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"may there never be a 34th !"
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"Agreed !"
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"Mechanism ? what for ? Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
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"So your idea is completely unscientific ."
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"Being of a much greater power puts any mechanisms beyond our understanding ."
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"So your idea is completely unscientific"
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"Mechanism ? what for ? Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
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"So your idea is completely unscientific ."
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"Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
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"So your idea is completely unscientific ."
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2,670 | 705 |
"Mechanism ? what for ? Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
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"So your idea is completely unscientific ."
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"Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
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"So your idea is completely unscientific ."
| null | null |
2,668 | 705 |
"Mechanism ? what for ? Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
|
"So your idea is completely unscientific ."
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DISAGREE
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"Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
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"So your idea is completely unscientific ."
| null | null |
2,672 | 705 |
"Mechanism ? what for ? Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
|
"So your idea is completely unscientific ."
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DISAGREE
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"Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
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"So your idea is completely unscientific"
| null | null |
2,671 | 705 |
"Mechanism ? what for ? Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
|
"So your idea is completely unscientific ."
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DISAGREE
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"Being of a much greater power puts any `` mechanisms `` beyond our understanding ."
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"So your idea is completely unscientific ."
| null | null |
2,676 | 706 |
"And the reason they say that -- one of them -- is that NS on the level of the population is random .... which makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever . With a constantly changing environment it is so obvious to me that different groups of animals would do better in different environments . This is where competition really happens ."
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"He only understands natural selection when he belives that it goes against what is accepted by scientists ."
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"With a constantly changing environment it is so obvious to me that different groups of animals would do better in different environments ."
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"He only understands natural selection when he belives that it goes against what is accepted by scientists ."
| null | null |
2,674 | 706 |
"And the reason they say that -- one of them -- is that NS on the level of the population is random .... which makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever . With a constantly changing environment it is so obvious to me that different groups of animals would do better in different environments . This is where competition really happens ."
|
"He only understands natural selection when he belives that it goes against what is accepted by scientists ."
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"NS on the level of the population is random .... which makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever ."
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"He only understands natural selection when he belives that it goes against what is accepted by scientists ."
| null | null |
2,678 | 706 |
"And the reason they say that -- one of them -- is that NS on the level of the population is random .... which makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever . With a constantly changing environment it is so obvious to me that different groups of animals would do better in different environments . This is where competition really happens ."
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"He only understands natural selection when he belives that it goes against what is accepted by scientists ."
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"NS on the level of the population is random different groups of animals would do better in different environments"
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"natural selection when he belives that it goes against what is accepted by scientists"
| null | null |
2,675 | 706 |
"And the reason they say that -- one of them -- is that NS on the level of the population is random .... which makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever . With a constantly changing environment it is so obvious to me that different groups of animals would do better in different environments . This is where competition really happens ."
|
"He only understands natural selection when he belives that it goes against what is accepted by scientists ."
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DISAGREE
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"This is where competition really happens ."
|
"He only understands natural selection when he belives that it goes against what is accepted by scientists ."
| null | null |
2,682 | 707 |
"I concur . Michigan adopted a shall-issue system three years ago and the Wild West still has n't gotten here . What the hell is it waiting for ?"
|
"The Muslim invasion . You guys need targets right ?"
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DISAGREE
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"What the hell is it waiting for ?"
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"The Muslim invasion . You guys need targets right ?"
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2,681 | 707 |
"I concur . Michigan adopted a shall-issue system three years ago and the Wild West still has n't gotten here . What the hell is it waiting for ?"
|
"The Muslim invasion . You guys need targets right ?"
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DISAGREE
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"What the hell is it waiting for ?"
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"The Muslim invasion . You guys need targets right ?"
| null | null |
2,684 | 707 |
"I concur . Michigan adopted a shall-issue system three years ago and the Wild West still has n't gotten here . What the hell is it waiting for ?"
|
"The Muslim invasion . You guys need targets right ?"
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DISAGREE
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"What the hell is it waiting for ?"
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"The Muslim invasion ."
| null | null |
2,685 | 707 |
"I concur . Michigan adopted a shall-issue system three years ago and the Wild West still has n't gotten here . What the hell is it waiting for ?"
|
"The Muslim invasion . You guys need targets right ?"
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DISAGREE
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"I concur"
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"The Muslim invasion"
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2,680 | 707 |
"I concur . Michigan adopted a shall-issue system three years ago and the Wild West still has n't gotten here . What the hell is it waiting for ?"
|
"The Muslim invasion . You guys need targets right ?"
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DISAGREE
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"Michigan adopted a shall-issue system three years ago and the Wild West still has n't gotten here ."
|
"The Muslim invasion . You guys need targets right ?"
| null | null |
2,687 | 708 |
"Those links have long been refuted http : //www.creationwiki.org/ ( Talk.Or ... dd_information http : //www.creationwiki.org/ ( Talk.Or ... e_new_features"
|
"`` refuted ? `` O'rly ? First they start off defining evolution as `` moleclues to man `` despite what evolution actually states . That further proves my point about strawman . They do n't discuss what evolution actually is . Furthermore , the whole notion that increasing capacity and adaption is not increasing complexity is insane . If I take a simple structure , modify it to form something more complex , is that not a change in complexity ? The whole idea that modifying DNA , changing it , removing and adding is n't actually changing anything is retarded . And they are separating macro from micro . That 's an invalid argument given that macro is nothing more then the aggregate of micro . A billion tiny changes makes a few large ones . The second idiotic article cites Natural genetic engineering . Despite there being absolutely no evidence of this occuring anywhere ."
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"Those links have long been refuted http :"
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"Furthermore , the whole notion that increasing capacity and adaption is not increasing complexity is insane . If I take a simple structure , modify it to form something more complex , is that not a change in complexity ?"
| null | null |
2,686 | 708 |
"Those links have long been refuted http : //www.creationwiki.org/ ( Talk.Or ... dd_information http : //www.creationwiki.org/ ( Talk.Or ... e_new_features"
|
"`` refuted ? `` O'rly ? First they start off defining evolution as `` moleclues to man `` despite what evolution actually states . That further proves my point about strawman . They do n't discuss what evolution actually is . Furthermore , the whole notion that increasing capacity and adaption is not increasing complexity is insane . If I take a simple structure , modify it to form something more complex , is that not a change in complexity ? The whole idea that modifying DNA , changing it , removing and adding is n't actually changing anything is retarded . And they are separating macro from micro . That 's an invalid argument given that macro is nothing more then the aggregate of micro . A billion tiny changes makes a few large ones . The second idiotic article cites Natural genetic engineering . Despite there being absolutely no evidence of this occuring anywhere ."
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DISAGREE
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"Those links have long been refuted"
|
"First they start off defining evolution as `` moleclues to man `` despite what evolution actually states . That further proves my point about strawman . They do n't discuss what evolution actually is ."
| null | null |
2,691 | 709 |
"To sum it all up , the Big Bang Theory states that 'nothing exploded and here we are ! '"
|
"And that 's your idea of disproff ? Pitiful ."
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DISAGREE
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"To sum it all up , the Big Bang Theory states that 'nothing exploded and here we are ! '"
|
"And that 's your idea of disproff ? Pitiful ."
| null | null |
2,689 | 709 |
"To sum it all up , the Big Bang Theory states that 'nothing exploded and here we are ! '"
|
"And that 's your idea of disproff ? Pitiful ."
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DISAGREE
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"the Big Bang Theory states that 'nothing exploded and here we are"
|
"'s your idea of disproff ? Pitiful ."
| null | null |
2,690 | 709 |
"To sum it all up , the Big Bang Theory states that 'nothing exploded and here we are ! '"
|
"And that 's your idea of disproff ? Pitiful ."
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DISAGREE
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"the Big Bang Theory states that 'nothing exploded and here we are !"
|
"And that 's your idea of disproff ? Pitiful ."
| null | null |
2,693 | 710 |
"Personally , I have seen enough human nature , and have too low an opinion of the human race as a whole to really mourn when I hear that one or more human beings has left this mortal coil . Kids are the exception ( including the unborn ones ) . I think it really says something about us as a people that some of us actually make the decision to kill babies . Pretty sick ."
|
"What a condescending attitude you have . In case you have n't noticed , you are a very small part of the human race that you smuggly hold in contempt . ( Thankfully small ! ) Your mission should be to improve it , not to stand back and claim you are better than everybody else , as you seem to do . Killing innocent people of any age is wrong . Children are no exception , they are just the epitomy of innocence . The `` pretty sick `` applies to your own deluded thoughts . Rest assured , I will not mourn your death or the deaths of any of those you may have taught your insane values . You are !"
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"I think it really says something about us as a people that some of us actually make the decision to kill babies . Pretty sick ."
|
"The `` pretty sick `` applies to your own deluded thoughts ."
| null | null |
2,694 | 710 |
"Personally , I have seen enough human nature , and have too low an opinion of the human race as a whole to really mourn when I hear that one or more human beings has left this mortal coil . Kids are the exception ( including the unborn ones ) . I think it really says something about us as a people that some of us actually make the decision to kill babies . Pretty sick ."
|
"What a condescending attitude you have . In case you have n't noticed , you are a very small part of the human race that you smuggly hold in contempt . ( Thankfully small ! ) Your mission should be to improve it , not to stand back and claim you are better than everybody else , as you seem to do . Killing innocent people of any age is wrong . Children are no exception , they are just the epitomy of innocence . The `` pretty sick `` applies to your own deluded thoughts . Rest assured , I will not mourn your death or the deaths of any of those you may have taught your insane values . You are !"
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DISAGREE
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"low an opinion of the human race as a whole to really mourn when I hear that one or more human beings"
|
"you are better than everybody else , as you seem to do . Killing innocent people of any age is wrong"
| null | null |
2,692 | 710 |
"Personally , I have seen enough human nature , and have too low an opinion of the human race as a whole to really mourn when I hear that one or more human beings has left this mortal coil . Kids are the exception ( including the unborn ones ) . I think it really says something about us as a people that some of us actually make the decision to kill babies . Pretty sick ."
|
"What a condescending attitude you have . In case you have n't noticed , you are a very small part of the human race that you smuggly hold in contempt . ( Thankfully small ! ) Your mission should be to improve it , not to stand back and claim you are better than everybody else , as you seem to do . Killing innocent people of any age is wrong . Children are no exception , they are just the epitomy of innocence . The `` pretty sick `` applies to your own deluded thoughts . Rest assured , I will not mourn your death or the deaths of any of those you may have taught your insane values . You are !"
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DISAGREE
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"I think it really says something about us as a people that some of us actually make the decision to kill babies . Pretty sick ."
|
"The `` pretty sick `` applies to your own deluded thoughts . Rest assured , I will not mourn your death or the deaths of any of those you may have taught your insane values . You are !"
| null | null |
2,696 | 711 |
"I was n't thinking the term 'micro-evolution ' but that does work . My point was that the idea of evolution is a gradual change over a long period of time . ( I 've never head the term `` macro-evolution `` ( nor `` micro-evolution honestly ) but I assume that 's what it is until you suggest different . ) I guess the change in beak size is more noticeable than gradual . My point for asking the question was from the selection that you quoted . I point out what stuck out to me ... What I saw was that if the finch are evolving a smaller beak because of the larger billed `` recent immigration , `` than that is a fast change for when the idea of evolution is gradual change over a long period of time , unless I misinterpreted it . But then again , I think it 's possible that `` micro-evolution `` does happen in some birds such as finches ."
|
"It is 'change over time ' , not 'gradual change over time ' . The morphological changes tend to happen with a change in the environment . The difference between 'micro ' evolution and 'macro ' evolution is the number of steps . '' Macro `` evolution is a bunch of 'micro ' evoltultions that add up . You have two populations that you can compare that used to interbreed , and for some reason , do not , and then you add on a few 1000 'mircro-evolution ' events to each , they become very very different ."
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DISAGREE
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"I point out what stuck out to me ... What I saw was that if the finch are evolving a smaller beak"
|
"The morphological changes tend to happen with a change in the environment ."
| null | null |
2,695 | 711 |
"I was n't thinking the term 'micro-evolution ' but that does work . My point was that the idea of evolution is a gradual change over a long period of time . ( I 've never head the term `` macro-evolution `` ( nor `` micro-evolution honestly ) but I assume that 's what it is until you suggest different . ) I guess the change in beak size is more noticeable than gradual . My point for asking the question was from the selection that you quoted . I point out what stuck out to me ... What I saw was that if the finch are evolving a smaller beak because of the larger billed `` recent immigration , `` than that is a fast change for when the idea of evolution is gradual change over a long period of time , unless I misinterpreted it . But then again , I think it 's possible that `` micro-evolution `` does happen in some birds such as finches ."
|
"It is 'change over time ' , not 'gradual change over time ' . The morphological changes tend to happen with a change in the environment . The difference between 'micro ' evolution and 'macro ' evolution is the number of steps . '' Macro `` evolution is a bunch of 'micro ' evoltultions that add up . You have two populations that you can compare that used to interbreed , and for some reason , do not , and then you add on a few 1000 'mircro-evolution ' events to each , they become very very different ."
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DISAGREE
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"My point was that the idea of evolution is a gradual change over a long period of time ."
|
"It is 'change over time ' , not 'gradual change over time ' ."
| null | null |
2,697 | 711 |
"I was n't thinking the term 'micro-evolution ' but that does work . My point was that the idea of evolution is a gradual change over a long period of time . ( I 've never head the term `` macro-evolution `` ( nor `` micro-evolution honestly ) but I assume that 's what it is until you suggest different . ) I guess the change in beak size is more noticeable than gradual . My point for asking the question was from the selection that you quoted . I point out what stuck out to me ... What I saw was that if the finch are evolving a smaller beak because of the larger billed `` recent immigration , `` than that is a fast change for when the idea of evolution is gradual change over a long period of time , unless I misinterpreted it . But then again , I think it 's possible that `` micro-evolution `` does happen in some birds such as finches ."
|
"It is 'change over time ' , not 'gradual change over time ' . The morphological changes tend to happen with a change in the environment . The difference between 'micro ' evolution and 'macro ' evolution is the number of steps . '' Macro `` evolution is a bunch of 'micro ' evoltultions that add up . You have two populations that you can compare that used to interbreed , and for some reason , do not , and then you add on a few 1000 'mircro-evolution ' events to each , they become very very different ."
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DISAGREE
|
"What I saw was that if the finch are evolving a smaller beak because of the larger billed `` recent immigration , `` than that is a fast change for when the idea of evolution is gradual change over a long period of time , unless I misinterpreted it . But then again , I think it 's possible that `` micro-evolution `` does happen in some birds such as finches ."
|
"You have two populations that you can compare that used to interbreed , and for some reason , do not , and then you add on a few 1000 'mircro-evolution ' events to each , they become very very different ."
| null | null |
2,700 | 712 |
"Can you imagine what the U.S. population would be without abortion ? Who will take care of all these children when the potential parent can not ?"
|
"The idea of abortion as population control is absurd , especially forced abortions as someone mentioned a few posts ago . Anyone who has read a biology book knows the world has methods of population control on its own , we do n't need to be doing stuff like that ourselves ."
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DISAGREE
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"Can you imagine what the U.S. population would be without abortion ?"
|
"The idea of abortion as population control is absurd , especially forced abortions as someone mentioned a few posts ago ."
| null | null |
2,701 | 713 |
"He is clueless : CLUELESS : THE MISUSE OF BATF FIREARMS TRACING DATA"
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"Well I guess Nato basically : summed it up : Stupid is as stupid doe 's ."
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AGREE
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"CLUELESS : THE MISUSE OF BATF FIREARMS TRACING DATA"
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"I guess Nato basically : summed it up : Stupid is as stupid doe 's ."
| null | null |
2,703 | 713 |
"He is clueless : CLUELESS : THE MISUSE OF BATF FIREARMS TRACING DATA"
|
"Well I guess Nato basically : summed it up : Stupid is as stupid doe 's ."
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AGREE
|
"He is clueless : CLUELESS : THE MISUSE OF BATF FIREARMS TRACING DATA"
|
"Well I guess Nato basically : summed it up : Stupid is as stupid doe 's ."
| null | null |
2,702 | 713 |
"He is clueless : CLUELESS : THE MISUSE OF BATF FIREARMS TRACING DATA"
|
"Well I guess Nato basically : summed it up : Stupid is as stupid doe 's ."
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AGREE
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"He is clueless : CLUELESS : THE MISUSE OF BATF FIREARMS TRACING DATA"
|
"I guess Nato basically : summed it up : Stupid is as stupid doe 's"
| null | null |
2,704 | 714 |
"You should really think about what you say before you say it . I have heard this before and its garbish , I have been around and owned guns my whole life and I have never , not even once , had the thought of getting a gun just because someone # # # # # # me off . I would never use a gun on a person unless that person were a viable threat to my life , such as coming at me with a knife for example ."
|
"You need to read what people say more thoroughly , and think about it before you respond . When he said `` can `` ( and there are not many simpler words than that ! ) It did n't mean `` will `` , `` must `` , or `` shall `` be more aggressive . It has been shown that in some cases it `` CAN `` happen . It may not have happened with you . It still might , we do n't know . We might even say that it is not likely to happen , but we ca n't say that it wo n't , because sometimes some people do behave more aggressively when they have a gun ."
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"I have heard this before and its garbish , I have been around and owned guns my whole life"
|
"It has been shown that in some cases it `` CAN `` happen . It may not have happened with you ."
| null | null |
2,706 | 714 |
"You should really think about what you say before you say it . I have heard this before and its garbish , I have been around and owned guns my whole life and I have never , not even once , had the thought of getting a gun just because someone # # # # # # me off . I would never use a gun on a person unless that person were a viable threat to my life , such as coming at me with a knife for example ."
|
"You need to read what people say more thoroughly , and think about it before you respond . When he said `` can `` ( and there are not many simpler words than that ! ) It did n't mean `` will `` , `` must `` , or `` shall `` be more aggressive . It has been shown that in some cases it `` CAN `` happen . It may not have happened with you . It still might , we do n't know . We might even say that it is not likely to happen , but we ca n't say that it wo n't , because sometimes some people do behave more aggressively when they have a gun ."
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DISAGREE
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"I would never use a gun on a person unless that person were a viable threat to my life , such as coming at me with a knife for example ."
|
"You need to read what people say more thoroughly , and think about it before you respond . When he said `` can `` ( and there are not many simpler words than that ! ) It did n't mean `` will `` , `` must `` , or `` shall `` be more aggressive . It has been shown that in some cases it `` CAN `` happen ."
| null | null |
2,707 | 715 |
"This is not true ."
|
"Yes it is , police are n't obligated by the US Constitution to protect individual citizens . If they were , lawsuits could be filed every time a crime is committed , and the police would go bankrupt really quick ."
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DISAGREE
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"This is not true ."
|
"police are n't obligated by the US Constitution to protect individual citizens"
| null | null |
2,709 | 715 |
"This is not true ."
|
"Yes it is , police are n't obligated by the US Constitution to protect individual citizens . If they were , lawsuits could be filed every time a crime is committed , and the police would go bankrupt really quick ."
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DISAGREE
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"This is not true"
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"Yes it is"
| null | null |
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