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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
They're not going to need it.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay. Are these --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
They're going to make so much money --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Are these tariffs --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- if you build your product here. Remember, there are no tariffs if you build your product here. It's very easy. It's very simple.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Are these tariffs permanent, Mr. President?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Depends on what you're talking about. One of the things that is going to bring, and has brought -- so I think we probably have close to $9 trillion of investments coming into this country. If you look at other presidents, there's never been anything like that. This is over a period of two months. You've got to give me a little break on the one month because we're three months.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But, you know, let's say we had to get started. We had a lot of fake news at the beginning, so we had to beat that down. But so let's say in two months. So in just a short period of time -- a matter of a couple of months -- we have the largest number ever in history invested in the United States and committed.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
We have between, guaranteed, spoken for and people that are going to make a decision and announce it pretty soon, close to $9 trillion. We've never had anything close. Now, that's Apple building $500 billion worth of plants. They always built their plants in China. Now they're building their plants over here.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
That's the biggest computer company, the biggest chip company in the world. You know, the chip company from Taiwan, which is the biggest in the world, is committed for $500 billion. Another one's committed for $300 billion. We have companies, nobody's ever seen anything like it. Let me tell you the other thing, very importantly -- automobile companies.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Plant, after plant, after plant: Toyota, Honda, Ford, General Motors, Stellantis, I mean, nobody's ever seen anything like it. And I don't like this, but it happens to be. They're stopping work in Mexico, and they're stopping work in Canada, and they're all moving here.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
This is important though. You're not taking the possibility that these tariffs could be permanent off the table -- some of them?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No, I wouldn't do that because if somebody thought they were going to come off the table, why would they build in the United States?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Let me ask you about --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
You understand that, right?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Yeah. No, I mean, that's why I'm asking because there's a lot of, I think, uncertainty for CEOs, for business owners. They want to know are these tariffs --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
See, I don't think there is uncertainty.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- permanent?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I think there's only uncertainty in the fake news. I don't think there's uncertainty. I mean, I've been very rigid, very strong on it. But I will say I have -- I'm flexible. Like, with respect to parts made outside of the country, I gave the automobile companies a little extra time. You know, you're talking about 15%, and then 10% of the parts made -- put in a car.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I gave them a little extra time without penalizing them. And I did that only to help, you know, companies. We're looking to help companies. We want them to thrive and to hire a lot of people and that's what's happening.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Let me ask you about some of what Wall Street has said. Some people on Wall Street have expressed concerns that the possibility of a recession is increasing. And I want to know what you think about that. Are you comfortable with the country potentially dipping into a recession for a period of time if you are able to achieve your long term goals?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, you know, you say some people on Wall Street say, well, I'll tell you something else. Some people on Wall Street say that we're going to have the greatest economy in history. Why don't you talk about them? Because some people on Wall Street say this is the greatest --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, that's what I'm getting at --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- thing that ever happened.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
That's what I'm getting at though. It's --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
There are many people --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- the same question.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah. There are many people on Wall Street that say, "This is going to be the greatest windfall ever happen."<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And that's my question --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Remember this --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- the long term.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Is it okay in the short term to have a recession?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Remember this. Look, yeah. Everything's okay. What we are -- I said, this is a transition period. I think we're going to do fantastically. One of your colleagues on another fake news station, ABC, said, "Do you guarantee 100% that a certain person is going to do a fantastic job as, let's say, Secretary of Defense?" Okay?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Because that was the question. I said, "What kind of a question is that? Do I guarantee 100%? Nobody guarantees 100%." But I will say this. I think we're going to have an economy the likes of which we've never had before. You know, my four years were phenomenal, as you know. The stock market. In fact, even though we had to go through the Covid thing, that horrible situation with Covid, we did numbers -- and when I gave it over, when I handed it over, the election was rigged, and I handed it -- and because of that, we have a lot of problems, by the way.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But when I handed it over, what happened? The market was higher than it was previous to just previous to Covid coming in. Nobody could believe it. The stock market, I'm talking about.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
I don't want to look back, but you did take your case to court about that.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No, you got to look back.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You took your case to court about your allegations against the election. Let me ask you, sir --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Ah, no no no. There's no question about it. The election was rigged. The facts are in. And it's still being litigated. Let's go.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You did take your case to court more than 60 times --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No, no, sure.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- and didn't win those cases.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Sure. And I won a lot of court cases --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Just to button that up though, sir, just to button that up --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
What are you talking about? The election of --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
How worried are you --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Are we talking about the election of 2020?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
No, let's talk about the here and now. Let's talk about here and now --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
The election of 2020?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Let's not talk about -- let's talk about here and now. Are you worried about a recession?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No. No. I think we're going to have the greatest economic --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
I mean, are you worried it could happen? Do you think it could happen?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Anything can happen. But I think we're going to have the greatest economy in the history of our country. I think we're going to have the greatest economic boom in history.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Let me ask you about this call to Amazon founder Jeff Bezos this week in response to a report that Amazon was going to display tariff costs next to product prices. Are you going to punish CEOs who increase their prices because of tariffs?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I think what's -- what is a great misnomer is the word "tariff" in many cases, it's not -- to me, I don't view it as a tax. I view it as an incentive for people to come into the United States and build plants, factories, offices, a lot of things. I think it's an incentive. But the thing that's not known is, if you look back and see, oftentimes, like China or Vietnam or other countries, not just China, because China's an abuser, but there are other abusers.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Many of them are friends, the so-called -- I say friend and foe, and friend is oftentimes worse than foe. But what people don't understand is, and this is a lot, the country eats the tariff. The company eats the tariff. And it's not passed along at all.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, some CEOs --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't view it as a tax.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- are saying they're going to have to pass it on. So how do you deal with those CEOs?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It may. It may. But the company --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
How do you deal with those CEOs?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
China is eating the tariffs right now.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
What do you say to those CEOs who are saying, "We might have to pass this on to the consumer?"<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, they say that because maybe it's to their advantage to say it. Maybe they don't --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Will you punish them?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No, because you know what? I want them to build plants in the United States. That way, they don't have any tariffs. See, tariffs will -- and not only will, look at what's happened. In two months, we're close to $9 trillion of investment. We've never been anywhere near that.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
What did you say to Jeff Bezos?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
He's just a very nice guy. We have a relationship. I asked him about it. He said, "Well, I don't want to do that," and he took it off immediately.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So he changed course. And will you take that same tactic with other CEOs if you feel like --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Sure. I'll always call people if I disagree with them.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You'll --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
If I think that somebody's doing something that's incorrect, wrong, or maybe hurtful to the country, I'll call. Absolu -- wouldn't you want me to call? Biden wouldn't call because he didn't know what was happening, but I do.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Takes me to my next question. Today's strong jobs report likely means -- not clear, but likely means -- the Fed is less likely to lower interest rates soon.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, he should lower them. And at some point, he will. He'd rather not because he's not a fan of mine. You know, he just doesn't like me because I think he's a total stiff. And, you know, it's just one of those things. He should lower them. And I wish the people that are on that board would get him to lower because we are at a perfect time.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It's already late. But he should lower interest rates.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Do you rule out removing Fed Chair Jerome Powell?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I'm not -- you know, I get to change him very quickly anyway. You know, it's in a very short period of time.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
In 2026. You're not going to remove -- you don't have plans to remove him before 2026 when his time's up?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No, no, no. That was a total -- why would I do that? I get to replace the person in another short period of time.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay. This week, you reshuffled your national security team.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You moved National Security Advisor Mike Waltz to U.N. ambassador. Just to remind our viewers, Waltz, of course, started that unsecure text chain where sensitive information was shared. Mr. President, was that move a punishment?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No. I just think he'll do a nice job in the new position. Marco's doing an outstanding job. Now, Marco won't keep -- Marco's very busy doing other things, so he's not going to keep it long term. We're going to put somebody else in. But I think Mike was a -- as you know, he's a fine guy. And I think he'll do a very good job -- knows the countries, knows leadership.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And I think he'll do a very good at the United Nations. And in the meantime, Marco's really doing something special. And it's going to work out very well.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
We're hearing some potential names. Stephen Miller's name, one of your long-time, most loyal aides. His name has been talked about as a potential national security advisor. Is he someone you're looking at?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, I'd love to have Stephen there, but that would be a downgrade. Stephen is very -- Stephen is much higher on the totem pole than that, in my opinion.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Can you tell us who the front-runner is right now?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, I have a lot of people that want it. I will tell you, I have everybody calling. Everybody wants to be a part of this administration. So at some point we'll -- you know, probably do that. You know, there's a theory. Henry Kissinger did both. There's a theory that you don't need two people. But I think I have some really great people that could do a good job.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So Secretary Rubio could continue to have both jobs indefinitely?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
He could, yeah. He could. But I think he even would like to probably see -- because it is a little bit different. But in the meantime, he'll handle it. And I think Mike, if that goes forward, you know, he still has to get approved. But I think Mike will do a very good job at the United Nations.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth obviously also on that unsecure text chain. He was sharing sensitive information. Are you looking for a new secretary of defense, Mr. President?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No. Not even a little bit. No. Pete's going to be great. We're --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
His job is safe right now?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
We're doing a fantastic job against the Houthis, who like blowing ships up and watching them sink in the ocean. We're hitting them very hard. No, he's doing a very good job.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
His job is safe right now?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Totally safe.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay. Let's talk about the border.. Let's talk about deportations. Border crossings are at their lowest level ever recorded. Is the border --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Is that good?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Is the border now secure?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah, it's really secure.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
It's absolutely secure?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Isn't that good, though? When you say that, doesn't that just sound good? After being abused for years by an incompetent president that allowed people to pour through an open border, criminals from all over the world, murderers and insane people from mental institutions and insane asylums, isn't it -- isn't it a beautiful thing when you say, "It's the most secure it's ever been in the history of our country." Isn't that a nice statement?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, I'm curious to know what it means. You declared a national emergency on the southern border.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
The order is still in place. Even though --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
By the way, it means exactly what you said, you know --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- you're saying the border is secure. Yes.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Means we have the most secure border we've ever had.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, and I guess the question becomes --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It's not complicated.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- when will you know that the emergency is over? Are you planning to lift it at some point? Is it necessary? Because obviously, the military's involved. Will you lift that -- that emergency order, sir?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, the biggest emergency is the courts aren't allowing us to take really --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
We're going to talk about that, but talk to me first about this --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, that's to me the emergency because --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Talk to me first about this, the emergency --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
The border now is not the emergency. The border is -- it's all part of the same thing though. The big emergency right now is that we have thousands of people that we want to take out, and we have some judges that want everybody to go to court --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Some of them you appointed, sir, including three on the Supreme Court.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
That's all right. I mean, they change. I mean, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable how that happens, but they do change.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Just to button this up, though, are you planning to lift that emergency order any time soon now that the border's secure? You say the border's secure.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No, no, no. We have an emergency. We have a massive emergency overall. It's an overall emergency on immigration. And the -- if the courts don't allow us to take people out, if we had to have a court case every single -- think of it. Every single person, we have millions of people. If you have millions of court cases, figure two weeks a court case, it would be 300 years.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So let's talk about this, because obviously, you've had a back and forth with the Supreme Court. In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court directed your administration to facilitate the return, you've talked about this in the past, of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, from a prison in El Salvador, whose deportation your administration called an "administrative error." You said in a recent interview you could bring him back but you won't. Are you defying the Supreme Court, sir?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No. I'm relying on the attorney general of the United States, Pam Bondi, who's very capable, doing a great job. Because I'm not involved in the legality or the illegality. I have lawyers to do that and that's why I have a great DOJ. We have a great one. We had a very corrupt one before. Now we have a great one.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And they're not viewing the decision the way you said it. They don't view it that way at all. They think it's a totally different decision.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, you say you have the power to bring him back, though. Your attorney general says, quote, "That's up to El Salvador." Just to put a fine point on this, do you have the power to bring Abrego Garcia back as the Supreme Court has ordered?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, I have the power to ask for him to come back if I'm instructed by the attorney general that it's legal to do so. But the decision as to whether or not he should come back will be the head of El Salvador. He's a very capable man.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, you know, and your attorney general has said the issue is with that word "facilitate." Will you seek clarification from the Supreme Court? Do you need to go back to the Supreme Court?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
We may do that. I was asking about that. We may do that. There are some people that say, "Bring him back, put him in trial, and you get him out right away." Because you take -- you see what happened just this morning, tapes came out, horrible tapes from his wife. You don't get much worse than that. You don't get, I mean, he seems certainly like a very dangerous, very bad person.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But even the wife who was so afraid, she was afraid to talk, and all of a sudden tapes got released this morning that were devastating to him.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And this is the point, sir, about due process. The Constitution says every person, citizens and non-citizens, deserve due process. Why not push to have him come back, present all of that evidence in court, let a judge decide?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, I'll leave that to the lawyers, and I'll leave that to the attorney general of the United States, because --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
But do you agree --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- they're in it. You have to understand. I'm dealing with Russia and Ukraine. I'm dealing with China --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And we're going to talk about that.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I'm dealing with Iran. I'm dealing with Rwanda and the Congo who are fighting and we're trying to get that one straightened out. And I think we have done that, did a great job. Nobody even talks about it, but I think we're close to doing that. They're looking like they're going to maybe make a peace deal, which was -- would be good.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But I'm dealing with a lot of different things. I don't know much about this gentleman other than I hear he's an absolute not good person. And I have very capable legal people, John Sauer, as you know, and all top people. And I have to rely on that to interpret whatever is said by the Supreme Court. Now with that being said, I have tremendous respect for the Supreme Court.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Look, three of the people are people I appointed.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Right.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And I have great respect for the Supreme Court. And I would expect that the attorney general will be doing the right thing.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Your secretary of state says everyone who's here, citizens and non-citizens, deserve due process. Do you agree, Mr. President?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't know. I'm not, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, the Fifth Amendment says as much.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't know. It seems -- it might say that, but if you're talking about that, then we'd have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials. We have thousands of people that are some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on Earth.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
But is --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Some of the worst, most dangerous people on Earth. And I was elected to get them the hell out of here and the courts are holding me from doing it.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
But even given those numbers that you're talking about, don't you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States as president?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't know. I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said. What you said is not what I heard the Supreme Court said. They have a different interpretation.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Is anyone in your administration right now in contact with El Salvador about returning Abrego Garcia to the United States?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't know. You'd have to ask the attorney general that question.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay. At least two Americans have been mistakenly detained and released by your administration, immigration authorities. Mr. President, should lawful residents of this country start carrying paperwork with them when they leave their homes to be able to prove that they're --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't think that'll be necessary, but what you're not saying is that many people have been killed, maimed, badly hurt by illegal immigrants that came over that are from prisons and from jails and from mental institutions. And they're hurting our people. And if we don't get them out, we're not going to have a country for long.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
There --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
We need honest media, and we need walls. We need to have borders. And, by the way, I built a lot of walls, and if we didn't do that, we wouldn't be able to have those -- you know, we would not be able to have the kind of numbers if I wasn't successful in building hundreds of miles of wall.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Very quickly, sir. The last time you and I spoke in December, you said that you would consider working on getting Dreamers legal status. Dreamers, of course, those who are brought here illegally as children. Where do those efforts stand --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Many, many years ago --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Is that a priority for you?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, it's not a priority for the Democrats because every time we talk about it, they don't want to talk about it because I guess they like it as a political issue. But they're not good at political issues because they still want to have men play in women's sports.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, Republicans do control Congress right now, Mr. President. Are you going to make --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah, but the Democrats don't --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- Dreamers a priority?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, for that, you would need to have support from Democrats, and we have no support from the Democrats.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Have you had any discussions about Dreamers?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah, we've had discussions. We would do something. I'd love to put a beautiful immigration for everybody. But the Democrats don't want to approve anything. All they want to do is knock out a tax bill. We're trying to get approved right now the biggest tax cut in the history of our country, and if it doesn't get approved, it's a 68% tax increase, and that's what the Democrats want.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
They want a 68% tax increase. It's rather incredible.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And I do want to talk to you about your legislation, but let's talk about DOGE very quickly. DOGE has fired and then rehired thousands of federal workers, including FAA employees in charge of aviation safety, specialists working on nuclear weapon safety. What do you say to those who believe Elon Musk's chain saw approach has jeopardized the safety and security of Americans?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, he found $160 billion worth of fraud, waste and abuse. I mean, I think he's done an amazing job. I think his people have done an incredible job. They're brilliant people. They know the computer. I actually asked him, "What's their big trait?" He said, "They're unbelievable at computers." In other words, you can't fake them out.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Because these people were in many cases crooks, but it was fraud, waste and abuse. They found -- your question should be asked a different way. "Were certain things found?" Yes. "How much?" $160 billion. Think of what $160 billion is. If you found 160 --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
He said he'd find $2 trillion.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, we're not finished yet. We're not finished yet.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Do you think the work continues even though he's leaving?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Oh yes, of course, sure. He's leaving behind some very brilliant people. They were on television last night. They're super high IQ people. I like high IQ people. The Democrats don't have many of them.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Let me ask you about some news that broke. You are threatening to rescind Harvard's tax-exempt status.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And yet, directing the IRS to investigate and rescind a university's tax-exempt status is contrary to what's in the federal law. The law says you can't do this. Do you think you're following the law?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, I tell you, I'm going to just follow what the lawyers say. They say that we're allowed to do that, and I'm all for it. But everything I say is subject to the laws being 100% adhered to.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Are you willing to take this to court if it becomes a court fight?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Sure, why not?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You're going to take it that far?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
We've won a lot of cases.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
All right, let's talk about some of the other actions you've taken over the past 100 days. Last month, you directed your attorney general, Pam Bondi, to review two people who you perceive to be your political adversaries. And yet, you told me in December that you would not direct the Justice Department to investigate your political foes.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
What changed?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, no. I just look at people -- and I'm not directing anybody. They looked at these two people. They might have known it or they might have heard it from two years ago. One person said, "He knew me so well," he was I think on CNN or MSDNC, but they're both failing networks, you're happy to know. Even though one of them I guess is related to you in one form or another, although, they're trying to cut them loose as fast as possible.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But the -- it was well-known that this one person, it was almost like he was my brother. I don't even know who he is. Maybe he was there. Maybe he was in the Oval Office a few times as a surrogate for somebody in some form of government, along with 25 other people that sat in the back of the room or stood in the back of the room.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I have no idea who this guy is. And he's out there and then he did a book called "Anonymous." Did a book called "Anonymous." I think that's really subversion. I think it's spying, it's something. It's something really bad.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, you passed an executive order calling for your attorney general to investigate that.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And I think he's been looked at for a long time. And the other one said that the election was so wonderful. Well, it turned out it wasn't a wonderful election. It was a corrupt election.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Let me ask it this way, sir, because when we talked in December, I asked you, what is your message to people who didn't vote for you? Let me remind you of what you said. You said, "I love you, and we're going to all work together." How does pursuing your political foes help to unify the country?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Did I really say, "I love you?"<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You really did. That's a direct quote.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I'm sure you're right, but I'd like to see that.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
I promise I'll show it to you. I'll show you the tape.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Look --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
How does that help to unify the country?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I want to treat people fairly, whether they voted for me or not. I want to have a unified country. It's very hard because the media's so fake, including, like, even the way you ask questions. Every question is asked in a negative vein. "There's a toy company that took a toddler's you know whatever." But you don't talk about the fact that gasoline is down at numbers that nobody believes possible.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
You know why they're down, by the way? Drill baby, drill. We're drilling like crazy right now.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
We try to make sure every question is fair, Mr. President.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, look. Every question you ask says a very negative slant.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
No, no, no. But I'm just curious, are you --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And I'm fine for responding to you. I don't think you're very difficult at all to respond to, to be honest with you. But you know what? You should ask some positive things, like, "Sir, it's amazing what you've done with gasoline." Because you know what? Gasoline's big business. A stroller is not big business.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
But to this question, Mr. President, you said you wanted to unify the country. Does going after political foes undercut that goal?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No, not at all. No, we want honest people.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I think you have to do that. And we want honest people in this country.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Let me ask you big picture. People who have lived in countries like the Philippines, Hungary, Russia, they look at some of your actions -- going after civil service, going after universities, law firms, the media -- they say it's out of an authoritarian playbook. What do you say to those who believe you are taking the country down an authoritarian path?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, there you go again. Why don't you ask it a different way? Many people want to come into our country. Many people love Trump. I won the election. They didn't win the election. I got a lot more votes than they did. I won the popular vote. I won all seven swing states by a lot. A lot of people were surprised.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
They said, "I think he could win four, maybe five." No, I won all seven, and I won by a lot. And I won. Actually, I think there was a lot of hanky panky going on but it was too big to rig. That's the good news. It's too big to rig. But let me just say, so when you make these statements about, "People say this --" well, they had their chance at the election and they lost big.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
So you should ask the question differently --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
What do you say to --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
You should say, "What about the people that want to be in this country? What about the people that love this country?"<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay. But what do you say to -- I'm asking it on behalf of those people to give you a chance to respond to them. What do you say to those people, sir?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Those people are going to be very happy. They're going to have to see some results. And I think we had a great 100 days. There are a lot of people that say it was unprecedented. It was an absolutely unprecedented 100 days. And I hope that they're going to be right.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Do you see dissent as an essential part of democracy?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It's a part of democracy. It is. You're always going to have dissent --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Is it an important part of democracy?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
You're always going to have -- Kristen, you're always going to have dissent. There's nothing you're going to do about that. Am I going to get 100% unified? It would be a strange place. I can't even imagine it where 100%. Look. You have people that are good people. They're very smart people. And they honestly believe we should have open borders and the entire world should be allowed to pour into our country.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I think it's a 95/5 issue, but they believe it. They're not even bad people. Some of them are bad. You have people that honestly believe that men should be allowed to play in women's sports. Some of these people I really, actually I don't know any. I haven't been able to find any, but they exist. They say it's an 80/20 issue.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't believe that. I think it's a 97 to three issue.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Do you think people should have the right to criticize you without fear of reprisal?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Absolutely. Yeah, I do. That I do.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And how do you square that --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And I think that happens.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
How do you square that with the fact that you have passed these executive orders asking the attorney general to look into some of the people who've criticized you, who've been harshest against you?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I have been investigated more than any person in the history of the United States of America. I've been investigated more than the late great, as they say at my rallies, Alphonse Capone. Alphonse Capone was a nasty man. He was a -- the highest level gangster. And I have been investigated more than Al Capone, more than anybody.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
These people are evil people. And I won. And I'll tell you what. All I want to happen is for the Department of Justice and the FBI. Pam is great and Kash is great. I think they're two great people. But they're their own people. They want to do a fantastic job. And all I want to do and all I want to ask for is that they be allowed to do their job.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I'm not telling them to do anything. And I believe I have the right to do it. I'm, in theory, the top law enforcement officer as the president. We went over this once before, and it turned out I was right. But I'm not looking to use that. We have two great people, and we have many, many incredible people under them.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And I just want them to do their job and do it well.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Let me ask you about something I don't think you've been asked much about, which is you've branded your own cryptocurrency. The coin's value actually surged recently after you announced that top holders would be invited to have dinner --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't even know that. What did it surge to --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- that people wanted to -- what did it surge to?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah. What's it worth? You might as well tell me, because I have no idea.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, it surged, I will find it, hold on one second, 5.2 or 58%, so 58%.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
To what number?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
That's not bad, 14.32.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
What, billion?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
For -- no, dollars per cryptocurrency.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Billion dollars?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
No.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
What's the number? I mean, what is the amount?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
The meme coin's value hit a peak of 75.35 on January 19.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, that doesn't mean anything.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And that's before your inauguration, and then it surged.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Look. I'm in favor of crypto.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay. But let me just ask you --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
You know what I'm in favor of it --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- what do you say to those who argue that when they hear that, they worry you're profiting from the presidency?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I'm not profiting from anything. All I'm doing is, I started this long before the election. I want crypto. I think crypto's important because if we don't do it, China's going to. And it's new, it's very popular, it's very hot. If you look at the market, when the market went down, that stayed much stronger than other aspects of the market.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But I want crypto because a lot of people, you know millions of people want it. I don't know if you know that Biden went after it violently, and then before the election, he changed his tune entirely. His head of the SEC, everybody changed their tune. You know why? Because there were hundreds of millions of people that are participating in crypto, and they wanted to get their votes.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But it didn't work --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So you're not profiting off of the cryptocurrency at all?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I haven't even looked.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Has your family?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But I'll tell you what. Look, if I own stock in something and I do a good job, and the stock market goes up, I guess I'm profiting. But who really profits is somebody like Nancy Pelosi, who uses inside information. She worked for $175,000 a year, and that's at the high end. And she's worth $150, $200 million?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Okay? You ought to look at Nancy Pelosi and you ought to look at some of these politicians that are stone cold crooks. I was very wealthy when I came in. Being president probably cost me money if you really look. In fact, I do something that no other president has done, they think maybe George Washington has done.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I contribute my entire salary to the government, back to the government. And I'm doing it again.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So will you contribute anything you earn from crypto back to the government if that happens?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I never thought of that. I mean, should I contribute all of my real estate that I've owned for many years if it goes up a little bit because I'm president and doing a good job? I don't think so.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But I've done something that surprisingly they say nobody else has done, no other president has done. I give, and it's a substantial salary. It's a half a million dollars a year or $550,000 a year, four years, couple of million dollars. I gave it to the government last time. I never got a story saying I gave it. Nobody cared if I gave it. I guarantee if I didn't give it, there'd be a big story.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But no other president, they say with the possible exception of George Washington, and they haven't been able to find those records. And we've had wealthy presidents before, but no other president has contributed his salary. And they told me before this that you will probably be asking me whether or not I'm going to contribute my salary again.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But you haven't asked that.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Are you going to?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yes.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You are? Okay.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yes. I am.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay. Well, I appreciate -- we just made news there. Let's talk about foreign policy, sir. You just signed a minerals deal with Ukraine. It's a sign, it seems, that the United States is invested in Ukraine's future. The secretary of state told me this is a very critical week. Are you any closer to reaching a peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I hope so.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
How would you characterize it?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I do believe we're closer with one party, and maybe not as close with the other. But we'll have to see. I'd like to not say which one we're closer to. But we did do a deal for the American people that was good. We were able to get rare earth, you know? The Europeans are getting paid back. They have a loan.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
We didn't -- Biden just gave them $350 billion. He has no idea where the money is, what happened. And at least we'll, in one form or another, get our -- yeah, I don't feel so foolish. And remember this, this is Biden's war. This was a war that was never going to happen if I were president. This is a horrible, horrible war.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And I get to see shots of soldiers through, you know, satellite that are so, just so, terrible. 5,000 soldiers are being, look 5,000 soldiers a week on average are dying. They're not American soldiers. But I want to solve the problem. They're Russian soldiers, and they're Ukrainian soldiers. And if I can save 5,000 souls, I just love doing it.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
How long do you give both countries before you're going to walk away?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, there will be a time when I will say, "Okay, keep going. Keep being stupid and keep fighting."<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
When does that come? Are you close to it?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Sometimes I get close to it, and then positive things happen, okay? So I hope it gets done.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Your close ally, Senator Lindsey Graham, has a sanctions bill against Russia. If you get to that point, Mr. President, where you're prepared to walk away, will you support -- will you sign that sanctions bill?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, it depends on whether or not Russia is behaving toward coming to a peace. We want a peace deal. We want Russia and Ukraine to agree to a deal. We think we're fairly close, and we're going to save a lot of people from being killed. Going to save a lot of money, too. Because we're spending money like -- you know, Europe is spending a third of the money that we're spending.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And it's more important for Europe than it is for us. Biden had no control. He just sent money over there willy-nilly, nobody had any idea what was happening, why they were doing it, why they were sending it. And it was massive amounts of money.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So you think you're close to a deal? What will Russia have to give up? Because Ukraine, there's been discussions they will have to give up some of the land that Russia's illegally claimed.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Russia will have to give up all of Ukraine. Because that's what they want.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
All of Ukraine? Meaning they wouldn't keep any of the land that they have claimed?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No, no. Russia would have to give up all of Ukraine. Because what Russia wants is all of Ukraine. And if I didn't get involved, they would be fighting right now for all of Ukraine. Russia doesn't want the strip that they have now; Russia wants all of Ukraine. And if it weren't me, they would keep going. Do you know that the European Union leaders have asked me to call Putin so many times?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Because he doesn't return their phone call.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You, you, posted on social media he might be "tapping" you along.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Might be.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Did you misread him --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But you might be tapping me along, too, when you tell me how nice an interview this is going to be. So you know, I'm used to being tapped along.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Did you in any way misread Vladimir Putin?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Did I what?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Misread him? Now that you're saying that.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No, I'll tell you about in a month from now, or two weeks from now. I have no idea. I can tell you this, he's -- his ambition was stopped to a large extent when he saw that it was me that was now leading the charge. Because he wasn't dealing with anybody in Europe, he wasn't calling them back. Do you know that I asked him, I said, "Did Biden ever call you in three years?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Did Biden ever call?" He said, "He never called." You know, Biden didn't call him one time? And all these thousands of soldiers, hundreds, millions of soldiers are dying, and people, not only soldiers. People dying in the cities, and the towns, and the whole heritage of that country is being blown apart.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I mean, the country's heritage is being blown apart. You know the steeples, those beautiful spires that you see, you know the most beautiful in the world? Almost 95% of them are laying in smithereens, all broken up and, so sad, laying all over the ground because they were shot. It's really a bad situation.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And he didn't get one phone call from Biden. The war would've never started. And by the way, for four years it didn't start. I was there for four years, it was the apple of his eye. This was the apple of Putin's eye. There was no chance he would have gone in.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
What's the red line for you? At what point do you say, "That's it, we're walking away?"<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, you'll know. I mean, there will be a time when I may say that. And if I do --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
But you're not there?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- there may be something. I can't -- maybe it's not possible to do. There's tremendous hatred, just so you understand. Kristen, we're talking tremendous hatred between these two men and between, you know, some of the soldiers, frankly. Between the generals. They've been fighting hard for three years. I think we have a very good chance of doing it.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Very quickly, if you do walk away, would that mean that you would pull military and intelligence sharing?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't want to say that now. It's too early to say that. I don't want to get into that argument.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay, let's move onto Canada. You have long talked about making Canada the 51st state. There's obviously a new prime minister of Canada, Mark Carney, who you spoke to --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Correct.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- after his victory. He says that you didn't talk to him in that call about making Canada a 51st state.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No. He called me, he was very nice, and I congratulated him. He had a victory. It's a very close victory. You know, there's no majority or anything, so that's going to make things a little bit difficult, I think, for him to run. But he'd nevertheless had a victory. And he's a very nice man, I think.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Do you plan to talk to him about making Canada a 51st state?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
He wants to come and see me. He's going to come this week or next week.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So will you talk to him about making Canada a 51st state, annexing Canada?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I'll always talk about that. You know why? We subsidize Canada to the tune of $200 billion a year. We don't need their cars. In fact, we don't want their cars. We don't need their energy. We don't even want their energy. We have more than they do. We don't want their lumber. We have great lumber. All I have to do is free it up from the environmental lunatics.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
We don't need anything that they have. We're giving them -- I asked, I asked Mr. Trudeau -- who I call Governor Trudeau, not Prime Minister, Governor -- I said, "Governor Trudeau, could I ask you one question? Why are we giving you $200 billion? Why are we subsidizing Canada?" If Canada was a state it wouldn't cost us. It would be great.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It would be such a great -- it would be a cherished state. And, if you look at our map, if you look at the geography -- I'm a real estate guy at heart. When I look down at that without that artificial line that was drawn with a ruler many years ago -- was just an artificial line, goes straight across. You don't even realize.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
What a beautiful country it would be. It would be great. But, I don't think the American public wants me to pay $200 billion a year to subsidize Canada. Again, remember this, we don't need their cars, we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy. We don't need anything. We do very little business with Canada.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
They do all of their business practically with us. They need us. We don't need them.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You and I talked, and I asked you if you would rule out military force to take Greenland. And you said, no, you don't rule out anything. Would you rule out military force to take Canada?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, I think we're not going to ever get to that point. It could happen. Something could happen with Greenland. I'll be honest, we need that for national and international security. But I think --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
But not with Canada?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- it's highly unlikely. I don't see it with Canada. I just don't see it, I have to be honest with you.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay, but you don't rule it out for Greenland?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And by the way, Canada, they spend less money on military than practically any nation in the world. They pay NATO less than any nation. They think we are subsidizing, they think we are going to protect them, and really, we are. But the truth is, they don't carry their full share, and it's unfair to the United States and our taxpayers.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
But you are not ruling out military force to take Greenland one day?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't rule it out. I don't say I'm going to do it, but I don't rule out anything. No, not there. We need Greenland very badly. Greenland is a very small amount of people, which we'll take care of, and we'll cherish them, and all of that. But we need that for international security. Do you know, we have Russian boats and we have Chinese boats, gun ships all over the place -- aircraft carriers, gun ships -- going up and down the coast of Greenland.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
We need that to be protected. Internationally we need it.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So you are willing to send U.S. troops to claim a sovereign territory?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I didn't say that. You asked me a question, "Would you, is there a circumstance?" It could happen. I doubt it will, but it certainly could happen with respect to Greenland.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay. Let me ask you about Iran. Your administration has had conversations with Iran. Is the goal of these talks limiting Iran's nuclear program or total dismantlement?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Total dismantlement.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
That's all you'll accept?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah, that's all I'd accept. Now, there's a new theory going out there that Iran would be allowed to have civilian -- meaning to make electricity and to -- but I say, you know, they have so much oil, what do they need it for? But you know, I've seen it with other states, where they're looking to do something and they have a lot of oil.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Iran has tremendous energy. You know I put sanctions, if you know that, I put pretty strong sanctions on two days ago, on the oil. The sad part is that if Biden didn't get involved, if we had a competent president, you would've never had the attack on Israel. October 7th would've never taken place. Hamas would've had no money.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Because Iran was broke. And now in a period of four years, during the Biden administration, they became very rich. They have over $300 million cash in the bank. And they had no money. They were ready to make a deal with me, and it's very sad. Because of this rigged election they didn't do it. Just another thing you can mark down to a bad election.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
It's interesting what you're saying, though. Because Secretary Rubio has said that he would accept, or the idea is that there is an openness to accepting a peaceful, civil nuclear program.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well that's what people -- I didn't say anything contradictory. I said that people are talking about that. And this is something that's really pretty new in the dialogue. And I'd have to be, you know, my inclination is to say, "What do you need that for? You have a lot of oil."<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So you want total dismantlement, bottom line?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I think that I would be open to hearing it, you know? Civilian energy, it's called. But you know, civilian energy often leads to military wars. And we don't wanna have them have a nuclear weapon. It's a very simple deal. I want Iran to be really successful, really great, really fantastic. The only thing they can't have is a nuclear weapon.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
If they want to be successful, that's okay. I want them to be so successful. And you know, the Iranian people are incredible. I just don't want them to have a nuclear weapon because the world will be destroyed.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Just to recap, we're talking about your desire to claim Canada, Greenland. What do you say to people --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
You forgot the Panama Canal.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Panama Canal. What do you say to people who say they voted for you because they wanted you to end foreign conflicts, not start new ones?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't see that as conflict. I think that's good for our country, those things. Look, the Panama Canal was taken over by China, effectively. Now China seems to have left. But the Panama Canal -- think of this deal. We built the most expensive object we've ever built in the history of our country. That was Mount McKinley, they just took away, I just gave it back the name.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But, McKinley made the money, Teddy Roosevelt spent the money. McKinley takes gets very little credit, you know but you know how he made the money? Through tariffs. He was the big tariff president. Okay, but forget that. We built the Panama Canal. It was the most expensive thing. It would be the equivalent, like, almost $2 trillion today.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
We've never spent there -- and it was very successful. And Jimmy Carter gave it away for $1.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Panama insists they --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
This is the kind of leadership --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Panama says they do control the canal. But we have a couple more questions left, and I'm getting a little wrap.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Panama said what? Panama said what?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Panama says they still control it. I know you're saying China. Panama says they still control it.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
You know, if you would have gone there about 5.2 months ago, every single sign on the Panama Canal, with the exception of about 15% of them, was in Chinese.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Yeah. Let me ask you, because we're nearing the end, just a couple more questions here.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I'm not complaining. You keep saying to me like I'm rushing --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
No, you're not. And I really appreciate it.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't want to rush you. I don't want to make you nervous.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Thank you. The Trump organization is selling hats that say, "Trump 2028."<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Are you seriously considering a third term, Mr. President, even though it's prohibited by the Constitution? Or is this about staying politically viable?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I will say this. So many people want me to do it. I have never had requests so strong as that. But it's something that, to the best of my knowledge, you're not allowed to do. I don't know if that's constitutional that they're not allowing you to do it or anything else. But, there are many people selling the 2028 hat.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But this is not something I'm looking to do. I'm looking to have four great years and turn it over to somebody, ideally a great Republican, a great Republican to carry it forward. But I think we're going to have four years, and I think four years is plenty of time to do something really spectacular.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
The Constitution does prohibit it. Have you -- some of your allies are pretty serious about this, though, Mr. President. And I've spoken to them. They say they are coming up with potential ways, obviously the biggest one would be a constitutional amendment.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
That's because they like the job I'm doing, and it's a compliment. It's really a great compliment.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Has anyone approached you, though, with an actual plan, a way to actually start the process of a constitutional amendment?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, there are ways of doing it. There are ways of doing it. And you know the same thing. And if you look at the vice presidential thing, and you hear different concepts and different other people say, "You can have a write-in vote." There's lots of different things. With all of that being said, I want to be a great president.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I will have served -- hopefully everything will go well. I feel very good. I just did a physical. I took -- unlike all other presidents, I took cognitive tests and I aced it. I got 100% correct. And the doctor, one doctor said -- there were numerous doctors watching. And he said, "I've never seen that before." Biden didn't take a cognitive -- he couldn't have gotten the first question right.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But I came out great with the physical, both physically and mentally. And I just want to serve, do a great job. I'll be an eight-year president, I'll be a two-term president. I always thought that was very important, to be honest with you. You know, if you look at President Polk, he was a one-termer and he did some great things, actually.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Pretty good president. And I'm not saying you can't do that. But, there's something about being a two-term president that was very important to me.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And just to put a button on it, has anyone in an official capacity presented you with, "Sir, here are some ideas by which you could actually get a constitutional amendment?"<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, in a capacity of being a big supporter, many people have said different things --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Okay.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But, I'm not looking at that.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You haven't had official meetings about it?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No. And -- and just so you understand, four years is a long time. I have almost four years. You know, all of these things that we've done, we've done more than any president -- and even you might admit that. Nobody's done the extent of -- of the things that we've done. Nobody's done this, in essentially a little bit more than three months.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
As they say, 100 days. I'm looking to do a great job as president, and set the country on the right track. Because if I didn't win, this country would've failed. We would've been a failed nation.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You have built a political movement that has transformed the Republican Party --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Greatest in history.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
It's transformed the country --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
The greatest --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- quite frankly.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- political movement in history, MAGA.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
When you --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Make America Great Again.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
When you look to the future, Mr. President, do you think the MAGA movement can survive without you as its leader?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yes, I do.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
What gives you confidence?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I think it's so strong. And I think we have tremendous people. I think we have a tremendous group of people. We talked about a number of them. You look at Marco, you look at JD Vance, who's fantastic. You look at -- I could name 10, 15, 20 people right now just sitting here. No, I think we have a tremendous party.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And you know what I can't name? I can't name one Democrat. I mean, I look at the Democrats, they're in total disarray. They have a new person named Crockett. I watched her speak the other day. She's definitely a low IQ person. And they said she's the future of the party. I said, "You have to be kidding." I don't know what they're going to do. And I really believe in a two-party system.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I really -- because it's good to be challenged. It's really good to have a two-party -- you know, it's good. Being challenged is okay. It keeps you sharp. I don't know what they're going to do. They have nobody. Bernie's 87 years old or something. And you know, Biden is the worst thing that ever happened to old people because he was grossly incompetent.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And I think maybe for artificial reasons. You know, he had operations and things. So maybe that's an artificial -- but I know people that are unbelievably sharp and they're older than 87. But I watch Bernie Sanders. He's a nut job, but he's still sharp. He's sharp as -- he's the same guy he was. He hasn't gone down.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But Biden is really -- he's the worst thing to happen to old people.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
I know that you are only 100 days in, but as we sit here today, who do you see as your successor, Mr. President?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, I -- it's far too early to say that. But you know, I do have a vice president, and typically -- and JD's doing a fantastic job. It --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
He would be at the top of the list?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It -- it could very well be -- I -- I don't want to get involved in that. I think he's a fantastic, brilliant guy. Marco is great. There's a lot of them that are great. I -- I also see tremendous unity. But certainly you would say that somebody's the VP, if that person is outstanding, I guess that person would have an advantage.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But I think the other people would all stay in unbelievably high positions. But you know, it could be that he'd be challenged by somebody. We have a lot of good people in this party.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Note
[Kristen Welker conducted an additional 18½ minute walk-and-talk interview with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago in addition to the sit-down interview on May 2, 2025. It was released separately by NBC News.]<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Mr. President, thank you for having us here at Mar-a- --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, thank you.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- Lago. What does Mar-a-Lago mean to you? It's a special place.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It is a special -- there's no place like it. You look no matter where -- it's just -- there's nothing like it. And it's become really the heart of Florida in a way but certainly the heart of Palm Beach, which is an important place. And I just don't think there's anything more beautiful in this country than Mar-a-Lago as, you know, as a physical object.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It's been amazing, and it's been very successful and very special.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
It's the winter White House.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It is. It was built, you know by --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Or it was built, essentially, for that reason.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- E.F. Hutton and Marjorie Merriweather Post. They were married. He was the biggest man on Wall Street, and she was the richest woman in the world actually. And they built it together. And it just -- they picked the best site. They picked the best architects. They had unlimited money, and they built it. Now it's a -- it's a very special place.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And Palm Beach likes me because I saved it. Most of these places were ripped down and 10 or 15 or 20 houses, mansions -- beautiful mansions also but much smaller -- they were built on those sites. And I was able to save this, which is very important.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, and I know that you were just in Michigan.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Right.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You were just talking to folks in Michigan to mark 100 days.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Right.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Do you anticipate doing more travel across the country? And what do you do to stay in touch with the workers who elected you, sir?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, I just went to a great place, University of Alabama, last night. This was some unbelievable evening. And I gave the commencement address, and it's, like, different. Everybody was so awake, so lively, so -- so attractive. And I'm not talking just physically attractive, just there was such an energy in the room.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And it was really nice. You know, I won Alabama by many, many, many points. And they asked me to do it. And they put all of their -- they had nine different, you know, business and law and this and that, all those different things. They put them all -- journalism by the way -- they put them all together, and we were in the big -- that big arena.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And it was tremendous energy. And -- and that's a little bit, you know, to your question, yeah, I think I get out quite a bit. I went to Michigan. I went --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You think you'll do more in these second 100 days?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I think I will. But we're talking about the great, big, beautiful bill, you know, that we're trying to get passed. It'll be the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country, and hopefully it'll get done. And the Democrats are fighting us. And if it doesn't get done, it's going to be a 68% tax increase.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
So that's going to be the Democrats. But I think we're going to have it done. I think the Republicans are going to vote for it. And it'll be the most consequential bill I think in the history of our country.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Leader Thune says he wants to get it done by July 4th.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Do you think that's possible?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I think it is, and I think he's doing a fantastic job. And Mike Johnson, Speaker, is doing a fantastic job, and they're both getting together well. There's great unity in the Republican Party. The Republican Party's a much different party than it was.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
What happens if it comes to your desk, has the tax cuts, but also cuts to Medicaid? Would you veto that?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, we're not doing that. No, we're not --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Would you veto that?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I would if they were cutting it, but they're not cutting it. They're looking at fraud, waste and abuse. And nobody minds that. If illegal immigrants are in the mix, if people that aren't supposed to be there, people that are non-citizens are in the mix, nobody minds that. Waste, fraud and abuse. But we're not cutting Medicaid, we're not cutting Medicare, and we're not cutting Social Security.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
You also unveiled a budget.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Deep cuts in some social services. What do you say to folks who may look at these cuts and say, "It's going to impact education. It could impact people who rely on services for the poor?"<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, from what I understand -- and first of all, the budget is a very preliminary instrument --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Yes.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- and I think that when it's all said and done you're going to see a wonderful budget for everybody, really everybody. I would actually say the middle class probably goes to the fore, and it's about time. But we took care of the middle class during my -- during the original Trump tax cuts we really took care of the middle class.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
The people with the least amount of money actually were the biggest -- and this isn't just the middle class. The least amount of money, the poorest people, proportionately gained the most. And that's what we're looking to do here.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So you're not concerned about it impacting education and other services?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
No. It depends what education. If you're talking about Harvard, which has a --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
No, no, I'm talking about education --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- $53 billion in the bank because of a lot of things that they've been able to do and that the government help them with. That's different. But, no, not education. We're bringing education back to the states.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Let me talk to you about TikTok --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
You know, that's a big thing because education coming back to the states is a very big thing. We're going to bring it back. The United States does not do well with education. We're number 37, 38, 39 and 40 out of 40. And we're going to bring it back to the states and we're going to go to among the top ten I believe.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Let me ask you about TikTok, sir. Would you extend that deadline if there's still no deal? You already --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I would.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- put one extension -- you would?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah, I would.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So, you're going to -- you want to see a deal?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I'd like to see it done. I have a little sweet spot in my heart because, as you know, I won young people by 36 points. That's a lot. No Republican ever won young people, and I won it by 36 points, and I focused on TikTok. So perhaps I shouldn't say this, but I have a little warm spot in my heart for TikTok.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
TikTok is -- it's very interesting, but it'll be protected. It'll be very strongly protected. But if it needs an extension, I would be willing to give it an extension, might not need it.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
But where are discussions? Is it close to a deal?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well we're not --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Is someone close to --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah. Yeah, we --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- purchasing it?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- actually have a deal. We have a group of purchasers, very substantial people. They're going to pay a lot of money. It's a good thing for us. It's a good thing for China. It's going to be, I think, very good. But because of the fact that I've essentially cut off China right now with the tariffs that are so high that they're not going to be able to do much business with the United States.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
But if we make a deal with China I'm sure that'll be a subject, and it'll be a very easy subject to solve.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
We're talking about your agenda, your budget bill, your tax bill, and you think about the next big test, which is the midterms. How do you see your role in the midterms?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I'm going to be very active. I've raised a lot of money for congressmen and senators that I think are good -- really good people. We have some great Republican congressmen and women and senators that love this country, and they're not lunatics like some of these Democrats. What they're doing to the country is incredible.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It's insane. There's something wrong with them. They suffer a major case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. I mean, it doesn't -- nothing matters to them other than that. Yeah, I'm going to be much involved. The interesting thing is -- and nobody can explain why -- but when somebody wins the presidency they seem to lose Congress.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
They seem to lose the House and the Senate or --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
How concerned are you about that?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
I don't know why it would be. I think we should do better. But if you look it's pretty consistent that whoever wins the presidency ends up losing the House, losing the Senate. I think we're going to turn that around. I think we're going to turn it around easy. It should be the opposite. If we do a good job, let's say as president if I do a good job, it should be the opposite.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
So hopefully we'll dispel that.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Well, it looks like you're also looking at the history books.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
How concerned are you about losing one or both chambers?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It's a long way away. It's a long way. You know, we're in here for a little more than three months. We have a long way to go. I've raised a lot of money. We're having a fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago tonight for exactly that purpose. We want to win the House in bigger numbers. But, you know, we had a one majority three months ago.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Now we have seven because we won a few races. I guess you know that. But we won a few races. But we're up seven now, and we're up -- we have 53 senators. And I think we're going to be in very good position. I expect to win by a bigger margin than we have now.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
If you do lose one chamber, are there areas where you think you could find common ground with Democrats?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, there should be, but they seem to be stone cold. Look --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Is there anything --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- the one --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- in your mind though?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
-- thing I will say about the Democrats, they stick together. They have horrible policy. Men in women's sports, transgender for everyone, open borders. The craziest policies I've ever seen. But regardless of how crazy they are, they stick together. And I respect that. I think it's a great thing. And I think the Republicans are starting to do that also.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
So looking forward, sir, one of the big features of your first administration was the first lady. She had her "Be Best" campaign.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Right.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Will people start to see more of her? Will she come back --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- with her "Be Best" campaign, for example? Can you give us a little --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Sure.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- bit of a preview of what we can see?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, as an example, she did a book and she was number one bestseller for a long time, for many, many weeks. The people love her. She's a very private person, which I respect a lot. She doesn't have to be out. I know people where they have wives in politics and the wife wants to be in front of the husband all day long, waving to everybody.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
She's got great confidence in herself and she doesn't need that. But when she goes out. We were out, as you know, last weekend. It was an amazing, amazing day. The people love her. They really respect her, and they love her. Yeah, she'll be very much involved.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And that's part of why I'm asking you. I mean, can people expect to see her revive her "Be Best" campaign? Can you give --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, she is --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
-- us a little preview?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, it's still a campaign that's very important to her, and it's sort of a cute name, "Be Best." I said, "That's a strange name," but it's really beautiful and it sort of, you know, means something now that I didn't understand, lot of people didn't understand. And she's done a great job. She's raised a lot of money.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
She cares a lot about people, really cares a lot about people --<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
When you and I talked in December we talked about the fact that in this second administration your family is not there.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, that was --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And they were really some of your closest advisors --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Sure. Sure.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
What is it like to be there and are they still, I would imagine, your closest advisors?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
They're with me all the way. But I think they were treated very unfairly. Ivanka worked so hard on getting jobs for people. You know, I wanted to make her the head of -- the ambassador to the United Nations. There would be nobody that would be better than her. She said, "Dad, I don't want to do that. I just want to get" -- you know, she worked on getting people jobs.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
It sounds good in one way, but it doesn't sound as exciting as other jobs. And she just wanted to do that. And she got hundreds of thousands of jobs for people. It made her so happy. She's a good person. The way they went after Don and Eric, I said, "Just relax," because I thought it was unfair. They went after these kids, and they're really good.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
And they're no longer kids, but they're always going to be my kids.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Yeah.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
They were treated so unfairly.<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Barron's in college now. How is he liking college?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Right.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
How's he doing?<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
He's a great student. He's doing very well, goes to a great school. But he's doing really well.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And is there any challenge being in college, having your dad as president of the United States?<end_of_turn>
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<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Well, you'll have to ask him someday that, but we try and make it as normal as possible. There's nothing normal about it. But he's a very great guy and wonderful kid.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
Your birthday's coming up.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah.<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Kristen Welker
And there are reports that you're looking into the possibility of a military --<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>Donald Trump
Yeah --<end_of_turn>
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