<p>The are few reasons that we might be observing differences in the reported values.
This is one of few reasons that I was able to spot, but I believe there are many more</p>
<ol>
<li>In the data from Polish Statistics Officce(GUS) they define</li>
</ol>
<blockquote>
<p>Unemployed person</p>
<p>Person aged 18 and more and has not reached the retirement age, is not
employed and not performing any other kind of paid work, capable of
work and ready to take full-time employment (or in case he/she is a
disabled person— capable and ready to take work comprising no less
than a half of working time)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>While in the Eurostat, there are some filter that you need to choose such as sex, age. Default age in your selection is 15-74. Here we have 2 issues, the starting age and ending age will not be the same. In addition, the retirement age for Male and Female are different in Poland and it does not seem like the Eurostat data is controlling for that.</p>
<p>I would recommend reading the detailed exploratory data from <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/metadata/en/lfsi_esms.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Eurostat</a> and <a href="https://stat.gov.pl/en/topics/labour-market/registered-unemployment/registered-unemployed-persons-and-unemployment-rate-adjusted-seasonally-in-2011-2021,4,1.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Polish Statistical Office</a> for more details on methodology.</p>

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Thanks Macosso

The table from the Polish gvt states that registered unemployed are:
"The percentage of registered unemployed persons to the economically active civilian population." But with no specific age definitions.
I suppose I can assume that registered unemployed are also all those >18  and <Polish retirement age 

If the Polish retirement age is less than 74, then I would expect registered numbers should be lower than the Eurostat 15-74 numbers, since it is a smaller population.
Studi
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Yes, that is correct. I am happy my answer was helpful
Macosso
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Macosso
<p>I have noticed that in Poland the rate of registered unemployed is higher than the &quot;unemployement&quot; rate.
Here are the stats from the Polish regime (by month):
<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/qviBY.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qviBY.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
<p>Source: <a href="https://stat.gov.pl/en/topics/labour-market/registered-unemployment/registered-unemployed-persons-and-unemployment-rate-adjusted-seasonally-in-2011-2021,4,1.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://stat.gov.pl/en/topics/labour-market/registered-unemployment/registered-unemployed-persons-and-unemployment-rate-adjusted-seasonally-in-2011-2021,4,1.html</a></p>
<p>On the otherhand we have Eurostat, which is as far as I know, using ILO definition
Here:
<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/lJPLY.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/lJPLY.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
<p><a href="https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/une_rt_a_h/default/table?lang=en" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/une_rt_a_h/default/table?lang=en</a></p>
<p>So any ideas what the story is?
Is it possible to sign on in Poland and still work?
Is there a way of answering the ILO that means you are in employment but still registered unemployed?
(Not worked in reference period and ready to work at short notice and have looked for a job during the reference period - if I remember correctly!)
There's massive scale cheating of the Polish benefits system?
The Polish goverment has made a huge mistake in their statistics?</p>
<p>Other countries that I have looked at tend to have registered unemployed as less than ILO unemployed. Which makes more sense to me.</p>
<p>Any thoughts and input would be most gratefully received.</p>

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Unemployment data - registered unemployed > ILO defined unemplyment
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# Unemployment data - registered unemployed > ILO defined unemplyment

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-11-26)

I have noticed that in Poland the rate of registered unemployed is higher than the "unemployement" rate.
Here are the stats from the Polish regime (by month):
[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/qviBY.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/qviBY.png)

Source: <https://stat.gov.pl/en/topics/labour-market/registered-unemployment/registered-unemployed-persons-and-unemployment-rate-adjusted-seasonally-in-2011-2021,4,1.html>

On the otherhand we have Eurostat, which is as far as I know, using ILO definition
Here:
[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/lJPLY.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/lJPLY.png)

<https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/une_rt_a_h/default/table?lang=en>

So any ideas what the story is?
Is it possible to sign on in Poland and still work?
Is there a way of answering the ILO that means you are in employment but still registered unemployed?
(Not worked in reference period and ready to work at short notice and have looked for a job during the reference period - if I remember correctly!)
There's massive scale cheating of the Polish benefits system?
The Polish goverment has made a huge mistake in their statistics?

Other countries that I have looked at tend to have registered unemployed as less than ILO unemployed. Which makes more sense to me.

Any thoughts and input would be most gratefully received.

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2021-11-26. Score: 0

The are few reasons that we might be observing differences in the reported values.
This is one of few reasons that I was able to spot, but I believe there are many more

1. In the data from Polish Statistics Officce(GUS) they define

> Unemployed person
>
> Person aged 18 and more and has not reached the retirement age, is not
> employed and not performing any other kind of paid work, capable of
> work and ready to take full-time employment (or in case he/she is a
> disabled person— capable and ready to take work comprising no less
> than a half of working time)

While in the Eurostat, there are some filter that you need to choose such as sex, age. Default age in your selection is 15-74. Here we have 2 issues, the starting age and ending age will not be the same. In addition, the retirement age for Male and Female are different in Poland and it does not seem like the Eurostat data is controlling for that.

I would recommend reading the detailed exploratory data from [Eurostat](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/metadata/en/lfsi_esms.htm) and [Polish Statistical Office](https://stat.gov.pl/en/topics/labour-market/registered-unemployment/registered-unemployed-persons-and-unemployment-rate-adjusted-seasonally-in-2011-2021,4,1.html) for more details on methodology.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thanks Macosso  The table from the Polish gvt states that registered unemployed are: "The percentage of registered unemployed persons to the economically active civilian population." But with no specific age definitions. I suppose I can assume that registered unemployed are also all those >18  and <Polish retirement age   If the Polish retirement age is less than 74, then I would expect registered numbers should be lower than the Eurostat 15-74 numbers, since it is a smaller population.  
> **username_1**: Yes, that is correct. I am happy my answer was helpful  

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