<p>The description given implies to me that you want to net the debt holdings between governments only. For example, we would subtract the Chinese government's holdings of U.S. Treasury securities from Chinese debt (and so forth).</p>

<p>I am unaware of any such statistics. For the developed countries, the amount of cross-governmental debt holdings is minimal (excluding the ambiguous situation of the European Central Bank). Therefore, such an adjustment would only matter for some developed countries. (The ratio of governmental debt to reserves - which are holdings of developed country debt - is probably looked at by ratings agencies and analysts of developing countries.)</p>

<p>A more usual statistic is the net international position, which compares national holdings of foreign assets versus foreign holding of domestic assets. However, this mixes all form of financial assets (debt and equity) and includes both the private sector. The IMF has a standard for reporting the international investment position - <a href="http://dsbb.imf.org/Pages/SDDS/InterInvPos.aspx" rel="nofollow noreferrer">link to page</a></p>

<p>The usefulness of such statistics enters the realm of opinion. The main usage of the net international position seems to be the assessment of the odds of a currency crisis; I am unaware of the literature on that subject.</p>

<p>As for debt statistics, things like the debt-to-GDP ratio have been greatly discussed. However, I am in the camp that argues that the main "use" of debt statistics has been to generate incorrect forecasts (such as the sustainability of Japanese debt). In general, the link between debt levels and bond yields for the developed countries is questionable, which indicates that bond investors are not greatly impressed by the importance of debt statistics.</p>

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<p>The media loves to tout big debt figures whenever there is an economic crisis, but unless we know who owes money to who, it seems to me that these figures are useless since debt is all relative.  I know that economic policies are changing all the time, so the figures could shift, and that different states are paying their public debts at different interest rates. Therefore, looking at what I will call "collapsed external debt" is a gross oversimplification- but nonetheless I think this would be a useful heuristic figure when seeing who comes out on top today after all is said and done(although that would never actually happen).</p>

<p>If this figure does not exist or would not be useful in any way, then why not?</p>

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Is there a statistic that shows which countries would be owed money if all external public debts were payed immediately?
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# Is there a statistic that shows which countries would be owed money if all external public debts were payed immediately?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-07-25)

The media loves to tout big debt figures whenever there is an economic crisis, but unless we know who owes money to who, it seems to me that these figures are useless since debt is all relative. I know that economic policies are changing all the time, so the figures could shift, and that different states are paying their public debts at different interest rates. Therefore, looking at what I will call "collapsed external debt" is a gross oversimplification- but nonetheless I think this would be a useful heuristic figure when seeing who comes out on top today after all is said and done(although that would never actually happen).

If this figure does not exist or would not be useful in any way, then why not?

**Tags:** macroeconomics, statistics, debt

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### Answer by username_1 on 2017-07-27. Score: 1

The description given implies to me that you want to net the debt holdings between governments only. For example, we would subtract the Chinese government's holdings of U.S. Treasury securities from Chinese debt (and so forth).

I am unaware of any such statistics. For the developed countries, the amount of cross-governmental debt holdings is minimal (excluding the ambiguous situation of the European Central Bank). Therefore, such an adjustment would only matter for some developed countries. (The ratio of governmental debt to reserves - which are holdings of developed country debt - is probably looked at by ratings agencies and analysts of developing countries.)

A more usual statistic is the net international position, which compares national holdings of foreign assets versus foreign holding of domestic assets. However, this mixes all form of financial assets (debt and equity) and includes both the private sector. The IMF has a standard for reporting the international investment position - [link to page](http://dsbb.imf.org/Pages/SDDS/InterInvPos.aspx)

The usefulness of such statistics enters the realm of opinion. The main usage of the net international position seems to be the assessment of the odds of a currency crisis; I am unaware of the literature on that subject.

As for debt statistics, things like the debt-to-GDP ratio have been greatly discussed. However, I am in the camp that argues that the main "use" of debt statistics has been to generate incorrect forecasts (such as the sustainability of Japanese debt). In general, the link between debt levels and bond yields for the developed countries is questionable, which indicates that bond investors are not greatly impressed by the importance of debt statistics.


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