<p>If the stock is valued by discounting the future cash flow, a higher interest rate will yield a lower stock valuation. Also a higher interest rate makes the bond more attractive thus some people will sell stocks and buy bonds, which will push down the stock prices. From intuition, I don't see the stock and interest rate are uncorrelated.</p>
<p>Under the current market condition, it makes perfect sense to buy short-term t-bills and hold to maturity to collect the ~4% interest. Just make sure not to buy bond ETFs, as the bonds within the ETF will roll over and you will consistently loose money as the FED continues to raise interest rate.</p>

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<p><strong>Q1: Is the data correct(are they really uncorrelated)?</strong></p>
<p>What sort of google scholar search did you do? Generally research suggests there is a relationship between interest rates and stock returns, so your search was not correct/representative.</p>
<p>Citing from recent cross-country study published in decent journal by <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0148619516300546?casa_token=hnRtlo2RVd4AAAAA:h2tqgMbPAYLg2vtQpAb0VNtyuDxvgDGzZcmKDuubfP4S-caHBAb3QgNuwNUeewEG2ZZQPyVchuGz" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Assefa et al (2017)</a> that analyzed the relationship between interest rates and stock returns around the world [emphasis mine]:</p>
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<p><strong>Using dynamic panels, we find statistically significant negative effects of interest rates on stock returns in the developed countries, consistent with the expected cash flow hypothesis.</strong> In the developing markets, however, the world market portfolio is the sole determinant of stock returns. The contrasting effect of interest rates change on stock returns can be partially attributed to differing monetary policies and to the more mature capital markets inherent in developed economies.</p>
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<p>This is by no means only study that finds there is correlation between the two. There might be studies that show they are weakly related in some special periods but over long term and cross-country there is clear significant relationship.</p>
<p><strong>Q2: Are there any consensus, or at least a good theory, on why this happens?</strong></p>
<p>As explained above there is generally consensus that interest rate and stock returns are related. Given the answer in 1 this is moot point.</p>
<p><strong>Q3: Real life implications - as a retail investor with pretty strong faith in EMH, is it rational for me to move my money from stock market to bank account because the interest rate went up?</strong></p>
<p>This site is not for investment advice any financial advice here is strictly off topic. This being said I suppose the question can be slightly change as asking what a rational agent within a model would do which would be on topic.</p>
<p>Within economic model of a rational risk-neutral representative agent if there are two different assets (e.g. stock <span class="math-container">$A_s$</span> with expected return <span class="math-container">$r_s$</span> and savings account <span class="math-container">$A_a$</span> with expected return <span class="math-container">$r_a$</span>) then all else equal if <span class="math-container">$r_a&gt; r_s$</span> the rational agent would only use <span class="math-container">$A_a$</span> for saving and if <span class="math-container">$r_a &lt; r_s$</span> they would only use <span class="math-container">$A_s$</span> (as long as <span class="math-container">$r_a$</span> and <span class="math-container">$r_s$</span> are fixed as endogenizing them would lead to the closure of such arbitrage opportunity).</p>
<p>If a rational agent is risk averse and <span class="math-container">$r_a&gt; r_s$</span>  they would still only use <span class="math-container">$A_a$</span> (since saving account should be less risky), and if <span class="math-container">$r_a &lt; r_s$</span> an agent might want to get some stocks depending on the parameters (risk aversion, by how much more <span class="math-container">$r_s$</span> exceeds <span class="math-container">$r_a$</span>).</p>
<p>If a rational agent is risk loving and <span class="math-container">$r_a&gt; r_s$</span> agent might still prefer some stocks (depending on coefficient of risk aversion and relative sizes of <span class="math-container">$r$</span>). If <span class="math-container">$r_a&lt;r_s$</span> a risk loving rational agent would always just get the stock.</p>

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I must be misunderstanding something. If risk-free rate is high but expected return from stocks are low, anyone can easily beat the market (in expectations) just by putting their money in a saving account? That doesn't sound right at all.
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By the way I searched it again and what I found was similar to your answer. I swear I read the paper somewhere, but I'm unable to find it right now.
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@ssamtkwon those are hypothetical covering all cases, I am not claiming its realistic to have expected stock returns lower than expected returns on time deposits. Also if you read my answers $r_i$ is the expected rate.
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<p>The reason raw data on stock returns and interest rates might appear uncorrelated is because they’re endogenously determined — the correlation isn’t indicative of the causal effect of interest rates on stock returns but of an amalgam of factors simultaneously driving both stock returns and interest rates (eg, macro conditions, liquidity, sentiment, etc).</p>
<p>It’s difficult to isolate exogenous variation in interest rates to identify the effect of interest rates on stock returns but progress has been made on this front. See for example Bernanke and Kuttner (2005) with 3000+ citations (there are many other papers on this topic too). The authors attempt to isolate the unanticipated component of Fed Funds rate changes, and find that a 25bp increase in the Fed Funds rate lowers equity indices by 1%.</p>
<p>The larger proportional decline in equity prices per 25bp increase in interest rates is consistent with additive effects of the risk-free rate’s direct impact on expected equity returns (expected returns increase when interest rates increase) and also the indirect impact of the risk-free rate change on risk premium (risk premiums have been shown to increase when interest rates increase).</p>
<p>Link to the paper: <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1540-6261.2005.00760.x" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1540-6261.2005.00760.x</a></p>

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<p>Since expected return of stock is risk-free rate plus risk premium, intuitively they should be correlated. Of course the size of risk premium is not constant, but it's hard to imagine why risk premium would move in a way that almost exactly cancels out the change in interest rate.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ol>
<li>Is the data correct(are they really uncorrelated)? Searching google scholar suggests so, but this is pretty hard to believe so I wouldn't be surprised if I was missing something important.</li>
<li>Are there any consensus, or at least a good theory, on why this happens?</li>
<li>Real life implications - as a retail investor with pretty strong faith in EMH, is it rational for me to move my money from stock market to bank account because the interest rate went up?</li>
</ol>

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Why do stock returns seem to be uncorrelated with interest rate?
ssamtkwon
# Why do stock returns seem to be uncorrelated with interest rate?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-08-07)

Since expected return of stock is risk-free rate plus risk premium, intuitively they should be correlated. Of course the size of risk premium is not constant, but it's hard to imagine why risk premium would move in a way that almost exactly cancels out the change in interest rate.

Questions:

1. Is the data correct(are they really uncorrelated)? Searching google scholar suggests so, but this is pretty hard to believe so I wouldn't be surprised if I was missing something important.
2. Are there any consensus, or at least a good theory, on why this happens?
3. Real life implications - as a retail investor with pretty strong faith in EMH, is it rational for me to move my money from stock market to bank account because the interest rate went up?

**Tags:** interest-rate, stock-market, efficient-markets, portfolio-theory

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2022-12-02. Score: 0

If the stock is valued by discounting the future cash flow, a higher interest rate will yield a lower stock valuation. Also a higher interest rate makes the bond more attractive thus some people will sell stocks and buy bonds, which will push down the stock prices. From intuition, I don't see the stock and interest rate are uncorrelated.

Under the current market condition, it makes perfect sense to buy short-term t-bills and hold to maturity to collect the ~4% interest. Just make sure not to buy bond ETFs, as the bonds within the ETF will roll over and you will consistently loose money as the FED continues to raise interest rate.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2023-01-02. Score: 0

**Q1: Is the data correct(are they really uncorrelated)?**

What sort of google scholar search did you do? Generally research suggests there is a relationship between interest rates and stock returns, so your search was not correct/representative.

Citing from recent cross-country study published in decent journal by [Assefa et al (2017)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0148619516300546?casa_token=hnRtlo2RVd4AAAAA:h2tqgMbPAYLg2vtQpAb0VNtyuDxvgDGzZcmKDuubfP4S-caHBAb3QgNuwNUeewEG2ZZQPyVchuGz) that analyzed the relationship between interest rates and stock returns around the world [emphasis mine]:

> **Using dynamic panels, we find statistically significant negative effects of interest rates on stock returns in the developed countries, consistent with the expected cash flow hypothesis.** In the developing markets, however, the world market portfolio is the sole determinant of stock returns. The contrasting effect of interest rates change on stock returns can be partially attributed to differing monetary policies and to the more mature capital markets inherent in developed economies.

This is by no means only study that finds there is correlation between the two. There might be studies that show they are weakly related in some special periods but over long term and cross-country there is clear significant relationship.

**Q2: Are there any consensus, or at least a good theory, on why this happens?**

As explained above there is generally consensus that interest rate and stock returns are related. Given the answer in 1 this is moot point.

**Q3: Real life implications - as a retail investor with pretty strong faith in EMH, is it rational for me to move my money from stock market to bank account because the interest rate went up?**

This site is not for investment advice any financial advice here is strictly off topic. This being said I suppose the question can be slightly change as asking what a rational agent within a model would do which would be on topic.

Within economic model of a rational risk-neutral representative agent if there are two different assets (e.g. stock $A\_s$ with expected return $r\_s$ and savings account $A\_a$ with expected return $r\_a$) then all else equal if $r\_a> r\_s$ the rational agent would only use $A\_a$ for saving and if $r\_a < r\_s$ they would only use $A\_s$ (as long as $r\_a$ and $r\_s$ are fixed as endogenizing them would lead to the closure of such arbitrage opportunity).

If a rational agent is risk averse and $r\_a> r\_s$ they would still only use $A\_a$ (since saving account should be less risky), and if $r\_a < r\_s$ an agent might want to get some stocks depending on the parameters (risk aversion, by how much more $r\_s$ exceeds $r\_a$).

If a rational agent is risk loving and $r\_a> r\_s$ agent might still prefer some stocks (depending on coefficient of risk aversion and relative sizes of $r$). If $r\_a a risk loving rational agent would always just get the stock.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I must be misunderstanding something. If risk-free rate is high but expected return from stocks are low, anyone can easily beat the market (in expectations) just by putting their money in a saving account? That doesn't sound right at all.  
> **username_0**: By the way I searched it again and what I found was similar to your answer. I swear I read the paper somewhere, but I'm unable to find it right now.  
> **username_2**: @ssamtkwon those are hypothetical covering all cases, I am not claiming its realistic to have expected stock returns lower than expected returns on time deposits. Also if you read my answers $r_i$ is the expected rate.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2024-05-26. Score: 0

The reason raw data on stock returns and interest rates might appear uncorrelated is because they’re endogenously determined — the correlation isn’t indicative of the causal effect of interest rates on stock returns but of an amalgam of factors simultaneously driving both stock returns and interest rates (eg, macro conditions, liquidity, sentiment, etc).

It’s difficult to isolate exogenous variation in interest rates to identify the effect of interest rates on stock returns but progress has been made on this front. See for example Bernanke and Kuttner (2005) with 3000+ citations (there are many other papers on this topic too). The authors attempt to isolate the unanticipated component of Fed Funds rate changes, and find that a 25bp increase in the Fed Funds rate lowers equity indices by 1%.

The larger proportional decline in equity prices per 25bp increase in interest rates is consistent with additive effects of the risk-free rate’s direct impact on expected equity returns (expected returns increase when interest rates increase) and also the indirect impact of the risk-free rate change on risk premium (risk premiums have been shown to increase when interest rates increase).

Link to the paper: <https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1540-6261.2005.00760.x>


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