<p>Nudge: <br>
Read the paper <a href="https://www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/ppwalsh/papers/daspremont.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">On Hotelling's &quot;Stability in Competition&quot;</a> by d'Aspremont, Gabszewicz and Thisse.</p>

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Giskard
<p>Q. There are a 1000 costumers uniformly distributed on [0,3]. Each wants to buy 1 ice-cream. There are two firms which produce ice-cream costlessly and firm i charges p_i. Consumer's effective price is p_i+td where t is the transportation cost and d is the distance between the firm and the consumer. To show that there is a unique Nah equilibrium when firms are on 0th and 3th mark and no nash equilibrium when they are on 1th and 2th mark.</p>
<p>My attempt:
I have shown that there is a unique Nash equilibrium in the first case. Each firm sells at 3t price and each faces a demand of 500.</p>
<p>For the second part I have shown that in equilibrium the prices will be necessarily equal. But then I am again getting that each firm will face a demand of 500. I thought I could show that there will exist a small epsilon such that when a firm cuts their prices by epsilon they will be able to increase their profits. It did not work. My reasoning was that between 1 and 2 there are around 333 consumers which cannot be equally divided and if some firm cuts their prices a little they will be able to attract the odd consumer. I am, however, not able to do this mathematically.</p>
<p>Working of &quot; I thought I could show that there will exist a small epsilon such that when a firm cuts their prices by epsilon they will be able to increase their profits. It did not work.&quot;</p>
<p>I was able to show that in equilibrium the prices will be equal. Given that, I found that the consumer at the 1.5th mark is indifferent b/w buying from firm1 and firm2. Therefore, the demand that each firm faces is 500, and each makes a profit of 500p or 1500t (p will be 3t). Now suppose that firm1 cuts their prices by some epsilon. Now the agent at (1.5 +epsilon/2t)th mark is indifferent. Firm1 now faces a demand of (500 + 500 epsilon/3t). Profit of firm1 then is (p-epsilon)[demand]. I tried to find for which epsilon will this be &gt; 500p (original profits). I am getting that this will hold for epsilon&lt;p-3t = 0, which contradicts epsilon being strictly greater than 0.</p>
<p>I am not able to understand or see how the second case is differnt from the first one.</p>
<p>I am not looking for an answer, just a little nudge.</p>

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Unfortunately "*My reasoning was that between 1 and 2 there are around 333 consumers which cannot be equally divided and if some firm cuts their prices a little they will be able to attract the odd consumer.*" is very poor reasoning. Assume that there are $1000/3$ customers in the interval $[1,2]$, most of these models are continuous.
Giskard
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Can you please edit your question so that it includes the calculations for this part: "*I thought I could show that there will exist a small epsilon such that when a firm cuts their prices by epsilon they will be able to increase their profits.*"
Giskard
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I understand that most of these models are continuous, but in my understanding, this particular one is not. Since, there are a discrete number of consumers. Am I interpreting it incorrectly?
Pc1
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There is no way for me to know that. Nothing you wrote in the Q suggests that the number of consumers is discrete.
Giskard
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There are exactly 1000 consumers distributed uniformly b/w [0,3].
Pc1
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Where are you getting non-continuous from this?
Giskard
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Bertrand competition with homogenous good and Hotelling's spatial model
Pc1
# Bertrand competition with homogenous good and Hotelling's spatial model

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-10-04)

Q. There are a 1000 costumers uniformly distributed on [0,3]. Each wants to buy 1 ice-cream. There are two firms which produce ice-cream costlessly and firm i charges p\_i. Consumer's effective price is p\_i+td where t is the transportation cost and d is the distance between the firm and the consumer. To show that there is a unique Nah equilibrium when firms are on 0th and 3th mark and no nash equilibrium when they are on 1th and 2th mark.

My attempt:
I have shown that there is a unique Nash equilibrium in the first case. Each firm sells at 3t price and each faces a demand of 500.

For the second part I have shown that in equilibrium the prices will be necessarily equal. But then I am again getting that each firm will face a demand of 500. I thought I could show that there will exist a small epsilon such that when a firm cuts their prices by epsilon they will be able to increase their profits. It did not work. My reasoning was that between 1 and 2 there are around 333 consumers which cannot be equally divided and if some firm cuts their prices a little they will be able to attract the odd consumer. I am, however, not able to do this mathematically.

Working of " I thought I could show that there will exist a small epsilon such that when a firm cuts their prices by epsilon they will be able to increase their profits. It did not work."

I was able to show that in equilibrium the prices will be equal. Given that, I found that the consumer at the 1.5th mark is indifferent b/w buying from firm1 and firm2. Therefore, the demand that each firm faces is 500, and each makes a profit of 500p or 1500t (p will be 3t). Now suppose that firm1 cuts their prices by some epsilon. Now the agent at (1.5 +epsilon/2t)th mark is indifferent. Firm1 now faces a demand of (500 + 500 epsilon/3t). Profit of firm1 then is (p-epsilon)[demand]. I tried to find for which epsilon will this be > 500p (original profits). I am getting that this will hold for epsilon

I am not able to understand or see how the second case is differnt from the first one.

I am not looking for an answer, just a little nudge.

**Tags:** game-theory, nash-equilibrium, industrial-organisation
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Unfortunately "*My reasoning was that between 1 and 2 there are around 333 consumers which cannot be equally divided and if some firm cuts their prices a little they will be able to attract the odd consumer.*" is very poor reasoning. Assume that there are $1000/3$ customers in the interval $[1,2]$, most of these models are continuous.  
> **username_1**: Can you please edit your question so that it includes the calculations for this part: "*I thought I could show that there will exist a small epsilon such that when a firm cuts their prices by epsilon they will be able to increase their profits.*"  
> **username_0**: I understand that most of these models are continuous, but in my understanding, this particular one is not. Since, there are a discrete number of consumers. Am I interpreting it incorrectly?  
> **username_1**: There is no way for me to know that. Nothing you wrote in the Q suggests that the number of consumers is discrete.  
> **username_0**: There are exactly 1000 consumers distributed uniformly b/w [0,3].  
> **username_1**: Where are you getting non-continuous from this?  

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### Answer by username_1 on 2021-10-04. Score: 2

Nudge:   
Read the paper [On Hotelling's "Stability in Competition"](https://www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/ppwalsh/papers/daspremont.pdf) by d'Aspremont, Gabszewicz and Thisse.


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