<p>Suppose that Alice buys a house from Bob for a price of 200 troy ounces of gold (which is about average for the present-day US), and assume that she is able to make a single lump-sum payment.  There are several ways that this could be done.</p>
<h2>Physical gold</h2>
<p>The weight (13.71 lb, 6.22 kg) and volume (19.7 in³, 322 cm³, less than a standard soft drink can) of the gold could plausibly fit in a handbag or backpack.  Gold is a nicely compact way to store monetary value, and it would require a <em>huge</em> purchase before the logistics of transporting it become seriously difficult.</p>
<p>Still, Alice might not feel comfortable walking through town with a bag full of gold, so let's consider other options.</p>
<h2>Paper money (backed by gold)</h2>
<p>The United States issued <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_certificate_(United_States)" rel="nofollow noreferrer">gold certificates</a> from 1865 to 1933, with the Treasury responsible for physically storing the gold.  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_denominations_of_United_States_currency" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Denominations as high as \$10,000</a> (500 oz) were put into circulation, specifically to allow banks and the federal government to settle large transactions.  The notes were “as good as gold”, since anyone could redeem the certificates for physical gold coins whenever they wanted to.</p>
<p>Banknotes were technically an option before the Civil War, but a much less convenient one, because <a href="https://daily.jstor.org/banks-own-private-currencies-in-19th-century-america/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">they were issued by individual private-sector banks</a>.  Merchants relied on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_note_reporter" rel="nofollow noreferrer">bank note reporters</a> to help determine whether to accept a particular bank's notes, based on the frequency at which that bank's notes were counterfeited, and the financial solvency of the bank.</p>
<h2>Personal check, and the banking system</h2>
<p>Alternatively, Alice could write a check to Bob.  If the two happen to have accounts at the same local bank, then the transfer of gold/money ownership is a simple matter of bookkeeping.  If not, then Bob's bank would have to send the check back to Alice's bank for payment.  Since we're assuming a pre-1933 banking system with no modern electronic conveniences, this means physically mailing the check.  And Alice's bank would then have to send the money to Bob's bank.  And then we're back to our original problem of how to transport the money, except that now it's between banks instead of individuals.</p>
<p>Fortunately, there are a couple of shortcuts that can be used.  One is that if Bob's bank happens to have customers that need to pay money to Alice's bank, then the payments will cancel out; only the <em>net</em> imbalance of payments between the two banks needs to be settled.</p>
<p>Also, it's possible for two <em>banks</em> to have accounts at a third bank, called a <a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/correspondent-bank.asp" rel="nofollow noreferrer">correspondent bank</a>.  In this case, the transfer becomes a simple internal bookkeeping matter at the correspondent bank, with no physical transport of gold.  If you expand the correspondent bank hierarchy to the point where every bank in the country is served (directly or indirectly) by a single “bank of banks”, then you get what's called a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank" rel="nofollow noreferrer">central bank</a>.  In the United States, the Federal Reserve System has served as the national central bank since 1913, though <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_central_banking_in_the_United_States" rel="nofollow noreferrer">earlier attempts at central banking</a> had been tried.</p>
<p>But in times with a more decentralized banking system, such as the 1837-1862 “free banking” era with no national central bank, no unified paper currency, and no banking across state lines — shipments of physical gold between banks were indeed needed more often.  In this era, which coincided with the great western expansion of the US (annexation of Texas, Mexican-American War, Oregon Trail, California Gold Rush), gold would routinely be shipped between banks on stagecoaches.  And people would attempt to <em>rob</em> these stagecoaches, thus giving something for Hollywood Westerns to portray a century later.</p>

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It is interesting about the "virtual" transfer of funds in the situation u described. I imagine this was much less common prior to telegraphy and also without computers, I am sure many opportunities to do this non-physical transfer were overlooked. Even in modern times, some financial institutions did not have a way to know when a company which had gone bankrupt owed them money and paid the bankrupt co. money even though they would never see the bankrupt's money.
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<p>I got the impression that the purchase of Alaska from Russia required at some point what would have been at 20 bucks/ounce (I think gold was at one point much less than 20) 350k ounces or roughly 10 tons of gold to Russia. If this is so, the expense of moving that much gold would have been very significant -- not just normal freight but cost of security, etc.</p>
<p>Did it ever become normal for banks to simply shift ownership between parties without moving gold out of its vaults?</p>
<p>And for large but lesser transactions, like buying a ship or a mansion, did that require someone carting, say, 1000 pounds of gold between banks?</p>

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Isn't this more of a [history.se] question?
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@Giskard technically it could be probably passed for economic history although i think it’s one of the questions that would be on the border even if that subfield since it focuses so heavily only on the technical aspects of gold standard
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# Gold Standard: Settling Up -- how were large transactions handled between companies?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-05-27)

I got the impression that the purchase of Alaska from Russia required at some point what would have been at 20 bucks/ounce (I think gold was at one point much less than 20) 350k ounces or roughly 10 tons of gold to Russia. If this is so, the expense of moving that much gold would have been very significant -- not just normal freight but cost of security, etc.

Did it ever become normal for banks to simply shift ownership between parties without moving gold out of its vaults?

And for large but lesser transactions, like buying a ship or a mansion, did that require someone carting, say, 1000 pounds of gold between banks?

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Isn't this more of a [history.se] question?  
> **username_2**: @Giskard technically it could be probably passed for economic history although i think it’s one of the questions that would be on the border even if that subfield since it focuses so heavily only on the technical aspects of gold standard  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2023-04-28. Score: 1

Suppose that Alice buys a house from Bob for a price of 200 troy ounces of gold (which is about average for the present-day US), and assume that she is able to make a single lump-sum payment. There are several ways that this could be done.

## Physical gold

The weight (13.71 lb, 6.22 kg) and volume (19.7 in³, 322 cm³, less than a standard soft drink can) of the gold could plausibly fit in a handbag or backpack. Gold is a nicely compact way to store monetary value, and it would require a *huge* purchase before the logistics of transporting it become seriously difficult.

Still, Alice might not feel comfortable walking through town with a bag full of gold, so let's consider other options.

## Paper money (backed by gold)

The United States issued [gold certificates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_certificate_(United_States)) from 1865 to 1933, with the Treasury responsible for physically storing the gold. [Denominations as high as \$10,000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_denominations_of_United_States_currency) (500 oz) were put into circulation, specifically to allow banks and the federal government to settle large transactions. The notes were “as good as gold”, since anyone could redeem the certificates for physical gold coins whenever they wanted to.

Banknotes were technically an option before the Civil War, but a much less convenient one, because [they were issued by individual private-sector banks](https://daily.jstor.org/banks-own-private-currencies-in-19th-century-america/). Merchants relied on [bank note reporters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_note_reporter) to help determine whether to accept a particular bank's notes, based on the frequency at which that bank's notes were counterfeited, and the financial solvency of the bank.

## Personal check, and the banking system

Alternatively, Alice could write a check to Bob. If the two happen to have accounts at the same local bank, then the transfer of gold/money ownership is a simple matter of bookkeeping. If not, then Bob's bank would have to send the check back to Alice's bank for payment. Since we're assuming a pre-1933 banking system with no modern electronic conveniences, this means physically mailing the check. And Alice's bank would then have to send the money to Bob's bank. And then we're back to our original problem of how to transport the money, except that now it's between banks instead of individuals.

Fortunately, there are a couple of shortcuts that can be used. One is that if Bob's bank happens to have customers that need to pay money to Alice's bank, then the payments will cancel out; only the *net* imbalance of payments between the two banks needs to be settled.

Also, it's possible for two *banks* to have accounts at a third bank, called a [correspondent bank](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/correspondent-bank.asp). In this case, the transfer becomes a simple internal bookkeeping matter at the correspondent bank, with no physical transport of gold. If you expand the correspondent bank hierarchy to the point where every bank in the country is served (directly or indirectly) by a single “bank of banks”, then you get what's called a [central bank](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank). In the United States, the Federal Reserve System has served as the national central bank since 1913, though [earlier attempts at central banking](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_central_banking_in_the_United_States) had been tried.

But in times with a more decentralized banking system, such as the 1837-1862 “free banking” era with no national central bank, no unified paper currency, and no banking across state lines — shipments of physical gold between banks were indeed needed more often. In this era, which coincided with the great western expansion of the US (annexation of Texas, Mexican-American War, Oregon Trail, California Gold Rush), gold would routinely be shipped between banks on stagecoaches. And people would attempt to *rob* these stagecoaches, thus giving something for Hollywood Westerns to portray a century later.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: It is interesting about the "virtual" transfer of funds in the situation u described. I imagine this was much less common prior to telegraphy and also without computers, I am sure many opportunities to do this non-physical transfer were overlooked. Even in modern times, some financial institutions did not have a way to know when a company which had gone bankrupt owed them money and paid the bankrupt co. money even though they would never see the bankrupt's money.  

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