<p>The way that the gold standard ties the value of a dollar to gold is usually by making a dollar exchangeable for a fixed amount of gold. For example, <a href="http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fdr-takes-united-states-off-gold-standard" rel="nofollow">from 1934 until 1971 the US government would exchange \$1 for 1/35th of an ounce of gold</a>. </p>

<p>One of the charms of using gold as a currency is that it is durable and extremely valuable for how much room it takes up. How would anyone actually implement monetary conversion for Big Macs? Would there be a Fort Kroc where 3 billion Big Macs (worth the <a href="https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsreports/rpt/goldRpt/current_report.htm" rel="nofollow">\$11 billion of the current US Gold stockpiles</a>) would be kept? The same  perishability and low value per unit volume of make Big Macs  delicious meals to millions also make them a terrible anchor for a commodity currency. </p>

<p>It is true that consumption of gold services in the form of gold jewelry and the like make demand for gold pro-cyclical. But empirically, prices were stable and inflation low during the gold standard. Therefore it is hard to imagine this was a severe problem. Of course, the gold standard has lots of problems including:</p>

<ol>
<li>The supply of gold increases slowly over time relative to the economy, leading to gradual deflation which is thought to make recessions worse. </li>
<li>The use of gold as a backing for currency significantly increased demand for gold, leading to tremendous diversion of resources into gold production.</li>
<li>Like any pegged currency, a gold standard depends on reserves which can be exhausted in a panic about the future ability of a government to convert. </li>
</ol>

<p>Big Macs might not suffer from all these problems but, as mentioned above, suffer from lots of other problems that make it problematic to use them as or a backing for money. And how would you handle counterfeiting?</p>

<p>One reason all major counties have moved to fiat money is that it doesn't suffer from any of the problems of gold listed above. It also doesn't suffer from the additional weaknesses of Big Mac being both perishable and a low value item. </p>

<p>One negative of fiat money is that the monetary authority (e. g. the central bank) can't abuse their discretion to create high inflation. But Big Macs suffer from this problem too. Because Big Macs are easy to create in large quantities and short run demand is relatively inelastic, the government could create lots of inflation by just grilling up their own, just as they could run their printing presses. </p>

<p>Yes, it is true that consumers of Big Macs are probably poorer on average, and so they would benefit relatively more from cheaper burgers if the government tried to inflate away the debt by printing money (grilling up burgers) but even if they were free how many would people eat? That's why their demand is inelastic, people don't want that fourth burger in one day nor do they want to eat them everyday forever. As for the other costs of higher inflation, that's a more complex issue and probably best posed as another question about what are the benefits and costs of higher inflation and who gets what. But original question asks would it be workable. The costs of conversion to a commodity backed money based on Big Macs seem to have little to recommend it and enormous costs both in transition off fiat money, governance (counterfeiting and monetary policy), and ongoing implementation owing to low value per item and perishability. </p>

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@JemBishop To have a backed currency you need to guarantee exchangeability. You need to say: whenever someone brings me $1 I will give them a Big Mac. How will you do that without a giant stockpile of Big Macs?
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I do not see why you have to have a stockpile of them surely a reliable means of production is equally good. A standard is set for the big mac (patty of certain size) etc then if everyone wants to cash in their money there are factories in  which could meet that demand (of course this is highly unlikely so there would be less factories than that but they could be built). The perishability I think adds an advantage it ensures the money is actually in the economy. Another example instead of big macs would be power. How about 1 dollar is always worth say 10kWhrs??
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Surely a piece of gold sitting in a vault does nothing whilst if instead you buy it from the government then use it to make a product then that grows the economy, so reserves are a bad idea?
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But when the government drive down the value of their own money by producing the good they produce an item poor people would like, so the inflation is not a hidden tax on the poorer to benefit large monied interests which would have most influence in government.
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<p>I don't have a formal education in economics but I had an idea for creating a better and fairer currency. So the gold standard ties gold to the dollar. Gold is usually used in luxury items like jewellery and electronics. So as the economy booms demand for luxury goods increases and thus the demand for dollars. So this would reduce capital investment as dollars would be better to have right, which would reduce growth?</p>

<p>If you tied the dollar to say the Big Mac, then as the economy boomed the dollars relative value would decrease as people are more well off so they would be more likely to invest in businesses. Also the advantage of this system is that in a crash people are poorer so the demand for more basic goods goes up thus the dollar goes up. This would have the effect of making recessions easier on poor people as they mainly have their assets in cash. Also as means of production for the big mac become more refined, inflation will occur so it doesn't have the gold standard problem.</p>

<p>I might be wrong about some points above but in general could making 1 dollar always give you 1 big mac work as a standard for a currency?</p>

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Could money be tied to a basic good like the gold standard?
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# Could money be tied to a basic good like the gold standard?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-06-29)

I don't have a formal education in economics but I had an idea for creating a better and fairer currency. So the gold standard ties gold to the dollar. Gold is usually used in luxury items like jewellery and electronics. So as the economy booms demand for luxury goods increases and thus the demand for dollars. So this would reduce capital investment as dollars would be better to have right, which would reduce growth?

If you tied the dollar to say the Big Mac, then as the economy boomed the dollars relative value would decrease as people are more well off so they would be more likely to invest in businesses. Also the advantage of this system is that in a crash people are poorer so the demand for more basic goods goes up thus the dollar goes up. This would have the effect of making recessions easier on poor people as they mainly have their assets in cash. Also as means of production for the big mac become more refined, inflation will occur so it doesn't have the gold standard problem.

I might be wrong about some points above but in general could making 1 dollar always give you 1 big mac work as a standard for a currency?

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### Answer by username_1 on 2015-06-30. Score: 2

The way that the gold standard ties the value of a dollar to gold is usually by making a dollar exchangeable for a fixed amount of gold. For example, [from 1934 until 1971 the US government would exchange \$1 for 1/35th of an ounce of gold](http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fdr-takes-united-states-off-gold-standard).

One of the charms of using gold as a currency is that it is durable and extremely valuable for how much room it takes up. How would anyone actually implement monetary conversion for Big Macs? Would there be a Fort Kroc where 3 billion Big Macs (worth the [\$11 billion of the current US Gold stockpiles](https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsreports/rpt/goldRpt/current_report.htm)) would be kept? The same perishability and low value per unit volume of make Big Macs delicious meals to millions also make them a terrible anchor for a commodity currency.

It is true that consumption of gold services in the form of gold jewelry and the like make demand for gold pro-cyclical. But empirically, prices were stable and inflation low during the gold standard. Therefore it is hard to imagine this was a severe problem. Of course, the gold standard has lots of problems including:

1. The supply of gold increases slowly over time relative to the economy, leading to gradual deflation which is thought to make recessions worse.
2. The use of gold as a backing for currency significantly increased demand for gold, leading to tremendous diversion of resources into gold production.
3. Like any pegged currency, a gold standard depends on reserves which can be exhausted in a panic about the future ability of a government to convert.

Big Macs might not suffer from all these problems but, as mentioned above, suffer from lots of other problems that make it problematic to use them as or a backing for money. And how would you handle counterfeiting?

One reason all major counties have moved to fiat money is that it doesn't suffer from any of the problems of gold listed above. It also doesn't suffer from the additional weaknesses of Big Mac being both perishable and a low value item.

One negative of fiat money is that the monetary authority (e. g. the central bank) can't abuse their discretion to create high inflation. But Big Macs suffer from this problem too. Because Big Macs are easy to create in large quantities and short run demand is relatively inelastic, the government could create lots of inflation by just grilling up their own, just as they could run their printing presses.

Yes, it is true that consumers of Big Macs are probably poorer on average, and so they would benefit relatively more from cheaper burgers if the government tried to inflate away the debt by printing money (grilling up burgers) but even if they were free how many would people eat? That's why their demand is inelastic, people don't want that fourth burger in one day nor do they want to eat them everyday forever. As for the other costs of higher inflation, that's a more complex issue and probably best posed as another question about what are the benefits and costs of higher inflation and who gets what. But original question asks would it be workable. The costs of conversion to a commodity backed money based on Big Macs seem to have little to recommend it and enormous costs both in transition off fiat money, governance (counterfeiting and monetary policy), and ongoing implementation owing to low value per item and perishability.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I do not see why you have to have a stockpile of them surely a reliable means of production is equally good. A standard is set for the big mac (patty of certain size) etc then if everyone wants to cash in their money there are factories in  which could meet that demand (of course this is highly unlikely so there would be less factories than that but they could be built). The perishability I think adds an advantage it ensures the money is actually in the economy. Another example instead of big macs would be power. How about 1 dollar is always worth say 10kWhrs??  
> **username_0**: Surely a piece of gold sitting in a vault does nothing whilst if instead you buy it from the government then use it to make a product then that grows the economy, so reserves are a bad idea?  
> **username_0**: But when the government drive down the value of their own money by producing the good they produce an item poor people would like, so the inflation is not a hidden tax on the poorer to benefit large monied interests which would have most influence in government.  
> **username_2**: @JemBishop To have a backed currency you need to guarantee exchangeability. You need to say: whenever someone brings me $1 I will give them a Big Mac. How will you do that without a giant stockpile of Big Macs?  

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