<p>Depends on what you mean by 'possible'. The liquor stores in your example could form a union, and collectively bargain with brands. Then if a brand breaks a contract with one of them, they all break the contract. This would greatly disincentivize the brands' strong arm practice.</p>

<p>In my opinion this is unlikely to work (it is very hard to organize), but it is 'possible'.</p>

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Giskard
<p>There really is not one.  Even things like unions, water, fire or homeowners' associations are really special purpose governments.  They derive their powers from the governmental body that delegates police power to them.  </p>

<p>Even "voluntary" associations that can enforce welfare optimality derive their authority from the government and can only enforce through the courts.  The only real exception would be where the Coase theorem would apply and that isn't a free market defense.  Rather, it says that rational people will accept transferrable utility, side payments or bribes in such a way that optimal output will not be impacted.</p>

<p>The problem is that "good" solutions do not generally exist to these type of problems.  Instead, there are a set of less inefficient solutions.  All of the possible less inefficient solutions involve police power.  How much police power is useful is an important question, but police power underlies all free markets.  Free markets do not exist in the absence of police power.</p>

<p>Still, the use of police power is a costly use of resources and so there are two desired elements of police power.  The first is that no more power is in use than is needed at the moment.  The second is that a large level of reserve power exists to meet emergencies.  This is a difficult problem to balance.</p>

<p>In its simplest form, you want to send the appropriate size response for a home on fire and no more.  You don't want sixteen fire engines for a two bedroom home.  On the other hand, if you have a large chemical plant in the city, you want to be capable on short notice to respond to a catastrophic accident with the release of hazardous materials and explosion risk and the presence of fire.  For a smaller sized town this is almost a contradiction. </p>

<p>The size of governmental response to a catastrophe would require maintaining substantial immediate reserves, well in excess of actual need.  Nonetheless, if the failure to respond adequately would be the loss of hundreds of homes and lives then not carrying that capacity is irresponsible.</p>

<p>Generally free-market people have a bias downward, which makes emergency responses difficult, due to the fear of overreach.  Over the years, since I know many free market people, I have come to conclude that most of them have a strong emotional reaction to government and they wrap their thinking in a logical manner around this emotion.  I think a few of them recognize this is nothing more than preferences in action, but I think most don't realize how much their emotions govern their rationality.</p>

<p>I am biased toward the libertarian view, in the sense that I believe the hand of government should be designed and biased to be the softest possible response that is effective, but I don't have a problem or struggle with solving the public goods problem with government.  I do believe that rational oversight by voters is the only solution because the system will reshape itself to accommodate the government with the intent of defeating social efficiency.  I also don't believe rational oversight by voters is a good solution, just better than a system on autopilot.</p>

<p>I don't think that questions on the free-market/libertarian/objectivist movement are intellectual in nature and not really a serious question in economics.  They are political and emotional.  The problem of external costs and inefficiencies isn't a controversy in economics.  Now, mechanism design is a serious issue in economics.  How to minimize things like regulatory capture and voting inefficiency are serious issues, but the use of government or government authorized bodies is not.</p>

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<p>One argument against a completely free market economy without "government" oversight is the tendency towards anti-competitive behavior. The argument is that government laws are needed to prevent anti-competitive behavior which could be used to create and solidify monopolies.</p>

<p>A typical example of this is the behavior of liquor distributors in the United States. In the United States it is (or was?) a common practice of liquor distributors to coerce retailers into selling only the brands of liquor that the distributor offered. Distributors carrying the major brands would inspect liquor stores and if they found the store selling any small company's liquor, they would threaten them: "Either stop selling this company's liquor, or else our deal is over and we won't supply you anymore." This is deadly threat, since liquor stores need big brands to stay in business. Because of this, it has been traditionally been difficult for small liquor distillers to survive without a deal with a major distributor.</p>

<p>The same kind of argument was floated at the turn of the century (1900). Oil companies would threaten pipelines: don't carry this small oil company's oil or we will drop you. This type threat caused small oil companies to get frozen out of pipeline distribution networks until legislation basically forced pipelines to carry all oil equally and made it illegal to prefer one company's oil to another.</p>

<p>Is it possible in a totally free market economy to combat anti-competitive behavior or is government regulation the only way to stop it?</p>

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Unless all firms will magically become price takers, there will be market power exerted. A free market simply doesn't always enforce the nice welfare theorems we like. Maybe a government doesn't have to intervene to stop anti-competitive behavior (e.g. suppose people riot and destroy capital in response to high goods prices) but it certainly in many cases is desirable.
Kitsune Cavalry
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Can you please explain what a "totally free market economy" is?
Michael Greinecker
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@MichaelGreinecker It's the opposite of Austria's economic system.
Lassie Fair
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So you can't really answer the question.  That's what I thought.
Michael Greinecker
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Free market defense against anti-competitive behavior?
Lassie Fair
# Free market defense against anti-competitive behavior?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-11-15)

One argument against a completely free market economy without "government" oversight is the tendency towards anti-competitive behavior. The argument is that government laws are needed to prevent anti-competitive behavior which could be used to create and solidify monopolies.

A typical example of this is the behavior of liquor distributors in the United States. In the United States it is (or was?) a common practice of liquor distributors to coerce retailers into selling only the brands of liquor that the distributor offered. Distributors carrying the major brands would inspect liquor stores and if they found the store selling any small company's liquor, they would threaten them: "Either stop selling this company's liquor, or else our deal is over and we won't supply you anymore." This is deadly threat, since liquor stores need big brands to stay in business. Because of this, it has been traditionally been difficult for small liquor distillers to survive without a deal with a major distributor.

The same kind of argument was floated at the turn of the century (1900). Oil companies would threaten pipelines: don't carry this small oil company's oil or we will drop you. This type threat caused small oil companies to get frozen out of pipeline distribution networks until legislation basically forced pipelines to carry all oil equally and made it illegal to prefer one company's oil to another.

Is it possible in a totally free market economy to combat anti-competitive behavior or is government regulation the only way to stop it?

**Tags:** monopoly, regulation, monopolistic-competition, free-market
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Unless all firms will magically become price takers, there will be market power exerted. A free market simply doesn't always enforce the nice welfare theorems we like. Maybe a government doesn't have to intervene to stop anti-competitive behavior (e.g. suppose people riot and destroy capital in response to high goods prices) but it certainly in many cases is desirable.  
> **username_2**: Can you please explain what a "totally free market economy" is?  
> **username_0**: @MichaelGreinecker It's the opposite of Austria's economic system.  
> **username_2**: So you can't really answer the question.  That's what I thought.  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2017-11-15. Score: 2

Depends on what you mean by 'possible'. The liquor stores in your example could form a union, and collectively bargain with brands. Then if a brand breaks a contract with one of them, they all break the contract. This would greatly disincentivize the brands' strong arm practice.

In my opinion this is unlikely to work (it is very hard to organize), but it is 'possible'.


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### Answer by username_4 on 2017-11-17. Score: 1

There really is not one. Even things like unions, water, fire or homeowners' associations are really special purpose governments. They derive their powers from the governmental body that delegates police power to them.

Even "voluntary" associations that can enforce welfare optimality derive their authority from the government and can only enforce through the courts. The only real exception would be where the Coase theorem would apply and that isn't a free market defense. Rather, it says that rational people will accept transferrable utility, side payments or bribes in such a way that optimal output will not be impacted.

The problem is that "good" solutions do not generally exist to these type of problems. Instead, there are a set of less inefficient solutions. All of the possible less inefficient solutions involve police power. How much police power is useful is an important question, but police power underlies all free markets. Free markets do not exist in the absence of police power.

Still, the use of police power is a costly use of resources and so there are two desired elements of police power. The first is that no more power is in use than is needed at the moment. The second is that a large level of reserve power exists to meet emergencies. This is a difficult problem to balance.

In its simplest form, you want to send the appropriate size response for a home on fire and no more. You don't want sixteen fire engines for a two bedroom home. On the other hand, if you have a large chemical plant in the city, you want to be capable on short notice to respond to a catastrophic accident with the release of hazardous materials and explosion risk and the presence of fire. For a smaller sized town this is almost a contradiction.

The size of governmental response to a catastrophe would require maintaining substantial immediate reserves, well in excess of actual need. Nonetheless, if the failure to respond adequately would be the loss of hundreds of homes and lives then not carrying that capacity is irresponsible.

Generally free-market people have a bias downward, which makes emergency responses difficult, due to the fear of overreach. Over the years, since I know many free market people, I have come to conclude that most of them have a strong emotional reaction to government and they wrap their thinking in a logical manner around this emotion. I think a few of them recognize this is nothing more than preferences in action, but I think most don't realize how much their emotions govern their rationality.

I am biased toward the libertarian view, in the sense that I believe the hand of government should be designed and biased to be the softest possible response that is effective, but I don't have a problem or struggle with solving the public goods problem with government. I do believe that rational oversight by voters is the only solution because the system will reshape itself to accommodate the government with the intent of defeating social efficiency. I also don't believe rational oversight by voters is a good solution, just better than a system on autopilot.

I don't think that questions on the free-market/libertarian/objectivist movement are intellectual in nature and not really a serious question in economics. They are political and emotional. The problem of external costs and inefficiencies isn't a controversy in economics. Now, mechanism design is a serious issue in economics. How to minimize things like regulatory capture and voting inefficiency are serious issues, but the use of government or government authorized bodies is not.


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