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248 | 95 |
"The reason abortion at any stage of a pregnancy is unethical is because you can not justify killing a human life based on its stage of development ... ... Abortion has its place . In the need where the mothers health is endangered its completely understandable but its not understandable when its done out of convenience ."
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"How do you define `` convenience `` ?"
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"but its not understandable when its done out of convenience ."
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"How do you define `` convenience `` ?"
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252 | 95 |
"The reason abortion at any stage of a pregnancy is unethical is because you can not justify killing a human life based on its stage of development ... ... Abortion has its place . In the need where the mothers health is endangered its completely understandable but its not understandable when its done out of convenience ."
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"How do you define `` convenience `` ?"
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"understandable but its not understandable when its done out of convenience ."
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"How do you define `` convenience `` ?"
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247 | 95 |
"The reason abortion at any stage of a pregnancy is unethical is because you can not justify killing a human life based on its stage of development ... ... Abortion has its place . In the need where the mothers health is endangered its completely understandable but its not understandable when its done out of convenience ."
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"How do you define `` convenience `` ?"
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"Abortion has its place . In the need where the mothers health is endangered its completely understandable but its not understandable when its done out of convenience ."
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"How do you define `` convenience `` ?"
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253 | 96 |
"They are constructs of man ."
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"if the laws of logic are human constructs then how can they be absolute since humans think differently and often contradictorily . If they are produced from human minds , and human minds are mutually contradictory , then how can the constructs be absolute ? Therefore , the laws of logic are not human constructs ."
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"They are constructs of man ."
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"how can they be absolute since humans think differently and often contradictorily ."
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254 | 96 |
"They are constructs of man ."
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"if the laws of logic are human constructs then how can they be absolute since humans think differently and often contradictorily . If they are produced from human minds , and human minds are mutually contradictory , then how can the constructs be absolute ? Therefore , the laws of logic are not human constructs ."
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"They are constructs of man ."
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"if the laws of logic are human constructs then how can they be absolute since humans think differently and often contradictorily . , the laws of logic are not human"
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255 | 96 |
"They are constructs of man ."
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"if the laws of logic are human constructs then how can they be absolute since humans think differently and often contradictorily . If they are produced from human minds , and human minds are mutually contradictory , then how can the constructs be absolute ? Therefore , the laws of logic are not human constructs ."
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"They are constructs of man ."
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"if the laws of logic are human constructs then how can they be absolute since humans think differently and often contradictorily ."
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258 | 96 |
"They are constructs of man ."
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"if the laws of logic are human constructs then how can they be absolute since humans think differently and often contradictorily . If they are produced from human minds , and human minds are mutually contradictory , then how can the constructs be absolute ? Therefore , the laws of logic are not human constructs ."
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"They are constructs of man ."
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"Therefore , the laws of logic are not human constructs"
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257 | 96 |
"They are constructs of man ."
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"if the laws of logic are human constructs then how can they be absolute since humans think differently and often contradictorily . If they are produced from human minds , and human minds are mutually contradictory , then how can the constructs be absolute ? Therefore , the laws of logic are not human constructs ."
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"They are constructs of man ."
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"Therefore , the laws of logic are not human constructs ."
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262 | 97 |
"I know of no one that is pro life believes the mother should die so the baby can live ."
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"Obviously not . If the right to life trumps all other rights , then it follows that the mother 's right to life and the child 's right to life cancel each other out . Mind you , if it 's her choice then the pro-life movement endorses such heroism , right ?"
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"I know of no one that is pro life believes the mother should die so the baby can live ."
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"Obviously , if it 's her choice then the pro-life movement endorses such heroism"
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264 | 97 |
"I know of no one that is pro life believes the mother should die so the baby can live ."
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"Obviously not . If the right to life trumps all other rights , then it follows that the mother 's right to life and the child 's right to life cancel each other out . Mind you , if it 's her choice then the pro-life movement endorses such heroism , right ?"
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"no one that is pro life believes the mother should die"
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"then it follows that the mother 's right to life and the child 's right to life cancel each other out . Mind you , if it 's her choice then the pro-life movement endorses such heroism , right ?"
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265 | 98 |
"I guess the question should be , why does the pharmacist think he knows what 's better for the patient than the doctor does ?"
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"In all fairness the Pharmacist does serve an important vetting role in the supply of medication to patients- they check what has been prescribed by the doctor against they know about and correct errors that are made ( which do happen ... I was once given a 7 week course of anti-malarials which turned out to be suitable for taking no more than 28 days at a time ) . That aside I 'd agree with sinjin ."
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"why does the pharmacist think he knows what 's better for the patient than the doctor does ?"
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"In all fairness the Pharmacist does serve an important vetting role in the supply of medication to ..."
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267 | 98 |
"I guess the question should be , why does the pharmacist think he knows what 's better for the patient than the doctor does ?"
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"In all fairness the Pharmacist does serve an important vetting role in the supply of medication to patients- they check what has been prescribed by the doctor against they know about and correct errors that are made ( which do happen ... I was once given a 7 week course of anti-malarials which turned out to be suitable for taking no more than 28 days at a time ) . That aside I 'd agree with sinjin ."
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"why does the pharmacist think he knows what 's better for the patient than the doctor does ?"
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"Pharmacist does serve an important vetting role in the supply of medication to patients- they check what has been prescribed by the doctor against they know about and correct errors that are made"
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269 | 98 |
"I guess the question should be , why does the pharmacist think he knows what 's better for the patient than the doctor does ?"
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"In all fairness the Pharmacist does serve an important vetting role in the supply of medication to patients- they check what has been prescribed by the doctor against they know about and correct errors that are made ( which do happen ... I was once given a 7 week course of anti-malarials which turned out to be suitable for taking no more than 28 days at a time ) . That aside I 'd agree with sinjin ."
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"why does the pharmacist think he knows what 's better for the patient than the doctor does ?"
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"the Pharmacist does serve an important vetting role in the supply of medication to"
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270 | 98 |
"I guess the question should be , why does the pharmacist think he knows what 's better for the patient than the doctor does ?"
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"In all fairness the Pharmacist does serve an important vetting role in the supply of medication to patients- they check what has been prescribed by the doctor against they know about and correct errors that are made ( which do happen ... I was once given a 7 week course of anti-malarials which turned out to be suitable for taking no more than 28 days at a time ) . That aside I 'd agree with sinjin ."
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"why does the pharmacist think he knows what 's better for the patient than the doctor does"
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"they check what has been prescribed by the doctor against they know about and correct errors that are made"
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268 | 98 |
"I guess the question should be , why does the pharmacist think he knows what 's better for the patient than the doctor does ?"
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"In all fairness the Pharmacist does serve an important vetting role in the supply of medication to patients- they check what has been prescribed by the doctor against they know about and correct errors that are made ( which do happen ... I was once given a 7 week course of anti-malarials which turned out to be suitable for taking no more than 28 days at a time ) . That aside I 'd agree with sinjin ."
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"why does the pharmacist think he knows what 's better for the patient than the doctor does ?"
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"Pharmacist does serve an important vetting role in the supply of medication to patients- they check what has been prescribed by the doctor"
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273 | 106 |
"Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement , including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture . While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice , the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally , as they would a science textbook . Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation , Adam and Eve , Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God , human beings , and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation . Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth . Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts . We the undersigned , Christian clergy from many different traditions , believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist . We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth , one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests . To reject this truth or to treat it as  “ one theory among others ” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children . We believe that among God ’ s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator . To argue that God ’ s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God , an act of hubris . We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge . We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion , two very different , but complementary , forms of truth ."
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"Over 10,000 signatures of Christian Clergy have been collected , and have endorsed this letter ."
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AGREE
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"Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement , including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture ."
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"Over 10,000 signatures of Christian Clergy have been collected , and have endorsed this letter ."
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272 | 106 |
"Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement , including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture . While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice , the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally , as they would a science textbook . Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation , Adam and Eve , Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God , human beings , and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation . Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth . Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts . We the undersigned , Christian clergy from many different traditions , believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist . We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth , one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests . To reject this truth or to treat it as  “ one theory among others ” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children . We believe that among God ’ s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator . To argue that God ’ s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God , an act of hubris . We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge . We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion , two very different , but complementary , forms of truth ."
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"Over 10,000 signatures of Christian Clergy have been collected , and have endorsed this letter ."
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AGREE
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"Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement , including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture . While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice , the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally , as they would a science textbook . Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation , Adam and Eve , Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God , human beings , and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation . Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth . Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts . We the undersigned , Christian clergy from many different traditions , believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist . We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth , one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests . To reject this truth or to treat it as  one theory among others is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children . We believe that among God ’ s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator . To argue that God ’ s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God , an act of hubris . We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge . We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion , two very different , but complementary , forms of truth ."
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"Over 10,000 signatures of Christian Clergy have been collected , and have endorsed this letter ."
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271 | 106 |
"Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement , including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture . While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice , the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally , as they would a science textbook . Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation , Adam and Eve , Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God , human beings , and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation . Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth . Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts . We the undersigned , Christian clergy from many different traditions , believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist . We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth , one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests . To reject this truth or to treat it as  “ one theory among others ” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children . We believe that among God ’ s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator . To argue that God ’ s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God , an act of hubris . We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge . We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion , two very different , but complementary , forms of truth ."
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"Over 10,000 signatures of Christian Clergy have been collected , and have endorsed this letter ."
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AGREE
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"We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion , two very different , but complementary , forms of truth ."
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"Over 10,000 signatures of Christian Clergy have been collected , and have endorsed this letter ."
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274 | 106 |
"Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement , including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture . While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice , the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally , as they would a science textbook . Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation , Adam and Eve , Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God , human beings , and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation . Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth . Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts . We the undersigned , Christian clergy from many different traditions , believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist . We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth , one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests . To reject this truth or to treat it as  “ one theory among others ” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children . We believe that among God ’ s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator . To argue that God ’ s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God , an act of hubris . We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge . We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion , two very different , but complementary , forms of truth ."
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"Over 10,000 signatures of Christian Clergy have been collected , and have endorsed this letter ."
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"virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth"
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"signatures of Christian Clergy have been collected , have endorsed this letter ."
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277 | 107 |
"How many children have you adopted ?"
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"Go do a Google search and find out . How many babies have you supported killing ?"
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"How many children have you adopted ?"
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"How many babies have you supported killing ?"
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276 | 107 |
"How many children have you adopted ?"
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"Go do a Google search and find out . How many babies have you supported killing ?"
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"How many children have you adopted ?"
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"How many babies have you supported killing ?"
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275 | 107 |
"How many children have you adopted ?"
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"Go do a Google search and find out . How many babies have you supported killing ?"
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"children adopted"
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"babies killing"
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280 | 108 |
"That can be proven ."
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"No it ca n't . Scientific theories are n't `` proven `` . You can observe the fact of gravity but you ca n't `` prove `` that the theory that explains it is correct . In fact , the theory of gravitation is one of the least secure theories of modern science ."
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"That can be proven ."
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"No it ca n't . Scientific theories are n't `` proven `` ."
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281 | 108 |
"That can be proven ."
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"No it ca n't . Scientific theories are n't `` proven `` . You can observe the fact of gravity but you ca n't `` prove `` that the theory that explains it is correct . In fact , the theory of gravitation is one of the least secure theories of modern science ."
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"That can be proven ."
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"No it ca n't ."
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282 | 108 |
"That can be proven ."
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"No it ca n't . Scientific theories are n't `` proven `` . You can observe the fact of gravity but you ca n't `` prove `` that the theory that explains it is correct . In fact , the theory of gravitation is one of the least secure theories of modern science ."
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"That can be proven ."
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"No it ca n't You can observe the fact of gravity but you ca n't `` prove `` that the theory that explains it is correct . ,"
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284 | 109 |
"The main business of PP is providing contraception and offering sex ed ?"
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"By number of people , absolutely . Take a look at the table : http : //www.plannedparenthood.org/lib ... 2Services.html Service No . of Procedures Reversible Contraceptive Clients — Women 2,208,483 Emergency Contraception Clients 633,756 Tubal Sterilization Clients 680 Reversible Contraceptive Clients — Men 60,476 Vasectomy Clients 2,522 773 Abortion Procedures 227,375 HIV Testing Clients — Women 126,477 HIV Testing Clients — Men 48,991 Prenatal Clients 15,860 Infertility Clients 325 Colposcopy Procedures 31,248 Cryotherapy Procedures 3,913 LOOP/LEEP Procedures 1,781 Midlife Clients 10,575 Pregnancy Tests 1,081,772 Breast Exams/Breast Care 1,062,727 Primary Care Clients 24,483 STI Procedures , Women and Men 1,255,036 Other Services — Women 58,626 Other Services — Men 17,905 Totals 6,873,011 Total Unduplicated Clients 2,744,554 Or to shorten it down : 227K Abortions : 5,426K Birth control : 175K STD test : 1,081K Pregnancy test : 15K OB checks : 1,102K Gynecological : 1,356K Other"
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"The main business of PP is providing contraception and offering sex ed ?"
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"By number of people , absolutely ."
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286 | 109 |
"The main business of PP is providing contraception and offering sex ed ?"
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"By number of people , absolutely . Take a look at the table : http : //www.plannedparenthood.org/lib ... 2Services.html Service No . of Procedures Reversible Contraceptive Clients — Women 2,208,483 Emergency Contraception Clients 633,756 Tubal Sterilization Clients 680 Reversible Contraceptive Clients — Men 60,476 Vasectomy Clients 2,522 773 Abortion Procedures 227,375 HIV Testing Clients — Women 126,477 HIV Testing Clients — Men 48,991 Prenatal Clients 15,860 Infertility Clients 325 Colposcopy Procedures 31,248 Cryotherapy Procedures 3,913 LOOP/LEEP Procedures 1,781 Midlife Clients 10,575 Pregnancy Tests 1,081,772 Breast Exams/Breast Care 1,062,727 Primary Care Clients 24,483 STI Procedures , Women and Men 1,255,036 Other Services — Women 58,626 Other Services — Men 17,905 Totals 6,873,011 Total Unduplicated Clients 2,744,554 Or to shorten it down : 227K Abortions : 5,426K Birth control : 175K STD test : 1,081K Pregnancy test : 15K OB checks : 1,102K Gynecological : 1,356K Other"
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"The main business of PP is providing contraception and offering sex ed ?"
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"Take a look at the table :"
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283 | 109 |
"The main business of PP is providing contraception and offering sex ed ?"
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"By number of people , absolutely . Take a look at the table : http : //www.plannedparenthood.org/lib ... 2Services.html Service No . of Procedures Reversible Contraceptive Clients — Women 2,208,483 Emergency Contraception Clients 633,756 Tubal Sterilization Clients 680 Reversible Contraceptive Clients — Men 60,476 Vasectomy Clients 2,522 773 Abortion Procedures 227,375 HIV Testing Clients — Women 126,477 HIV Testing Clients — Men 48,991 Prenatal Clients 15,860 Infertility Clients 325 Colposcopy Procedures 31,248 Cryotherapy Procedures 3,913 LOOP/LEEP Procedures 1,781 Midlife Clients 10,575 Pregnancy Tests 1,081,772 Breast Exams/Breast Care 1,062,727 Primary Care Clients 24,483 STI Procedures , Women and Men 1,255,036 Other Services — Women 58,626 Other Services — Men 17,905 Totals 6,873,011 Total Unduplicated Clients 2,744,554 Or to shorten it down : 227K Abortions : 5,426K Birth control : 175K STD test : 1,081K Pregnancy test : 15K OB checks : 1,102K Gynecological : 1,356K Other"
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"The main business of PP is providing contraception and offering sex ed ?"
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"By number of people , absolutely . Take a look at the table : http : //www.plannedparenthood.org/lib ... 2Services.html Reversible Contraceptive Clients — Women 2,208,483"
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290 | 110 |
"So , this magical program that is supposed to represent life actually can also produce aeroplanes ! I 'd like to see DNA morph into such things !"
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"you based this ( and other claims ) on a summary of the biomorphs program at website that either a ) did n't also provide dawkins limitations on the program or b ) had the limitations and you did n't bother to relay this information to the forum . You then make incredulous statements about how unrealistic the biomorphs are . any quotations of web pages are irrelevant because they do not address the basic issue that you are suggesting dawkins puts the biomorphs forth as a model of evolution and natural selection . This is not true as i have quoted part of his book that puts limitations on the biomorphs program , and draws attention to what `` morals `` should be drawn out of the biomorphs ."
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"So , this magical program that is supposed to represent life actually can also produce aeroplanes !"
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"you based this ( and other claims ) on a summary of the biomorphs program did n't also provide dawkins limitations on the program ``"
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289 | 110 |
"So , this magical program that is supposed to represent life actually can also produce aeroplanes ! I 'd like to see DNA morph into such things !"
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"you based this ( and other claims ) on a summary of the biomorphs program at website that either a ) did n't also provide dawkins limitations on the program or b ) had the limitations and you did n't bother to relay this information to the forum . You then make incredulous statements about how unrealistic the biomorphs are . any quotations of web pages are irrelevant because they do not address the basic issue that you are suggesting dawkins puts the biomorphs forth as a model of evolution and natural selection . This is not true as i have quoted part of his book that puts limitations on the biomorphs program , and draws attention to what `` morals `` should be drawn out of the biomorphs ."
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"So , this magical program that is supposed to represent life actually can also produce aeroplanes !"
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"you based this ( and other claims ) on a summary of the biomorphs program at website that either a ) did n't also provide dawkins limitations"
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287 | 110 |
"So , this magical program that is supposed to represent life actually can also produce aeroplanes ! I 'd like to see DNA morph into such things !"
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"you based this ( and other claims ) on a summary of the biomorphs program at website that either a ) did n't also provide dawkins limitations on the program or b ) had the limitations and you did n't bother to relay this information to the forum . You then make incredulous statements about how unrealistic the biomorphs are . any quotations of web pages are irrelevant because they do not address the basic issue that you are suggesting dawkins puts the biomorphs forth as a model of evolution and natural selection . This is not true as i have quoted part of his book that puts limitations on the biomorphs program , and draws attention to what `` morals `` should be drawn out of the biomorphs ."
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"this magical program that is supposed to represent life actually can also produce aeroplanes I 'd like to see DNA morph into such things"
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"This is not true i have quoted part of his book that puts limitations on the biomorphs program ,"
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293 | 111 |
"I 'm not surprised that no one on your side of the debate would correct you , but wolves and dogs are both members of the same species ."
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"Dealt with . Wolves and dogs share a genus , not a species . Along with coyotes and jackels . See above for lots of transitionals , also ."
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"wolves and dogs are both members of the same species ."
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"Wolves and dogs share a genus , not a species ."
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292 | 111 |
"I 'm not surprised that no one on your side of the debate would correct you , but wolves and dogs are both members of the same species ."
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"Dealt with . Wolves and dogs share a genus , not a species . Along with coyotes and jackels . See above for lots of transitionals , also ."
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"I 'm not surprised that no one on your side of the debate would correct you , but wolves and dogs are both members of the same species ."
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"Wolves and dogs share a genus , not a species ."
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294 | 111 |
"I 'm not surprised that no one on your side of the debate would correct you , but wolves and dogs are both members of the same species ."
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"Dealt with . Wolves and dogs share a genus , not a species . Along with coyotes and jackels . See above for lots of transitionals , also ."
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"wolves and dogs are both members of the same species ."
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"Wolves and dogs share a genus , not a species"
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"As for who plays 'word-games ' , it seems that you missed this ... # 19 `` New peppered moth stuff `` He went on for some time trying to undermine my posts based on the use of a word which most people have a problem with . There 's also the problem with Darwin claiming a tautology was a better term than `` Natural Selection `` , this was debated for some time , even though I posted the actual words of Darwin . The thread `` Unto the Ages of Ages `` developed into a debate over whether something could be both `` more accurate ' and wrong , thanks Ursus ! WJA and SLP argued over the word 'applied ' , then 'published ' ; whether Dembski had , and then changed this to 'proved ' ( see `` Looking for intelligence `` thread ) Lurch/Ungerdunn etc over what is a 'noun ' . Multiple personalities aside , this debate over 'nouns ' lasted for months . He resorted to no better argument then 'you 're wrong ' . A great debating style ! As for debating styles .... Waxy enters a debate on Science/Math says that I 've been refuted somewhere else , by someone else , and then leaves ; does the same thing on these Creation/Evolution debates ... only adds a few insults in the process ... not wishing to debate , just to name call . Mach is happy to admit he does n't read my posts/skims over them but wants to both debate and not debate them - claiming he 's got a time problem ... and asks me to post stuff he 's already replied to Would you count as a word-game the two incidents where you 've made a claim about me being insulting , and when I 've asked you to point it out , you ca n't ? One time you were so flustered you told me you were going to warn everyone about me . You make allegations then do n't back them up . Archilochus makes allegations that I do n't understand the word 'chance ' but is un-prepared to come up with a definition , just repeats that I do n't understand it . He 'll go on repeating this , because it is a replacement for debate . All the while you guys are very shy when it comes to debating each other 's mistakes ; such as Hank describing the world as egg-shaped , etc . In short you make so many 'just-so ' statements with little recourse to evidence , in an effort to drown out anyone who differs in opinion from yourself . Hence the total unwillingness to seriously tackle anyone from your own side who is either a ) wrong or b ) rude But in short , if someone posts here a statement , and they ca n't even be sure what they mean by it , then it does n't bode well . That is what has upset a number of people ; when this has been pointed out . This is also why many pro-evolutionists are so quick to resort to ad hominem here . That 's what this thread of yours is an attempt at - and at best it is something that suggests only other people are guilty of this crime ."
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"No , I for one dislike your posts because I know you intentionally write irrational posts to help support your religious cause . Just for the record montalban , basically every single legitimate scientist is `` pro-evolution `` . Creation theory is not taught in public schools , not by chance , but because ... * gasp * it 's RELIGIOUS MUMBO JUMBO . There is no evidence to support it . Creation fiction has made no progress with it 's `` faith-based `` ( lackofevidence ) with rational people . And I 'll also say that I 'd welcome ad hominem over irrational thinking any day . Ad hominem is just a lack of patience , or someone who does n't care to hide their emotion or opinion . Irrational thinking on the other hand is often only cured by death . Someone guilty of ad hominem can still hold a rational debate . The irrational .. well , why bother ? -Mach"
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"Mach is happy to admit he does n't read my posts/skims over them but wants to both debate and not debate them - claiming he 's got a time problem ... and asks me to post stuff he 's already replied to many pro-evolutionists are so quick to resort to ad hominem"
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"No , I for one dislike your posts because I know you intentionally write irrational posts to help support your religious cause . `` And I 'll also say that I 'd welcome ad hominem over irrational thinking any day . Ad hominem is just a lack of patience , or someone who does n't care to hide their emotion or opinion . Irrational thinking on the other hand is often only cured by death . Someone guilty of ad hominem can still hold a rational debate ."
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"As for who plays 'word-games ' , it seems that you missed this ... # 19 `` New peppered moth stuff `` He went on for some time trying to undermine my posts based on the use of a word which most people have a problem with . There 's also the problem with Darwin claiming a tautology was a better term than `` Natural Selection `` , this was debated for some time , even though I posted the actual words of Darwin . The thread `` Unto the Ages of Ages `` developed into a debate over whether something could be both `` more accurate ' and wrong , thanks Ursus ! WJA and SLP argued over the word 'applied ' , then 'published ' ; whether Dembski had , and then changed this to 'proved ' ( see `` Looking for intelligence `` thread ) Lurch/Ungerdunn etc over what is a 'noun ' . Multiple personalities aside , this debate over 'nouns ' lasted for months . He resorted to no better argument then 'you 're wrong ' . A great debating style ! As for debating styles .... Waxy enters a debate on Science/Math says that I 've been refuted somewhere else , by someone else , and then leaves ; does the same thing on these Creation/Evolution debates ... only adds a few insults in the process ... not wishing to debate , just to name call . Mach is happy to admit he does n't read my posts/skims over them but wants to both debate and not debate them - claiming he 's got a time problem ... and asks me to post stuff he 's already replied to Would you count as a word-game the two incidents where you 've made a claim about me being insulting , and when I 've asked you to point it out , you ca n't ? One time you were so flustered you told me you were going to warn everyone about me . You make allegations then do n't back them up . Archilochus makes allegations that I do n't understand the word 'chance ' but is un-prepared to come up with a definition , just repeats that I do n't understand it . He 'll go on repeating this , because it is a replacement for debate . All the while you guys are very shy when it comes to debating each other 's mistakes ; such as Hank describing the world as egg-shaped , etc . In short you make so many 'just-so ' statements with little recourse to evidence , in an effort to drown out anyone who differs in opinion from yourself . Hence the total unwillingness to seriously tackle anyone from your own side who is either a ) wrong or b ) rude But in short , if someone posts here a statement , and they ca n't even be sure what they mean by it , then it does n't bode well . That is what has upset a number of people ; when this has been pointed out . This is also why many pro-evolutionists are so quick to resort to ad hominem here . That 's what this thread of yours is an attempt at - and at best it is something that suggests only other people are guilty of this crime ."
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"No , I for one dislike your posts because I know you intentionally write irrational posts to help support your religious cause . Just for the record montalban , basically every single legitimate scientist is `` pro-evolution `` . Creation theory is not taught in public schools , not by chance , but because ... * gasp * it 's RELIGIOUS MUMBO JUMBO . There is no evidence to support it . Creation fiction has made no progress with it 's `` faith-based `` ( lackofevidence ) with rational people . And I 'll also say that I 'd welcome ad hominem over irrational thinking any day . Ad hominem is just a lack of patience , or someone who does n't care to hide their emotion or opinion . Irrational thinking on the other hand is often only cured by death . Someone guilty of ad hominem can still hold a rational debate . The irrational .. well , why bother ? -Mach"
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"Natural Selection Creation/Evolution That is what has upset a number of people ; when this has been pointed out"
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"No , I for one dislike your posts you intentionally write irrational posts to help support your religious cause ."
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"As for who plays 'word-games ' , it seems that you missed this ... # 19 `` New peppered moth stuff `` He went on for some time trying to undermine my posts based on the use of a word which most people have a problem with . There 's also the problem with Darwin claiming a tautology was a better term than `` Natural Selection `` , this was debated for some time , even though I posted the actual words of Darwin . The thread `` Unto the Ages of Ages `` developed into a debate over whether something could be both `` more accurate ' and wrong , thanks Ursus ! WJA and SLP argued over the word 'applied ' , then 'published ' ; whether Dembski had , and then changed this to 'proved ' ( see `` Looking for intelligence `` thread ) Lurch/Ungerdunn etc over what is a 'noun ' . Multiple personalities aside , this debate over 'nouns ' lasted for months . He resorted to no better argument then 'you 're wrong ' . A great debating style ! As for debating styles .... Waxy enters a debate on Science/Math says that I 've been refuted somewhere else , by someone else , and then leaves ; does the same thing on these Creation/Evolution debates ... only adds a few insults in the process ... not wishing to debate , just to name call . Mach is happy to admit he does n't read my posts/skims over them but wants to both debate and not debate them - claiming he 's got a time problem ... and asks me to post stuff he 's already replied to Would you count as a word-game the two incidents where you 've made a claim about me being insulting , and when I 've asked you to point it out , you ca n't ? One time you were so flustered you told me you were going to warn everyone about me . You make allegations then do n't back them up . Archilochus makes allegations that I do n't understand the word 'chance ' but is un-prepared to come up with a definition , just repeats that I do n't understand it . He 'll go on repeating this , because it is a replacement for debate . All the while you guys are very shy when it comes to debating each other 's mistakes ; such as Hank describing the world as egg-shaped , etc . In short you make so many 'just-so ' statements with little recourse to evidence , in an effort to drown out anyone who differs in opinion from yourself . Hence the total unwillingness to seriously tackle anyone from your own side who is either a ) wrong or b ) rude But in short , if someone posts here a statement , and they ca n't even be sure what they mean by it , then it does n't bode well . That is what has upset a number of people ; when this has been pointed out . This is also why many pro-evolutionists are so quick to resort to ad hominem here . That 's what this thread of yours is an attempt at - and at best it is something that suggests only other people are guilty of this crime ."
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"No , I for one dislike your posts because I know you intentionally write irrational posts to help support your religious cause . Just for the record montalban , basically every single legitimate scientist is `` pro-evolution `` . Creation theory is not taught in public schools , not by chance , but because ... * gasp * it 's RELIGIOUS MUMBO JUMBO . There is no evidence to support it . Creation fiction has made no progress with it 's `` faith-based `` ( lackofevidence ) with rational people . And I 'll also say that I 'd welcome ad hominem over irrational thinking any day . Ad hominem is just a lack of patience , or someone who does n't care to hide their emotion or opinion . Irrational thinking on the other hand is often only cured by death . Someone guilty of ad hominem can still hold a rational debate . The irrational .. well , why bother ? -Mach"
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"There 's also the problem with Darwin claiming a tautology was a better term than `` Natural Selection ``"
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"No , I for one dislike your posts because I know you intentionally write irrational posts to help support your religious cause"
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"As for who plays 'word-games ' , it seems that you missed this ... # 19 `` New peppered moth stuff `` He went on for some time trying to undermine my posts based on the use of a word which most people have a problem with . There 's also the problem with Darwin claiming a tautology was a better term than `` Natural Selection `` , this was debated for some time , even though I posted the actual words of Darwin . The thread `` Unto the Ages of Ages `` developed into a debate over whether something could be both `` more accurate ' and wrong , thanks Ursus ! WJA and SLP argued over the word 'applied ' , then 'published ' ; whether Dembski had , and then changed this to 'proved ' ( see `` Looking for intelligence `` thread ) Lurch/Ungerdunn etc over what is a 'noun ' . Multiple personalities aside , this debate over 'nouns ' lasted for months . He resorted to no better argument then 'you 're wrong ' . A great debating style ! As for debating styles .... Waxy enters a debate on Science/Math says that I 've been refuted somewhere else , by someone else , and then leaves ; does the same thing on these Creation/Evolution debates ... only adds a few insults in the process ... not wishing to debate , just to name call . Mach is happy to admit he does n't read my posts/skims over them but wants to both debate and not debate them - claiming he 's got a time problem ... and asks me to post stuff he 's already replied to Would you count as a word-game the two incidents where you 've made a claim about me being insulting , and when I 've asked you to point it out , you ca n't ? One time you were so flustered you told me you were going to warn everyone about me . You make allegations then do n't back them up . Archilochus makes allegations that I do n't understand the word 'chance ' but is un-prepared to come up with a definition , just repeats that I do n't understand it . He 'll go on repeating this , because it is a replacement for debate . All the while you guys are very shy when it comes to debating each other 's mistakes ; such as Hank describing the world as egg-shaped , etc . In short you make so many 'just-so ' statements with little recourse to evidence , in an effort to drown out anyone who differs in opinion from yourself . Hence the total unwillingness to seriously tackle anyone from your own side who is either a ) wrong or b ) rude But in short , if someone posts here a statement , and they ca n't even be sure what they mean by it , then it does n't bode well . That is what has upset a number of people ; when this has been pointed out . This is also why many pro-evolutionists are so quick to resort to ad hominem here . That 's what this thread of yours is an attempt at - and at best it is something that suggests only other people are guilty of this crime ."
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"No , I for one dislike your posts because I know you intentionally write irrational posts to help support your religious cause . Just for the record montalban , basically every single legitimate scientist is `` pro-evolution `` . Creation theory is not taught in public schools , not by chance , but because ... * gasp * it 's RELIGIOUS MUMBO JUMBO . There is no evidence to support it . Creation fiction has made no progress with it 's `` faith-based `` ( lackofevidence ) with rational people . And I 'll also say that I 'd welcome ad hominem over irrational thinking any day . Ad hominem is just a lack of patience , or someone who does n't care to hide their emotion or opinion . Irrational thinking on the other hand is often only cured by death . Someone guilty of ad hominem can still hold a rational debate . The irrational .. well , why bother ? -Mach"
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"Mach is happy to admit he does n't read my posts/skims over them but wants to both debate and not debate them - claiming he 's got a time problem ... and asks me to post stuff he 's already replied to"
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"No , I for one dislike your posts because I know you intentionally write irrational posts to help support your religious cause . ``"
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"Southern Policy law Center ( SPLC ) SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers I did not post this because of any pertinent relevance , but this statement FINALLY Clears it all up ! Now I know what a hate group is ! I finally get it !"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group . The military is of such low intellect that they are easy to sway into hate groups . Hence the homeland insecurity warning on returning veterans ."
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"SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers I did not post"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group ."
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"Southern Policy law Center ( SPLC ) SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers I did not post this because of any pertinent relevance , but this statement FINALLY Clears it all up ! Now I know what a hate group is ! I finally get it !"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group . The military is of such low intellect that they are easy to sway into hate groups . Hence the homeland insecurity warning on returning veterans ."
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"continues hate smear against Oath Keepers but this statement FINALLY Clears it all up ! Now I know what a hate group is ! I finally get it !"
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"any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group ."
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"Southern Policy law Center ( SPLC ) SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers I did not post this because of any pertinent relevance , but this statement FINALLY Clears it all up ! Now I know what a hate group is ! I finally get it !"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group . The military is of such low intellect that they are easy to sway into hate groups . Hence the homeland insecurity warning on returning veterans ."
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"SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group ."
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"Southern Policy law Center ( SPLC ) SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers I did not post this because of any pertinent relevance , but this statement FINALLY Clears it all up ! Now I know what a hate group is ! I finally get it !"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group . The military is of such low intellect that they are easy to sway into hate groups . Hence the homeland insecurity warning on returning veterans ."
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"continues hate smear against Oath Keepers"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group"
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"Southern Policy law Center ( SPLC ) SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers I did not post this because of any pertinent relevance , but this statement FINALLY Clears it all up ! Now I know what a hate group is ! I finally get it !"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group . The military is of such low intellect that they are easy to sway into hate groups . Hence the homeland insecurity warning on returning veterans ."
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"SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers"
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"any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group"
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"Southern Policy law Center ( SPLC ) SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers I did not post this because of any pertinent relevance , but this statement FINALLY Clears it all up ! Now I know what a hate group is ! I finally get it !"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group . The military is of such low intellect that they are easy to sway into hate groups . Hence the homeland insecurity warning on returning veterans ."
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"Southern Policy law Center ( SPLC ) SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group"
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"Southern Policy law Center ( SPLC ) SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers I did not post this because of any pertinent relevance , but this statement FINALLY Clears it all up ! Now I know what a hate group is ! I finally get it !"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group . The military is of such low intellect that they are easy to sway into hate groups . Hence the homeland insecurity warning on returning veterans ."
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"Southern Policy law Center ( SPLC ) SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group ."
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"Southern Policy law Center ( SPLC ) SPLC continues hate smear against Oath Keepers I did not post this because of any pertinent relevance , but this statement FINALLY Clears it all up ! Now I know what a hate group is ! I finally get it !"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group . The military is of such low intellect that they are easy to sway into hate groups . Hence the homeland insecurity warning on returning veterans ."
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"Now I know what a hate group is ! I finally get it !"
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"Well any group or individual not spouting left-tard drivel is actually a hate group ."
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"Which is why the `` medical establishment `` endorses smoking , drinking heavily and a fatty diet , with no excercise , because they believe we are predestined by our genes , right ? Why do you persist with these blatant lies ?"
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"Hit that one right on the head , Symbiote . I 'd like to hear supersport 's response to this ."
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", believe we are predestined by our genes persist with these blatant lies ?"
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"Hit that one right on the head , Symbiote"
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"Which is why the `` medical establishment `` endorses smoking , drinking heavily and a fatty diet , with no excercise , because they believe we are predestined by our genes , right ? Why do you persist with these blatant lies ?"
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"Hit that one right on the head , Symbiote . I 'd like to hear supersport 's response to this ."
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"medical establishment `` endorses smoking , drinking heavily and a fatty diet , because they believe we are predestined by our genes , right ? Why do you persist with these blatant lies ?"
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"Hit that one right on the head , Symbiote . I 'd like to hear supersport 's response to this ."
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"Which is why the `` medical establishment `` endorses smoking , drinking heavily and a fatty diet , with no excercise , because they believe we are predestined by our genes , right ? Why do you persist with these blatant lies ?"
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"Hit that one right on the head , Symbiote . I 'd like to hear supersport 's response to this ."
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"Which is why the `` medical establishment `` endorses smoking , drinking heavily and a fatty diet , with no excercise , because they believe we are predestined by our genes , right ?"
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"Hit that one right on the head , Symbiote ."
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"Which is why the `` medical establishment `` endorses smoking , drinking heavily and a fatty diet , with no excercise , because they believe we are predestined by our genes , right ? Why do you persist with these blatant lies ?"
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"Hit that one right on the head , Symbiote . I 'd like to hear supersport 's response to this ."
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"Which is why the `` medical establishment"
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"I 'd like to hear supersport 's response to this"
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"Which is why the `` medical establishment `` endorses smoking , drinking heavily and a fatty diet , with no excercise , because they believe we are predestined by our genes , right ? Why do you persist with these blatant lies ?"
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"Hit that one right on the head , Symbiote . I 'd like to hear supersport 's response to this ."
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"the , right"
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"the ,"
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"Which is why the `` medical establishment `` endorses smoking , drinking heavily and a fatty diet , with no excercise , because they believe we are predestined by our genes , right ? Why do you persist with these blatant lies ?"
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"Hit that one right on the head , Symbiote . I 'd like to hear supersport 's response to this ."
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"Why do you persist with these blatant lies ?"
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"I 'd like to hear supersport 's response to this ."
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime . This is a more public way of discussing it . If they fail to post , it more or less means they are not willing to argue it . If they post , then they open themselves up . Everytime Marc and SS come to this forum they will see this thread waiting for them ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime If they post , then they open themselves up ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime . This is a more public way of discussing it . If they fail to post , it more or less means they are not willing to argue it . If they post , then they open themselves up . Everytime Marc and SS come to this forum they will see this thread waiting for them ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"will see this thread waiting for them"
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"put it in the form of a resolution , debate challanges forum"
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime . This is a more public way of discussing it . If they fail to post , it more or less means they are not willing to argue it . If they post , then they open themselves up . Everytime Marc and SS come to this forum they will see this thread waiting for them ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"Everytime Marc and SS come to this forum they will see this thread waiting for them ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime . This is a more public way of discussing it . If they fail to post , it more or less means they are not willing to argue it . If they post , then they open themselves up . Everytime Marc and SS come to this forum they will see this thread waiting for them ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"Everytime Marc and SS"
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution"
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime . This is a more public way of discussing it . If they fail to post , it more or less means they are not willing to argue it . If they post , then they open themselves up . Everytime Marc and SS come to this forum they will see this thread waiting for them ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"The question has been asked point blank several times ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution"
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime . This is a more public way of discussing it . If they fail to post , it more or less means they are not willing to argue it . If they post , then they open themselves up . Everytime Marc and SS come to this forum they will see this thread waiting for them ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"It 's been ignored everytime ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime . This is a more public way of discussing it . If they fail to post , it more or less means they are not willing to argue it . If they post , then they open themselves up . Everytime Marc and SS come to this forum they will see this thread waiting for them ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime . This is a more public way of discussing it . If they fail to post , it more or less means they are not willing to argue it . If they post , then they open themselves up . Everytime Marc and SS come to this forum they will see this thread waiting for them ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime ."
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"put it in the form of a resolution"
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"The question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime . This is a more public way of discussing it . If they fail to post , it more or less means they are not willing to argue it . If they post , then they open themselves up . Everytime Marc and SS come to this forum they will see this thread waiting for them ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum ."
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"question has been asked point blank several times . It 's been ignored everytime ."
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"You could put it in the form of a resolution , in the debate challanges forum"
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"I have to watch for snares now ? I didn ’ t say it , nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls ."
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"Well , assuming that when the Bible says `` you `` in passages that are telling `` you `` to do something with your soul , I would hope that it also applies to women . But it never comes out and says `` women and men have souls. `` This does n't mean they do n't have them . Same thing with animals . The book is n't written for non-humans , so when it says `` you `` we can assume it does n't refer to non-humans . But the book never says `` animals do n't have souls. `` So we ca n't assume that they do n't ( according to the bible ) ."
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"I didn ’ t say it , nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls ."
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"I would hope that it also applies to women . But the book never says `` animals do n't have souls. `` So we ca n't assume that they do n't ( according to the bible ) ."
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"I have to watch for snares now ? I didn ’ t say it , nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls ."
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"Well , assuming that when the Bible says `` you `` in passages that are telling `` you `` to do something with your soul , I would hope that it also applies to women . But it never comes out and says `` women and men have souls. `` This does n't mean they do n't have them . Same thing with animals . The book is n't written for non-humans , so when it says `` you `` we can assume it does n't refer to non-humans . But the book never says `` animals do n't have souls. `` So we ca n't assume that they do n't ( according to the bible ) ."
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"I ’ t say it , nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls ."
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"when the Bible says `` you `` in passages that are telling `` you `` to do something with your soul , I would hope that it also applies to women . But it never comes out and says `` women and men have"
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331 | 123 |
"I have to watch for snares now ? I didn ’ t say it , nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls ."
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"Well , assuming that when the Bible says `` you `` in passages that are telling `` you `` to do something with your soul , I would hope that it also applies to women . But it never comes out and says `` women and men have souls. `` This does n't mean they do n't have them . Same thing with animals . The book is n't written for non-humans , so when it says `` you `` we can assume it does n't refer to non-humans . But the book never says `` animals do n't have souls. `` So we ca n't assume that they do n't ( according to the bible ) ."
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"I have to watch for snares now ? I didn ’ t say it , nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls ."
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"Well , assuming that when the Bible says `` you `` in passages that are telling `` you `` to do something with your soul , I would hope that it also applies to women"
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333 | 123 |
"I have to watch for snares now ? I didn ’ t say it , nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls ."
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"Well , assuming that when the Bible says `` you `` in passages that are telling `` you `` to do something with your soul , I would hope that it also applies to women . But it never comes out and says `` women and men have souls. `` This does n't mean they do n't have them . Same thing with animals . The book is n't written for non-humans , so when it says `` you `` we can assume it does n't refer to non-humans . But the book never says `` animals do n't have souls. `` So we ca n't assume that they do n't ( according to the bible ) ."
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DISAGREE
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"nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls"
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"Well , assuming that when the Bible says `` you `` in passages that are telling `` you `` to do something with your soul"
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327 | 123 |
"I have to watch for snares now ? I didn ’ t say it , nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls ."
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"Well , assuming that when the Bible says `` you `` in passages that are telling `` you `` to do something with your soul , I would hope that it also applies to women . But it never comes out and says `` women and men have souls. `` This does n't mean they do n't have them . Same thing with animals . The book is n't written for non-humans , so when it says `` you `` we can assume it does n't refer to non-humans . But the book never says `` animals do n't have souls. `` So we ca n't assume that they do n't ( according to the bible ) ."
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"only males of the human race have souls ."
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"But the book never says `` animals do n't have"
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329 | 123 |
"I have to watch for snares now ? I didn ’ t say it , nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls ."
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"Well , assuming that when the Bible says `` you `` in passages that are telling `` you `` to do something with your soul , I would hope that it also applies to women . But it never comes out and says `` women and men have souls. `` This does n't mean they do n't have them . Same thing with animals . The book is n't written for non-humans , so when it says `` you `` we can assume it does n't refer to non-humans . But the book never says `` animals do n't have souls. `` So we ca n't assume that they do n't ( according to the bible ) ."
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DISAGREE
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"I have to watch for snares now ?"
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"The book is n't written for non-humans , so when it says `` you `` we can assume it does n't refer to non-humans"
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326 | 123 |
"I have to watch for snares now ? I didn ’ t say it , nor does the Bible , that only males of the human race have souls ."
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"Well , assuming that when the Bible says `` you `` in passages that are telling `` you `` to do something with your soul , I would hope that it also applies to women . But it never comes out and says `` women and men have souls. `` This does n't mean they do n't have them . Same thing with animals . The book is n't written for non-humans , so when it says `` you `` we can assume it does n't refer to non-humans . But the book never says `` animals do n't have souls. `` So we ca n't assume that they do n't ( according to the bible ) ."
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DISAGREE
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"only males of the human race"
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" would hope that it also applies to women does n't mean they do n't have them"
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338 | 124 |
"I 'm calling you out . Exactly what is the street price for an AK-47 in Miami ? Obviously you have the answer to this question , along with evidence that your answer is correct and factual , or you 're just trolling and trying to derail a serious discussion , proving that you have nothing to contribute ."
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"My bet is on the latter since I have yet to see any serious debate beyond insults from it . Since it is West Palm Beach police department doing the deal Miami is out in left field . Pardon the redundancy ."
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AGREE
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"Exactly what is the street price for an AK-47 in Miami ?"
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"My bet is on the latter since I have yet to see any serious debate beyond insults from it"
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339 | 124 |
"I 'm calling you out . Exactly what is the street price for an AK-47 in Miami ? Obviously you have the answer to this question , along with evidence that your answer is correct and factual , or you 're just trolling and trying to derail a serious discussion , proving that you have nothing to contribute ."
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"My bet is on the latter since I have yet to see any serious debate beyond insults from it . Since it is West Palm Beach police department doing the deal Miami is out in left field . Pardon the redundancy ."
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AGREE
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"I 'm calling you out . Exactly what is the street price for an AK-47 in Miami ?"
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"My bet is on the latter since I have yet to see any serious debate beyond insults from it"
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342 | 124 |
"I 'm calling you out . Exactly what is the street price for an AK-47 in Miami ? Obviously you have the answer to this question , along with evidence that your answer is correct and factual , or you 're just trolling and trying to derail a serious discussion , proving that you have nothing to contribute ."
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"My bet is on the latter since I have yet to see any serious debate beyond insults from it . Since it is West Palm Beach police department doing the deal Miami is out in left field . Pardon the redundancy ."
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AGREE
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"you 're just trolling and trying to derail a serious discussion ,"
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"Pardon the redundancy"
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343 | 124 |
"I 'm calling you out . Exactly what is the street price for an AK-47 in Miami ? Obviously you have the answer to this question , along with evidence that your answer is correct and factual , or you 're just trolling and trying to derail a serious discussion , proving that you have nothing to contribute ."
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"My bet is on the latter since I have yet to see any serious debate beyond insults from it . Since it is West Palm Beach police department doing the deal Miami is out in left field . Pardon the redundancy ."
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AGREE
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"trying to derail a serious discussion nothing to contribute"
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"yet to see any serious debate"
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335 | 124 |
"I 'm calling you out . Exactly what is the street price for an AK-47 in Miami ? Obviously you have the answer to this question , along with evidence that your answer is correct and factual , or you 're just trolling and trying to derail a serious discussion , proving that you have nothing to contribute ."
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"My bet is on the latter since I have yet to see any serious debate beyond insults from it . Since it is West Palm Beach police department doing the deal Miami is out in left field . Pardon the redundancy ."
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AGREE
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"I 'm calling you out . Exactly what is the street price for an AK-47 in Miami ? Obviously you have the answer to this question"
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"Miami is out in left field . Pardon the redundancy ."
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341 | 124 |
"I 'm calling you out . Exactly what is the street price for an AK-47 in Miami ? Obviously you have the answer to this question , along with evidence that your answer is correct and factual , or you 're just trolling and trying to derail a serious discussion , proving that you have nothing to contribute ."
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"My bet is on the latter since I have yet to see any serious debate beyond insults from it . Since it is West Palm Beach police department doing the deal Miami is out in left field . Pardon the redundancy ."
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AGREE
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"Obviously you have the answer to this question ,"
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"Pardon the redundancy ."
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340 | 124 |
"I 'm calling you out . Exactly what is the street price for an AK-47 in Miami ? Obviously you have the answer to this question , along with evidence that your answer is correct and factual , or you 're just trolling and trying to derail a serious discussion , proving that you have nothing to contribute ."
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"My bet is on the latter since I have yet to see any serious debate beyond insults from it . Since it is West Palm Beach police department doing the deal Miami is out in left field . Pardon the redundancy ."
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"I 'm calling you you have the answer to this question , along with evidence that your answer is correct and factual , or you 're just trolling"
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"My bet is on the latter"
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352 | 125 |
"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science , so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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"something even if it 's scientific , why should I"
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"why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs"
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351 | 125 |
"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science , so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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DISAGREE
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"should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I"
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"why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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345 | 125 |
"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science , so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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DISAGREE
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"they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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349 | 125 |
"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science , so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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DISAGREE
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"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific"
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science"
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344 | 125 |
"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science , so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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DISAGREE
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"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it ."
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"Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science , so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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350 | 125 |
"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science , so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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DISAGREE
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"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's"
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs"
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347 | 125 |
"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science , so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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DISAGREE
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"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ?"
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348 | 125 |
"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science , so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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DISAGREE
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"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific ,"
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ?"
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346 | 125 |
"If I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it . If they do n't believe in what they 're selling , why should I ."
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science , so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant ."
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DISAGREE
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"I am to believe in something even if it 's scientific , I should be able to challenge the belief 's of the person who 's pushing it"
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"So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science ? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science"
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354 | 126 |
"Cybererratus , is Gary Ridgway something of a hero to you ?"
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"Could you avoid your constant use of strawman ` s fallacies please ?"
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DISAGREE
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"is Gary Ridgway something of a hero to you ?"
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"Could you avoid your constant use of strawman s fallacies please ?"
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361 | 126 |
"Cybererratus , is Gary Ridgway something of a hero to you ?"
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"Could you avoid your constant use of strawman ` s fallacies please ?"
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DISAGREE
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"something of a hero to you ?"
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"Could you avoid your constant use"
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356 | 126 |
"Cybererratus , is Gary Ridgway something of a hero to you ?"
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"Could you avoid your constant use of strawman ` s fallacies please ?"
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DISAGREE
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"Cybererratus , is Gary Ridgway something of a hero to you ?"
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"Could you avoid your constant use of strawman s fallacies please ?"
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353 | 126 |
"Cybererratus , is Gary Ridgway something of a hero to you ?"
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"Could you avoid your constant use of strawman ` s fallacies please ?"
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DISAGREE
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"is Gary Ridgway something of a hero to you ?"
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"avoid your constant use of strawman s fallacies"
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364 | 127 |
"This error becomes immediately evident if we amend Thompson 's illustration . What if the mother woke up from an accident to find herself surgically connected to her own child ? What kind of mother would willingly cut the life-support system to her two-year-old in a situation like that ? And what would we think of her if she did ?"
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"Irrelevant . Whatever kind of person or mother she is , the argument would apply ."
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DISAGREE
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"What if the mother woke up from an accident to find herself surgically connected to her own child ? What kind of mother would willingly cut the life-support system to her two-year-old in a situation like that ?"
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"Irrelevant . Whatever kind of person or mother she is , the argument would apply"
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362 | 127 |
"This error becomes immediately evident if we amend Thompson 's illustration . What if the mother woke up from an accident to find herself surgically connected to her own child ? What kind of mother would willingly cut the life-support system to her two-year-old in a situation like that ? And what would we think of her if she did ?"
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"Irrelevant . Whatever kind of person or mother she is , the argument would apply ."
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DISAGREE
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"if the mother woke up from an accident to find herself surgically connected to her own child ? What kind of mother would willingly cut the life-support system to her two-year-old"
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"Irrelevant . the argument would apply ."
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368 | 127 |
"This error becomes immediately evident if we amend Thompson 's illustration . What if the mother woke up from an accident to find herself surgically connected to her own child ? What kind of mother would willingly cut the life-support system to her two-year-old in a situation like that ? And what would we think of her if she did ?"
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"Irrelevant . Whatever kind of person or mother she is , the argument would apply ."
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DISAGREE
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"What if the mother woke up from an accident to find herself surgically connected to her own child"
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"the"
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366 | 127 |
"This error becomes immediately evident if we amend Thompson 's illustration . What if the mother woke up from an accident to find herself surgically connected to her own child ? What kind of mother would willingly cut the life-support system to her two-year-old in a situation like that ? And what would we think of her if she did ?"
|
"Irrelevant . Whatever kind of person or mother she is , the argument would apply ."
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DISAGREE
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"This error becomes immediately evident if we amend Thompson 's illustration"
|
"Irrelevant"
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371 | 128 |
"18th Century Pennsylvania , which had its own RKBA , passed a law which required citizens to take an oath of allegiance to the state or face being disarmed . This was to protect the state against those who might be loyal to the British Crown . So why ca n't the US take similar measures to protect itself against terrorists ?"
|
"Because there 's absolutely no due process in this proposal . Your name is on the list , your rights are revoked . That 's not due process . There 's no court of law , no trial , no verdict , no attorneys , no chance for the accused to defend themselves , etc . We still have n't forgotten the Homeland Security memo that said veterans and those opposed to abortion could be potential terrorists ."
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DISAGREE
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"RKBA , passed a law which required citizens to take an oath of allegiance to the state or face being disarmed"
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"Because there 's absolutely no due process in this proposal . Your name is on the list , your rights are revoked ."
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374 | 128 |
"18th Century Pennsylvania , which had its own RKBA , passed a law which required citizens to take an oath of allegiance to the state or face being disarmed . This was to protect the state against those who might be loyal to the British Crown . So why ca n't the US take similar measures to protect itself against terrorists ?"
|
"Because there 's absolutely no due process in this proposal . Your name is on the list , your rights are revoked . That 's not due process . There 's no court of law , no trial , no verdict , no attorneys , no chance for the accused to defend themselves , etc . We still have n't forgotten the Homeland Security memo that said veterans and those opposed to abortion could be potential terrorists ."
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DISAGREE
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"why ca n't the US take similar measures to protect itself against terrorists ?"
|
"Because there 's absolutely no due process in this proposal"
| null | null |
377 | 128 |
"18th Century Pennsylvania , which had its own RKBA , passed a law which required citizens to take an oath of allegiance to the state or face being disarmed . This was to protect the state against those who might be loyal to the British Crown . So why ca n't the US take similar measures to protect itself against terrorists ?"
|
"Because there 's absolutely no due process in this proposal . Your name is on the list , your rights are revoked . That 's not due process . There 's no court of law , no trial , no verdict , no attorneys , no chance for the accused to defend themselves , etc . We still have n't forgotten the Homeland Security memo that said veterans and those opposed to abortion could be potential terrorists ."
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DISAGREE
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"which required citizens to take an oath of allegiance to the state or face being disarmed"
|
"no attorneys , no chance for the accused to defend themselves , etc"
| null | null |
373 | 128 |
"18th Century Pennsylvania , which had its own RKBA , passed a law which required citizens to take an oath of allegiance to the state or face being disarmed . This was to protect the state against those who might be loyal to the British Crown . So why ca n't the US take similar measures to protect itself against terrorists ?"
|
"Because there 's absolutely no due process in this proposal . Your name is on the list , your rights are revoked . That 's not due process . There 's no court of law , no trial , no verdict , no attorneys , no chance for the accused to defend themselves , etc . We still have n't forgotten the Homeland Security memo that said veterans and those opposed to abortion could be potential terrorists ."
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DISAGREE
|
"law which required citizens to take an oath of allegiance to the state or face being disarmed . why ca n't the US take similar measures to protect itself against terrorists ?"
|
"Because there 's absolutely no due process in this proposal"
| null | null |
378 | 128 |
"18th Century Pennsylvania , which had its own RKBA , passed a law which required citizens to take an oath of allegiance to the state or face being disarmed . This was to protect the state against those who might be loyal to the British Crown . So why ca n't the US take similar measures to protect itself against terrorists ?"
|
"Because there 's absolutely no due process in this proposal . Your name is on the list , your rights are revoked . That 's not due process . There 's no court of law , no trial , no verdict , no attorneys , no chance for the accused to defend themselves , etc . We still have n't forgotten the Homeland Security memo that said veterans and those opposed to abortion could be potential terrorists ."
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DISAGREE
|
"passed a law allegiance to the state"
|
"process in this proposal not due process"
| null | null |
380 | 128 |
"18th Century Pennsylvania , which had its own RKBA , passed a law which required citizens to take an oath of allegiance to the state or face being disarmed . This was to protect the state against those who might be loyal to the British Crown . So why ca n't the US take similar measures to protect itself against terrorists ?"
|
"Because there 's absolutely no due process in this proposal . Your name is on the list , your rights are revoked . That 's not due process . There 's no court of law , no trial , no verdict , no attorneys , no chance for the accused to defend themselves , etc . We still have n't forgotten the Homeland Security memo that said veterans and those opposed to abortion could be potential terrorists ."
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DISAGREE
|
"This was to protect the state against those who might be loyal to the British Crown ."
|
"Your name is on the list , your rights are revoked . That 's not due process ."
| null | null |
376 | 128 |
"18th Century Pennsylvania , which had its own RKBA , passed a law which required citizens to take an oath of allegiance to the state or face being disarmed . This was to protect the state against those who might be loyal to the British Crown . So why ca n't the US take similar measures to protect itself against terrorists ?"
|
"Because there 's absolutely no due process in this proposal . Your name is on the list , your rights are revoked . That 's not due process . There 's no court of law , no trial , no verdict , no attorneys , no chance for the accused to defend themselves , etc . We still have n't forgotten the Homeland Security memo that said veterans and those opposed to abortion could be potential terrorists ."
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DISAGREE
|
"Pennsylvania , a citizens to take of the or . Crown . ?"
|
"in this . the , of to We that said and be"
| null | null |
387 | 129 |
"Galileo- The Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with being part of any militia group , organized or otherwise , it 's not about serving any duty to the state or government ."
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"Well if it has nothing to do with a militia that would mean that the preamble is merely unnecessary verbiage . So you want people to just ignore the plain text of the Second Amendment- at least the part you do n't like . The preamble lets us know that the main focus if not the sole focus of this amendment is the militia . David Konig is another historian that has found both the individual rights interpretation and the collective interpretation unsatisfactory . He says the Second Amendment protects an individual right that is exercised collectively . '' Indeed , to serve in the militia and participate in this civic duty was more than a duty : it was a civic right of a peculiarly eighteenth-century nature unlike either the 'individual ' or 'collective ' models argued for today . On neither side of the Atlantic , that is , did the debate concern itself with this right in the present-day sense of an 'individual ' or personal constitutional right ; but at the same time , its common emphasis on widespread individual arms-bearing for public service distinguishes it from today 's narrowly applied 'collective ' application to the National Guard . No individual right existed unrelated to service in a well-regulated militia ; no effective militia could serve its purpose without an armed citizenry . This type of right may appear paradoxical to us today , but it fitted 'the inner coherence of a given system of beliefs ' 4 held by people in the past , and which made sense to those familiar with the concept of an individual right exercised collectively. `` David Thomas Konig | The Second Amendment : A Missing Transatlantic Context for the Historical Meaning of `` the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms `` | Law and History Review , 22.1 | The History Cooperative"
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DISAGREE
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"Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with being part of any militia group , organized or otherwise , it 's not about serving any duty to the state or government ."
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"The preamble lets us know that the main focus if not the sole focus of this amendment is the militia ."
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