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"What parts of the Bible are true , and how do you disguingish between the information that is true and not true ?"
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"This is not my problem . As I explained above , I just have to show inconsistency in order to reject the validity of all the claims in the Bible as being undeniable truth . And with the Bible , that 's damn easy to do ."
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"What parts of the Bible are true , and how do you disguingish between the information that is true and not true ?"
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"This is not my problem . As I explained above ,"
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1,858 | 503 |
"I know it irks you that your faith can not be proven , but that 's the definition of faith ! ! It would n't be faith without it . Why then look for support from reason ?"
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"Oh , I am just so bothered and annoyed that I ca n't prove my faith ! ! ! Actually , I 'm not really that bothered nor annoyed . I know that all the evidence points to creation , i.e . the creation interpretation makes more sense than the evolutionary interpretation . There is very good evidence to suggest the existence of God , for one , the fact that we are all still here is one . If there were no God , than this whole universe would cease to function . I believe the laws of nature and our sciences are man 's attempt to describe the normal ways that God upholds His creation . When He acts differently , a miracle occurs . Of course , this is based on the belief that the Bible is true . Many other great scientists , including Newton and Galileo also seemed to believe that science and Christianity were compatible . Reason stems from the belief that the universe is orderly , rational and logical . By the dictionary , reason is the intellectual faculty by which conclusions are drawn from premises . Now , if we are accidents of pure chance ( which evolution teaches ) than the thought patters that determine your logic are also products of chance . If your logic is the result of chance processes , you ca n't even be sure it evolved properly . This is just to show that with evolution , you ca n't be sure of anything , because everything is just an accident . But with an orderly and rational Creator , you can be sure of things and be able to reason ."
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"I know it irks you that your faith can not be proven , but that 's the definition of faith ! ! It would n't be faith without it ."
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"I am just so bothered and annoyed that I ca n't prove my faith ! ! ! Actually , I 'm not really that bothered nor annoyed ."
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1,860 | 503 |
"I know it irks you that your faith can not be proven , but that 's the definition of faith ! ! It would n't be faith without it . Why then look for support from reason ?"
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"Oh , I am just so bothered and annoyed that I ca n't prove my faith ! ! ! Actually , I 'm not really that bothered nor annoyed . I know that all the evidence points to creation , i.e . the creation interpretation makes more sense than the evolutionary interpretation . There is very good evidence to suggest the existence of God , for one , the fact that we are all still here is one . If there were no God , than this whole universe would cease to function . I believe the laws of nature and our sciences are man 's attempt to describe the normal ways that God upholds His creation . When He acts differently , a miracle occurs . Of course , this is based on the belief that the Bible is true . Many other great scientists , including Newton and Galileo also seemed to believe that science and Christianity were compatible . Reason stems from the belief that the universe is orderly , rational and logical . By the dictionary , reason is the intellectual faculty by which conclusions are drawn from premises . Now , if we are accidents of pure chance ( which evolution teaches ) than the thought patters that determine your logic are also products of chance . If your logic is the result of chance processes , you ca n't even be sure it evolved properly . This is just to show that with evolution , you ca n't be sure of anything , because everything is just an accident . But with an orderly and rational Creator , you can be sure of things and be able to reason ."
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"it irks you that your faith can not be proven , but that 's the definition of faith ! ! It would n't be faith without it"
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"I 'm not really that bothered nor annoyed . I know that all the evidence points to creation"
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1,859 | 503 |
"I know it irks you that your faith can not be proven , but that 's the definition of faith ! ! It would n't be faith without it . Why then look for support from reason ?"
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"Oh , I am just so bothered and annoyed that I ca n't prove my faith ! ! ! Actually , I 'm not really that bothered nor annoyed . I know that all the evidence points to creation , i.e . the creation interpretation makes more sense than the evolutionary interpretation . There is very good evidence to suggest the existence of God , for one , the fact that we are all still here is one . If there were no God , than this whole universe would cease to function . I believe the laws of nature and our sciences are man 's attempt to describe the normal ways that God upholds His creation . When He acts differently , a miracle occurs . Of course , this is based on the belief that the Bible is true . Many other great scientists , including Newton and Galileo also seemed to believe that science and Christianity were compatible . Reason stems from the belief that the universe is orderly , rational and logical . By the dictionary , reason is the intellectual faculty by which conclusions are drawn from premises . Now , if we are accidents of pure chance ( which evolution teaches ) than the thought patters that determine your logic are also products of chance . If your logic is the result of chance processes , you ca n't even be sure it evolved properly . This is just to show that with evolution , you ca n't be sure of anything , because everything is just an accident . But with an orderly and rational Creator , you can be sure of things and be able to reason ."
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"I know it irks you that your faith can not be proven definition of faith Why then look for support from reason ?"
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"Actually , I 'm not really that bothered nor annoyed . all the evidence points to creation But with an orderly and rational Creator , you can be sure of things and be able to reason ."
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1,861 | 504 |
"I ca n't think of any good reason to qualify the delivery of healthcare other than need for a physician . Where one lives or does n't live , makes no difference , and neither does the fact that a person has broken the law . Health care is a civil and human right in a democratic society ."
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"Show me where healthcare can be found in the Constitution as a guaranteed right . Just saying so does n't cut it . We are ( or were , any way ) a nation of laws ."
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"Health care civil and human right democratic society"
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"healthcare Constitution guaranteed right Just saying so does n't cut it nation of laws"
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1,865 | 505 |
"DNA does not dictate who we are ,"
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"Who ever made such an argument ?"
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"DNA does not dictate who we are"
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"Who ever made such an argument ?"
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1,866 | 505 |
"DNA does not dictate who we are ,"
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"Who ever made such an argument ?"
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"DNA does not dictate who we are"
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"Who ever made such an argument ?"
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1,867 | 505 |
"DNA does not dictate who we are ,"
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"Who ever made such an argument ?"
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"DNA does not dictate who we are"
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"Who ever made such an argument ?"
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1,864 | 505 |
"DNA does not dictate who we are ,"
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"Who ever made such an argument ?"
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"DNA does not dictate who we are ,"
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"Who ever made such an argument ?"
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1,869 | 506 |
"That is your right . But it does not make the `` Bang `` true ."
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"And you have a right to cling to superstition and magic as true . But that does n't make mythology true ."
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"That is your right . But it does not make the `` Bang `` true ."
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"And you have a right to cling to superstition and magic as true . But that does n't make mythology true ."
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1,870 | 506 |
"That is your right . But it does not make the `` Bang `` true ."
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"And you have a right to cling to superstition and magic as true . But that does n't make mythology true ."
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"That is your right . But it does not make the `` Bang `` true"
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"And you have a right to cling to superstition and magic as true . But that does n't make mythology true ."
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1,868 | 506 |
"That is your right . But it does not make the `` Bang `` true ."
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"And you have a right to cling to superstition and magic as true . But that does n't make mythology true ."
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"That is your right . But it does not make the `` Bang `` true ."
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"And you have a right cling to superstition and magic as true . But that does n't make mythology true ."
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1,872 | 507 |
"one other point , and i brought this up lots of times here and elsewhere , is that about `` christian/evolutionism hybrids `` . that is , those that disregard the genesis story in the light of `` modern discoveries `` , yet they believe that God exists and that salvation through jesus is attainable as the bible prescribes . while it is logically impossible to disregard genesis and at the same time accept the new testament , many people out there are comfortable with the idea . it totally eludes me though"
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"I think the christians you describe do not disregard creation in Genesis per sae . They would agree absolutely with your 2 fundemental truths at the start of your post . However , they do not see it as a history as such , but more as an analogy to what happened . Some take it simply to say that God created the universe and put a soul in humans and find the detail of that ( not the soul bit ) in what we have discovered through science . Others would say it becomes `` historical `` at a certain point- Adam and Eve or maybe Noah . I do n't think they are any less christian than those who choose to believe the story of creation literally , and it would surprise me to hear someone say that was the case . I think it does pose some awkward questions to hold such a view though , and while I do n't see all your 8 examples in your later post as being the ones I have heard , they are certainly of that nature . Christianity has struggled with the logical conclusions of observation of the physical world for much time . Some of the examples from history are amusing today- the Omphilodian Heresy where the very discussion of whether Adam and Eve had navels was a heinous religous crime . The Heliocentricity debate where the Catholic Church eventually relented their scripture based denial of the earth orbiting the sun . And today the debate over the old earth and evolution . This seems to arrive from the fact that the religon is so encompassing in its assertion of truth . While this helps to create a powerful system of belief , it can put it in an awkward position when new discovery is made . The nature of peolpe seems to be the same conflicts have arisen again and again- with just the point of contention changing ."
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"those that disregard the genesis story in the light of `` modern discoveries"
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"I think the christians you describe do not disregard creation in Genesis per ``"
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1,875 | 507 |
"one other point , and i brought this up lots of times here and elsewhere , is that about `` christian/evolutionism hybrids `` . that is , those that disregard the genesis story in the light of `` modern discoveries `` , yet they believe that God exists and that salvation through jesus is attainable as the bible prescribes . while it is logically impossible to disregard genesis and at the same time accept the new testament , many people out there are comfortable with the idea . it totally eludes me though"
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"I think the christians you describe do not disregard creation in Genesis per sae . They would agree absolutely with your 2 fundemental truths at the start of your post . However , they do not see it as a history as such , but more as an analogy to what happened . Some take it simply to say that God created the universe and put a soul in humans and find the detail of that ( not the soul bit ) in what we have discovered through science . Others would say it becomes `` historical `` at a certain point- Adam and Eve or maybe Noah . I do n't think they are any less christian than those who choose to believe the story of creation literally , and it would surprise me to hear someone say that was the case . I think it does pose some awkward questions to hold such a view though , and while I do n't see all your 8 examples in your later post as being the ones I have heard , they are certainly of that nature . Christianity has struggled with the logical conclusions of observation of the physical world for much time . Some of the examples from history are amusing today- the Omphilodian Heresy where the very discussion of whether Adam and Eve had navels was a heinous religous crime . The Heliocentricity debate where the Catholic Church eventually relented their scripture based denial of the earth orbiting the sun . And today the debate over the old earth and evolution . This seems to arrive from the fact that the religon is so encompassing in its assertion of truth . While this helps to create a powerful system of belief , it can put it in an awkward position when new discovery is made . The nature of peolpe seems to be the same conflicts have arisen again and again- with just the point of contention changing ."
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"hybrids `` logically impossible to disregard genesis and at the same time accept the new testament"
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"they do not see it as a history as such , but more as an analogy to what happened ."
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1,874 | 507 |
"one other point , and i brought this up lots of times here and elsewhere , is that about `` christian/evolutionism hybrids `` . that is , those that disregard the genesis story in the light of `` modern discoveries `` , yet they believe that God exists and that salvation through jesus is attainable as the bible prescribes . while it is logically impossible to disregard genesis and at the same time accept the new testament , many people out there are comfortable with the idea . it totally eludes me though"
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"I think the christians you describe do not disregard creation in Genesis per sae . They would agree absolutely with your 2 fundemental truths at the start of your post . However , they do not see it as a history as such , but more as an analogy to what happened . Some take it simply to say that God created the universe and put a soul in humans and find the detail of that ( not the soul bit ) in what we have discovered through science . Others would say it becomes `` historical `` at a certain point- Adam and Eve or maybe Noah . I do n't think they are any less christian than those who choose to believe the story of creation literally , and it would surprise me to hear someone say that was the case . I think it does pose some awkward questions to hold such a view though , and while I do n't see all your 8 examples in your later post as being the ones I have heard , they are certainly of that nature . Christianity has struggled with the logical conclusions of observation of the physical world for much time . Some of the examples from history are amusing today- the Omphilodian Heresy where the very discussion of whether Adam and Eve had navels was a heinous religous crime . The Heliocentricity debate where the Catholic Church eventually relented their scripture based denial of the earth orbiting the sun . And today the debate over the old earth and evolution . This seems to arrive from the fact that the religon is so encompassing in its assertion of truth . While this helps to create a powerful system of belief , it can put it in an awkward position when new discovery is made . The nature of peolpe seems to be the same conflicts have arisen again and again- with just the point of contention changing ."
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"that is , those that disregard the genesis story in the light of `` modern discoveries `` , yet they believe that God exists and that salvation through jesus is attainable as the bible prescribes . while it is logically impossible to disregard genesis and at the same time accept the new testament , many people out there are comfortable with the idea . it totally eludes me though"
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"I think the christians you describe do not disregard creation in Genesis per sae . They would agree absolutely with your 2 fundemental truths at the start of your post . However , they do not see it as a history as such , but more as an analogy to what happened . `` Christianity has struggled with the logical conclusions of observation of the physical world for much time . Some of the examples from history are amusing today- the Omphilodian Heresy where the very discussion of whether Adam and Eve had navels was a heinous religous crime . The Heliocentricity debate where the Catholic Church eventually relented their scripture based denial of the earth orbiting the sun . nature of peolpe seems to be the same conflicts have arisen again and again- with just the point of contention changing ."
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"Is a fertilized egg , a zygote , an embryo , a fetus that valuable that a woman , her life , health or quality of life should be sacrificed for its sake"
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"quality of life ? yes it is reasonable to expect a quality of life ethic to take the backseat to a sanctity of life ethic . Health ? well , what is your definition of health ?"
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"Is a fertilized egg , a zygote , an embryo , a fetus that valuable that a woman , her life , health or quality of life should be sacrificed for its sake"
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"quality of life ? yes it is reasonable to expect a quality of life ethic to take the backseat to a sanctity of life ethic . Health ? well , what is your definition of health ?"
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1,876 | 508 |
"Is a fertilized egg , a zygote , an embryo , a fetus that valuable that a woman , her life , health or quality of life should be sacrificed for its sake"
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"quality of life ? yes it is reasonable to expect a quality of life ethic to take the backseat to a sanctity of life ethic . Health ? well , what is your definition of health ?"
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"health or quality of life should be sacrificed for its sake"
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"Health ? well , what is your definition of health ?"
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1,879 | 508 |
"Is a fertilized egg , a zygote , an embryo , a fetus that valuable that a woman , her life , health or quality of life should be sacrificed for its sake"
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"quality of life ? yes it is reasonable to expect a quality of life ethic to take the backseat to a sanctity of life ethic . Health ? well , what is your definition of health ?"
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"health quality of life"
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"quality of life ? yes it is reasonable to expect a quality of life ethic to take the backseat to a sanctity of life ethic Health ? well , what is your definition of health ?"
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1,883 | 509 |
"What is not only very interesting , but incredible is that in this whole thread this is the only post which has even attempted to answer the OP question . Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical CreationEverything else written has been personal attacks and non responses to the arguments I have posted . But at no time has anyone offered any actual evidence to prove anything I have said wrong , or any evidence that disproves biblical creation ."
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"Really ? Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Huh . It appears you have forgotten the very first page much less every other page as well . And no one refuted you ? http : //www.4forums.com/political/365160-post13.html Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Huh . More likes from the King of Liars . Do you really believe anyone takes you at face value anymore ? Btw , you still have n't addressed where the flood got its nearly 1 billion cubic miles of extra sediment ."
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"Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical CreationEverything else written has been personal attacks and non responses to the arguments I have posted . But at no time has anyone offered any actual evidence to prove anything I have said wrong , or any evidence that disproves biblical creation ."
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"Really ? Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Huh . It appears you have forgotten the very first page much less every other page as well"
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1,880 | 509 |
"What is not only very interesting , but incredible is that in this whole thread this is the only post which has even attempted to answer the OP question . Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical CreationEverything else written has been personal attacks and non responses to the arguments I have posted . But at no time has anyone offered any actual evidence to prove anything I have said wrong , or any evidence that disproves biblical creation ."
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"Really ? Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Huh . It appears you have forgotten the very first page much less every other page as well . And no one refuted you ? http : //www.4forums.com/political/365160-post13.html Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Huh . More likes from the King of Liars . Do you really believe anyone takes you at face value anymore ? Btw , you still have n't addressed where the flood got its nearly 1 billion cubic miles of extra sediment ."
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"at no time has anyone offered any actual evidence to prove anything I have said wrong , or any evidence that disproves biblical creation ."
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"Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation"
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1,881 | 509 |
"What is not only very interesting , but incredible is that in this whole thread this is the only post which has even attempted to answer the OP question . Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical CreationEverything else written has been personal attacks and non responses to the arguments I have posted . But at no time has anyone offered any actual evidence to prove anything I have said wrong , or any evidence that disproves biblical creation ."
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"Really ? Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Huh . It appears you have forgotten the very first page much less every other page as well . And no one refuted you ? http : //www.4forums.com/political/365160-post13.html Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Huh . More likes from the King of Liars . Do you really believe anyone takes you at face value anymore ? Btw , you still have n't addressed where the flood got its nearly 1 billion cubic miles of extra sediment ."
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"Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical CreationEverything else written has been personal attacks and non responses to the arguments I have posted"
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"Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Huh . It appears you have forgotten the very first page much less every other page as"
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1,882 | 509 |
"What is not only very interesting , but incredible is that in this whole thread this is the only post which has even attempted to answer the OP question . Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical CreationEverything else written has been personal attacks and non responses to the arguments I have posted . But at no time has anyone offered any actual evidence to prove anything I have said wrong , or any evidence that disproves biblical creation ."
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"Really ? Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Huh . It appears you have forgotten the very first page much less every other page as well . And no one refuted you ? http : //www.4forums.com/political/365160-post13.html Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation Huh . More likes from the King of Liars . Do you really believe anyone takes you at face value anymore ? Btw , you still have n't addressed where the flood got its nearly 1 billion cubic miles of extra sediment ."
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"in this whole thread this is the only post which has even attempted to answer the OP question Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical But at no time has anyone offered any actual evidence to prove anything I have said wrong"
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"Effective Arguments For Disproving Biblical Creation It appears you have forgotten the very first page much less every other page as well . And no one refuted you ?"
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"Do n't be so quick to fire off your mouth ."
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"I see no reason for you to take this tone with me . And you wonder why we would be uncomfortable with folks like you having the ability to blast anyone who might annoy you . Learn some manners , will you ?"
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"Do n't be so quick to fire off your mouth ."
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"I see no reason for you to take this tone with me ."
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1,885 | 510 |
"Do n't be so quick to fire off your mouth ."
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"I see no reason for you to take this tone with me . And you wonder why we would be uncomfortable with folks like you having the ability to blast anyone who might annoy you . Learn some manners , will you ?"
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"Do n't be so quick to fire off your mouth"
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"I see no reason for you to take this tone with me . And you wonder why we would be uncomfortable with folks like you having the ability to blast anyone who might annoy you . Learn some manners , will you ?"
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1,884 | 510 |
"Do n't be so quick to fire off your mouth ."
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"I see no reason for you to take this tone with me . And you wonder why we would be uncomfortable with folks like you having the ability to blast anyone who might annoy you . Learn some manners , will you ?"
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"Do n't be so quick to fire off your mouth ."
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"I see no reason for you to take this tone with me . And you wonder why we would be uncomfortable with folks like you having the ability to blast anyone who might annoy you . Learn some manners , will you ?"
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"Your technicality bs is not needed here ... granted you have only made 20 posts or so ."
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"Golly gee . Scared already ?"
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"Your technicality bs is not needed here ... granted you have only made 20 posts or so ."
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"Golly gee . Scared already ?"
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1,891 | 511 |
"Your technicality bs is not needed here ... granted you have only made 20 posts or so ."
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"Golly gee . Scared already ?"
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"Your technicality bs is not needed here ..."
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"Golly gee . Scared already ?"
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1,888 | 511 |
"Your technicality bs is not needed here ... granted you have only made 20 posts or so ."
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"Golly gee . Scared already ?"
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"Your technicality bs is not needed here ... granted you have only made 20 posts or so ."
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"Golly gee . Scared already ?"
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1,889 | 511 |
"Your technicality bs is not needed here ... granted you have only made 20 posts or so ."
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"Golly gee . Scared already ?"
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"Your technicality bs is not needed here ... granted you have only made 20 posts or so ."
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"Golly gee . Scared already ?"
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"We all know the logic makes sense . Slowly increasing global temperatures cause a dramatic decrease in global temperatures ! Just compare the early blizzard that just hit the two Dakotas here in the states with that of the 1920 North Dakota blizzard to see if there is a difference between now and then ."
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"Global warming is predicted to cause extremely hot summers and extremely cold winters as it reduces the heat transfer capacity of the oceans . Thus , the extremely cold winter last winter was entirely within the model . Furthermore , the early blizzard is a known phenomena that occurs in the Mid West . Please try again ."
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"We all know the logic makes sense . Slowly increasing global temperatures cause a dramatic decrease in global temperatures"
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"Global warming is predicted"
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"We all know the logic makes sense . Slowly increasing global temperatures cause a dramatic decrease in global temperatures ! Just compare the early blizzard that just hit the two Dakotas here in the states with that of the 1920 North Dakota blizzard to see if there is a difference between now and then ."
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"Global warming is predicted to cause extremely hot summers and extremely cold winters as it reduces the heat transfer capacity of the oceans . Thus , the extremely cold winter last winter was entirely within the model . Furthermore , the early blizzard is a known phenomena that occurs in the Mid West . Please try again ."
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"Slowly increasing global temperatures cause a dramatic decrease in global temperatures ! Just compare the early blizzard that just hit the two Dakotas here in the states with that of the 1920 North Dakota blizzard to see if there is a difference between now and then ."
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"Global warming is predicted to cause extremely hot summers and extremely cold winters as it reduces the heat transfer capacity of the oceans ."
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1,892 | 512 |
"We all know the logic makes sense . Slowly increasing global temperatures cause a dramatic decrease in global temperatures ! Just compare the early blizzard that just hit the two Dakotas here in the states with that of the 1920 North Dakota blizzard to see if there is a difference between now and then ."
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"Global warming is predicted to cause extremely hot summers and extremely cold winters as it reduces the heat transfer capacity of the oceans . Thus , the extremely cold winter last winter was entirely within the model . Furthermore , the early blizzard is a known phenomena that occurs in the Mid West . Please try again ."
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"global temperatures"
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"Global warming extremely hot summers , Please try again ."
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1,895 | 512 |
"We all know the logic makes sense . Slowly increasing global temperatures cause a dramatic decrease in global temperatures ! Just compare the early blizzard that just hit the two Dakotas here in the states with that of the 1920 North Dakota blizzard to see if there is a difference between now and then ."
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"Global warming is predicted to cause extremely hot summers and extremely cold winters as it reduces the heat transfer capacity of the oceans . Thus , the extremely cold winter last winter was entirely within the model . Furthermore , the early blizzard is a known phenomena that occurs in the Mid West . Please try again ."
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"the 1920 North Dakota blizzard to see if there is a difference between now and then"
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"the early blizzard is a known phenomena that occurs in the Mid West"
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"Well that was a lovely story and cudos on working in the anti-war angle . No , the 50 or more GIANT posters in a row alongside a public ( taxpayer funded ) roadway do not affect me personaly in any way from a shock perspective . As I said , I am strongly against abortion , I have seen the same pictures many times before . My complaint is the virtual forcing of all citizens to view the photos as they drive down a public roadway , and the harrassing of motorists at stop lights . Mainly my point in posting this thread was to try to find out if this was a common type of anti-abortion protest in other parts of the country . I 'm quite sure many other `` conservatives `` will view this type of protest as a wonderful thing . I think it actually works against the anti-abortion movement and alienates potential supporters ."
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"The good side of war is altogether too often overlooked . Anyway , at the protest here recently they were giving out keychains with little plastic fetuses supposedly of about the stage of development of the average abortion . Nice huh ?"
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"Well that was a lovely story and cudos on working in the anti-war angle . No , the 50 or more GIANT posters"
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"Nice"
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"Well that was a lovely story and cudos on working in the anti-war angle . No , the 50 or more GIANT posters in a row alongside a public ( taxpayer funded ) roadway do not affect me personaly in any way from a shock perspective . As I said , I am strongly against abortion , I have seen the same pictures many times before . My complaint is the virtual forcing of all citizens to view the photos as they drive down a public roadway , and the harrassing of motorists at stop lights . Mainly my point in posting this thread was to try to find out if this was a common type of anti-abortion protest in other parts of the country . I 'm quite sure many other `` conservatives `` will view this type of protest as a wonderful thing . I think it actually works against the anti-abortion movement and alienates potential supporters ."
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"The good side of war is altogether too often overlooked . Anyway , at the protest here recently they were giving out keychains with little plastic fetuses supposedly of about the stage of development of the average abortion . Nice huh ?"
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"As I said , I am strongly against abortion , I have seen the same pictures many times before . My complaint is the virtual forcing of all citizens to view the photos as they drive down a public roadway , and the harrassing of motorists at stop lights . Mainly my point in posting this thread was to try to find out if this was a common type of anti-abortion protest in other parts of the country ."
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"The good side of war is altogether too often overlooked . Anyway , at the protest here recently they were giving out keychains with little plastic fetuses supposedly of about the stage of development of the average abortion"
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1,899 | 513 |
"Well that was a lovely story and cudos on working in the anti-war angle . No , the 50 or more GIANT posters in a row alongside a public ( taxpayer funded ) roadway do not affect me personaly in any way from a shock perspective . As I said , I am strongly against abortion , I have seen the same pictures many times before . My complaint is the virtual forcing of all citizens to view the photos as they drive down a public roadway , and the harrassing of motorists at stop lights . Mainly my point in posting this thread was to try to find out if this was a common type of anti-abortion protest in other parts of the country . I 'm quite sure many other `` conservatives `` will view this type of protest as a wonderful thing . I think it actually works against the anti-abortion movement and alienates potential supporters ."
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"The good side of war is altogether too often overlooked . Anyway , at the protest here recently they were giving out keychains with little plastic fetuses supposedly of about the stage of development of the average abortion . Nice huh ?"
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"My complaint is the virtual forcing of all citizens"
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"the protest here recently they were giving out keychains with little plastic"
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1,902 | 514 |
"Basically . You can not own property without paying yearly rent to the state"
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"Again :  “ No , but I like to think they have !  ” I ’ m assuming you refer to council tax which is meant to be for community services like rubbish collection , fire protection etc ... I agree I don ’ t think we get value for money , but this isn ’ t a tax on actually owning property . You pay it if you rent !"
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"own property without paying yearly rent to the state"
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"think we get value for money , but this isn ’ t a tax on actually owning property"
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1,900 | 514 |
"Basically . You can not own property without paying yearly rent to the state"
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"Again :  “ No , but I like to think they have !  ” I ’ m assuming you refer to council tax which is meant to be for community services like rubbish collection , fire protection etc ... I agree I don ’ t think we get value for money , but this isn ’ t a tax on actually owning property . You pay it if you rent !"
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"Basically . You can not own property without paying yearly rent to the state"
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"Again :  No , but I like to think they have !  I ’ m assuming you refer to council tax which is meant to be for community services like rubbish collection , fire protection etc ... I agree I don ’ t think we get value for money , but this isn ’ t a tax on actually owning property . You pay it if you rent !"
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1,901 | 514 |
"Basically . You can not own property without paying yearly rent to the state"
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"Again :  “ No , but I like to think they have !  ” I ’ m assuming you refer to council tax which is meant to be for community services like rubbish collection , fire protection etc ... I agree I don ’ t think we get value for money , but this isn ’ t a tax on actually owning property . You pay it if you rent !"
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"own property paying yearly"
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"I don ’ t think we get value for money"
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1,903 | 514 |
"Basically . You can not own property without paying yearly rent to the state"
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"Again :  “ No , but I like to think they have !  ” I ’ m assuming you refer to council tax which is meant to be for community services like rubbish collection , fire protection etc ... I agree I don ’ t think we get value for money , but this isn ’ t a tax on actually owning property . You pay it if you rent !"
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"You can not own property without paying yearly rent to the state"
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"You pay it if you rent !"
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1,904 | 515 |
"Before Darwin every undergraduate studied theology and most zoology and botany was the ciriculum of graduate students ."
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"That 's nonsense . When Darwin was at the University of Edinburgh studying medicine , he spent more time studying zoology and geology . His teachers were some of the most respected scientists of the day . Later , when he was at Christ 's College , Cambridge studying divinity in preparation entry into the seminary , he actually spent more time studying botany and natural science , under John Henslow ( a mineralologist and botanist ) . Darwin later studied with Adam Sedgwick ( a geologist ) . Both men were leading scientists in their field of the day ( both taught at Cambridge ) . Henslow became a lifelong friend of Darwin and it was his recommendation that gained Darwin the position aboard the Beagle . By the way , both men were ordained in the Chruch of England ."
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"Before Darwin every undergraduate studied theology and most zoology and botany was the ciriculum of graduate students ."
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"By the way , both men were ordained in the Chruch of England ."
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1,905 | 515 |
"Before Darwin every undergraduate studied theology and most zoology and botany was the ciriculum of graduate students ."
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"That 's nonsense . When Darwin was at the University of Edinburgh studying medicine , he spent more time studying zoology and geology . His teachers were some of the most respected scientists of the day . Later , when he was at Christ 's College , Cambridge studying divinity in preparation entry into the seminary , he actually spent more time studying botany and natural science , under John Henslow ( a mineralologist and botanist ) . Darwin later studied with Adam Sedgwick ( a geologist ) . Both men were leading scientists in their field of the day ( both taught at Cambridge ) . Henslow became a lifelong friend of Darwin and it was his recommendation that gained Darwin the position aboard the Beagle . By the way , both men were ordained in the Chruch of England ."
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"Before Darwin every undergraduate studied theology and most zoology and botany was the ciriculum of graduate students ."
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"Darwin later studied with Adam Sedgwick ( a geologist ) . Both men were leading scientists in their field of the day ( both taught at Cambridge ) . Henslow became a lifelong friend of Darwin and it was his recommendation that gained Darwin the position aboard the Beagle . By the way , both men were ordained in the Chruch of England ."
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1,907 | 515 |
"Before Darwin every undergraduate studied theology and most zoology and botany was the ciriculum of graduate students ."
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"That 's nonsense . When Darwin was at the University of Edinburgh studying medicine , he spent more time studying zoology and geology . His teachers were some of the most respected scientists of the day . Later , when he was at Christ 's College , Cambridge studying divinity in preparation entry into the seminary , he actually spent more time studying botany and natural science , under John Henslow ( a mineralologist and botanist ) . Darwin later studied with Adam Sedgwick ( a geologist ) . Both men were leading scientists in their field of the day ( both taught at Cambridge ) . Henslow became a lifelong friend of Darwin and it was his recommendation that gained Darwin the position aboard the Beagle . By the way , both men were ordained in the Chruch of England ."
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"theology and most zoology and botany was the ciriculum of graduate students ."
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"when he was at Christ 's College , Cambridge studying divinity in preparation"
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1,906 | 515 |
"Before Darwin every undergraduate studied theology and most zoology and botany was the ciriculum of graduate students ."
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"That 's nonsense . When Darwin was at the University of Edinburgh studying medicine , he spent more time studying zoology and geology . His teachers were some of the most respected scientists of the day . Later , when he was at Christ 's College , Cambridge studying divinity in preparation entry into the seminary , he actually spent more time studying botany and natural science , under John Henslow ( a mineralologist and botanist ) . Darwin later studied with Adam Sedgwick ( a geologist ) . Both men were leading scientists in their field of the day ( both taught at Cambridge ) . Henslow became a lifelong friend of Darwin and it was his recommendation that gained Darwin the position aboard the Beagle . By the way , both men were ordained in the Chruch of England ."
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"theology zoology and botany"
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"That 's nonsense ."
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1,911 | 516 |
"Our standard expectation of evolution -- slow , steady , gradual improvement , hence change , through time -- is indeed a myth . Niles Eldredge"
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"Out of context , and therefore misunderstood , quote ."
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"standard expectation of evolution -- slow , steady , gradual improvement"
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"therefore misunderstood ."
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1,909 | 516 |
"Our standard expectation of evolution -- slow , steady , gradual improvement , hence change , through time -- is indeed a myth . Niles Eldredge"
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"Out of context , and therefore misunderstood , quote ."
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"Our standard expectation of evolution -- slow , steady , gradual improvement , hence change , through time -- is indeed a myth . Niles Eldredge"
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"Out of context , and therefore misunderstood , quote"
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1,908 | 516 |
"Our standard expectation of evolution -- slow , steady , gradual improvement , hence change , through time -- is indeed a myth . Niles Eldredge"
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"Out of context , and therefore misunderstood , quote ."
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"Our standard expectation of evolution -- slow , steady , gradual improvement , hence change , through time -- is indeed a myth ."
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"Out of context , and therefore misunderstood , quote ."
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1,912 | 517 |
"Frankly , tell me what you know about the Bible and what it says about Christ ."
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"I know that Christ is n't mentioned in either of the Old Testament creation myths . In fact , he is n't mentioned in the Old Testament at all . He is mentioned a lot in the New Testament , the stories that were written 40 to 100 years after he is supposed to have lived ."
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"what you know about the Bible and what it says about Christ ."
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"he is n't mentioned in the Old Testament at all He is mentioned a lot in the New Testament"
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1,915 | 517 |
"Frankly , tell me what you know about the Bible and what it says about Christ ."
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"I know that Christ is n't mentioned in either of the Old Testament creation myths . In fact , he is n't mentioned in the Old Testament at all . He is mentioned a lot in the New Testament , the stories that were written 40 to 100 years after he is supposed to have lived ."
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"what you know about the Bible and what it says about Christ ."
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"that Christ is n't mentioned in either of the Old Testament creation myths . In fact"
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1,914 | 517 |
"Frankly , tell me what you know about the Bible and what it says about Christ ."
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"I know that Christ is n't mentioned in either of the Old Testament creation myths . In fact , he is n't mentioned in the Old Testament at all . He is mentioned a lot in the New Testament , the stories that were written 40 to 100 years after he is supposed to have lived ."
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"Frankly , tell me what you know about the Bible and what it says about Christ ."
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"I know that Christ is n't mentioned in either of the Old Testament creation myths ."
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1,919 | 518 |
"and I do think that your intellect is being leveraged in pursuit of the wrong goal , namely the creation of a fortress of semantics , idiosyncratic terminology and untestable assertions from within which you can hurl abuse at others ."
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"* * Back to the dark side , eh , and 'argument by personal attack upon the character of your opponent ' ?"
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"being leveraged in pursuit of the wrong goal , namely the creation of a fortress of semantics ,"
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"the dark side , eh , and 'argument by personal attack upon"
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1,917 | 518 |
"and I do think that your intellect is being leveraged in pursuit of the wrong goal , namely the creation of a fortress of semantics , idiosyncratic terminology and untestable assertions from within which you can hurl abuse at others ."
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"* * Back to the dark side , eh , and 'argument by personal attack upon the character of your opponent ' ?"
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"and I do think that your intellect is being leveraged in pursuit of the wrong goal , namely the creation of a fortress of semantics ,"
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"Back to the dark side , eh , and 'argument by personal attack upon the character of your opponent ' ?"
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1,916 | 518 |
"and I do think that your intellect is being leveraged in pursuit of the wrong goal , namely the creation of a fortress of semantics , idiosyncratic terminology and untestable assertions from within which you can hurl abuse at others ."
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"* * Back to the dark side , eh , and 'argument by personal attack upon the character of your opponent ' ?"
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"and I do think that your intellect is being leveraged in pursuit of the wrong goal , namely the creation of a fortress of semantics , idiosyncratic terminology and untestable assertions from within which you can hurl abuse at others ."
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"* * Back to the dark side , eh , and 'argument by personal attack upon the character of your opponent ' ?"
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1,922 | 519 |
"I was thinking that , since people who buy weapons are the main group that makes the police necessary , then why not have a tax on weapons and use that , and only that , to fund the police force ? Such a tax is boycottable and user-relevant ."
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"Actually we should tax those that refuse to own a gun as THEY are the ones that make the police neccessary since as sheeple they depend on others for their self defense ...."
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"why not have a tax on weapons and use that , to fund the police force ?"
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"we should tax those that refuse to own a gun"
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1,921 | 519 |
"I was thinking that , since people who buy weapons are the main group that makes the police necessary , then why not have a tax on weapons and use that , and only that , to fund the police force ? Such a tax is boycottable and user-relevant ."
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"Actually we should tax those that refuse to own a gun as THEY are the ones that make the police neccessary since as sheeple they depend on others for their self defense ...."
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"then why not have a tax on weapons and use that"
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"we should tax those that refuse to own a gun"
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1,923 | 520 |
"Gays should allowed to have a legal partnership which is exactly the same as hetrosexuals have and it should called 'garriage ' . Job done"
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"what about to d-y-k-e-s marrying each other , would you call it `` butch-ery `` ?"
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"should called 'garriage ' ."
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"d-y-k-e-s marrying each other , call it `` butch-ery `` ?"
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1,925 | 520 |
"Gays should allowed to have a legal partnership which is exactly the same as hetrosexuals have and it should called 'garriage ' . Job done"
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"what about to d-y-k-e-s marrying each other , would you call it `` butch-ery `` ?"
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"Gays should allowed to have a legal partnership which is exactly the same as hetrosexuals have and it should called 'garriage"
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"would you call it `` butch-ery"
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1,927 | 521 |
"Concealed carry just makes the problem worse ."
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"How ?"
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"Concealed carry just makes the problem worse"
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"How ?"
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1,928 | 521 |
"Concealed carry just makes the problem worse ."
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"How ?"
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"makes the problem worse ."
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"How ?"
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1,930 | 522 |
"Actually the defending of ATF would n't do much with regular guns since they have little to do with them . ATFs function is with NFA guns , which you probably know little , or nothing about ."
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"Actually , I have fired an NFA gun before ."
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"ATFs function is with NFA guns , which you probably know little , or nothing about"
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"I have fired an NFA gun before"
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1,934 | 523 |
"It worked just fine for the first half of the 20th century . And training should never be a requirement for exercising a constitutional right ."
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"i 'm not familiar with life in the first half of the 20th century . training should be a requirement for safe use of a deadly weapon and not everyone has this right to bear arms ( we can debate about criminals ' constitutional rights in another thread ) . as i mentioned in a previous thread , when i was at the range , i was amazed at how many first timers were learning how to load and shoot that day without supervision . and yes , i stepped in to help an FTF/FTE . i kept reminding her not to look down the barrel when it FTF 'd . lately , i 've been spending more time training newbies than enjoying my time shooting . just because an AD has n't happened yet , does n't mean training should not be required . i shoot around 3x a week and my family shoots almost every weekend . i 'm also amazed at how many irresponsible gun owners are willing to sell their arms to shady looking strangers at the gun shows without asking to see a CCW or FL . so yes , as a responsible gun owner , i welcome a reasonable amount of gun regulation . btw , CCW is not required in GA , a simple Firearms License is needed which can be had in about 3 days ( assuming clean background check and state residency has been established ) . i 'm not gon na use statistics or historical data ( too many variables for a true analysis - butterfly effect ) . i 'm gon na use good ole common sense ... -a|ex"
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"And training should never be a requirement for exercising a constitutional right ."
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"training should be a requirement for safe use of a deadly weapon and not everyone has this right to bear arms"
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1,933 | 523 |
"It worked just fine for the first half of the 20th century . And training should never be a requirement for exercising a constitutional right ."
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"i 'm not familiar with life in the first half of the 20th century . training should be a requirement for safe use of a deadly weapon and not everyone has this right to bear arms ( we can debate about criminals ' constitutional rights in another thread ) . as i mentioned in a previous thread , when i was at the range , i was amazed at how many first timers were learning how to load and shoot that day without supervision . and yes , i stepped in to help an FTF/FTE . i kept reminding her not to look down the barrel when it FTF 'd . lately , i 've been spending more time training newbies than enjoying my time shooting . just because an AD has n't happened yet , does n't mean training should not be required . i shoot around 3x a week and my family shoots almost every weekend . i 'm also amazed at how many irresponsible gun owners are willing to sell their arms to shady looking strangers at the gun shows without asking to see a CCW or FL . so yes , as a responsible gun owner , i welcome a reasonable amount of gun regulation . btw , CCW is not required in GA , a simple Firearms License is needed which can be had in about 3 days ( assuming clean background check and state residency has been established ) . i 'm not gon na use statistics or historical data ( too many variables for a true analysis - butterfly effect ) . i 'm gon na use good ole common sense ... -a|ex"
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"And training should never be a requirement for exercising a constitutional right"
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"i 'm not familiar with life in the first half of the 20th century . training should be a requirement for safe use of a deadly weapon and not everyone has this right to bear arms ( we can debate about criminals ' constitutional rights in another thread )"
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1,932 | 523 |
"It worked just fine for the first half of the 20th century . And training should never be a requirement for exercising a constitutional right ."
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"i 'm not familiar with life in the first half of the 20th century . training should be a requirement for safe use of a deadly weapon and not everyone has this right to bear arms ( we can debate about criminals ' constitutional rights in another thread ) . as i mentioned in a previous thread , when i was at the range , i was amazed at how many first timers were learning how to load and shoot that day without supervision . and yes , i stepped in to help an FTF/FTE . i kept reminding her not to look down the barrel when it FTF 'd . lately , i 've been spending more time training newbies than enjoying my time shooting . just because an AD has n't happened yet , does n't mean training should not be required . i shoot around 3x a week and my family shoots almost every weekend . i 'm also amazed at how many irresponsible gun owners are willing to sell their arms to shady looking strangers at the gun shows without asking to see a CCW or FL . so yes , as a responsible gun owner , i welcome a reasonable amount of gun regulation . btw , CCW is not required in GA , a simple Firearms License is needed which can be had in about 3 days ( assuming clean background check and state residency has been established ) . i 'm not gon na use statistics or historical data ( too many variables for a true analysis - butterfly effect ) . i 'm gon na use good ole common sense ... -a|ex"
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"never be a requirement for exercising a constitutional right ."
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"welcome a reasonable amount of gun regulation"
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1,936 | 524 |
"But , even if all this were untrue , it really has nothing to do with America . Canada may very well have been prepared to accept gays into its army without serious repercussions , specifically a degradation of its cohesion . If this is the case , then good for them . It does not mean America is in any such stage ."
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"So are you saying that Canadian society is less bigoted than US ? Are you saying that because US society is bigoted then it is right to pander to the bigots and allow them to dictate the rules of society ? Oh and BTW , the British Army openly allows homosexuals as well , and seems to function well enough too ."
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"Canada may very well have been prepared to accept gays into its army without serious repercussions , specifically a degradation of its cohesion"
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"US society is bigoted then it is right to pander to the bigots and allow them to dictate the rules of society ? Oh and BTW , the British Army openly allows homosexuals as well , and seems to function well enough too"
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1,937 | 524 |
"But , even if all this were untrue , it really has nothing to do with America . Canada may very well have been prepared to accept gays into its army without serious repercussions , specifically a degradation of its cohesion . If this is the case , then good for them . It does not mean America is in any such stage ."
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"So are you saying that Canadian society is less bigoted than US ? Are you saying that because US society is bigoted then it is right to pander to the bigots and allow them to dictate the rules of society ? Oh and BTW , the British Army openly allows homosexuals as well , and seems to function well enough too ."
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"does not mean America is in any such stage ."
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"US society is bigoted"
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1,940 | 525 |
"Not sure what you mean . Natural selection is one of several mechanisms of evolution . Evolution is a change in the genetic makeup of a population of organisms over generations . Natural selection tends to decrease genetic diversity - thus changing the relative frequencies of genetic characteristics . There are othere mechanisms that also tend to decrease genetic diversity , and , of course , there are mechanisms that tend to increase it ."
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"I think that Believer may be referring to microbe to man evolution ( i.e . simple life to more complex life ) . Your definition is not entirely accurate and misleading . By this , massive ammounts of new information must be added to the genome of the microbe to get it to `` evolve `` to a human , about 999 books each consisting of 500 pages fine print of information must be added to change a microbe to a human . That 's a lot of information is n't it ? Now where does all that information come from ? It ca n't come from a Creator , there 's no Creator according to atheistic evolutionism . Evolutionists say that this new information comes from accidental changes in the DNA when the information is being copied , these acidents are called mutations . Is this true though ? Do mutations produce the new information required by microbe to man evolution ? Dr Lee Spetner , an Israeli biophysicist says that there is not one mutation that one can point to that on the molecular level can be seen to increase the information in the genome . They actually all turn out to reduce the information in the genome . Let 's take the example of the Totally Naked Rooster , the TNR mutant . What has the mutation done ? It has obviously destroyed the information for making feathers . Has the rooster ever been improved by the mutation ? From the point of view of the chook farmer , probably yes , because no feathers - no plucking required . But what about from the point of view of the rooster ? Well , he 's going to freeze in winter and fry in summer , not much of an improvement for the rooster . This mutation has destroyed the information for making feathers . It can also be shown that anti-biotic resistance is the result of an information losing mutation , and many other evidences of evolution in action are also the result of information losing mutations - which matches perfectly with the creationary model , i.e . varriation within a kind . See , evolution can cope with the occassional down-hill mutation , but they really need a lot and a lot of up-hill , information gaining mutations if they are going to change a reptile into a bird , for example , and change a microbe into a human over eons of years . The problem is , we just do n't see these information gaining mutations occuring at all today . Now natural selection is also supposed to be the hero of the plot to , right ? Well , actually , natural selection also results in a loss of information for a certain population . We 'll take the example of a population of dogs that are taken to a very cold environment with varrying fur ( or hair ) sizes . The population consists of the following fur sizes : LL - Long fur . Ll - Medium fur sizes . ll - Short fur sizes . where L = long fur gene , and l = short fur gene . Obviously , the cold will kill of those dogs that are not fit to handle the cold whether . The poor dogs with short fur sizes would be the first to go , then followed by the medium fur sized dogs - that makes sense does n't it ? Take them to a place like Antartica . Over short time , only the dogs with long fur sizes would survive . Our surviving population consists of the following fur sizes : LL - Long fur . We started off with a or variety of fur sizes in the population , but , as you can see , the short haired gene was eliminated from the environment by natural selection . Thus the population has lost information . So natural selection does not add information to the population , it erases information that disadvantages a population from living in a certain environment , such as the short haired gene ( l ) in this case . Hence , neither mutations nor natural selection adds any new information to the genome ."
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"Natural selection is one of several mechanisms of evolution . Evolution is a change in the genetic makeup of a population of organisms over generations ."
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"Your definition is not entirely accurate and misleading ."
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1,938 | 525 |
"Not sure what you mean . Natural selection is one of several mechanisms of evolution . Evolution is a change in the genetic makeup of a population of organisms over generations . Natural selection tends to decrease genetic diversity - thus changing the relative frequencies of genetic characteristics . There are othere mechanisms that also tend to decrease genetic diversity , and , of course , there are mechanisms that tend to increase it ."
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"I think that Believer may be referring to microbe to man evolution ( i.e . simple life to more complex life ) . Your definition is not entirely accurate and misleading . By this , massive ammounts of new information must be added to the genome of the microbe to get it to `` evolve `` to a human , about 999 books each consisting of 500 pages fine print of information must be added to change a microbe to a human . That 's a lot of information is n't it ? Now where does all that information come from ? It ca n't come from a Creator , there 's no Creator according to atheistic evolutionism . Evolutionists say that this new information comes from accidental changes in the DNA when the information is being copied , these acidents are called mutations . Is this true though ? Do mutations produce the new information required by microbe to man evolution ? Dr Lee Spetner , an Israeli biophysicist says that there is not one mutation that one can point to that on the molecular level can be seen to increase the information in the genome . They actually all turn out to reduce the information in the genome . Let 's take the example of the Totally Naked Rooster , the TNR mutant . What has the mutation done ? It has obviously destroyed the information for making feathers . Has the rooster ever been improved by the mutation ? From the point of view of the chook farmer , probably yes , because no feathers - no plucking required . But what about from the point of view of the rooster ? Well , he 's going to freeze in winter and fry in summer , not much of an improvement for the rooster . This mutation has destroyed the information for making feathers . It can also be shown that anti-biotic resistance is the result of an information losing mutation , and many other evidences of evolution in action are also the result of information losing mutations - which matches perfectly with the creationary model , i.e . varriation within a kind . See , evolution can cope with the occassional down-hill mutation , but they really need a lot and a lot of up-hill , information gaining mutations if they are going to change a reptile into a bird , for example , and change a microbe into a human over eons of years . The problem is , we just do n't see these information gaining mutations occuring at all today . Now natural selection is also supposed to be the hero of the plot to , right ? Well , actually , natural selection also results in a loss of information for a certain population . We 'll take the example of a population of dogs that are taken to a very cold environment with varrying fur ( or hair ) sizes . The population consists of the following fur sizes : LL - Long fur . Ll - Medium fur sizes . ll - Short fur sizes . where L = long fur gene , and l = short fur gene . Obviously , the cold will kill of those dogs that are not fit to handle the cold whether . The poor dogs with short fur sizes would be the first to go , then followed by the medium fur sized dogs - that makes sense does n't it ? Take them to a place like Antartica . Over short time , only the dogs with long fur sizes would survive . Our surviving population consists of the following fur sizes : LL - Long fur . We started off with a or variety of fur sizes in the population , but , as you can see , the short haired gene was eliminated from the environment by natural selection . Thus the population has lost information . So natural selection does not add information to the population , it erases information that disadvantages a population from living in a certain environment , such as the short haired gene ( l ) in this case . Hence , neither mutations nor natural selection adds any new information to the genome ."
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"Natural selection is one of several mechanisms of evolution"
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"natural selection does not add information to the population ,"
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1,939 | 525 |
"Not sure what you mean . Natural selection is one of several mechanisms of evolution . Evolution is a change in the genetic makeup of a population of organisms over generations . Natural selection tends to decrease genetic diversity - thus changing the relative frequencies of genetic characteristics . There are othere mechanisms that also tend to decrease genetic diversity , and , of course , there are mechanisms that tend to increase it ."
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"I think that Believer may be referring to microbe to man evolution ( i.e . simple life to more complex life ) . Your definition is not entirely accurate and misleading . By this , massive ammounts of new information must be added to the genome of the microbe to get it to `` evolve `` to a human , about 999 books each consisting of 500 pages fine print of information must be added to change a microbe to a human . That 's a lot of information is n't it ? Now where does all that information come from ? It ca n't come from a Creator , there 's no Creator according to atheistic evolutionism . Evolutionists say that this new information comes from accidental changes in the DNA when the information is being copied , these acidents are called mutations . Is this true though ? Do mutations produce the new information required by microbe to man evolution ? Dr Lee Spetner , an Israeli biophysicist says that there is not one mutation that one can point to that on the molecular level can be seen to increase the information in the genome . They actually all turn out to reduce the information in the genome . Let 's take the example of the Totally Naked Rooster , the TNR mutant . What has the mutation done ? It has obviously destroyed the information for making feathers . Has the rooster ever been improved by the mutation ? From the point of view of the chook farmer , probably yes , because no feathers - no plucking required . But what about from the point of view of the rooster ? Well , he 's going to freeze in winter and fry in summer , not much of an improvement for the rooster . This mutation has destroyed the information for making feathers . It can also be shown that anti-biotic resistance is the result of an information losing mutation , and many other evidences of evolution in action are also the result of information losing mutations - which matches perfectly with the creationary model , i.e . varriation within a kind . See , evolution can cope with the occassional down-hill mutation , but they really need a lot and a lot of up-hill , information gaining mutations if they are going to change a reptile into a bird , for example , and change a microbe into a human over eons of years . The problem is , we just do n't see these information gaining mutations occuring at all today . Now natural selection is also supposed to be the hero of the plot to , right ? Well , actually , natural selection also results in a loss of information for a certain population . We 'll take the example of a population of dogs that are taken to a very cold environment with varrying fur ( or hair ) sizes . The population consists of the following fur sizes : LL - Long fur . Ll - Medium fur sizes . ll - Short fur sizes . where L = long fur gene , and l = short fur gene . Obviously , the cold will kill of those dogs that are not fit to handle the cold whether . The poor dogs with short fur sizes would be the first to go , then followed by the medium fur sized dogs - that makes sense does n't it ? Take them to a place like Antartica . Over short time , only the dogs with long fur sizes would survive . Our surviving population consists of the following fur sizes : LL - Long fur . We started off with a or variety of fur sizes in the population , but , as you can see , the short haired gene was eliminated from the environment by natural selection . Thus the population has lost information . So natural selection does not add information to the population , it erases information that disadvantages a population from living in a certain environment , such as the short haired gene ( l ) in this case . Hence , neither mutations nor natural selection adds any new information to the genome ."
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"selection tends to decrease genetic diversity - thus changing the relative frequencies of genetic characteristics . There are othere mechanisms that also tend to decrease genetic diversity , and , of course , there are mechanisms that tend to increase"
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"Your definition is not entirely accurate and misleading . By this , massive ammounts of new information must be added to the genome of the microbe to get it to `` evolve `` to a human , about 999 books each consisting of 500 pages fine print of information must be added to change a microbe to a human"
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1,943 | 526 |
"Nearly all animal phyla * made their first appearance in the fossil record at essentially the same time , an interval of some 5 million years [ ET * * ] ( about 525 to 530 million years ago [ ET * * ] ) called the `` Cambrian Explosion . '' 51"
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"1 ) This is outdated . The beginning of the Cambrian `` explosion `` has been dated to ~543 million years . And , this more accurate date for the base of the Cambrian has been known for more than 10 years !"
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"an interval of some 5 million years [ ET * * ] ( about 525 to 530 million years ago [ ET * * ] ) called the `` Cambrian ''"
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"This is outdated . ``"
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1,942 | 526 |
"Nearly all animal phyla * made their first appearance in the fossil record at essentially the same time , an interval of some 5 million years [ ET * * ] ( about 525 to 530 million years ago [ ET * * ] ) called the `` Cambrian Explosion . '' 51"
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"1 ) This is outdated . The beginning of the Cambrian `` explosion `` has been dated to ~543 million years . And , this more accurate date for the base of the Cambrian has been known for more than 10 years !"
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"fossil record at essentially the same time , an interval of some 5 million years"
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"The beginning of the Cambrian `` explosion `` has been dated to ~543 million years"
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1,941 | 526 |
"Nearly all animal phyla * made their first appearance in the fossil record at essentially the same time , an interval of some 5 million years [ ET * * ] ( about 525 to 530 million years ago [ ET * * ] ) called the `` Cambrian Explosion . '' 51"
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"1 ) This is outdated . The beginning of the Cambrian `` explosion `` has been dated to ~543 million years . And , this more accurate date for the base of the Cambrian has been known for more than 10 years !"
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"525 to 530 million years ago `` Cambrian Explosion ''"
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"Cambrian `` explosion ~543 million years"
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1,944 | 526 |
"Nearly all animal phyla * made their first appearance in the fossil record at essentially the same time , an interval of some 5 million years [ ET * * ] ( about 525 to 530 million years ago [ ET * * ] ) called the `` Cambrian Explosion . '' 51"
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"1 ) This is outdated . The beginning of the Cambrian `` explosion `` has been dated to ~543 million years . And , this more accurate date for the base of the Cambrian has been known for more than 10 years !"
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"Nearly all animal phyla * made their first appearance in the fossil record the same time , called the `` Cambrian Explosion . '' 51"
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"This is outdated of the Cambrian `` explosion `` has been dated to ~543 million years more accurate date for the base of the Cambrian"
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1,946 | 527 |
"Like I said in # 2 , most of the earth ’ s oxygen comes from the plants in the ocean and we still have al the other forest ."
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"what other forest ? By your logic there would only be one left in the entire world , and it would be what , the size on central park ?"
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"most of the earth ’ s oxygen comes from the plants in the ocean"
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"By your logic there would only be one left in the entire world , and it would be what , the size on central park"
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1,947 | 527 |
"Like I said in # 2 , most of the earth ’ s oxygen comes from the plants in the ocean and we still have al the other forest ."
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"what other forest ? By your logic there would only be one left in the entire world , and it would be what , the size on central park ?"
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"forest"
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"what other forest ? By your logic there would only be one left in the entire world , and it would be what , the size on central park ?"
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1,949 | 527 |
"Like I said in # 2 , most of the earth ’ s oxygen comes from the plants in the ocean and we still have al the other forest ."
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"what other forest ? By your logic there would only be one left in the entire world , and it would be what , the size on central park ?"
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"most of the oxygen comes from the plants in the ocean we still have al the other forest ."
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"what other forest ? there would only be one left in the entire world"
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1,948 | 527 |
"Like I said in # 2 , most of the earth ’ s oxygen comes from the plants in the ocean and we still have al the other forest ."
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"what other forest ? By your logic there would only be one left in the entire world , and it would be what , the size on central park ?"
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"we still have al the other forest"
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"what other forest ? By your logic there would only be one left in the entire world"
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1,955 | 528 |
"... According to the institute , these findings will challenge scientists  “ to rethink some long-held views about what genes are and what they do ...  ”"
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"And that 's what scientists will do . No change there , then . Now , on the subject of long-held religious views , how many so-called Christians will have a rethink when presented with new findings ?"
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"these findings will challenge scientists to rethink about what genes are and what they do"
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"No change there how many so-called Christians will have a rethink when presented with new findings ?"
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1,952 | 528 |
"... According to the institute , these findings will challenge scientists  “ to rethink some long-held views about what genes are and what they do ...  ”"
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"And that 's what scientists will do . No change there , then . Now , on the subject of long-held religious views , how many so-called Christians will have a rethink when presented with new findings ?"
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"these findings will challenge"
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"And that 's what scientists will do . No change there ,"
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1,951 | 528 |
"... According to the institute , these findings will challenge scientists  “ to rethink some long-held views about what genes are and what they do ...  ”"
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"And that 's what scientists will do . No change there , then . Now , on the subject of long-held religious views , how many so-called Christians will have a rethink when presented with new findings ?"
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"these findings will challenge scientists rethink some long-held views"
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"And that 's what scientists will do . No change there , then . Now , on the subject of long-held religious views , how many so-called Christians will have a rethink"
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1,954 | 528 |
"... According to the institute , these findings will challenge scientists  “ to rethink some long-held views about what genes are and what they do ...  ”"
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"And that 's what scientists will do . No change there , then . Now , on the subject of long-held religious views , how many so-called Christians will have a rethink when presented with new findings ?"
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"these findings will challenge scientists  to rethink some long-held views about what genes"
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"No change there , then . Now , on the subject of long-held religious views"
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1,953 | 528 |
"... According to the institute , these findings will challenge scientists  “ to rethink some long-held views about what genes are and what they do ...  ”"
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"And that 's what scientists will do . No change there , then . Now , on the subject of long-held religious views , how many so-called Christians will have a rethink when presented with new findings ?"
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" According to the institute , these findings will challenge scientists"
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"And that 's what scientists will do ."
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1,956 | 529 |
"I think there is something wrong with Premse One . It translates into English as `` If God exists , then he exists in all possible worlds. `` No logical rule justifies this statement . It is equally foolish to say that `` If England exists , then it exists in all possible worlds. `` But clearly , England does not exist in the possible world where Earth never formed ."
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"the reason why premise 1 can logically stand is that God is first of all defined as the `` greatest possible being `` . no matter what reality we are considering , such a thing as the greatest possible being in that relity must exist . '' greatest `` is a superlative , compared to all other beings that exist its like `` the oldest man alive `` . no matter what scenario , such a person as the oldest man alive will always exist , therefore such a man ( that fits that definition ) will have a necessary existence"
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"If God exists , then he exists in all possible"
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"God is first of all defined as the `` greatest possible being `` . no matter what reality we are considering , such a thing as the greatest possible being in that relity must exist . ''"
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1,960 | 529 |
"I think there is something wrong with Premse One . It translates into English as `` If God exists , then he exists in all possible worlds. `` No logical rule justifies this statement . It is equally foolish to say that `` If England exists , then it exists in all possible worlds. `` But clearly , England does not exist in the possible world where Earth never formed ."
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"the reason why premise 1 can logically stand is that God is first of all defined as the `` greatest possible being `` . no matter what reality we are considering , such a thing as the greatest possible being in that relity must exist . '' greatest `` is a superlative , compared to all other beings that exist its like `` the oldest man alive `` . no matter what scenario , such a person as the oldest man alive will always exist , therefore such a man ( that fits that definition ) will have a necessary existence"
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"No logical rule justifies this statement ."
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"why premise 1 can logically stand is that God is first of all defined as the `` greatest possible being `` ."
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1,957 | 529 |
"I think there is something wrong with Premse One . It translates into English as `` If God exists , then he exists in all possible worlds. `` No logical rule justifies this statement . It is equally foolish to say that `` If England exists , then it exists in all possible worlds. `` But clearly , England does not exist in the possible world where Earth never formed ."
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"the reason why premise 1 can logically stand is that God is first of all defined as the `` greatest possible being `` . no matter what reality we are considering , such a thing as the greatest possible being in that relity must exist . '' greatest `` is a superlative , compared to all other beings that exist its like `` the oldest man alive `` . no matter what scenario , such a person as the oldest man alive will always exist , therefore such a man ( that fits that definition ) will have a necessary existence"
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"logical rule justifies this statement . It is equally foolish to say that"
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"God is first of all defined as the `` greatest possible being `` . no matter what reality we are considering ,"
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1,958 | 529 |
"I think there is something wrong with Premse One . It translates into English as `` If God exists , then he exists in all possible worlds. `` No logical rule justifies this statement . It is equally foolish to say that `` If England exists , then it exists in all possible worlds. `` But clearly , England does not exist in the possible world where Earth never formed ."
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"the reason why premise 1 can logically stand is that God is first of all defined as the `` greatest possible being `` . no matter what reality we are considering , such a thing as the greatest possible being in that relity must exist . '' greatest `` is a superlative , compared to all other beings that exist its like `` the oldest man alive `` . no matter what scenario , such a person as the oldest man alive will always exist , therefore such a man ( that fits that definition ) will have a necessary existence"
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"It translates into English as `` If God exists , then he exists in all possible worlds. `` No logical rule justifies this statement ."
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"the reason why premise 1 can logically stand is that God is first of all defined as the `` greatest possible being `` . ''"
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1,964 | 530 |
"Really ? Care to point out which facts she misrepresented ?"
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"See my replies above ."
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"to point out"
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"See my replies above ."
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1,965 | 530 |
"Really ? Care to point out which facts she misrepresented ?"
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"See my replies above ."
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"Care to point out which facts she misrepresented ?"
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"See my replies above"
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1,961 | 530 |
"Really ? Care to point out which facts she misrepresented ?"
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"See my replies above ."
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"Care to point out which facts she misrepresented"
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"my replies above"
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1,963 | 530 |
"Really ? Care to point out which facts she misrepresented ?"
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"See my replies above ."
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DISAGREE
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"Really ? Care to point out which facts she misrepresented ?"
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"See my replies above ."
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1,962 | 530 |
"Really ? Care to point out which facts she misrepresented ?"
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"See my replies above ."
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DISAGREE
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"Care to point out which facts she misrepresented ?"
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"See my replies above ."
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1,968 | 531 |
"I 'd have to agree with Sotomayor . So far , I have not heard one logical argument for giving the state the ability to assert control over the body of a woman and make very private decisions for her ."
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"Do you agree with me that a child 's right to their life should begin when their life does ? I 'm just wondering , ...."
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"the ability to assert control over the body of a woman and make very private decisions for her"
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"child 's right to their life should begin when their life does"
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1,967 | 531 |
"I 'd have to agree with Sotomayor . So far , I have not heard one logical argument for giving the state the ability to assert control over the body of a woman and make very private decisions for her ."
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"Do you agree with me that a child 's right to their life should begin when their life does ? I 'm just wondering , ...."
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"So far , I have not heard one logical argument for giving the state the ability to assert control"
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"child 's right to their life should begin when their life does ? I 'm just wondering"
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1,969 | 531 |
"I 'd have to agree with Sotomayor . So far , I have not heard one logical argument for giving the state the ability to assert control over the body of a woman and make very private decisions for her ."
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"Do you agree with me that a child 's right to their life should begin when their life does ? I 'm just wondering , ...."
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DISAGREE
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"I have not heard one logical argument for giving the state the ability to assert control over the body of a woman and make very private decisions for her ."
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"Do you agree with me that a child 's right to their life should begin when their life does ?"
| null | null |
1,970 | 531 |
"I 'd have to agree with Sotomayor . So far , I have not heard one logical argument for giving the state the ability to assert control over the body of a woman and make very private decisions for her ."
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"Do you agree with me that a child 's right to their life should begin when their life does ? I 'm just wondering , ...."
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"have not heard one logical argument for giving the state the ability to assert control over the body of a woman make very private decisions for her ."
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"you agree with me that a child 's right to their life should begin when their life does ?"
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1,972 | 532 |
"DC has a law that human and civil rights can not be put up for a vote , this is the way it should be in the rest of the country . Why do you want to be able to vote on other peoples lives ? Why is it that you are so cruel ?"
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"Since when was having the gov't recognize a marriage a human right ?"
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"DC has a law that human and civil rights can not be put up for a vote , this is the way"
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"gov't recognize a marriage a human right"
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1,975 | 532 |
"DC has a law that human and civil rights can not be put up for a vote , this is the way it should be in the rest of the country . Why do you want to be able to vote on other peoples lives ? Why is it that you are so cruel ?"
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"Since when was having the gov't recognize a marriage a human right ?"
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DISAGREE
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"human and civil rights can not be put up for a vote is the way it should be in the rest of the country . Why do you want to be able to vote on other peoples lives ?"
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"when was having the gov't recognize a marriage a human right ?"
| null | null |
1,974 | 532 |
"DC has a law that human and civil rights can not be put up for a vote , this is the way it should be in the rest of the country . Why do you want to be able to vote on other peoples lives ? Why is it that you are so cruel ?"
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"Since when was having the gov't recognize a marriage a human right ?"
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DISAGREE
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"DC has a law that human and civil rights can not be put up for a vote , this is the way it should be in the rest of the country ."
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"when was having the gov't recognize a marriage a human right ?"
| null | null |
1,973 | 532 |
"DC has a law that human and civil rights can not be put up for a vote , this is the way it should be in the rest of the country . Why do you want to be able to vote on other peoples lives ? Why is it that you are so cruel ?"
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"Since when was having the gov't recognize a marriage a human right ?"
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DISAGREE
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"DC has a law that human and civil rights can not be put up for a vote"
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"Since when was having the gov't recognize a marriage a human right ?"
| null | null |
1,980 | 533 |
"How many times have you spammed that argument super ? 10 ? 15 ? 20 times ? CB102 : Mutations adding information CB101.2 : Mutations and new features ."
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"Another strawman . Explain to me how new information and new features equals to new structures and body parts . Those links have long been refuted http : //www.creationwiki.org/ ( Talk.Or ... dd_information http : //www.creationwiki.org/ ( Talk.Or ... e_new_features"
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"10 ? 15 ? 20 times ?"
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"Those links have long been refuted http : //www.creationwiki.org/ ( Talk.Or ... dd_information http : //www.creationwiki.org/ ( Talk.Or ... e_new_features"
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1,977 | 533 |
"How many times have you spammed that argument super ? 10 ? 15 ? 20 times ? CB102 : Mutations adding information CB101.2 : Mutations and new features ."
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"Another strawman . Explain to me how new information and new features equals to new structures and body parts . Those links have long been refuted http : //www.creationwiki.org/ ( Talk.Or ... dd_information http : //www.creationwiki.org/ ( Talk.Or ... e_new_features"
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"How many times have you spammed that argument Mutations adding information Mutations and new features ."
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"Another strawman Those links have long been refuted"
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