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Qwen 3.8 27B Optimized Quality

8-bit dynamic quant. Good coding speeds and perfect quality.

The closest of the three MTPLX Qwen 3.8 builds to the original bf16 model. Every weight matrix at 8-bit, sensitive parts at 16-bit, native multi-token-prediction head kept, so MTPLX still drafts ahead and verifies in one pass. Pick this when you want the answer the full model would give and still want it fast.

Speeds

Measured on an M5 Max, fans verified at max, single stream, generation running to the model's own stop, official Qwen 3.8 sampling (temperature 1.0, top-p 0.95, top-k 20).

Run tok/s
Coding task, medium reasoning, inside the MTPLX Mac app 48.3
Long reasoning at xhigh, 34k and 46k token answers 33.2 and 33.1

Same night, same task, the 4-bit builds: Qwen 3.6 27B Optimized Speed V2 59.9 to 60.1 tok/s, Qwen 3.8 Optimized Speed 58.7, Bare Speed 65.2. This is the quality pick, not the speed pick, and it is still well past 40 tok/s while running the full-precision distribution.

Draft acceptance on the coding task by depth: 0.96, 0.88, 0.79. Verify cost 63.5 ms per round. Depth 3 was measured at +19.9% over depth 2 on the long reasoning task.

How it is built

  • Every weight matrix at 8-bit with 64-weight groups.
  • The GDN convolution kernels and recurrent state parameters, every norm, and the whole MTP head stay 16-bit.
  • KL divergence to the original bf16 model on our coding battery: 0.00105. That is 21x closer than Optimized Speed and 36x closer than Bare Speed. In practice you will not tell the outputs apart from the bf16 model.
Download 29.4 GB
Peak unified memory (measured, this artifact) 32.7 GB
Context window 262,144 tokens
MTP depth 3
Sampling temperature 1.0, top-p 0.95, top-k 20 (the official Qwen 3.8 contract)

The tuned depth and draft settings ship inside mtplx_runtime.json. MTPLX reads them on load. Speculation is exact: drafts are accepted with the probability-ratio rule plus residual resampling, so the output follows the model's own distribution at any temperature. Reasoning effort levels (xhigh, medium, low) work, and preserved thinking flows through the MTP path.

Use it

You want 36 GB of unified memory or more for this one. Mac app: download at mtplx.com, pick "Qwen 3.8 27B Optimized Quality".

Command line:

pip install mtplx
mtplx serve --model Youssofal/Qwen3.8-27B-MTPLX-Optimized-Quality

Siblings: Optimized Speed (recommended for coding) and Bare Speed (quickest burst chat speeds). On an M1 or M2 Mac use the FP16 build of this model.

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