question: What is the relation between Indian Aryans and Nazi Aryans ?
comment: The Aryans were an ancient civilization in what is now Iran. They were said to be more technologically advanced than everyone around them (a city on a hill). The swaztika was actually a pretty universally used symbol dating to Mesopotamian roots. In ancient Athens however, it stood for victory. That's probably why Hitler used it, if I had to guess.
passages: Witzel traces the "indigenous Aryan" idea to the writings of Savarkar and Golwalkar. Golwalkar (1939) denied any immigration of "Aryans" to the subcontinent, stressing that all Hindus have always been "children of the soil", a notion which according to Witzel is reminiscent of the "blood and soil" of contemporary fascism . Since these ideas emerged on the brink of the internationalist and socially oriented Nehru-Gandhi government, they lay dormant for several decades, and only rose to prominence in the 1980s.
   Nazi ideologist Alfred Rosenberg stated that although the Vedic culture was Aryan in origin, any Nordic blood had long since been lost due to racial mixing. Like Hitler, he viewed the British rule in India as being desirable. Asit Krishna Mukherji, with support of the German consulate, published "The New Mercury", a National Socialist magazine and was lauded by Baron von Selzam in a "communiqué to all German legations in the Far East that no one had rendered services to the Third Reich in Asia comparable to those of Sir Asit Krishna Mukherji's." Savitri Devi, who would later marry him, shared his beliefs "in the pan Aryan revival of India", as well as in Hindu nationalism, and once World War II started, both "undertook clandestine war work on behalf of the Axis powers in Calcutta."
   In contrast to the mainstream views, the Hindu revivalist movements denied an external origin to Aryans. Dayananda Saraswati, the founder of the Arya Samaj (Society of Aryans), held that Vedas were the source of all knowledge and were revealed to the Aryans. The first man (an Aryan) was created in Tibet and, after living there for some time, the Aryans came down and inhabited India, which was previously empty.
   Lars Martin Fosse notes the political significance of "Indigenous Aryanism". He notes that "Indigenous Aryanism" has been adopted by Hindu nationalists as a part of their ideology, which makes it a "political" matter in addition to a scholarly problem. The proponents of Indigenous Aryanism necessarily engage in "moral disqualification" of Western Indology, which is a recurrent theme in much of the indigenist literature. The same rhetoric is being used in indigenist literature and the Hindu nationalist publications like the "Organiser".
   BULLET::::- Arya (actor) (born 1980), south Indian actor
  
  Section::::Organizations.
  
  BULLET::::- Arya Samaj, a Hindu reform movement founded by Swami Dayananda
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan Brotherhood, a white supremacist street gang and organized crime syndicate in the United States
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan Brotherhood of Texas
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan Guard, a neo-Nazi group based in Alberta, Canada
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan League, an Iranian Neo-Nazi political party; See List of neo-Nazi organizations
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan Nations, a white supremacist religious organization
  
  BULLET::::- White Aryan Resistance, a neo-Nazi white separatist organization
  
  Section::::Films.
  
  BULLET::::- Arya (2004 film), a Telugu Tollywood film starring Allu Arjun
   Section::::See also.
  
  BULLET::::- Ahnenpass
  
  BULLET::::- Anatolian hypothesis
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan Games
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan paragraph
  
  BULLET::::- Aryanization (Nazism)
  
  BULLET::::- Esotericism in Germany and Austria
  
  BULLET::::- Ethnic groups in Europe
  
  BULLET::::- Haplogroup I-M253
  
  BULLET::::- Haplogroup R1a
  
  BULLET::::- Haplogroup R1b
  
  BULLET::::- Heathenry (new religious movement)
  
  BULLET::::- Honorary Aryan
  
  BULLET::::- Indo-Aryan migration
  
  BULLET::::- Indo-European languages
  
  BULLET::::- Irano-Afghan race
  
  BULLET::::- Kurgan hypothesis
  
  BULLET::::- Neo-völkisch movements
  
  BULLET::::- Nordic race
  
  BULLET::::- Nordic theory
  
  BULLET::::- Race Life of the Aryan Peoples
  
  BULLET::::- Sarmatism
  
  BULLET::::- Scandinavism
  
  BULLET::::- Thule Society
  
  BULLET::::- White nationalism
  
  BULLET::::- White supremacy
  
  Section::::References.
  
  Notes
  
  Bibliography
  
  Further reading
   Swami Dayananda founded a Dharmic organisation Arya Samaj in 1875. Sri Aurobindo published a journal combining nationalism and spiritualism under the title "Arya" from 1914 to 1921.
  
  Section::::History.:Religious use.:Buddhism.
   The Theosophical Society held that the Aryans were indigenous to India, but that they were also the progenitors of the European civilisation. The Society saw a dichotomy between the spiritualism of India and the materialism of Europe.
  
  The Hindu nationalists, led by Savarkar and Golwalkar, eager to construct a Hindu identity for the nation, held that the original Hindus were the Aryans and that they were indigenous to India. There was no Aryan invasion and no conflict among the people of India. The Aryans spoke Sanskrit and spread the Aryan civilization from India to the west.
   "The Aryan Path" was founded in January 1930. In its first edition, a writer named "Shravaka" emphasised that so much "original" writing is done today, so much "self-expression" is indulged in that, in the glamour that is raised, the chants of the Gods remain unheard. One of our tasks is to bring home the truth that it is not derogatory to respect the old age facts of the science of the soul. 
   The Theosophical movement, founded by Helena Blavatsky and Henry Olcott at the end of the nineteenth century, took inspiration from Indian culture, in this case, perhaps, from the Hindu reform movement the Arya Samaj founded by Swami Dayananda.
  
  Blavatsky argued that humanity had descended from a series of "root races", naming the fifth root race (out of seven) the Aryan race. She thought that the Aryans originally came from Atlantis and described the Aryan races with the following words:
   Meanwhile, in India, the British colonial government had followed de Gobineau's arguments along another line, and had fostered the idea of a superior "Aryan race" that co-opted the Indian caste system in favor of imperial interests. In its fully developed form, the British-mediated interpretation foresaw a segregation of Aryan and non-Aryan along the lines of caste, with the upper castes being "Aryan" and the lower ones being "non-Aryan". The European developments not only allowed the British to identify themselves as high-caste, but also allowed the Brahmins to view themselves as on-par with the British. Further, it provoked the reinterpretation of Indian history in racialist and, in opposition, Indian Nationalist terms, and – in following a special interpretation of Max Müller's identification of "Aryan" as a national name – this gave rise recently among Hindu nationalists (the "Saffron Brigade") to the "indigenous Aryans" or so-called "Out of India" theory, disputed by many scholars in academia, which seeks an Indian origin of the Indo-European "Aryans".
   BULLET::::- Neale Donald Walsch, "Astronomical Proof of the Mahabharata War and Shri Krishna: Part I"
  
  BULLET::::- The Vedic Foundation, "Mahabharat 3139 B.C."
  
  BULLET::::- Critics
  
  BULLET::::- Thapar, Romila: The Aryan question revisited (1999)
  
  BULLET::::- Witzel, Michael: The Home of the Aryans
  
  BULLET::::- Witzel, "Horseplay at Harappa", Harvard University
  
  BULLET::::- A tale of two horses – Frontline, 11–24 November 2000.
  
  BULLET::::- The Hindutva Movement and Reinventing of History – FOSA by Amartya Sen
  
  BULLET::::- A Ravinutala, "Politicizing the Past: Depictions of Indo-Aryans in Indian Textbooks from 1998–2007"
  
  BULLET::::- Academic discussions
   The Aryan theory served politically to suggest a common ancestry and dignity among the colonised Indians and their British rulers. Keshab Chunder Sen saw the English rule in India as a "reunion of parted cousins." The nationalist leader Bal Gangadhar Tilak endorsed the antiquity of "Rigveda", dating it to 4500 BC. He placed the homeland of the Aryans somewhere close to the North Pole. From there, Aryans were believed to have migrated south in the post-glacial age, branching into a European branch that relapsed into barbarism and an Indian branch that retained the original, superior civilisation.
   BULLET::::- Institutes and other websites
  
  BULLET::::- Indic Studies Foundation
  
  BULLET::::- A Tribute to Hinduism – compilation
  
  BULLET::::- Hindu Wisdom, "Aryan Invasion Theory"
  
  BULLET::::- Pragatya - Magazine of Indic Ideas and Culture
  
  BULLET::::- Chronology of Bharat
  
  BULLET::::- Hindu Timeline
  
  BULLET::::- Chronological chart of the history of Bharatvarsh since its origination
  
  BULLET::::- Royal Chronology and History of INDIA (Bharat)
  
  BULLET::::- Bharatiya Timeline
  
  BULLET::::- Reclaiming the chronology of Bharatvam
  
  BULLET::::- The History of Bharata or India According to Indian Astronomy
  
  BULLET::::- Bharata War
  
  BULLET::::- Indic Studies Foundation, "Dating the Kurukshetra War"
  
  BULLET::::- Dr.P.V.Vartak, "The Scientific Dating of the Mahabharat War"
   Race Life of the Aryan Peoples
  
  Race Life of the Aryan Peoples is a book written by Joseph Pomeroy Widney, published in New York by Funk & Wagnalls in 1907, of the history of the Aryan race, a hypothesized race commonly described in the late 19th and early 20th century as consisting of native "Indo-European Language-speaking peoples" of Caucasian ancestry, i.e., those ethnic groups that are the native speakers of Indo-European Languages regarded as descended from the original speakers of Proto-Indo European.
   Thind argued that as a high-caste Indian he was "Aryan" and therefore "Caucasian". The Court found that "the Aryan theory, as a racial basis, seems to be discredited by most, if not all, modern writers on the subject of ethnology," and noted that "the Caucasic division of the human family is 'in point of fact the most debatable field in the whole range of anthropological studies.'"
   Heinrich Himmler (the "Reichsführer" of the SS), the person ordered by Adolf Hitler to implement the Final Solution, or the Holocaust, told his personal masseur Felix Kersten that he always carried with him a copy of the ancient Aryan scripture, the Bhagavad Gita because it relieved him of guilt about what he was doing – he felt that like the warrior Arjuna, he was simply doing his duty without attachment to his actions.
  
  Section::::Aryanism.:Italian Fascism.
   BULLET::::- Arya (2007 film), a Tamil film starring R. Madhavan and Bhavana
  
  BULLET::::- "Arya 2", a 2009 Telugu film
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan (1988 film)
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan (2014 film)
  
  BULLET::::- "The Aryan", 1915 American silent film
  
  Section::::Places.
  
  BULLET::::- Herat, Afghanistan, a city in Northwest Afghanistan
  
  BULLET::::- Varian, Iran, a village in Alborz Province, Iran
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan, Kurdistan, a village in Kurdistan Province, Iran
  
  BULLET::::- Aryan, Razavi Khorasan, a village in Razavi Khorasan Province, Iran
  
  BULLET::::- Arya (urban-type settlement), an urban-type settlement in Nizhny Novgorod Oblast, Russia
  
  Section::::Other uses.
  
  BULLET::::- Arya (Buddhism), a concept in Buddhism
   By then, the term "Indo-Iranian" and "Indo-European" had made most uses of the term "Aryan" superfluous in the eyes of a number of scholars, and "Aryan" now survives in most scholarly usage only in the term "Indo-Aryan" to indicate (speakers of) North Indian languages. It has been asserted by one scholar that Indo-Aryan and Aryan may not be equated and that such an equation is not supported by the historical evidence, though this extreme viewpoint is not widespread.
   The idea of "Indigenous Aryanism" fits into traditional Hindu ideas of religious history, namely that Hinduism has timeless origins, with the Vedic Aryans inhabiting India since ancient times. The Vedic Foundation states:
  
  Section::::Indigenist scenarios.
  
  Section::::Indigenist scenarios.:Indigenous Aryans scenarios.
  
  Michael Witzel identifies three major types of "Indigenous Aryans" scenarios:
  
  Kazanas adds a fourth scenario:
  
  Section::::Indigenist scenarios.:Main arguments of the Indigenists.
   Section::::Indigenist scenarios.:David Frawley.
  
  In books such as "The Myth of the Aryan Invasion of India" and "In Search of the Cradle of Civilization" (1995), Frawley criticises the 19th century racial interpretations of Indian prehistory, such as the theory of conflict between invading Caucasoid Aryans and Dravidians. In the latter book, Frawley, Georg Feuerstein, and Subhash Kak reject the Aryan Invasion theory and support Out of India.
  
  Bryant commented that Frawley's historical work is more successful as a popular work, where its impact "is by no means insignificant", rather than as an academic study,
   Max Mueller, who translated the Rigveda during 1849–1874, postulated an original homeland for all Aryans in central Asia, from which a northern branch migrated to Europe and a southern branch to India and Iran. The Aryans were presumed to be fair-complexioned Indo-European speakers who conquered the dark-skinned "dasas" of India. The upper castes, particularly the Brahmins, were thought to be of Aryan descent whereas the lower castes and Dalits ("untouchables") were thought to be the descendents of "dasas".
   Section::::Impact.:Ghadar Party and IIC.
   Section::::Argument.
  
  Thind argued that his people, the Aryans, were the conquerors of the indigenous people of India.
  
  Thind argued that Indo-Aryan languages are indigenous to the Aryan part of India in the same way that Aryan languages are indigenous to Europe, highlighting the linguistic ties between Indo-Aryan speakers and Europeans, as most European languages including English are similar to Indo-Aryan languages such as Hindi.
   The idea of "Indigenous Aryans" is supported with specific interpretations of archaeological, genetic, and linguistic data, and on literary interpretations of the Rigveda. Standard arguments, both in support of the "Indigenous Aryans" theory and in opposition the mainstream Indo-Aryan Migration theory, are:
  
  BULLET::::- Questioning the Indo-Aryan Migration theory:
  
  BULLET::::- Re-dating India's chronology, re-establishing the Vedic-Puranic chronology:
  
  Section::::Indigenist scenarios.:Aurobindo's Aryan world-view.
  
raw_presuppositions: There is a relation between Indian Aryans and Nazi Aryans.
raw_corrections: There is not a direct relation between the two, but the Nazis used a symbol common in the Aryan civilization that Athens then used for victory.