 So when you go to Axelrod right after the debate, he's throwing him under the bus like that. That's letting you know that's where Obama's at. He was a former Obama advisor. He sure was. Well, and Obama's own press secretary that David Plouffe got on TV and said they looked like they were 30 years apart from each other. 30 years apart. They're only a couple years difference in age. And, of course, he's right. Biden, uh-uh.