 Oh, well, that's great. Uh-huh. And the last name of When the Snake's Away is Helmut. Helmut Tributsch. He lectured here at Stanford for a semester, and I didn't find out about it until he left. I'm just kicking myself. I didn't get a chance to talk to him because he is just a classic scientist and took an awful lot of guff from people that had no right to...