 ask for help because they said they got it wrong when they asked for the police to be defunded after George Floyd during 2020. And so they've asked for help now. That's how bad Oakland has become. So I think that this is the cleansing maybe of Oakland so that it can get back to at least what it was before all of this. All right, let's get back to the debate. Let's get one of our colleagues in trouble. Hugh Hewitt was discussing the debate and the hosts of the debate, and he had something...