 What she said, she discouraged them. Sometimes juries will say, well, what does everybody think? How many think are guilty? And 12 hands go up. She wanted them to go over the evidence, a lot of witnesses. That's what the judge did, and I thought that was a good move on her part, and she had every right to do that. So I think that they feel obligated to go over, at least make an effort to show that they went over the thousands and thousands and thousands of pages and pieces of evidence