 They're the first and third Mondays of each month. But we do have informal meetings on particular items that come before us where we want more information or want to have an informal discussion. And so we'll vote to have an informal meeting on a particular topic. And it can be scheduled any day of the week. It doesn't have to be the same day as a regular meeting. But we know that councils are typically available regular meeting days, so we'll usually schedule it right before a regular meeting.