 If you were to say in the last 50 years, in the post-World War II era, where American capitalism was most alive and was at its healthiest place, when would that be? No, I think it's been a steady deterioration. So that's my point, that there's been no point in time. I think it's been a steady deterioration that's taken place now. I'd say in the 1980s and 1990s, we did see some interval of restraint happen.