 Some of the other cohorts were on trial. So right now he's on charge, charged with national security law offenses, which could see him put in jail for a minimum of 10 years and a maximum of life. Given the fact that he's 76 years old, even a 10 year sentence would be would be a pretty heavy blow. It's interesting, John, you ask that and it's kind of hard to answer because the prosecution has spent the last six months showing that Jimmy Lime,