Classic Vs Artisan: Hi can anybody tell me what is the difference between the classic model and the the Artisan model and which is better model ???
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The Artisan model has a larger mixing bowl (5qt) with a handle on it, and a larger motor 350watts. Easier to use than the Classic due to the ergonomics of the bowl, less motor strain when mixing heavy doughs or large batches.
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I don't know about the R200, but I'd sure steer clear of the Artisan 50. I set it up and ran exactly 3 prints, one in color, and sent it back. Color was poor and the machine was amazingly noisy for such a small printer. Even noisy in b&w.; And, it took forever to get one print out of it.
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To be honest I don't know what differences there are between the models. But what I can tell you is that I am very happy with my purchase. I used it to make a wedding cake last March. It handled the 14 inch round 4 inch high cake with no problems. I would buy this cake stand agian in a heart beat. Sorry I can't be anymore help then that. :)
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There's a lot of discussion about the advantages of the old version in the Amazon user reviews of both versions. I bought the (more expensive) old version and am happy with it, but never tried the newer one for comparison.
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I am confused by this as well. Why would the older, out-dated version cost more? It is not an antique!
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I am an owner, not a merchant. I have the first version which is green and the latest model is blue. I've examined the blue version and cannot find a significant difference between the two, other than cosmetic. I've been using mine a few years and it works great, assuming it is set up correctly with a good blade. The current price shown in the Amazon add is about $100 more than I paid but, that was a few years ago and I didn't get free shipping so, you might want to look at all costs involved.
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As noted, they're pretty much the same, except the Plus has the dual speaker surround option. The Plus is a bit bigger (but not really noticeable) and the Classic is a bit heavier (again only slightly noticeable). The Plus is "prettier" as the color is throughout, whereas the Classic has the black top and bottom, even on the nice brightly-colored ones. The main difference I noticed was that the Classic has an on/off switch on the bottom, but the Plus has a bubble button which you push and hold to turn on/off. Otherwise, they're the same, same features, lasts the same and sound the same. Which is what's important, right?! As noted, they're pretty much the same, except the Plus has the dual speaker surround option. The Plus is a bit bigger (but not really noticeable) and the Classic is a bit heavier (again only slightly noticeable). The Plus is "prettier" as the color is throughout, whereas the Classic has the black top and bottom, even on the nice brightly-colored ones. The main difference I noticed was that the Classic has an on/off switch on the bottom, but the Plus has a bubble button which you push and hold to turn on/off. Otherwise, they're the same, same features, lasts the same and sound the... » Read More As noted, they're pretty much the same, except the Plus has the dual speaker surround option. The Plus is a bit bigger (but not really noticeable) and the Classic is a bit heavier (again only slightly noticeable). The Plus is "prettier" as the color is throughout, whereas the Classic has the black top and bottom, even on the nice brightly-colored ones. The main difference I noticed was that the Classic has an on/off switch on the bottom, but the Plus has a bubble button which you push and hold to turn on/off. Otherwise, they're the same, same features, lasts the same and sound the same. Which is what's important, right?! « Show Less
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We ordered the Professional, but received the everyday model. We reordered and the same unit came, so we just returned the unit. Sorry, but I have no answer for you as to compare of the two.
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I never had the R200, so i cant answer that. I have a pro model the Studio Pro 3880, & occaisionally i have to do a quick print on the Artisan 50, & you can't easily tell the difference.
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Although I have the Artisan 837, the 835 sounds like it has the same problems. I have had the 837 for about 6 months and have done nothing but sing its praises but I started doing Christmas cards late this year and was appalled to find that it was impossible to do card stock reliably unless I put in one sheet at a time - then I couldn't feed without opening the drawer each time due to the awkward feed mechanism. Support had only one answer. Use premium matte paper setting. That's ok for one at a time. Took two full days of priniting. Epson should update these printers keeping the high quality options (6 inks etc) but improving the paper feed. This is a major drawback not readily apparent on purchase. Although I have the Artisan 837, the 835 sounds like it has the same problems. I have had the 837 for about 6 months and have done nothing but sing its praises but I started doing Christmas cards late this year and was appalled to find that it was impossible to do card stock reliably unless I put in one sheet at a time - then I couldn't feed without opening the drawer each time due to the awkward feed mechanism. Support had only one answer. Use premium matte paper setting. That's ok for one at a time. Took two full days of priniting. Epson should update these printers keeping the high... » Read More Although I have the Artisan 837, the 835 sounds like it has the same problems. I have had the 837 for about 6 months and have done nothing but sing its praises but I started doing Christmas cards late this year and was appalled to find that it was impossible to do card stock reliably unless I put in one sheet at a time - then I couldn't feed without opening the drawer each time due to the awkward feed mechanism. Support had only one answer. Use premium matte paper setting. That's ok for one at a time. Took two full days of priniting. Epson should update these printers keeping the high quality options (6 inks etc) but improving the paper feed. This is a major drawback not readily apparent on purchase. « Show Less
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These are old posts but for completeness you can adjust the steam on the bar32. In fact it's the only knob on the machine. Honestly I don't think there is any difference besides the looks. I believe the bar32 is newer. Why would they go from a speak design and downgrade to a box design? Machine works great. Get a cheap burr for under 100 and you've got something to work with.
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Hi! I'm not exactly sure but I have this model and love it. The newest models appear in Sur La Table and are rectangular and bulky looking compared to this cylindrical model. If you care about aesthetics go for this one- it's great!
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Yes, ma'am, it will. Kitchen Aid gives different model numbers for things like the accessories that came with the mixer, the color, and whether it's been refurbished. so don't worry about that. Don't even worry whether it's made for Classic Plus or Ultra Power. The CP had 275 watts, the UP had 300 watts, and your Artisan has 325 watts of power, but they all use the same attachments and accessories.They redesigned the dough hook at one point, and this one kneads faster, but I think they ere shipping this model of dough hook before the Artisan came out. Kneading dough too much strengthens the gluten too much, and keeps the dough from rising. Yes, ma'am, it will. Kitchen Aid gives different model numbers for things like the accessories that came with the mixer, the color, and whether it's been refurbished. so don't worry about that. Don't even worry whether it's made for Classic Plus or Ultra Power. The CP had 275 watts, the UP had 300 watts, and your Artisan has 325 watts of power, but they all use the same attachments and accessories.They redesigned the dough hook at one point, and this one kneads faster, but I think they ere shipping this model of dough hook before the Artisan came out. Kneading dough too much... » Read More Yes, ma'am, it will. Kitchen Aid gives different model numbers for things like the accessories that came with the mixer, the color, and whether it's been refurbished. so don't worry about that. Don't even worry whether it's made for Classic Plus or Ultra Power. The CP had 275 watts, the UP had 300 watts, and your Artisan has 325 watts of power, but they all use the same attachments and accessories.They redesigned the dough hook at one point, and this one kneads faster, but I think they ere shipping this model of dough hook before the Artisan came out. Kneading dough too much strengthens the gluten too much, and keeps the dough from rising. « Show Less
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According to KitchenAid's website, differences are: Artisan has glass bowl, no pouring shield and weighs 29 pounds; KSM152PSNK has polished stainless steel bowl, pouring shield and weighs 27 pounds. KitchenAid's website offers the option to compare models.
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wtf is right. why is this going for almost 3x it's regular price? surely there is a new and improved version out there (which normally makes the price of the older model go DOWN). does anyone know?
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If you are going to be making bread, go with the 600 lift-up bowl model, my Artisan can't really handle bread dough gracefully - it really struggles and makes such terrible noises it makes me anxious that it is going to die!
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This is only a wild guess, but I imagine it's the labor that goes into the finish. I bought the less expensive for my husband last Christmas (he loves to cook) and have been very satisfied. We use Barkeeper's Friend to polish it up now and then and it looks great. He has a few pieces of the more expensive type, but other than a small difference in weight, I can't tell any difference in the cooking ability. If you are a real gourmet chef, you probably won't be happy with any but the most expensive cookware. However, if you are like most of us, the less expensive will serve you well for many years. :)