what is the eye relief? and can it be mounted without a rail? via tapped...
354663
Long eye relief (not an expert here) and I don't know if it can be mounted without a rail
354664
The eye relief is the rubber boot sealing off the vision path. The problem isn't the eye relief but the infrared light shown adjacent to the scope. The bolt won't open all the way because it hits the scope. I guess if you mounted it on a semi-automatic it would be ok. You must use reloads that burn all the powder in the barrel to eliminate the flash or shut your eyes before you shoot. lol. One shot and remove the scope.
354665
Eye Relief (according to the manufacturer's website) is 45mm (1.77"). Eye relief is the distance behind the scope you can have your eye, and still be able to see through it properly, and use it in the intended manner; it is NOT the rubber eye-cup, as some here suggest. This is a rather short distance, and means that it isn't compatible with a rifle that has much of a kick (if you don't want the scope punching you in the eye).
354666
The eye relief is the rubber piece that you look through on the scope. It's there to protect you from getting poked in the eye from a high recoil rifle. It can be removed. I don't know how else to mount it properly without a rail.
354667
With respect to the mounting, no it can not be mounted without a rail. Further, the mount on the optic itself should not be removed (there is a label that says warranty will be voided if removed).
751508
My gun came with open sights(no mount). At $250. from AOA, I'm not complaining.
462942
It has one ring mount, adjustable. Dont know of any weaver/picatinny rails that it wouldnt fit.
922312
Yep, it's removable.I actually removed it from the pic mount to directly screw it onto a different system. The rail performed perfectly, I just wanted it mounted closer in line with the bore.Additionally, the sight came with (off the top of my head) the star allen wrench, the pic rail, mounting screws and alternate mounting screws.
161366
You should have no problem mounting whatever optics you choose, once the new rail has been installed
2012591
MINE IS ROCK SOLID, i flipped my mounting bolts over to the left side, added a drop per bolt of red locktight and after getting it finger tight i ever so slightly tightened mine down a half turn or so past finger tight with a socket.. mines never budged. Even at finger tight mine was on pretty solid with no play or wiggle, is your rail aftermarket ? is it a el-cheapo or a quality rail ? is a factory rail on a AR ? im guessing the problem is not the optic.. however you never know. do other mounts fit you rail solid without issue ? contact Lucid.. they are flat out awesome to work with !
1636488
There is a rail for scope mounting but I don't know if it would be worth it. If you can find a decent scope (lightweight) used, somewhere; you'd probably do OK. The open sights are just fine.
131473
When i ordered mine the rails and swivel were NOT included. The mount is excellent, very solid and easy to install. It'll hold a light without fear of twisting or squirming, and it's "lower profile" tucked in against the barrel and magazine tube rather than hanginng off the bottom. But, again, mine did NOT come with the 1913 rails or sling swivel.
1816644
I didn't like the adjustable rail system because it made sighting in the scope impossible for me...the rail would move with every shot...so the seller ended up sending me a fixed rail which corrected the sighting problem...I don't know that you can attach the scope without the rail...I know my crossbow also came with a manual fixed iron type sight that I never did attach...don't know if you could try that (don't really need a scope to hit a target 20-25 yards)...you may just have to wait until they open back up.
117169
You can remove it and the mount. I think either configuration has its pros and cons. As for the quality of this scope and back up sight they are very poor. I would keep looking for a better product. I had issues with both the scope and backup sight.
763457
Just eyeballed my old receiver rail mount which i dont use for the same reasons below,but if you were to use one I think you'd get away with it....just. I'd recommend the trigger mod as well....Google is your friend.Hope this helps.
775619
No need for the picitanny rail, just take it off the gsg5 and this sight sits directly on the rifle :) also it cowitnesses great !
344925
Yes, completely, if mounted immediately adjacent. Spread out the sight and magnifier on the rail and you'll have fitting issues.
1503965
well also bought the mechanically fixed HiViz sights they work are are helpful. depending on if you have a rail or smooth barrel would decide the type but in either case the rail mount winds up being about 18" apart when targeted with a laser bore sighting tool. Its just slaps on but sighting is another store.
188442
unlimited eye relief. I have it mounted on a scout mount on a carbine and it works very well. extremely satisfied with that setup and my Aimpoint in general.
1736787
I found the eye relief to be terrible for my natural cheek weld on my AR 15. I took it off and bought a new scope. I don't think you wouold have full field of vision at 2.5-3" of eye relief.
1423511
The rail does not obscure the iron sights. They are still usable. This mount does not, however, allow you to co-witness an optic with the irons. An optic blocks the irons when mounted.