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Believe it or not, religion isn’t like Instagram. There are influencers who are Christian, but there are not really any Christian Influencers. People usually follow the influence of  
their  
head of church. Their pastor, their priest, their whatever. There’s no one who has influence on a large enough scale besides maybe the Pope and even then, he only has authority over Catholics.

But when I say "Influencers" I mean Celebrities and Politicians. People like the lead singer of Skillet, or, as I said before Donald Trump. Not people on Instagram.
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I think you’re falling into the vocal minority trap. Sure, if you only paid attention to media outlets, it would seem like most Christians would follow along, but in reality, the ones doing the killing would be a small subsection out of all believers.

I've also met Christians irl who have shared these same views irl.
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I mean what would change your view? Enough Christians saying they disagree? The view is not based on anything, it is just your random assumptions and ideas >

A proper argument as to WHY Christians wouldn't be convinced. Though looking at the comments, I got several. >


A proper argument as to WHY Christians wouldn't be convinced. Though looking at the comments, I got several.

Well, right in the Ten Commandments: thou shall not murder / thou shall not kill (exact wording varies) >

I have a problem with the phrasing of most. I don't think most Christians would be convinced of this. Most Christians never go to church let alone listen to any preachers in this obedient way. I would say at most probably a few hundreds Christians would be susceptible to a cult brainwashing them into violence.
Also have a problem with saying religions. It's ideologies in general. All political ideologies on all sides could easily be brainwashed into violence as history as shown. >

Okay but what about watching Fox News, or watching shows/movies with prominent Christian messages? What do they think about Pureflix? >


I am a Quaker. You could not convince me or my brethren "into mass-murder" as "God's will". And I firmly believe  
MOST  
Christians feel the exact same way.

Okay, then hypothetically what would happen if your pastor suddenly decided to start talk about buying guns, and fighting in some holy war against "sinners". Would this person be removed?
Also just so you know I am writing from an American perspective. >

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There are cases when killing of justified, plenty of good Christians served in WW2 after all, but I get the feeling that's not what your talking about.
How do you prevent yourself from getting duped into committing unjustified atrocities based on some religious authority?
In the first place you don't follow false prophets. As it says in the Bible "Ye shall know them by their fruits". Con men and cults only convert people by preying on their insecurities and vulnerabilities. Strengthen your sense of identity and you'll be able leave as soon as you see the inevitable red flags that pop up long before any atrocities occur.
Moreover, good religions don't teach blind obedience, that's not faith. They teach correct principles and let people govern themselves. People make mistakes but as long as the hierachy isn't a corrupt authoritarian power structure, one bad person can't cause an atrocity. >


Moreover, good religions don't teach blind obedience, that's not faith. They teach correct principles and let people govern themselves. People make mistakes but as long as the hierachy isn't a corrupt authoritarian power structure, one bad person can't cause an atrocity.

Wait they don't? It might seem silly to say, but a lot of atheists have said the opposite. Religious people would say otherwise, but even without the bloodlust you do have to admit them trying to promote their religion does come with a heavy bias. >

What does this have to do with Christians?
The Holocaust happened and that wasn't Christians in the name of god. 
Tons of genocides have happened that weren't waged by Christians in the name of god (on a larger, purposeful level obv some people are Christian who believe yada).
Milgram did not only test Christians. 
You might want to read Zimbardo's Lucifer book. >

I understand the reason why Christians want to distance themselves from the Holocaust but let's be realistic.
In 1939, 95% of Germans identified as Christian. 
Hitler used Christianity to justify his actions. Mein Kampf is littered with Christian references. "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."  He described himself with "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”
The Nazis had Gott Mit Uns, God With Us on their uniforms. The Nazi Oath started with "I swear by almighty God this sacred oath: I will render unconditional obedience to the Führer of the German Reich and people, Adolf Hitler, Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht"
You have a Christian population lead by a Christian leader who used references to the Christian god to raise an army draped in Christian symbology in order to carry out a Christian goal to eliminate the Jews (see, 13th century pogroms, the Inquisition, Crusades).  
Yet people claim it has nothing to do with Christianity? >


Yet people claim it has nothing to do with Christianity?

"...one nation, under god..."
House sessions open with a prayer.
People invoking basic religious things does not mean it's necessarily ABOUT the religious things. Antisemitism was rife throughout Europe, not based in Christianity or Catholicism, but based in antisemitism. >

Yes, and are you under the impression that some of America's past behaviors like manifest destiny had no religious element to them?   
If the leadership uses religious arguments to convince religious people to commit genocide,  then its fair to call it religious. Even if the root causes are secular, when leaders invoke religion to convince people to support a cause, it's because they know people will follow them based on religion. 
It is laughable that you claim European antisemitism wasn't based on Christianity.  The Church had been pushing the idea for centuries. The Church blamed the plague on the Jews, Martin Luther, father of Protestantism, wrote an essay called On the Jews and Their Lies.   
If the antisemitism wasn't religious, then where did it come from? I don't recall the Druids or the followers of the Norse gods having a historic beef with Judaism. The Romans had centuries to exterminate the Jews when they ruled the Middle East, but never tried.  And how come antisemitism appeared in so many Christian countries? If it wasn't Christianity, then what beef did the Russians, Spanish, and Germans share with the Jews? 
A man who constantly referred to himself as a Christian, said he was going to eliminate a religious people that Christians had been oppressing for centuries, says he is doing it for the Christian god, refers to Christian writings to justify it, and gets millions of Christians to go along with him? Come on.
Up next, why the crusades weren't religious either. >


Step 3. Fill their heads with truckloads of warmongering propaganda. Most Christians already dehumanize “sinners” (ie: anything not Christian) to a certain extent, so it would be easy to open them up to the idea of a violent theofascist revolution.*

First of all, warmongering propaganda works on everyone, not just religious people. Take Russia for example. Just tell people that Nazis are taking over a country and we’re the only hope for saving those people.
Second, I fully disagree that most Christians “dehumanize sinners”. Most Christians believe that everyone is a sinner so to dehumanize them would be to dehumanize themselves. 

*The few that would disagree in this scenario, would be branded as “false believers” and would be cancelled.

I think you’re falling into the vocal minority trap. Sure, if you only paid attention to media outlets, it would seem like most Christians would follow along, but in reality, the ones doing the killing would be a small subsection out of all believers.

my Christian friend told me that there are sects that wouldn’t all agree. But I still think if enough “influencers” were convinced, then they would agree

Believe it or not, religion isn’t like Instagram. There are influencers who are Christian, but there are not really any Christian Influencers. People usually follow the influence of their head of church. Their pastor, their priest, their whatever. There’s no one who has influence on a large enough scale besides maybe the Pope and even then, he only has authority over Catholics.