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If you look at the deaths per mile statistc, which is way more relevant, motorcycles are unfortunately way more dangerous than cars.
There are whole countries where motorcycles are the primary mode of transportation and outnumber cars… you get used to it. You don’t have to drive like an idiot or too fast. It’s a phenomenal way to get up and down rough terrain in mountainous areas. >

Pretty much what I was gonna say. Versatility, especially in a congested urban environment like mine, is a godsend. Really is a case of “the bad apples spoil the bunch” because there are millions and millions of people who drive their bike safely (without lane filtering) and don’t have loud pipes. >

lane filtering is unsafe? >

No it’s actually safer in most cases if done correctly. >

I've known two people killed in motorcycle accidents and one who suffered irreparable brain damage.  None of them were at fault in these accident, just other drivers not paying attention. >

Other drivers is one of the biggest reasons I wouldn't get a motorcycle (the other being Michigan weather).
My car was totaled last year when I got rear-ended while waiting for a traffic light to change.  I had been stopped for a bit so it wasn't like I slammed on my brakes and the guy behind me couldn't stop in time.  He was just looking at his phone or something instead of looking at the road.
Luckily, I was only sore for a couple days with no major injuries.  If I had been on a motorcycle, I'm pretty sure I'd have at least broken something if not worse. >

If your car was totaled, you would have been too.
From what I understand, most motorcycle fatalities are from exactly what you describe. Not entirely sure tho. >

There would have been a pretty good chance of being squished between two vehicles.  My car did get pushed into the car in front of me.
The repair estimate was over $6k so they considered it totaled and paid out about $8.5k. >

That's why you're taught not to pull up directly behind a car when riding a motorcycle.  You pull off to the side so that you can possibly scoot by the car if needed, or if you do get hit from behind it will push you past the car in front of you and not into it. >

I’ve seen many, many more idiotic car drivers than motorcycle riders. >

Exactly.. That’s why they’re dangerous. And that’s why people that drive them are idiots. Being a responsible motorcycle driver doesn’t change your safety. Some.. But not much. >

They're not dangerous, people not caring about other's safety are the real danger. I don't care about motorcycles but there are good reasons for a lot of people owning them, specially in certain cities. They're cheaper, the insurance is also cheaper, typically they're cheaper to fix, the overall gas consumption is less than a car, you can easily maneuver and park in tight spots. Where I'm from, there's a lot of older people that end up buying "low end" motorcycles cause it makes their lives easier. We shouldn't blame or call someone an idiot for owning a vehicle that's been around for ages now. >

I respectfully disagree. They are dangerous. Accidents can happen to anyone, even the best drivers and even with no other vehicles involved.
And if something does happen, there is nothing to protect you or stop you from becoming a human catapult >

Sounds like you're talking about one specific group of people, which is exacerbated by the fact that only hard-core people drive motorcycles due to their inherent danger caused by cars. >

I have never seen a person on a motorcycle text while driving, which is nice. >

I have. Got stuck behind a guy on a motorcycle who kept wavering throughout the lane while he one-fingered texted on his phone. 
Kept freaking me out every time he slammed the breaks. I could not get out from behind him faster. >

That man just wanted to die. >

Probably. I just wanted to go home. >

Around where I live, there are plenty of "Watch for Motorcycles!" signage and public service announcements.
My father still rides quite a bit in his retirement years, mostly on back country roads.
With that said, my personal experiences with motorcycle users has not been a positive one. I've encountered many reckless drivers (as well as many perfectly behaved ones). I once had a biker punch through a full line of cars- mine included stopped at a highway exit. I think they got within 6 inches of my mirrors.
A staple of my teenage years was whole motorcycle groups going through small towns, just overawing everything with sound.
Overall?
I think they have their place. They can be fun. I've just been less than impressed with who I've run across driving them over the years, and where exactly they are driving them around. >

Driving a motorcycle is absolutely more dangerous than driving a car. >

They are also more fun than driving a car >

It's just like going to work but now you get the excitement of a measurable increase in risk that you might die..... >

You cant win if you never dare in life. >

Dare to be a road crayon :) >

Meh, still a cooler death than anything you'd get in a car. >

I'm not a fan but it's hard to say there's "nothing good about them" when one considers the fuel economy, simplicity, and low ownership costs that make them the main mode of transportation in many, many parts of the world. >

Disagree with #2  
It is a squeaky wheel gets the grease thing, your average rider is reasonable, but the ones who do stupid stuff stick out way more in your mind.   
As for the nothing being good about them. 50+ miles per gallon is a pretty good plus. While I no longer ride because of #1 I will say that there are very few things that can compare to having a nice long mostly empty stretch of highway on a motorcycle. >

There’s nothing good about them? What about fuel efficiency. >

Its not the miles per gallon. Its the smiles per gallon >

My insurance agent was telling me that motorcycle insurance is way cheaper that car insurance.  I was a little shocked so I asked why.  His response, " caskets are cheaper than healthcare." >

You don't kill other people when you crash your motorcycle. You do in a car. >

I remember a lady getting killed because of a motercyclist driving too fast, went through a red light and t boned another car, and flew onto the sidewalk and pretty much headbutted a woman while flying. Freak accident but dont think anyone is safe while you do your hoodrat shit. >

All over the world, motorcycles make transportation function. They’re far better for congestion, use far less fuel, and take up less space when stored. 
The problem is that they became associated with criminals and other unsavory elements in America and this basic commuter riding never developed to the same degree. Bikes here are overpowered and sold for their badass image, rather than their practicality. The danger of motorcycles is largely due to cars that are bad at sharing roads rather than the bikes themselves. 
Lots of idiots ride idiotically. That’s true but that’s an issue with the people, not the machines. Also, motorists are rarely endangered by motorcyclists so even with those idiots, motorcycles are less dangerous to the genera public. >

It seems that you have more of an issue with people as it pertains to the use of motorcycles rather than the motorcycles themselves. 
Is it the bike itself that causes death or injury? I mean, it’s possible there’s a mechanical error. Usually the issue is either the person operating the motorcycle or another person operating another vehicle. 
Idiot drivers = people. Although I have heard some animals can drive.
Hard to see when they weave out of traffic? Sounds like an issue with the person driving. If they’re driving where and how they’re supposed to be as are you, shouldn’t be too much of an issue. 
Loudness, I will give you a little credit on that one. But if you’re concerned about visibility, this will at least help you hear them as they zoom about. 
Number five, yeah that’s fricken irritating.. you got me there. >

Loud bikes save lives! >

That’s a myth, it always has been. It’s the same type of people who modify their cars to be loud, they don’t care about noise pollution or being disruptive. And as someone who drives a quiet EV and has normal hearing, you can’t hear them until they’re right on your side, that’s just basic physics. >

Motorcycles are the best.
Cost effective (last longer for the money spent than cars/SUVs/trucks)
50 miles to the gallon
Insurance is $200 per YEAR
Can repair myself
Can park is small spaces
Hella fun >

if you consider that in colder climates, you’d only get to use them for like 4-5 months, the efficiency becomes questionable >

I live in Northern Minnesota, so that's already part of my assessment >

I hope you have a dualie. The potholes are crazy. >

I do have to be careful on strange roads 😅 >

In my early 20s I had a total of two, ever since I saw a ninja in a movie I wanted one.  Anyway I had a small group that had em as well.  They all wiped out, some left with road rashes, others with pins and what not in their legs.  I always respected mine, and drove defensively for the most part.  But there is nothing better than waking up on a perfect 75 degree day and riding a motorcycle, haven't had one in years but if you can escape without crashing in the end it really is a joy, and much cheaper than a car in the summer. >

Yeah cars never kill anybody, are driving by idiots, freak out when driving, have shitty mufflers or idiots playing music too loud or pull in and out of spots without checking. >

India and China would like to disagree. >

Or pretty much anywhere outside North America >

If more people ride motorcycles cities would have way more parking >

For every stupid motorcycle rider there are 5 more stupid car drivers >

Like the one who pulled out in front of me.
Fuck you and your shitty ass car, grandma!
(It truly was a sad car, it was a REALLY beat up late 90’s Toyota Camry in a goldish silver color.)
Edit: I was on my bike at the time as well.