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The military industrial complex is much more than just the arms industry.
I didn't say 'Abe Lincoln'. I said, 'Hey Blinken.' >

Every time I see this man's name. Every time. >

God this was the first and second thought I had before clicking this post. “Blinkin, fix ya boobs. You look like a bleed in’ Picasso!” >

So glad I rewatched that yesterday. >

That is  complete waste of time. Netenyahu already said that there will be no 2-state solution, and his previous comments about it were lies to fool the US. >

Interesting story. You seem to have forgotten the part where Israel expelled hundreds of thousands of people from their homes multiple times, and currently runs an apartheid regime in which half of the human beings under its control are denied basic human rights. >

What would have been better for the Palestinian people? 
Accepting a 2 state deal with 95% of the Westbank and all of Gaza theirs to inhabit as they see fit, or to refuse it by harping on the right to return and kill a bunch of Israeli civilians instead? 
The status quo is unjust, but the fact that the Palestinians are unwilling to compromise at all is what keeps this entire thing going on forever. >

Would you say the same thing to Ukrainian about their lost territories? >

Yes, if Ukraine in 70 years time was offered 95% of their land back, while being fully occupied having lost Wars 70, 60 and 30 years ago I would call them Insane for not agreeing to that. 
Of course that is not the situation right now at all, the Ukraine war is not the better part of a century ago, it is happening right now and the final borders are still being fought about. Just as the Arab states did from the get go. >

Fair enough. However, the underlying sentiment felt by generations of  Palestinians are probably similar to what Ukrainians are experiencing past 11 months. In the end, we are still talking about telling a victimized people to make compromise to an injustice. >

But is the alternative better for anyone? 4th Generation Palestinians growing up in refugee camps in Lebanon, are they really served better by never arriving to a deal because of it being an injustice however small? 
I infact believe that the Status quo is worse for the Palestinians than an independent Palestine with 95% of their 1963 land back. >

Nice speech, but exactly what work is being done by the United States to create and promote a viable, contiguous, sovereign Palestinian state? >

Israel, the way it's illegally settled the West Bank, has ensured there won't be two-states, unless Gaza becomes fully autonomous and just turns into a dumping ground for religious and ethnic groups Israel doesn't want.
The only solution now is a secular real democracy - but fundamentalist Jews in Israel won't let that happen. They prefer their racist, pseudodemocracy that upholds their extremist beliefs. >

Racist pseudo democracy? Dude have you SEEN how the PA operates?? >

Does that make Israel less of a racist pseudo-democracy? >

It makes the current situation the far lesser evil. If Israel disappears tomorrow that entire territory will turn into an Iranian proxy dictatorship just like Syria and Lebanon. >

“Lesser evil” loses all meaning when you try to use it to hand wave a genocidal settler colony actively engaging in apartheid and war crimes. >

It doesn’t lose meaning just because you’ve decided to be hyperbolic. The existing situation is the lesser evil. Allowing a Palestinian state in the West Bank will quickly turn it into a Hamas/Iran controlled dictatorship just like Gaza, only with more resources and better strategic positioning over Israeli cities. This will trigger a war with far worse consequences for both sides.
The only way a two state solution works is if all three leaderships decide to put down their weapons and make some difficult compromises. I truly hope that’ll happen some day but it’s surely not going to be under the existing figures representing Israel and the Palestinians. >

We’re talking about literal apartheid and ethnic cleansing. It’s bizarre to me how people can use misinformation to try to twist that into some unfortunate necessity. But this stuff was happening before Hamas even existed, and there have always been excuses for it >

I’ve been there. There’s no apartheid. Israel has over 2m Palestinian citizens with equal rights. It’s simply terrible treatment of the population in occupied territories. They aren’t Israeli citizens, and it seems the majority of them don’t want to be ones. The West Bank settlements need to stop and eventually the West Bank and Gaza should be territories for Palestinian states.
It doesn’t change the fact that currently such a solution is unrealistic, because both Palestinian Territories are run as dictatorships led by Hamas and the PA. Hamas is the more powerful of the two, and its charter still calls for the destruction of Israel. >

>  It’s simply terrible treatment of the population in occupied territories.    
Do you see how this is worse? You do see that this is worse, right? >

Nah, I don’t think it’s worse. I think 80% of the troubles of the Palestinian people are because of the dictatorships that control their lives, both PA and Hamas. Does it matter, though? We can both agree the current situation is shit.
Unfortunately, as I’ve said above, I don’t see any good solution to this conflict. What I’d be for, probably, is a two state solution with an international peace keeping force present to keep it for 10 years or so, but then again, this approach hasn’t worked in Lebanon. >

It's so telling that even the most pro-Israeli commentators don't deny that the settlements in the West Bank are illegal and a violation of international law. They don't deny it, but they never once address the issue of the legality of all these people moving OUTSIDE THEIR COUNTRY to build settlements in an area militarily occupied by their country >

I honestly wonder if they'll ever just go full mask of fascist and "solution" the issue away. I really doubt it since the continued presence of at least some of palestine keeps their right wing in power. >

What the US wants is the CIA Black Sites in Israel to torture some brown people. Additionally keeping the conflict hot is a very good way to keep the military industrial complex happy.
Nobody in a position of power gives a shit about the people living in the middle east and whatever sky daddy they choose to believe in. Religious zealots are just a nice tool to these people. >

The military industrial complex is blown out of proportion. The arms industry is tiny compared to the rest of the economy that would be highly encumbered because of a war. The reality is that Israel is a massively important ally in the region as well as a powerful voting block in our democracy. We should be pushing our elected officials to do better rather than create conspiracy theories.