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Would you suggest CA repeal all gun laws and let the murder rate triple? Assuming it increases from where it currently is to that of Mississippi.
So they want to police themselves?  It’s looking like this is where most of the crimes are being committed, is by those in the republican party all the way to the top. >

Do you have any proof of this claim? >

How many people who worked for Trump were subsequently convicted of crimes? >

I dont know how many? 
What does that have to do with crime in CA? >

You did a sea lion. >

Rare that I see someone on reddit use this correctly and I believe you are correct >

Crime is already illegal. That's the best they have? >

And they claim that gun control is useless because criminals will just ignore it.  Would that also apply to crime control? >

"Criminals don't follow laws" >

We just have to make it illegal for criminals to not follow laws. >

Innocent people murdered because of how easy it is to get a gun in this country...
Republicans: can we get back to locking up drug users and valuing property over people? >

Most proposed gun laws just create more victimless "crimes" and are therefore unacceptable 
Things like shoplifting need to be taken seriously because they have ACTUAL VICTIMS.  
All drugs should be legal >


Things like shoplifting need to be taken seriously because they have ACTUAL VICTIMS. 

Who? >

Whoever is being stolen from. Theft as a concept inherently has a victim. >


Whoever is being stolen from. Theft as a concept inherently has a victim.

That's what I'm asking you. Who is the victim. Be specific, please. >

Well that depends...  In the case of shoplifting? The company being shoplifted from. In the  case of burglary? The homeowner. In the case of a mugging? The person getting mugged. Etc...   Is this that hard to understand? >


Well that depends...

Got it. You have made up your mind about things that you are still trying to understand. >

No... >

How about poverty control then?  Crime is pretty tightly correlated with poverty. 
And that’s only violent crime.  How about wage theft, tax fraud and similar white collar crimes. Are republicans gonna crack down on those too? >

California Republicans are coming out in support of universal basic income for all Californians to help reduce crime by... ^(Whispers in ear) Wait folks I'm being told that is not the plan. California Republicans' plan is to reintroduce laws that didn't work in the past, because it will surely work this time. >

We saw an explosion of new gun ownership in 2020 across a variety of demographics. People armed themselves as a response to fear; a means to try to gain some measure of control over an uncertain and frightening world.
Not all gun ownership is driven by fear. There are hunters, shooting sports enthusiasts, collectors of war memorabilia, and the like. Discounting a variety of reasons why people own guns, fear is the most recent and salient factor for a lot of urban and suburban firearm ownership.
By calling for crime control, these California Republicans are trying to address a core reason for the explosion of firearms ownership. If fewer cars/catalytic converters were stolen, fewer shops had broken windows, fewer drug-addicted people raged out of their minds on the street, you wouldn't have the same fear response that has been pushing firearms ownership.
Reasonable people can disagree with how to reduce crime, but it's not an unreasonable position to take that crime -- especially property crime -- is a real problem and the apparent inability of the state to handle it had lead to individuals seeking to protect themselves. >

Very will said >

"But not like ALL crime, because then WE'D get in trouble for the immoral shit we do. Just like, a vague crime like idea in general, the bits that we haven't been caught doing yet and that doesn't affect the companies that send us huge paychecks." ~GoP... And more than a few OTHER politicians as well. >

It's just the "War on X...". They get to look strong by portraying themselves as warriors saving the country from all of these things by presenting it as a war - and it works because no one really challenges them on what they are not going to war against. >

> California Republicans
LOL >

We actually have more republicans than Montana Wyoming, North Dakota and South Dakota COMBINED.
And that is if 100% of those states population were republican, we’d still have more lol >

[its the same picture meme] >

And this is why Republicans have no power in California anymore. Stop acting like fucking morons. >

Ugh they want to repeal Prop 47 again? Can't they come up with something a little more creative? >

What do you think violent crimes are committed with????????? >

Being against crime, now there's a daring position to take. >

California already has all the gun laws. Turns out criminals who are already willing to break the laws against murder are just gonna keep doing whatever they want no matter how difficult you make life for innocent firearms enthusiasts.