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How many howitzers does Scotland Yard have?
People have been asked to live on too little for too long. Nurses shouldn't need foodbanks to feed themselves and their families. We need to stop trying to build our economy from the top down, we don't need a handful of billionaire CEO's, we need a working class with a good quality of life. >

Yeah like venezuela >

In what regard would that be like Venezuela? >

Because the assumption that ending with the rich people will end up poverty is all wrong and all countries who do that (socialism) have a poor class bigger and with less opportunities. >

What are you on about? >

Economy dude >

That doesn't really narrow it down. >

Im sorry you think that >

You don't think 'economy' is an incredibly broad topic? Okay. >

You want me to explain socialism vs free market in a reddit comment? You just said something that everybody thinks (end with billionaires) but is all wrong. There are more billionaires in USA and poor people all around latin america are risking their lives to go there. In Venezuela they ended up with all megarich and now the country has no business, no employment and is basically a hell on earth. >

I will be on strike tomorrow. I'm not a Nurse or a Teacher, a Police officer or a Firefighter; I don't drive an Ambulance, however, I'm a Civil Servant working for the Scottish Government with over 30 years of service. This is the first time I will have gone on strike in relation to Pay despite being a Union Member (and previously official) for each one of those 31 years. We haven't had a meaningful payrise in over 10 years, roughly speaking we are effectively earning in real terms something like 25-30% less than we were in 2010. Enough is enough. >

Because whilst Ukraine and Corona hurt everyone, we also votes to be a shit-ton poorer by going for Brexit.
People who voted Brexit should be legally forbidden from striking, because lower wages is exactly their fault. >

Well.... Inflation is around 10% all over Europe too, as well as the other parts of the world. We also haven't had a meaningful pay rise since 2010, a full six years before the referendum and around 10 years before actual Brexit. So hard to really blame it all on Brexit to be fair... >

The trouble is the government would argue it can't afford to give civil servants, nhs, teachers, firefighters, train drivers and bus drivers, customs workers, driving instructors and everyone else 15%+ pay rises.
I guess tax rises for all could cover it?  Or we could just put it all on the countries' credit card and let our kids sort it out?  Can't think of any other way?  Maybe take the wages off nurses or firefighter's  pay-packets to fund it?   Massive bond sales would just screw everyone's pensions.
Also, of course, chucking extra money around completely buggers up yer inflation aspirations.
It's a dilemma and I haven't really heard a proposed answer yet from anyone.  I personally think we all have to learn to be poorer, as simply put it's obviously going to be a poorer country here on out now we're on our own.... I don't think anyone could argue with that..
(ps. I hate to be that guy, but I suspect the unions literally don't care or even think about where the money's gonna actually come from  :(   ) >

It's amazing how all the arguments of "Giving you a pay rise will worsen inflation" never count if you're a CEO. Or an MP. Or anyone else making more than £50K a year.
And we pay for it by borrowing.  Borrowing has never been an issue. Debt in government has never been an issue so long as it is invested in the health of the nation, such that it causes economic growth and ultimately increases tax returns above the cost of the debt. We built this country on borrowing. The entire modern world was built on borrowing. The lie that borrowing and debt are negatives in need of "fixing" is just a tool used by the right to grab votes from the uneducated. >

I think Sunak and the torries need to be reminded that, unions and organized striking was the compromise we all agreed on, rather than the old way we was just dragging the factory bosses out of their houses in the night and beating them to death on the lawn. >

Sadly tories had beaten strikers down and changed strike laws after to feel confident. 70s brick layers strike where the strikers got jailed on false reports. 80s Miners strike while not as big as the 1920s general strike was still a major worker’s movement that got close to shaking up workers rights (it went beyond the miners concerns). 
Labour Party has lost most of its socialist working class MPs for more middle class career politicians since new labour.
It’s a hard fight the strikers are up against a lot and history of crushing strikes down >

This is essentially a general strike now, not a bunch of individuals.  The government can't cow the teachers, nurse, ambulance drivers, firefighters and rail workers.  They will lose. >

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Sunak has so far attempted to cast himself as Mr Reasonable, stressing that his "Door is always open" to workers but warning that the right to strike must be "Balanced" with the provision of services.
More than half of people back strike action by nurses, according to new research by Public First, while for teachers the figure is 43 percent, postal workers 41 percent and rail workers 36 percent.
A former Cabinet minister said the most pressing issue in their constituency is the state of public services, and strike action signaled political danger for the government.


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In my experience when someone says 'door is open' the door is actually closed. >


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"Beware the léopard" >

15 fucking years of austerity. People getting poorer year on year. Credit card debts rising and multiple warnings being made that this safety net has a limit.
The limit has been reached. 
You can't blow a foot off with Brexit, then blow the other foot off with Trussonomics, and not expect people to finally snap, either.
Don't worry though! The Tories are introducing laws to sack strikers and sue the unions! 
Strikes already ongoing have seen ministers openly admit they've now cost the country more than it would have been if they had just given the workers a pay rise. 
The evidence of the mismanagement and corruption is plain for all to see in the stats. We're on for a lost two decades at this point. My entire adult life has seen me trying desperately to climb the ladder and increase my wages, and every step taken sees two steps back as I continue to get poorer. 
Fuck the Tories. >

Fuck the voters. >

I remember when I was starting my apprenticeship, the entirety of the class besides me and the other two older students had voted tory. It is seriously baffling and saddening that they had actually been brainwashed by this rubbish when they're exactly the sort of people who benefit from voting for literally anyone apart from tories. >

Same exact thing happens in the American south. The poor conservatives vote party lines and then suffer the consequences of less public services. It simply doesn’t make sense. >

It's almost like these groups are heavily propagandized. >

They should fuckin do it.
Revolt you bastards! >

Americans should too >

Americans are already revolting >

By voting for Republicans? Yeah… good job Americans 😆 >

Oh yeah because the dems will surely lead the Marxist revolt… >

So because the dems aren't good enough, you decide to vote for the worst choice possible ? >

Who said anything about voting? >

My partner is a teacher & she's out with her colleagues on Wednesday, I work in the NHS & we were out a couple weeks back & my postman has been out 3 times since December.never in my whole adult life have I seen soo many institution's taking so much action at the same time
This government is in denial & the Russian money tied bastards need to be voted out. 
Fuck the Tories & fuck anyone in Britain who backs or votes for them >

With the way things are going comparisons to 70s Britain are extremely apt. Sunak will not concede anything while transit workers are likely to see a major part of their workforce retire over the next 2-3 years due to age. Because there is no program to rapidly train new operators, or retain them, or convince them to stop striking without police, this is going to spiral into something much bigger. Which means less trains, longer trains, service cutbacks to mainlines and station elimination. The public won't like it but won't have a choice. Downsizing of public operations for imported cars, sold at a premium from the EU, will hurt badly in the next election.
And if the police choose to strike or sickout, this could seriously destabilize the government as there isn't enough military to preform day-to-day policing. It'd be similar conditions that forced the US to legalize Unions a century ago. >

The police in the UK are expressly forbidden to strike.
But like any rule, you need enough people to enforce it.
If things get bad enough, good luck trying to do so when everyone either works to rule, calls in sick or just quits in large enough numbers. >


The police in the UK are expressly forbidden to strike. But like any rule, you need enough people to enforce it.

- But what if they strike?  
- They get arrested.  
- By whom?  
- By the poli... uh... >

The army >

A google search suggests there are 164,000 police in the UK and 79,000 in the army.