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I think they will once the dust settles
Background: Andrej Babiš, one of the Czech Presidential candidates, said on live TV that as president, he would not send troops to Poland or The Baltics in case of an attack. Polish media picked the story up (and rightfully so) and now Babiš's team is in full damage control mode. It is also important to note that it wasn't a simple misunderstanding, he firmly stood behind his opinion. >

Yeah that was a wery weird thing to say, like Russia is literally pouring out going for the Fulda gap, we're not worst case scenario yet but it's been made clear that nato is as useful as ever...
This guy finances should be investigated thoroughly. >

He's a fraud and an Orbán-like populist. Of course he is crooked, there is no point in investigating him. People have tried, but he is somehow always found not guilty 🙃 He owns like half of our media, I really wonder why. This guy is our Trump and he will lose just like him. And just like Trump, he'll be just another rich fuck we can soon forget. >

For your sake, I hope you guys have better luck with that than we have with Trump. Even if the guy were to disappear into the ocean tomorrow, he has left a deep mark on one of our two major political parties, one that seems on track to persist for the next decade at least. >

The thing is, his target audience and only listeners are old people with no idea how to spot and disregard misinformation. The whole Western world is in the middle of an information war and we've been in it for some time, but this older generation can't acknowledge it because they didn't grow up with technology and don't really see the impact it has on their lives. Nevertheless, the younger generations are full of smart and capable people who have the skills and tools necessary to not only wage, but also successfully counter this information war. The political climate in our country is bad, but not nearly as bad as the US. We are observing, learning, and trying to do better. Our nation is quite young, but we want to remain a developed, democratic country with western values. We'll try our best, let's see in thirty years or so :) >

I seem I am glad to hear that. Hopefully we succeed in unfucking things here in the US as well. >


The Polish president added that "We are all members of the North Atlantic Alliance, where there is Article 5 in the North Atlantic Treaty and this Article 5 is very practical, down to earth, as clearly demonstrated by the terrorist attack on the United States, when the United States called on allies to help… so as you can see, the Treaty is binding and is not theoretical, it is practical."
Zeman said that he considers it absolutely obvious that in case Russia attacks Poland, the Baltic states or any other Nato member, then "just looking at the wording of Article 5, from the point of view of "self-preservation, it is important also in relation to the Czech Republic", the Czechs would be obliged and even willing to help.
Article 5 of the NATO Treaty states that: "The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all." >

Even Icelandic men would join the fight, just like in Iraq.
And we don't even have an army >

Pro-tip: Bring some of those good gas station hot dogs with you. You could trade those to Americans at a name-your-price value after they got their first one. 
Fuckers are like crack. >

I think I would be gun shy with any gas station hotdog no matter where they came from. >

You'd be wrong. Those icelandic ones hit different. >

Iceland is one of my bucket list countries to visit. I'll hold you to this one. A viking gas station hot dog it is then >

The Duda bides. >

FFS ... take my angry upvote ! :D >

Your angry upvote, it really ties the room together man. >

Sin duda >

Tengo Duda >

I read Duda as "Dude". Gave the article a very different air. >

This Dude doesn't seem to like White Russians as much as the movie one, though. >

I'm sure he doesn't mind White Russians, he just hates Army-Navys and Gunfires. As much as anyone hates an Irish Car Bomb. >

Read this as "Dude says Nato Article 5 is not theoretical.." and thought okay but who cares what some random dude says >

Non negotiable. Period >

Quite literally is negotiable. >

10 points to the man out of the loop! >

Oh wow so you now have a 10 point lead? How do I catch up? >

His plan is to ride Putins coattails into the ground I guess? Not the best time to hop on “team Russia” >

It is binding but just saying that is misleading. Simply providing intelligence, weapons or foreign aid would be enough, they are not all required to deploy their military. >

If russia attacks poland it's all out war, we can't let poland get attacked and not attack russia ourselves >

Strategically yes, but realistically I’m in doubt France, Germany or Turkey are actually sending soldiers to support Poland or the Balts >

Why wouldn't they?  Russia is about to get FUCKED and it's always better to be on the winning side. >

Because those countries have shown they don’t give a fuck about neither Poland nor the Balts or that they are more tall than anything.  
Germany and France have already shown multiple times they are not reliable when it comes to confrontation with Russia.   
Erdogan is playing his games. In the end it comes down to what is popular in each country and I have no doubt the Brits or Americans are willing to put their money where they mouth is. Not so sure about Germany >

Nato would instantly fall apart if key members like Germany and France withheld support in an article 5 scenario. You have no evidence to support your claim and are just talking out of your ass. >

So where is your evidence for Germany not being an unreliable ally? Right you don’t, you are just talking crap. Germany has shown now multiple times it values Gasprom over their partners >

As of right now, Germany approved to send heavy tanks into Ukraine. They import zero gas or oil from Russia and are one of the top European supporters of Ukraine. It‘s pretty clear where Germany stands on the issue. Where is your evidence? >

You mean the gas Germany got an exception from sanctions so we can pay with roubles? The gas that the Russians stopped to deliver?    
You mean the tanks that come a year to late, that there is no official statement as of yet and that requires international pressure just like every single delivery Germany did at the latest possible moment? >

Tanks coming a year too late? Bro the war started in February 20th, it‘s not even been a year yet. Oh and the question if Germany would send soldiers? Yeah pretty sure they would. They did after 9/11 and that was in fucking Afghanistan. It‘s not far fetched to believe that Germany would support a neighboring country when under the threat of invasion. Stop being a spiteful Germany hating German and check some facts. >

So why is Poland telling us this? Russia won't attack because they can't compete with nato soldiers. >

Because one of the presidential candidates here in Czechia openly said that he wouldn't send soldier to help NATO allies (Poland specifically) in case they were attacked. >

Any NATO allies who refuse to join should immediately be removed from NATO, including any financial support or trade deals. Otherwise what's the point.
"Ya thanks for protecting US and all the other assistance but we are not going to help. We will be happy to join and get all the kickback in a time of peace." >

Well thats just like, your opinion man. >

Downvoted? Where are the big lebowski fans?? >

It’s one of those overdone redditisms at this point >

I don't doubt it. It would be awesome if NATO had some kind of open door policy. You know letting new democratic countries join NATO. >

as much as I hate having a dictator in Turkey blocking the accession of Sweden as a NATO member it is essential that every member state agrees to a new country joining.
It's a mutual defense agreement and a serious commitment because it essentially means "yes we will fight with all our might to defend your territory". Therefore, everyone has to be on board with it, because there can be no uncertainty in this commitment. >

Hence why Russia won't attack NATO and hence why Ukraine will never be allowed in NATO.