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the problem is that 14 hour days shouldn't be the standard to just make the money you need to get by. Extra hours should be for extra indulgence. Don't take away someone's right for more hours, but we shouldn't be working double digit hours daily only to be told rent is short :))
I don't mind people working 12-14hour days. If they're happy doing it so be it. 
I don't understand it and its not for me, but who cares. Where i start to to have a problem with these people is more often than not, they try to push this lifestyle onto other coworkers who prefer to spend their time at home/doing other shit. 
Like, you can stay at the office until 9p.m. but if you honestly believe i will accept a teams-meeting after 5p.m., you can screw right off. And don't whine about it either, because I'm not the one doing too little, you're the one doing "too much". >

I don't mind people who work 14 hours days. Where I mind is when they basically end up "setting the standard" at their workplace and then everyone else gets compared to them when it comes time for performance reviews, promotions, etc.
It's an unrealistic standard for anyone with a family or other responsibilities or, to be honest, a healthy work-life balance and hobbies. It's nothing to do with being "lazy." Sorry but I have 2 young kids and 2 dogs, and probably spend more time "working" at the end of the day than someone who spends 14 hrs at their actual workplace... because I come home and have to cook and clean and look after babies and wake up through the night. But to an employer, I work "less." Is that lazy?? Or would I be justified in being annoyed if my employer asked why I can't/don't work as much as that asshole? >

Most performance appraisals are essentially a does not meet, meets, exceeds type of breakdown. So if these people are extra dedicated and churning out more productivity while maintaining quality, they are fair to set the bar for exceeds. It's the people who are unsatisfied that they get a smaller raise or bonus when they only get a "meets" that complain and honestly, I don't get the complaint. >

Imo, that "exceeds" should be reserved for people whose SKILLS and the work they accomplish in the allotted hours exceed expectations. Not people who simply exceed normal work hours.
Someone who does better work in 8 hours is better than someone who does the same level of work but just stays late. >

I agree with your last point. But if they are otherwise equal and one person is just willing to work more to accomplish more, that person exceeds. Doing an adequate job in your normal schedule is acceptable or meets. I would say someone who needs to stay late to perform the same amount of work that an average person gets done in a standard shift would not even be a meets. >

I'm not sure about this. Because, if you are going to promote based on willingness to stay late to accomplish more (when their actual skills or rate of work accomplishment is the same, and they're only getting more done because they're staying late) then you are essentially setting the expectation that they will stay late forever. So someone who stays late consistently one year will get promoted to a manager position and then may stop staying late and just do mediocre work, but now they're getting paid more than someone else who only stays a normal amount (the hours they are actually assigned and expected to work) and getting the job done fine. Both those people should actually be paid the same and be looked at the same for promotion.
Staying late should not be normalized in any sort of salaried position. If it's hourly, and someone wants to stay late to get paid overtime, great. They should be allowed to do that. But let's stop promoting people who stay late in a salaried position over people who don't. All that does is set an expectation that people SHOULD stay late, and we should not have job expectations that are outside of normal work hours. >

Promotion shouldn't be based on past productivity anyway unless you still do similar work. To go from worker to manager is a whole different skillet and the best worker does not always make the best manager >

I don't hate people who work 14 hour days.  I just shake my head, wonder how they do it, and feel glad that I don't have to do it. 
But as for your remark about those who don't work or don't work as many hours as  you think valuable "wasting their lives"....I've always believed that nobody has ever lain on their deathbed wishing they had worked more. >

You're right. Most people on their deathbeds, wish more than anything else, that they had spent more time with their loved ones, had a hobby,  taken 1 more vacation, had time for 1 more celebration, lived a bit more than they did, seen more than they allowed themselves to, etc.. not that they had worked more hours. Not that they had drained away all of their energy resources into work. Not that they had sacrificed watching their children grow up so they could world endless hours. And absolutely not that they had sacrificed the entirety of their adult lives towards making money for their employers. >

And even more people have laid there wishing they weren’t dying yet >

Facts. But not for more time spent working. >

I come from a family of people that pretty much always want to work. We've all worked either immediately after or during school, including my current younger brothers.
I'm not quite as fervent as them but I make an effort. I work around 8 hours a day of somewhat physical labour, and that's enough for me. My boss, on the other hand, comes in for 10 hour days every now and then on his own accord.
I'm fortunate enough to work somewhere with an amazing culture that doesn't expect anything beyond what we're told. If we want to work more, we work more. The heart of what I'm getting at is that both me and my boss have a livable wage. He has a bit more money than me each month because he works more, but I can rent and live in the city without an issue with my paycheck by working 50 hours a week.
Wanting to work more is fantastic.
Having to work more is what people are angry about.
My boss doesn't harp on me for not working 10 hours. He doesn't expect it, because it's not what we agreed upon. He doesn't say "Look at her, she works 10 hours a day too, why can't you?" Because he's not looking to exploit me. People don't hate hard workers, they hate businesses who use hard workers as examples to strive for, rather than letting everyone work their agreed upon hours and being thankful (via money) to those who work overtime.
Your viewpoint is reductive and toxic. Good on you for working however much you work, and I'm sure that the occasional person might hate hard workers out of jealousy, but claiming this kind of generalization of the labour force isn't fair nor is it productive. We're all in this shit together. >

I think the problem is that it isn't just about the boss directly saying it. The boss SHOULD be praising said worker (while checking in to make sure they know they are allowed to not work as much, but hey some people need the money) and if they're more productive giving them a raise based on that.
That means everyone else feels like they got shafted when they get lower raises comparatively and feel compared to said worker. I mean that line of thinking is prevalent enough on this thread in general.
Someone working harder and longer than everyone else will always make them feel like us vs them, regardless of what the boss does. Because even if the boss says "hey this is totally optional and for people who want more money", when raises come around it wouldn't be fair if the boss just didn't take into account this person's work ethic. >

It would absolutely be fair if the boss ignored this person's voluntary and unsolicited overtime when calculating raises. A good boss aks herself why this person is working so much. There are only 4 possible answers and only one of them is maybe worthy of a raise:


Trying to show how dedicated they are by working extra even though they hours aren't actually needed to meet goals


Earning extra by working unsolicited overtime


Can't get their work done in the regular time alotted even though others can


The company genuinely needs someone to work those hours and this is the only person who is willing or can


In the first 2, the person is having the company pay (via overtime where applicable) for them to meet their own personal goals even when those don't align with company goals. That isn't worthy of a raise. 
3 shows the person is actually not doing a good job and it's costing the company extra money to employ them, so no raise due. 
The 4th one could maybe warrant a raise, but if this person is available to work overtime, they are already getting paid for that effort. If others can't work overtime because they have a family, then not giving them as big of a raise is punishing them for having work/life balance. And this kind of bs is what has broken the world, leading people to believe that sacrificing themselves for a business is in their best interest. >

I think this depends on the nature of the person in question. First, Im sure the comparison thing is a concern for some people. But not all hard workers are terribly effective. They can create a lot of extra work for people by blasting their team with emails over the weekend and not always for stuff that actually needs to be communicated immediately or requires follow up. I’ve also had hard workers on my team that had no concept of efficiency or prioritization. One person in particular made a lot of noise about not getting promoted despite all of her long hours. But she didn’t actually produce more or better work. >

I work with someone who stays in late every day yet for some reason when I get in every morning nothing got done when that person was staying in late... "almost" as if it's just for show. >

No one cares you want to work more often than not. No one will care when you drop dead of a heart attack in your 40's because you were a 'hard worker'(I've heard of lots of stories of this happening). Hell even the business that owned your life doesn't care the second you died because now they have to replace such a hard worker. 
I've watched my dad work 70+ hours a week from his 20's to retirement, he is still in good health but that isn't the life I ever want. Every joint in his body is shot.
I'm happy at 40 hours a week. If you want to put in 80 hours go for it. Why would I care what someone else does with their life? >

Working long hours doesn’t necessarily equate to working hard. You can work 5 hours and grind the whole time or you can work for 14 hours and get distracted and do other things. The two are not synonymous >

This is very true. I work 12 hours shifts, and the amount of actual labor I do on any given day varies wildly. Some days I'm busy the entire time, and other days I'm struggling to find any menial task to make time go by. >

If someone doesn't want to have a life outside of work,  and work is their only relationship and hobby, that's fine. But those of us who demand a work/ home balance aren't lazy because we refuse to be run through the ringer like that. 

They don't want to look in the mirror and admit to themselves that they could do better and they are wasting their lives.

There's more to life that just work. We are out here enjoying the life we have, and it's not a waste. We aren't in survival mode. We're in living life mode, and there's a difference. 

They don't want people to realize they they add nothing of value at all.

Those of you who live to work instead of work to live have viewed those of us who demand a work/life balance this way forever. We know our worth. And just because we don't want to work ourselves into the ground doesn't mean we don't have value. Honestly,  it just sounds like you have a superiority complex because you have no life outside of work. And it's coming off as jealousy. If you don't have an identity outside of work,  that's a you problem. If there's nothing interesting about you outside of work,  that's a you problem. You can sit and work yourself into a forced early retirement if you want,  and not know who you are when you have nothing left when that happens, if that's what you want to do. The rest of us are out here actually living life outside of work because we have a work/life balance.

If they love work and that's their life, why do you have to scream about it?

The only time I have ever pitched a fit over this,  is when an employer decides that since this person can be worked into the ground,  and expected to live and breathe for the sole purpose of making someone else rich, then everyone else should too. And those same employers start stripping our time with our children and our off time away, or start rejecting vacation time as a result. You do you.   And I'm completely fine with that.  Right up until the very second it starts negatively impacting my quality of life. >

When I enter into an employment contract it's literally that, a contract. I give them 40 hours of my week and they give me money (and whatever benefits we agree upon). If they want more of my time they have to renegotiate and my price is higher.
If someone wants to work twice as much as I do for the same pay that is their choice but I'll be damned if that is the expectation. I know what I'm worth and expect to be appropriately compensated. While I'm on the clock I will work diligently and focused on my job. I am absolutely a "hard worker" but my life priorities are for other things than undercutting my employment contract by giving my company free/discounted labor.
To your point there are some people who do complain and have their expectations set way too high but my issue with the guy who works 14 hours a day isn't if they're a hard worker, it's when management expects me to accept the same terms of employment. >

Yeah that's the difference between hourly and salary with us hourly people it's like YEAH 14 HOUR DAYS WOOHOO >

they aren't afraid of being compared, they're afraid of being exploited
if your boss saw someone sprinting during a marathon she'd wonder why all her runners just jog >

**for the same salary
That's the terrible thing about people who work into the night. They do it for FREE for someone else's gain >

And when they record half the hours worked the next project starts with a quarter of the budget >

I kind of feel like you could flip the roles in this pretty easily.  Like i've met plenty of dudes who post stupid memes about how hard they work and how everyone who doesn't work 80 hours a week doesn't know work.
I find both to be coping with their own sense of value.  People burning themselves out on work, or avoiding home by being at work, are just more encouraged because obviously employers benefit from the attitude. >

I don't feel like there's that much hate for those people. More just dislike for being compared with them (being called lazy like your post) and being pressured to work like them. People act like they're superior for working that much. But Plenty of us have worked periods like that and know it leads to an unhealthy life devoid of enjoyment. There's no time to maintain your fitness and eat healthy let alone enjoy your hobbies, spend time with family, or other things that make life worth living. >

I scoff at (I don't hate) "hard workers" because years and years of working hard has taught me that it's a sucker's game.
You're more likely to be rewarded for being an ass-kisser, a friend of the boss and a company man than you will be as a hard worker. >

Our you'll get laid off or fired for whatever reason they choose. Companies foam at the mouth to cut labor costs any chance they get as long as upper management gets their bonuses and if the companies public they have a shareholders asses to kiss. It's why loyalty is not only outdated,  most people advise against it, including going above and beyond on hours. >

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Exactly this. I've personally experienced a new CEO come in and make out like he's everyone's friend. Laughing at your jokes, sharing a joke with you, telling you how valuable you are to the organization, and then BAM -- you come to work the next day and there sits half the executive team (minus the chicken-shit CEO, of course) watching as you and a few others clear out your desk and collect your layoff papers before being escorted off the property.
Fuck the business world. >

Yep! Then they brag about record high revenue. >

You got it. My advice to my younger self? Learn a damn trade. >

From my personal experience it's the "hard worker" who judge other people constantly >

Particularly when faced with someone who has learned how to work smart instead >

My concern is that my manager could say "Anon does it, why can't you" >

I dont hate them, I feel sorry for them and I am also annoyed when they try to push that lifestyle on me or act like its normal >

I don't give a F until they gloat about it... Major eye roll. Can't stand that workaholic humble brag.
Knew a woman who worked for free all the time, 10-14 hour days, even showed up at the office when she was off sometimes. She was surprised that I got promoted before her. Maybe cause working many hours doesn't mean you do good work? 
I actually liked her and as we became closer I saw she didn't have many friends or interests outside of work. It made me realise workaholics probably don't have something better than work pulling them away. Either they don't have friends/family/hobbies or they value work more than them. >

That part is dumb. It's only a good thing when you're hourly that way your overtime is a multiplier and you end up making 65k vs the 40k the guys who only do 40 make >

Laziness Does Not Exist >

did Elon Musk write this >

Kim Kardashian >

PEOPLE ARE DYING >

Comparison is the thief of joy. Truly. >

No. People don’t want their entire personality and existence to be a “hard worker.” They want a work life balance because they enjoy doing things outside of work. Personally I think people just find it weird to brag that you work so much and don’t have a life otherwise. >

Nobody cares that you work hard. But when you call us lazy or push that onto us, that's when we hate on you >

Voluntary 14 hour days sounds like they're wasting their lives away but they can do them. >

Hey, their lives, ain't gonna bother me >

I think there’s a difference between working hard and working smart. If you get your work done in 6 hours but it takes someone else 10 hours to do the same work, then are they really “working harder”? >

Even those that work 8 hours a day and get more work done get told to "slow down you are making me look bad"  But little do they know that management already knows how bad they are.  80% of the work gets done by 20% of the people. >

Or maybe because the "hard workers" are being elitist and acting like they are on some moral high horse, which nobody likes.
Also enjoying getting exploited by companies and bosses is a weird hill to die on. >

Totally agree when they are acting elitist. I think my point goes both ways though, that both sides have members which act elitist and speak out waaaaay too loudly. And everybody blasts the people speaking out on the "hard work" side but nobody is blasting the people speaking speaking out on the "anti" side. >

You don't see it, do you? >

This is some brainwashed bootlicker shit right here. The delusion runs deep in this one. >


because they are lazy themselves and terrified of being compared...  
14 hours a day and comes in on weekends.

Nah, man. I know the value of hard work, but I'm not going to let myself get exploited by my employer. Most office workers don't get paid overtime and eligible ones hardly get to work that that many hours. 14 hour days and weekends with no overtime is extremely exploitative and I won't let myself get compared to someone actively giving up their life for their career.
You best believe when I was getting overtime, I was working insane hours. Now? You'll only see me online off work hours if something is on fire. >

Hard worker or company man? They’re different >

"LOL working yourself to death and doing nothing else is a quality, really it is!" >

If I'm not paying them (or responsible for them), I don't care how 'hard' they works. Bootlickers on the other hand... >


because they don't want everyone to know how useless they actually are
They don't want people to realize they they add nothing of value at all. They don't want to look in the mirror and admit to themselves that they could do better and they are wasting their lives.

With sentiments like this, it's not hard to see where that hatred comes from. >

Sounds like OP is more resentful and he doesn’t even know it. >


Like, just live your life with work-life balance, have your priorities, and let other people live their lives.

This is ironic considering you're also calling people lazy. Have you thought about maybe the reason people get so outraged is because someone probably belittled them about their carefree lifestyle before? You cant say let people live their lives and proceed to criticize others living their lives. Its a two way street. I see more hate towards people who dont work as hard than people who are hard workers. >

From my experience the hard workers are the ones that judge people for not working enough in their eyes and for having hobbies. Its like they want you to be miserable with them i guess misery loves company 💀 >

You're waisting your life in a hamster wheel and calling it hard work. Your suppiriors like that attitude. Keep working boy. Keep telling people they need to work hard and go make money for your masters now. 
What a modern day slave mentality you have. But yeah, you're really doing something with your life. Keeping adding "value" for already rich men. You're one of the well payed slaves that thinks since you're pretty happy everyone should be happy. >


waisting 

lol >

Not working 14 hours a day is not wasting your life. If anything, working 14 hours a day is wasting your life. >

I pity people who work 14 hours a day. If you can't be successful in a solid 8, you are doing something wrong >

sometimes many of us work part of a season .I work those 16-18 hour days two months of the year because 8 hours 52 weeks of the year is , to my thinking, far worse . >

So you're the opposite - you accomplish in 2 months what the rest of us take 12 to earn, but that's clearly not the hustle that OP was talking about >

It's because it sets a standard. If your coworker spends 14 hours a day at the office and works weekends then pretty soon your boss is going to be asking why you're not doing it as well. And even if you are that hustle employee, eventually someone will come along and out-hustle you and then YOU'LL be the one having to work even harder to avoid getting fired. One day you'll get old and slow down, and then some young kid will come along and try to wow the boss by showing off how fast and hard they can work, and suddenly your raises get smaller or go away despite you still giving maximum effort. It's a race to the bottom, and eventually everyone winds up there anyway. >

This is the actual answer. 
But the fact is, it's a competition and the guy who works hardest and longest will be the guy who more often that not gets ahead. This is not new.  Those who choose not to be that guy are going to lose out to that guy. >

I admire hard workers actually, I never could live that lifestyle without ending up with killing myself.
But I think you're projecting when you assume the motivations of the people who criticize that lifestyle, and that's only partially true. Also going to irk someone the wrong way. >


There is so much hate on the person who works 14 hours a day and comes in on weekends.

It's mostly this reason why they are hated. The more people do this then the higher the expectations from management.
It starts slowly. Because this hard worker works over an hour later than everyone else, meetings start getting held that run into that time delaying other workers. Then meetings start being scheduled FROM the time most people usually leave. Emails marked as urgent start being sent on weekends or to people on annual leave with the expectation that "well workers A and B do it so other workers can as well".
And then we move into trying to get a payrise or promotion. You are fighting these people for the slightest raise. If the company's max payrise is 5% then only those working the 14 hour days voluntarily will get them as they will be the standard that the company wants people to follow.
With automation and simplification of jobs, we should be working less not more. These people are the ones stopping progress in working conditions because if just a few people do it in the biggest companies then everyone is expected to follow >

I don’t mind people doing that. If that’s what makes them happy all the power to them. 
The problem I have is when someone HAS to work crazy hours like that in order to survive. No one should work themselves to the bone to barely scrape by. >

Who hates them? If anything, we should hate the people in power who force them to do this to provide for their families. Its all inflation scam: “work lots of hours and make lots of money!...there, they worked hard for us, now lets just raise the price of everything so their money is worthless” >

I don’t hate I just find it funny, if you’re a salaried worker the more work you do the less you’re being paid per hour. You’re valuing your time lower you do you I just find it silly you’re telling your employer your time isn’t valuable >

So I don’t hate them but I don’t understand it. As a carer I worked some six hour and twelve hour shifts. I don’t mind the twelve hour shifts, but I couldn’t do those more often. 
Now I’m wanting to train in another field that would pay better and whilst I’d work a few more hours, I wouldn’t be working 12 hours. I want to be there for my child as they are growing up. It’s part of the reason I dropped out of teacher training. I saw how much work you have to do out of hours and I just want time to enjoy life, and enjoy watching my kid grow up. 
Now I know not everyone wants kids, and if they want to pour their time into their job then that’s fine. I just want to do stuff I enjoy and be there for my kid. >

Not wanting to have to do 14-hour shifts and give up what little free time you have for a job that doesn’t give two craps about you is factually not relevant to laziness.  This is an unhinged take. >

As long as the idiots like it, they can work that long.  I just don't want that expectation.  I work 8 hr days, 40 hrs a week.  That is what I'm paid for.  I get no overtime.  I'm not going to work longer, unless it's an emergency situation, and then I expect comp time. >

Doing more than the minimum amount of work is my definition of failing.
The only thing hard work is gonna get you is more work. >

if youre happy with your life, feel fulfilled and that youre contributing something with what you do, i have great respect.
if youre not happy, but for whatever reason are in need of money rn and want to power through a period of hard work until youve reached your goal and can go easier again, i have just as much respect.
if youre happy, but expect others to contribute the same amount of time to work as you do, regardless of peoples different priorities, situations, and options of job opportunities, im not gonna "hate on you", but you are ignorant.
for example thriving in a field where every day has new challenges, cant be compared to someone for example being limited to simple warehouse work (taking my own life as an example here, i cant rly speak well so i work where thats not a required skill).
if youre Not happy, but hanging onto habit because of a sense of duty or financial security, But could actually be happier if you managed your work-life balance differently. and yet want the same for everyone. Im also not going to "hate on you" but think that its you making a wrong decision for yourself and not everyone around you. >

Hard workers are workaholics who still don't get what their worth.
Smart workers use their leverage to get paid more to work less. >

Wrong. The major problem is tout this shitty hustle culture as something to be followed by people AND ADOPTED BY COMPANIES.
If you like to waste your life working 14 hours a day, it's none of my business UNLESS you take decisions for the company I work. >

This is a solid take but I happily disagree. Many times, hard workers burn themselves out and then compare themselves to those who do not "work as hard."
And in reality, it's just that the people not "working as hard" are more focused on other things in life.
I painfully have to admit I know this because this was me: I remember when I first started working I was super inconsiderate -- I wanted to grind my career and I expected more from others who were getting promoted for what I felt they were doing less. In reality, they not only were doing a lot of things behind the scenes, but they also were managing kids and a lot of other personal things in their life. It was a huge wake up call for me. >

People don't hate hard workers.  They hate the comparison.  If he wants to come to come in 14 hours a day and work the weekends: that's fine.  What is not fine and what people take an issue with is management telling them they should also work 14 hours a day and the weekends. >

Nobody hates on hard workers for working hard , but people hate hard workers that expect others to work as hard as them when they are going above and beyond and then they look down on those that dont as If they are beneath them >

I respekt hard workes if they either love their job or get paid well. Otherwise they are just glorified slaves in my eyes. But they can do what ever I guess. >

The reason I dislike these “hard workers” is because they almost always seem to view themselves as better. My job is what I do to be able to do the things I enjoy. And I enjoy reading and learning about different things. Those things are definitely not lazy. 
There’s nothing wrong with working 8 hours a day and watching a movie or playing video games. But the capitalist propaganda convinces people that, unless you work 16 hours a day, you’re lazy. Your value is in what you provide society. 
I’d put money down that the vast majority of people that work 14 hours a day their entire lives are much more fucked up than those who don’t. They’re unhappy, have awful relationships, have some emotional issues, on and on. Compared to the person that works 8 hours, goes out with friends and tends a garden > >

And the rest of us think you look an idiot giving up your actual life and working for someone else like that. >

This isn't an unpopular opinion, its just a baseless opinion. You read a comment on the internet, came up with a fictional person in your head who wrote it, then went on to describe exactly how this fictional person thinks and why you disagree with them.
There are plenty of people who work 40 hours a week and not a second more but are still more productive then people who insist on working 60-80 hours just to feel like they're really hustling >

if you're hourly, fuckin rip it. work your 14 hour days. work your weekends. get that sweet sweet OT.
If you own the business, fine, the harder you work, the better your business will be. the more hours you work, the fewer employees you need, so save some money and grind.
if you're salary, get a fuckin hobby and let your boss hire a second employee. stop working a second job for free because you think it'll get you a promotion down the line. spoiler:>!it won't.!< >

There's a bigger picture reason why people complain. It does actually affect everyone else as it raises general expectations in the workplace. >

It's not because they are working hard. It's because they are willingly being exploited.
The days of hard work = success are long gone. All hard work does is benefit your employer while you lose your time for doing so. >

No we hate on you because you go above and beyond, often in minimum wage jobs, and act like your the CFO of the company >

You say let people live their lives and then proceed to call a group of people lazy useless and of no value to society. You really need to take your own advice. You don't like what they have to say. Ignore them and live your life. >

Because they're the ones that are thought of as hard workers.  They're the ones that get the promotions and raises.  They're the ones that management expects everyone else to mirror.  That making work your life is the standard that management and business wants.
No thought is given the rest who want to put in their 8 hours and then go home to family, friends and hobbies.  We're seen as lazy workers.  Not hard workers.  Not worth giving raises or promotions to. >

I don't hate them, I need hard-working employees to make my job easier. The harder they work, the less I have to do. >

Got to make money somehow. Working hard is the only way for most people. >

Nobody hates that dude because he works 12 hour days. They hate him because he won’t shut up about it and let the rest of the floor do their work in peace. >

People dislike those so-called ‘hard workers’ because they cause unrealistic expectations from employers. >

If hard workers are kind and humble about it, then they are really likeable. >

Just don’t brag about it, pfft I worked x amount of hours more than you, so you should feel bad/ impressed. >

This is some wild projection. >

The problem with it is that it sets an unreasonable precedent and makes others more susceptible to exploitation. >

This sounds like you. >

I'm a person who works 12 hour days, however I also realize that a 12 hour shift isn't for everyone. That shit takes a lot of indurance, but I do actually end up getting more time off and more vacation time as a payoff. >

When someone tell me that they work 14 hours a day I don't feel hate or rage, I feel pity (unless they love their job or something). I just couldn't see myself seeing my life pass away with no time to do the things I love.
I prefer to work 30h with a salary of 2000 than 50 with a salary of 5000. My time is the most valuable thing ever, and I don't want to waste it.
Of course this is me, everyone has it's own priorities >

People don't hate on "hard workers who have 14 hour day and comes in on weekends". What people don't appreciate is this grind culture being stuffed in their faces where it is basically implied that if your life is not solely focused on your job and making money, then you are automatically a failure. It is also implied that if you don't give a 100 percent into your job then you automatically will be poor. 
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Here's the thing though. People ARE focused on their careers. People ARE giving 100 percent at their jobs. People ARE working 14 hour days. However, people are people, and more often than not, they are responsible for others. Doctors appointments, extracurricular activities, cooking, cleaning etc etc. People do all these things in addition to grinding at work, and yet you have these "influencers" and narrow minded people such as yourself who come and tell them that they are still not doing enough. That's what people hate, not "hard workers".
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People look in the mirror every single day and know that they are doing the very best that they can, yet the internet screams at them that they can be doing more. Who do you think understands their circumstances better? Influencers on the internet or the people themselves? >

Sometimes people who are hard workers are also just bad at what they're working on lol I've had plenty of jobs where people have to put themselves in a position to "work hard" because they are slow at their tasks. Who works harder? Someone who completes 10 identical tasks in 10 hours or someone who completes the same 10 identical tasks in 14 hours? Hard work is not always quality work and quality work isn't always hard work. 
What's the "harder work"? Being an ER doctor for 8 hours, construction for 10 hours or data entry for 12 hours? 
It depends. And that's okay. Of course people are sometimes afraid of being compared and that's okay. People shouldn't always be compared. >

Ha, I bust my ass every day at work8 hours a day,  40 hours a week. Respectfully, take your overtime and shove it up your ... >

nobody hates people who work a ton if they have to or if they sincerely enjoy it... they hate the people who promote working 70 hours a day as a mind set to success. >

Personally I don’t hate on laborers or workaholics.  If that’s your thing the that’s your thing.
It’s more that I feel sorry for them. >

I dont care that you do it, I care that management taps me on the shoulder asking why I wont do the same. The anger might be misdirected, but whatevs I'm going to sprinkle that shit around evenly. 
And to add, me doing the job I was paid to do is not lazy. Me not wanting to work 60+ hours a week is not lazy, especially considering I have my own work do to at home (ie raising the child the job was aware that I had BEFORE they fucking hired me). >

I don't hate the hard workers, I hate the system that indoctrinated them into thinking they need to work that much in order to get anywhere in life. >

because there’s a difference between doing that work for a company and doing that work in a personal context. When you do hours of unpaid work at a company it creates an expectation of others to do the same, which isn’t fair or healthy.  Keep the extra hours to work your doing for yourself not work your doing for others. 
It’s generally not about laziness but work environment. >

Working yourself ragged with 14hr days  just so some rich executives can get even richer is absolutely ridiculous. >

They are the ones that fill capitalists pockets and make them think that exploiting people is ok. „Hard workers“ are the equivalent to ass Kisser in the Middle Ages that did everything that the majesty wanted. They hinder progress. This is not a unpopular opinion but a completely wrong way to look at it >

Hard-workers for who? >

I do 10 hours a day but most of that is my choice. I come in a couple hours early because it's quiet, the phones aren't ringing nobody's coming to ask me for anything. I use that time to take my time and get ready for when we open for business and I won't have time to do the other small tasks that build up throughout the day. That just makes rest of my work day so much easier. >

I agree that everyone has the right to be the person they are. You want to work 12-14 hour shifts and come in on weekends? Do it!!! My only problem is when management starts expecting everyone to do this and if you don’t you’re considered lazy. I’m usually the one who stays late at work, but some of my coworkers have told me that they’ve been talked to about not leaving until the job is done. We’re in an ER. The job is literally never done. It’s neither workers’ fault. Is management getting greedy >

I have no problems with those who want to grind their job. But almost every job I’ve had the people who grind are always bugging me on why I don’t work more hours. It just gets annoying. Cool you wanna do nothing but work and make money, that’s fine. But I like to have a work life balance and actually see my house. >

I'm a hard worker but I don't work OT or come in on weekends. 
I'm salary, I'm only gonna work my agreed upon hours >

Nah, it’s not because we are lazy. If anything, it is the “hard workers” that hate on most people, because they expect everyone else to work to their crazy, slave-like mentality. Recently, I had a coworker (in fact, they are a supervisor of a different department) expect their team to work 10+ hours a day plus weekends and expected ME to follow their schedule despite the fact that I work in a different department. They judged my work ethics by saying my “heart is not in it” and that HR should of spoken to them when I got hired to discuss my hours. That I should be working from 6am-4:30pm. That by working 8 hours means that I’m doing the “bare minimum” and I don’t work hard enough.
Fuck that noise. I have a fucking life. >

If they wanna stay longer than they can. But if they start to try and make you do the same then they can  fuck off >

My beef comes when those hard workers are being abused by not being fairly compensated for the extra work OR the office expects EVERYONE to be like that. I tell coworkers all the time: this isn't a charity, this is a business. Work hard, but never do it for free. That's the deal, I provide labor, they provide money/benefits. >

Who is hating on hard workers 😭 what world do you live in lol >

it's because we feel bad for you. it appears to us that all the things we value in life are things that you've been taught/taught yourself to ignore. 
i've been working on getting better at this, and getting better at accepting that other people value different things than i do, but back when i was more vocally antiwork it was because i thought the life of someone who chose work over happiness was unbearably tragic. in retrospect, this was more a reflection of my inability to find joy in work at that time than anything else. >

Lol you have to be 13 years old. >

Lol this will truly be unpopular on Reddit. You are absolutely correct though. Nothing wrong with it, if that's what you enjoy doing. Good luck defending your opinion though, Redditors love and will defend being lazy all day. >

Most of the haters I see think that hard work = better pay but then think “well I work hard and I get shit wages”. They don’t seem to understand that working hard isn’t the only thing that matters in a lot of cases. >

I don’t hate hard workers I hate people who work for free or cheap. >

I don't hate all the "hard workers", but more than a few of them are extremely full of themselves and overly proud of how much they work. Exploitation is exploitation whether you're enjoying working the hours or not. >

I don't hate on the fact some people WANT to work 80-100 hours a week, I hate that some people NEED to work 80-100 hours a week >

You're not gonna make any more money or get anywhere faster doing that, the thing is any savvy manager will keep you in a worker position and not help you get anywhere near the management track because you've made yourself too valuable too much of an asset to lose because it will tank performance of the company or of the department meanwhile you'll burn yourself to the ground never having a life or interests outside of work and sacrificing any kind of home life to go nowhere fast. Also with that attitude they'd not put you incharge of people because they won't do this to meet your expectations and youd probably create a retention problem.
It's not hard work it's overwork, it's not taking on new and challenging problems at their value it's burning all of your time and not a single person apart from your direct colleagues would stop you doing it spending a lot of time on a task doesn't mean it was done right or done well. You can love work and the work you do but this isn't what that looks like loving work is wanting to take on new things your company hasn't done before and caring about what you are doing not 14 hour days and coming in on weekends plain and simple.
Tl;dr: 
Time spent =/= hard/good/quality/useful/valuable work
Time spent =/= to your benefit or gain
Time spent =/= loving the work you do >

The hate is because a lot of them expect everyone else to do the same. They shame people for waking up after 9am and spending time they "could be working" on hobbies. These specific people think that people who want a work life balance and to not be a slave to a company couldn't possibly be getting anything done/be as productive, all while they themselves are miserable and want everyone to be as well. Not every "hard worker" is like this , but it's this type of behavior is what draws the hate. We don't like people who are miserable slaves to a company glorifying it. >

I think someone hurt you and your response is to generalize the entire workforce.  Work to live not live to work.  I’m salaried at a set rate based on a 40 hour work week, so I have some longer weeks and some shorter.  But the boundary is always set.  I’ve worked a few construction jobs where I’m working 50+ hours a week and not getting compensated for it.  To each their own though, you wanna work more and stand out and make more money, go for it.  But don’t expect me to do the same or set an unrealistic precedent because everyone has their own boundaries, a lot of the time after being used and abused by an employer >

I do hate hard work, for me it just makes no sense, what I do is smart work, I have never in my life met a hard worker that has acchieved more than me or any other smart worker, and the fact that they are the majority is what I don't like, all companies are expecting you to work hard instead of working smart.
I'm absolutly not denying I am lazy, but for me that only means i'm always going to find a more efficient way to do something than just hard work >

I remember a nurse once telling me "Noone lies on their deathbed wishing they'd worked more." >

Odd for you to question why people who work more than 40 hours get hate...by labeling people who question them as "adding little value" or "wasting their lives".
There's a good opinion I'm here somewhere but right now it sounds like a tantrum. >

I’ll share this story:
I was working 8-10 hour days at my first job out of college.  Left work for happy hour, socialized, made friends.
The trainee who I started with put in 14 hour days every day.  There before me and there after me.  
We had the same job. I was able to do my job well.  Her work was significantly more in-depth and almost like a novel whenever she handed in reports.
I moved through the ranks at the company and ended up in Director level roles at a young age.
She struggled in multiple roles.  She always carried an ill will for me because she thought I was moving ahead due to being a guy and a schmoozer.
I sat down with her along the way and and had a heart to heart and said “the reason I was promoted, was that I never looked stressed and I could complete my work in an 8 hour day.  How can the company promote a trainee who needs 14 hours to do their job?  What are you going to do when the workload is more stressful and cumbersome?  Also, our Executives don’t have time to read dissertations.  This isn’t a college thesis.  It should take 2 sentences to get your point across.  If you hand me a book, I’m looking at it and thinking that you don’t understand the material or how to summarize.”
This woman was also valedictorian in her high school.  It was my first lesson (albeit later in life) that formal education is misaligned and that being successful in school doesn’t mean a whole lot in the working world.  Give me the kids that work a job after school and play sports and get decent grades over the valedictorian putting 4 hours a night into studies >

I work to live. I don't live to work. If you want to work extra just to say you did and feel that you're superior to people who actually know their value, more power to you. >

You do what every you want but calling someone lazy because they don’t work 14-hour days is just sad. People have lives outside of work. Get a grip. >

No one hates on hard workers. We hate on bootlickers who make their jobs their entire personality and act as if not wanting to be exploited by your boss is some kind of moral failure. >

Executives love this guy. >

Is it just me, or is it nearly every "unpopular opinion" on this sub isn't just people giving an opinion it's people basically gatekeeping their opinion. Like it's not just "I enjoy working 14 hour days" nope we had call anyone who doesn't enjoy it lazy and insecure. Almost every post I see on here anymore is just "you are a stupid idiot if you don't like what I like"
Is it just me? >

It comes off a bit silly when the person is flaunting their schedule as something others should aspire to, particularly when that 70 hour week is barely getting them to six-digits. Great, but I’m more impressed by the orthodontist barely working 40 hours a week for 300k. Smarter not harder. >

Believe it or not, it's just another way for business owners to pit workers against each other. I have no issue with your work ethic, I see it as you being exploited, but as long as you're into that kind of thing, go for it. >

What I hate is people who brag about working 60+ hours a week. You aren't working hard, youre working yourself to the bone. >

Most people don't hate hard work, quite the contrary in my experience. What we hate is people who brag about working 60+ hours a week. You aren't working hard, youre working yourself to the bone. >

The problem is the term "lazy" is subjective and only defined by comparison. >

No one hates them. We hate being compared to them because we do our jobs. We're not lazy. We just realize work isnt our entire lives. You wanna work 14 hours a day and make work your life? Cool. But my life isnt that. I do what im hired and paid for. You want me to work harder and do more? Pay me more because theyre overachieving. >

I think OP is confusing long hours with hard work.
They aren't always related. >

No we do it because they say stupid shit like this. >

You have a different definition of value >

Others people business is just that. I don't give a fuck if they want to waste their life on a corporation that will replace them if they get hurt or sick (most of the time because of the job) in a heartbeat and won't even send a condolence card. I worked at Wally and I saw people have heart attacks and cancer being shown no compassion after putting in 30 years plus, and being fired as soon as medical leave ran out. They gave you their life's.work to make Wally rich, but were shown no compassion.
People working on their own business I can definitely respect the time and energy put in.
I love my kid too much to waste his life to make someone else rich. He won't care that mommy made an extra $200 but he had to sit with grandma or daycare. He will remember the time we spent making memories and bonding and us teaching him stuff. >

I don't hate them, I think they're pathetic and have no life or hobbies. >

I dont hate them, I just feel bad for them because they don't even realize they're being exploited >

14 hour days aren't sustainable. A high turn over because show off Todd worked himself into a mental breakdown adversely impacts the rest of the team. 
And honestly, the last 5 hours of work you complete will probably need to be corrected the next day because you were tired. >

the problem is when someone is a super “hard worker” for no reason and then develops a martyr complex over it. I was an assistant manager at a restaurant working 60-70 hours a week and my boss (the GM) would work legit 90 I shit you not. We were salaried so all those extra hours didn’t mean shit but god forbid I ever complained about my hours he would be the first to say “what are you complaining about.” He would be there regularly when he didn’t have to be there and just sit there doing nothing me and the other assistant manager would regular scream at him to go home but he had this major phobia that the whole place would fall apart without him. I think he probably spent 20 waking hours a week away from the place and didn’t have much of a life outside of it (obviously). >

This isn’t unpopular, it’s fucking stupid. Almost everyone can’t or won’t work 14 days a day. If you can and want to, whatever, but the people who don’t aren’t fucking lazy. They are the normal ones. You are an obsessed bootlicker. >

The reality is most people hate "hard workers" because they are probably dumber than most, needing more time to do simple tasks and routine work and plan poorly on their time usage, while also not respecting work boundaries and personal time. 
If you're the person sending an email on a Saturday or Sunday, that's your own fault for not getting around to it during normal work time, and it makes you an asshole who doesn't respect other people's work/life separation.  
Just because you don't respect yourself, doesn't mean you shouldn't respect others either.  That's the start of why people don't like "hard" workers. 
Work smarter, not harder.  Tell jobs that expect that bullshit to fuck off, you'll never get to 50 and say you wish you'd worked more instead of less. >

I don't have any problem with how many hours anyone works or doesn't work. But when those who work those 12-14 hour days start thinking they are better people because they do, that where I have an issue. And I've heard it many times. People bragging about the amount of hours they work. As though anyone who works less is less of a person. You do you. But keep it to yourself too. Personally I'll work as little as possible and be happy doing it. (or not doing it lol) >

I worked my ass off and got no raise and no promotion. Then I got feedback from my new manager who said that I was to eager and wanting to go off immediately to do something work related. He taught that was stupid and it shows that I’m not mature enough to get a promotion. 
So I did what he said, and to be honest I did 60% less work then before. And after a half year he said he saw the growth and change in my performance. I got my promotion and 10% salary raise. 
Now tell ms who is stupid here? >

People are always happy to know how much I make or earn per month, not the ways I had to go to get there. >


They don't want people to realize they they add nothing of value at all

As a person and not a piece of equipment, I don't see the need to quantify my worth in terms of dollars and hours going to somebody else. If that's how you determine value then I'm afraid you may need to take a step back and consider what the purpose of life and consciousness may be. Self-awareness isn't something we come equipped with, it may take years to acquire or it may never happen at all. Sadly, philosophy is a topic that's almost completely skipped in our education system but it's desperately needed. People need to understand that they're not just drones with no agency, they have feelings and experiences beyond employment and monetary gain that are essential to recognize to enjoy a full and meaningful life.
But, if you're happy pulling an intellectual plow for your employer your whole life, then you do you. >

Hard workers are chumps who break their back so others make money. I bust my ass for my own company, and I don't expect my employees to treat my company like it's theirs. We're not a family. We have an agreement: my money for you labor or time. I don't want them working hard to impress me. Just do what I pay you for, no more. >

Who the fuck hates on hard workers >

Who the fuck works 14 hour days because they want to??? No one wants to do that. I work 12-13 hour days because I need more money than 8/day will provide >

The problem isn’t employees who choose to work 14 hour days and on weekends. The problem is employers who expect and encourage this behavior. >

I hate when hard workers think they are superior.
Construction workers are like this, yeah nice you're trading your health for money. Yeah you're making good money but rhe time you can retire your body is destroyed. >

Or conversely, people who work hard are compensating for having nothing else of value in their life and then judge people who don’t work more than they have to as a way to make them feel superior to people who stick to their 40 hour work weeks >

I am only angry at “hard workers” when their behavior allows a company to mistreat their employees. For example we have been a skeleton crew for years at this point running everyone (even the lazy) ragged but the company refuses to hire more people because the “hard workers” (also known as money grubbers) continue to pick up the slack. These people are not working hard, they are just giving up their time for overtime pay. I get that they want the money, but they are just making it possible for the company to get worse and worse in the process. Keep in mind, when we were properly staffed there was still plenty of overtime available. NOW the company just forces the people who don’t need the money to work “required overtime” whenever we get extra extra busy and there are no people to cover it. >

The problem isn't personal comparison. It's when your boss expects you to work 14h a day plus weekends because the other guy does. >

Most people hate hard workers because they set an unrealistic standard of work/life balance. Good for them they want to put in 30 extra hours a week of OT and work nights and weekends. Thats why they’re divorced and I’m not. >

Well this is just the truth and not too unpopular I don't think. 
Coworkers that complain are usually only complaining because they don't want to be expected to work harder