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This isn't new. The United States does not negotiate with terrorists, as a policy.
Good. The Republicans are willing to ruin our economy and not pay the bills for money already spent. Negotiating with blackmailers is not a good precedent to set. >

Unfortunately the wealthy owned media will pin the economy not recovering on Biden. Many voters automatically blame the president for everything bad. 
In 2023 there will be local and state elections. I encourage you all to vote out right wingers and Republicans to help pave the way for 2024. >


economy not recovering

Both GDP and employment are up. Gas prices are down. My stock portfolio is up about 5% year over year. What is this "not recovering" you're talking about? >

Yes but if the GOP succeed in using the debt ceiling to tank the economy it will be blamed on Biden. >

This isn't our first rodeo. The Republican's have attempted this ploy a number of times in the past and every time it's come back to bite them in the ass. 
Sure, the MAGA crowd are completely disconnected from reality and will believe whatever they're told but the rest of the electorate will know exactly who is causing the problem. >

They will know now but in 2024 assuming the damage they have done to the economy is still having a negative affects they will blame Biden. The GOP will not lose much if anything in 2023 as off year elections are low turnout with more steadfast Republican voters than others. >

Have you considered a job as a Republican strategist?
That was the thinking every time Republican's held the budget hostage to the debt ceiling and every time they payed dearly for it. The only reason I'm hoping they don't do it is that it would inflict significant hardship on vulnerable Americans but if they want to touch the hot stove again... >

The GOP raise the deficit every time they are in office democrat historically lower the deficit yet the debt caused by that is blamed on the democrats. The GOP have an efficient message amplifying propaganda machine. The GOP has control of the supreme court and have ended democracy in more and more local and state and congressional races. They do not win by swaying voters they win by firing up there base to get out and vote. The message that democrats are bad at the economy has been hammered home since Nixon. >

No reason to negotiate, Congress wrote the checks, now they have to pay for it. >

Biden took an oath to uphold the constitution.
The constitution says the debts of the US shall not be questioned.
If the republicans want to start ignoring parts of the constitution, remind people that it's the same document that says in the 2a - "Shall not be infringed"
Biden is literally constitutionally bound not to discuss even potentially not paying the debts of the US. >

Yeah republicans don’t give a fuck about the constitution lol they’re 100% self serving >

its funny looking at the comments in all the conservative safe spaces regarding the debt ceiling and .. they dont seem to really understand it. like any of the basics. they dont seem to know exactly what it is, what the history of it is, what it actually does, etc. 
for how much they profess to be the 'smarter' political ideology, they sure seem to be missing a lot of the basics. >

This particular dynamic is not unique to the debt ceiling. >

its almost like they have absolutely no fucking clue about anything but demand to be seen as respected