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If nukes start flying everybody will pay the price , i dont think this is a valid argument
Lithuania has some really good reasoning for that too. Mainly it's next to Russia's exclave and Belarus. >

Good point. They are looking out for the future with no Putin, although the next leader may not be any less of a threat. >


although the next leader may not be any less of a threat.

This is very important to remember
In the event that the current Russian government falls and sees some sort of return to democracy, freedom, and respect for neighbors, there will be a desire among some in the west to embrace this, to trust Russia, to expand trade with them and be friendly. But this already happened before and then Russia went back to the bad old days. And it can happen again. If Russia sees a change in leadership and a turn inward, the west mustn't get overly trusting - instead it should keep decoupling from the Russian economy, expanding NATO up to Russian borders as much as possible, and investing not in rebuilding Russia but in boosting the neighbors bordering Russia. If Russia still tolerates it, then a slow cautious thaw in relations can occur, and if Russia seethes with rage and quickly goes back to the bad old days again in response, well, the west will be more ready and more of Russia's neighbors will be defended by the NATO nuclear MADman umbrella >

There isn't any problem opening trade when they are cooperating and friendly to the rest of the world.  If we weren't doing any trade with anyone that has tried to take over the world in the past, there would be a lot of countries that no one would do business with now.  England and the US would be two of the primaries. >

The entire international community should tell any aggressor that they cannot annex or take territory from anyone else. If they want more land, possibly they could buy it or negotiate with the sovereign state from which it would come. Military annexation and commandeering of neighboring territory should be absolutely forbidden and the aggressor should be cut off at the shoulder. There is no way that Putin should be allowed to take one square inch of Ukraine, including Crimea. The problem was he was let to get away with it then and now he thought he could do it again.  Any neighboring state of his has every reason to be worried that they could be next. Again, the international community must put a stop to annexation of territory...  Full stop. >

Sadly that kind of thing relies on a UN security council to work, but it is by design useless because two of the three big permanent members in China and Russia are expansionist dictatorships, and the UN also by design cannot simply kick them out or ignore them to craft a response to any actions they make. They've essentially defacto moved the responsibility for policing world peace to NATO... >

As an American, this should be voted on by the people who are paying for it. Enough with Eastern European demands. >

it’s easy for countries without nukes to suggest nuclear powers should go to war