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Fingers crossed that having a manual transmission might spare me from theft. Please Lordt, please. >

Run a basic toggle switch to the fuel pump relay. >

This guy killswitches. >

I have a different model but it has a stickshift that is super touchy. No one will get it. Even have an airtag in there. >

Won’t the AirTag send an alert to the robbers that an AirTag is following them? >

If they have an iPhone, sure. But good luck finding that tiny AirTag in this entire car because it’s not anywhere standard you’d think to look. >

It’s in the cup holder isn’t it? >

Ah dang, you found it. >

Where's your car, dude? >


he Highway Loss Data Institute released insurance claims data last September that confirmed what various social media accounts had been saying: Some 2015 through 2019 Hyundai and Kia models are roughly twice as likely to be stolen as other vehicles of similar age, because many of them lack some of the basic auto theft prevention technology included in most other vehicles in those years, according to the HLDI.

Sounds like a class action lawsuit waiting to happen >

Suing for early depreciation already has solid case law, and their depreciation just became 100% (in these cities). >

I'd imagine more than just those cities, right? Anyone reading these reports will probably avoid buying at least those models outright until they know it's fixed. Some people might even avoid Kia/Hyundai overall for a bit as well, considering the trust lost with the company and customers now.  Even if the product itself is only having issues locally/in some areas, people might still avoid it out of habit. Especially an investment like this that usually is a multi-year investment, and the risk of straight up losing it or it being totaled overnight. >

Dis I miss something or did they just refuse to specify which ones? >

Most Hyundai and Kia models with keyed ignition switches sold over the last few years can be stolen with a USB cable plugged into a charging port. A lot of cars. >

Just want to clarify... The USB does not go in the a charging port. It just so happens that the tab connected to the ignition switch is shaped in a manner where a USB fits over it perfectly and just acts like the key. Anything that will give you enough leverage to turn the ignition will work, it just that people walking around with USB cables aren't suspicious. >

had a 92 ford taurus i could start with a flathead screwdriver.  was insurable >

My first car! It was a cherry red convertible too. Called it my little roller skate. I'm also 6'3". Yeah, my parents hated me. >

What mean parents, they bought you a car! >

Pretty sure they were trying to kill me, though. It was a bolt or two shy of the junk heap. >

I work in the IT side of insurance, but have been a CA licensed insurance broker for 15 years. My wife works in claims for a large broker, and these companies are sending non renewal at policy end to customers with these cars.
This is kinda BS....these companies should have just raised the rates, instead of non-renewing. At least these customers could make a decision on whether to pay, or shop for another policy. >

I worked for a company that would trick insured customers into reporting widely inaccurate yearly mileage use on their vehicles. We targeted asians and elderly people as they were the easiest to trick. We were contracted for ALL the major auto companies, except Progressive. >

like high mileage or lower mileage estimates? >

We would call the insured and innocently say that we were reviewing their policy and had a few questions. Warm them up with the easy ones and then say " My calculations are showing an estimated yearly mileage of 40,000 miles, ok? 
All I needed was an ok or yes and their rate just doubled or quadrupled. The newer the car, the higher my "calculation", which was done automatically for me.  I tested it some and found it was targeting newer models. 
Often a customer would say "that's outrageous, it's brand new I've only put 12 miles on it."
And I was required to say "I'm sorry sir, but I'm showing a projected yearly mileage of 25,000" 
I had to fight with the customer, but eventually relent to any estimate they provided me. 
Asians couldn't speak English and were terrified that their auto insurance company called them, (we were a contracted third party, contracted by a third party for ALL the top auto insurance companies EXCEPT PROGRESSIVE. AND I MEAN ALL. I HAVE PROGRESSIVE.
ELDERLY PEOPLE WERE JUST HAPPY TO TALK TO SOMEONE ON THEIR LANDLINE AND WOULD AGREE TO ANYTHING. ESTIMATE YEARLY MILEAGE? 100,000 PLUS I SWEAR.
Most interesting interaction, a man who owned 3 Teslas in 2009. He had the newest model that goes 0-60 under 3 seconds. The guy was 93 years old. Literally thousands of these calls I did, and this guy was the most interesting, smartest and he was INVESTED IN ME. I explained the calculator to him ahead of my estimate and he was super nice, he declined it and I gave him the lowest mileage I could. He also owned some very high end corvettes. He talked about "this policy" and " his policy" as if he owned a lot more cars. >

Wow you're kinda disgusting... >

Hey I'm just being brutally honest here. Every other person at my job would have aggressively pushed the Tesla guy into accepting higher mileage, most likely through lying and intimidating him. >

Before freaking out over the headline, read below, from the first 3 paragraphs of the article.

Progressive and State Farm, two of America’s largest auto insurers, are refusing to write policies in certain cities for some older Hyundai and Kia models that have been deemed too easy to steal, according to the companies.
Several reports say the companies have stopped offering insurance on these vehicles in cities that include Denver, Colorado and St. Louis, Missouri. The insurance companies did not tell CNN which cities or states were involved.
The Highway Loss Data Institute released insurance claims data last September that confirmed what various social media accounts had been saying: Some 2015 through 2019 Hyundai and Kia models are roughly twice as likely to be stolen as other vehicles of similar age, because many of them lack some of the basic auto theft prevention technology included in most other vehicles in those years, according to the HLDI.

If you live in one of those cities, or others this is happening, and you have State Farm or Progressive, you don't have to sell your car. Change insurance companies if they refuse to renew your policy, although this seems to only apply to new policies with Progressive, not current customers. There are dozens of auto insurance companies in the United States. Shaq even advertises one of them. It should be a slam dunk to find one that will insure your car. >

Was... Was this an ad?
Edit: In general.