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What is the difference?
Happy spring offensive, assholes! >

I’m allowed to have an opinion on Ukraine defending itself against invasion, thank you very much. >

Imagine that... Germany and Poland having the same opinion and intention about where a large batch of tanks should go. >

Germany and tanks is like America and country music >

Germany and tanks is like America and country music....
Nobody does it better. >

I’d take an Abrams over a Leopard any day. >

I know nothing about tanks. That's just what I thought this comment was getting at. >

England is sending Def Leopard. >

And hopefully a couple Led Zeppelins for air support. >

“Never received the original tank request? No worries: we’d like to place a New Order, please.” >

"Russia calls it an 'extremely dangerous decision' "
Yeah, for Russia. >

That head on the thumbnail is terrifying. What is it? >

An Alp presumably, see "Nachtmahr" by Heinrich Fussli (1802) otherwise a crash-test dummy. >

Well, that’s an interesting answer. For anyone wondering, I think this is what’s being referred to. >

Thank you Germany,  it's about damn time. >

Germany always said that 
a)They won’t act alone
b)Other countries have to send requests in writing to the German government if they want to send their own german-bought Leopards to Ukraine 
Not even 24 hours after Poland sent that request, Germany had already approved it and confirmed that they’ll also send some of their own tanks >

Poland wasn’t the first country to offer to send tanks. Germany was also waiting on the US to send Abrams before they’d send or allow to be sent any Leopards >

Offering to send tanks and actually putting in the formal request with the German government are two different things
And my comment that Germany doesn’t wanna act alone refers to your second sentence >

I don't know anything about geo politics so I'm wondering why Germany wouldn't want to act alone? >

Fear of Russian retaliation. Cyber attacks, sabotage of critical infrastructure etc. If all western Allies act in unison, it’s harder for Russia to target them all simultaneously than if a single country acts alone. >

Ah OK that makes sense. >

Also keep history in mind. The last time Germans went to war against Russia , 25 million Russians died. It would be a very bad look if Germans are the first to send tanks to Ukraine that’ll kill Russian soldiers. Acting as part of a broad alliance is vital for Germany. >

While I know this is part of the official reasoning, it also seems like complete bullshit. A good part of the soviet soldiers back then where in fact from the area that is now Ukraine. 
So you could also argue that Germany now fails to protect the people who have helped her being liberated from fascism in their own fight to defend themselves against a dictatorial regime attacking them. 🤷 >

Fair point, but it still looks a little weird that German tanks are about to face Russian tanks in the planes of Ukraine again, where the biggest tank battles of ww2 took place
It’s hard to understand for people who didn’t grew up in Germany just how complicated and delicate the relationship between Russia and Germany is. Also keep in mind that East Germany was part of the eastern bloc until 1989. Older East Germans learned Russian instead of English in school and many still have more sympathy for Moscow than Washington because of it. It’s complicated. >

Damn, they’re getting this and several M1 Abrams while Putin’s minions are still in idk cold war machinery?… >

It's not like germany was a pacifist state. We liked to pretend that we have an obligation because of our past but we didn't had any problem selling heavy weapons to everyone who wanted them. Having a holier than thou attitude now doesn't help anybody. Sure it's good that people took time to analyze the situation but we knew for a long time now that the russian aggression can only be met with force. I don't know if Scholz really played the long game to try to get the USA to send Abrams, I don't believe in it. It's still good that we are sending Leopards now but I hope that future weapon deliveries won't take as long and can be approved quicker. >

When part of your "past" is 2014 and continuing energy purchases past Feb. 6th, it's suddenly a more immediate morality problem. >

The whole of europe has that problem, even poland who somehow act like they never bought gas from russia. That's really not a german problem but a european one. >

Europe's "leader" will not be let off quite so easily. >

Europes leader sits in an office in Brussels >

Let's be honest, the leadership is in Paris and Berlin, for better and for worse >

My friend and I have started calling Macron Jupiter with how he acts. >

Nice!  Fuck you Russia. >

Putin: Day 330 of a 3 day war. I am a master strategist. >

The Engineers for the Leopard and it's successor best be getting their pens and keyboards ready >

They are pretty heavy >

This seems like an elbow in the FA-FO curve for Russia.  Hopefully. >

Drones and grenades have been doing quite a bit so far.  This is going to be interesting. >

Looking forward to seeing Russian military losses in /r/LeopardsAteMyFace >

Main Battle Tanks not heavy tanks, but good news regardless