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Well, archive.org is about archives, not about a new documentary that can get their whole project in troubles. I will give again.
Wasn't surprised to see Musk take it off Twitter, since he has no idea what he's doing.
But disappointing that the Internet Archive folded. Why? >

I’m no expert but could it have been a copyright violation for it to be on there? I remember reading a book on the Internet Archive that happened to be out of print some years ago, and apparently it had been removed from the site while I was in the middle of reading it. I assumed they got a cease and desist letter and didn’t want to get sued. >

That's a good theory. But it's the Indian government who objects to this documentary and demanded that it be taken down; it's not a copyright question in this case. >

The government is objecting but if they can object on copyright grounds I am sure they would. >

Copyright is a government concept.
The government can make the law whatever they want to apply criminal or civil penalties for hosting this. There is no “higher level” than the national government, regardless of what you may think of the UN.
So copyright itself isn’t the issue, the government intervention is. How laws interact across countries is a fun area, India may declare it illegal in their country, but that should not impact someone in neighboring China. So Internet Archive taking it down everywhere because that’s what India wants is kind of a problem. >

I understand what you mean, but obviously when you are applying things across the world you are going to end up talking about international copyright law rather than the laws particular to India and their desires.  So if India wants to take down something on a global scale they are going to need to approach it from that perspective, not just Modi saying he doesn't like it. >

Making it a "must see" for those who had previously had no interest. >

That’s the only reason I ever watched A Serbian Film and gave To Kill a Mockingbird my fullest attention… guvment said I shouldn’t. >

Yeah, those two don't even compare. A lot of people say say we shouldn't watch A Serbian Film. >

My buddy told me the plot in detail so I feel I don’t need to watch it😐 >

Yup, just read it on Wikipedia. I’ll take a hard pass on that one. >

Go Team Sanity! Let's just check the summary... mmm hmm... mmm hmm... OH... mmm hmmm... and NO. >

Oof, yeah.  SF is actually on my list of horror films to watch.  After that wiki it's moved down the list a bit.  Or just like off of it--there has to be a proper mood for certain films, and I don't ever expect to be in that mood.  Not all of the recommended obscure/weird films are worth watching. >

Well, now I want to see it. Didn't even know it existed before a couple days ago. >

Right?! I had no real interest. Now, I’m mildly curious. >

I was curious enough to search for and download this. >

Modi never heard of the Streisand effect >

To be fair maybe he's never heard of Barbara Streisand >

I feel like Funny Girl is one of his favorite movies. Or at least the song Don't Rain On My Parade. >

Can’t find the second episode. Let me know if you have it. >

Definition of Streisand effect >

We need a new Internet archive. >

This is enraging. Internet Archive shouldn't be taking down anything it's a gd Archive. >

If it is copyrighted, there's not much they can do. >

There needs to be a pirate archive that can save everything regardless of copyright status. >

You all could just seed a torrent then. From what I've read the archive has enough problems with copyright issues as is. >

Torrents are already a thing, and useful.  A pirate archive would work a bit differently and serve a slightly different purpose.
Torrented files are stored on the personal devices of individual seeders and people who download.
This would be more like the pirate streaming sites, except it stores archived web pages instead of just hosting uploaded videos. >

And that'll work until the FBI takes over the site because of rampant copyright infringement. Just like they did with The Silkroad >

It's my understanding that not all websites are hosted in countries that would allow the FBI or other law enforcement agency to take over the site.  I could be wrong about that tho. >

They'll take over the web address. they'll do this through the Domain Registrars. They'll comply because they want to keep doing business in the US. It's got nothing to do with hosting. It's got everything to do with the domain look up, which the FBI can definitely fuck with. >

TPB has been up for over a decade, despite copyright interests constantly trying to get it taken down, including by fucking with the domains. So it's possible for pirate sites to resist government policing. >

Fuck me I have no interest in this at all but after all the shit I've seen on it getting censored I'm watching it tomorrow and taking notes. >

For real I need bullet points on what this guy did. >

John Oliver did a segment on him a couple of years ago which was enlightening >

While it's worth watching, I suggest waiting until afterwards if you happen to be eating... >

BBC should have pushed back on Modi and his version of India. India is slipping towards an autocracy and giving in to anti-democratic tendencies is bad policy. >

You'd be surprised how popular Nazis are in India. Then again, seeing as how popular Modi is - maybe you wouldn't be. >

I'm a dual German and american citizen and had an Indian coworker (who has lived in the USA for about 10 years) ask me if Germans feel proud at all for Nazi Germany and how powerful it was. It was at a work function so i had to contain my volume from screaming "fuck no". 
He is the same one who explained he felt Modi was good because he helped Indians feel proud of their country after years of feeling like they didn't have a reason to be. It's quite scary to see how similar the tactics being used are to the Nazis, and how similar people are responding to it including the educated middle class. >

I'd take behind the bastards with a grain of salt. He does research but tends to use the most extreme versions for shock value. I like some episodes for the information, but the host is such a grating twat it makes it hard to listen to.
Edit to add two things:
1. Will listen to those episodes, I'm on a work trip so have plenty of time.

I have encountered racists in Germany, so it's not perfect. The weirdest was when i went to boarding school for a semester and during a class that didn't apply to me and my friend with me we sat in the back listening to music. His headphones were really loud and the teacher began screaming at us about how Americans are so hypocritical that they criticize Germans if they see the flag being waved. He wasn't wrong, but it seemed like such a weird moment. >

Yo, can someone provide a link with easy access to watching the Modi documentary? >

Throw it on IPFS and spread the hash >

who is this cunt, let's watch that documentary >

No matter whether you're a fan of his or not, this is not a great look. I shall have to watch this documentary now and see what it is that has him playing dictator. >

I would never have known about this documentary. Thanks for censoring it. Now I can watch it and feel like a rebel >

Looks like someone needs to torrent it. >

If the present hindutva extremist government stays in power for long, The Republic of India will eventually turn into an autocracy. >

Oh it's being hidden? Now I'll have to find a way to watch it 😄 >

Let's introduce Modi to the Streisand effect. >

Other BBC shows aren't immediately available on Internet Archive. Why is it so surprising that an unauthorized copy was removed? >

I think it's because of the documentary being banned in India. Other than that, yeah, the Archive can't just put anything up (even though they often do). >

huh that makes sense... there's lots of jihadi media videos on the IA, lots of videos by the Taliban showing them donating rice to the poor and other. Obviously IA isn't gonna get a copyright takedown notice from the Taliban! >

That, and those videos are kept behind a wall, IIRC. IA makes you have an account and give a reason why you want to see those videos. >

Modi and his supporters are cowards. >

Modi is little more then a dictator, a popular one, but authoritarian to his core. >

He is just causing India more and more shame and embarrassment. Fuck this  worthless Putin-sucking piece of shit. >

Well now I want to see this documentary I was only a little bit interested in before. >

Modi? You mean The Butcher of Gujarat?
I heard about him many years ago on The Bugle Podcast with Jon Oliver and Andy Zaltzman. Not a very good fella, that Modi. >

So glad I was always too lazy to donate any money now.