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*Sorbet crying in the corner getting ignored...
As an Italian, gelato is the only word we have for ice cream. So yeah you can call everything gelatp >

As an American, calling Italian style ice cream “Gelato” allows people to know what your product is before they walk in the door.
It’s like being upset when someone points someone points out the difference between French bread and white bread. Yes they are both “bread” but the unique name helps customers understand your product better and manage expectations. >

But you also shouldn't call them out for just saying bread if they got French bread >

Like most things it depends on the context. 
If you are eating dinner and someone asks to pass the bread and you say “it’s actually French bread” -you’re being an ass.
If you are talking to a baker who is proud of their French bread recipe, and you say “whatever it’s just bread. I don’t get why you care so much” You are probably the ass. >

Unfortunately, most of the people here can’t comprehend that level of nuance >

I'm Italian and I find it weird for people to be saying "Gelato" instead of "ice cream" lmao. The thing about carbonara is true, though >

Which sucks because it’s almost impossible to find real guanciale anywhere in America. And bacon just isn’t the same
My fake carbonara gonna make a Vincenzo cry >

The one time I ate carbonara with bacon I was shocked by how different it was ngl >

American style bacon is almost too fatty, back bacon is too chewy >

I've never tried it but the bacon I ate while I lived in Belgium wasn't much better >

Belgian bacon probably is back bacon. Rashers >

I gotta learn more about bacon ngl >

Don't even get me started on the looks you get when you order 'action man bow tie pasta' at a fancy Italian restaurant. >

SMELL MY CHEESE, YOU MOTHER. >

Unrelated but until last year I always confused it with felatio and it wasn't a good time >

This made my day 😂 >

It’s only gelato if it comes from the Gelato region of Italy, otherwise it’s ice cream >

I don't understand this whole "X thing can only come form Y region", when the "X"s only distinct feature from its copies is the region and nothing else. It's basically branding but for food enthusiasts. >

It is branding but there’s also the nature of things. Your mother’s cooking may hit the spot for you in a way the best-manufactured clone won’t quite. Which means no-one can truly replace her cooking. Transfer that to people making a particular cheese in the place it’s from…those cheese makers’ jobs would be at risk unless we say “Comté cheese can only call itself that if it’s made in these 50 square miles”. 
It is branding to an extent but it’s not just that. >

All apologies to the Sardinians, but even as a cheese fiend, I'm still not eating Casu Marztu >

I have to look that up now. >

I hope you have a relatively strong stomach >

Oh I’d heard of things like that but didn’t recognise the name. No, not for me either, thank you. >

Gelato literally just means "ice cream". It's not a proper noun, Italians don't have a different word for American-style ice cream, and they sure don't say "ice cream" when they talk about a tub of Ben & Jerry's. >

Gelato can be ice cream, but itself is not ice cream. All ice cream has minimum 10% milk fat, where as there is no standard for Gelato. >

That's exactly what op said not to do >

OP is an idiot. Legally it cannot be called that if it doesn’t have enough fat. Sure you can call it poop if you want to. But like some of us actually like to use proper words for things. Like I had an ex would called Tylenol “ibuprofen” which made me crazy because they’re different. >

True, my father is still in jail for calling Ice Cream gelato >

Companies. Not individuals as much as they may deserve something for their stupidity >

You can’t even afford to go to a proper womens clinic and we’re the stupid ones? >

You can just drop a couple hundred dollars on a whim? Because where I live a real gyno visit would be like $200+ like sorry I couldn’t afford college so now I don’t have a degree and nothing that pays well will hire you without a degree. >

Maybe you’d of had better luck in life had you been a more positive person? Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it. >

Yep. Not smiling through the constant abuse is why I’m not Bezos. >

To touch on “the fat and air ratios.” By definition, that is what categorizes frozen dairy treats. Soft serve isn’t ice cream. It’s ice milk, but I’d never correct someone because I don’t care. Custard isn’t ice cream due to the high content of egg and being served at a higher temperature. Saying there aren’t differences is objectively false. I do agree that we shouldn’t correct each other, because people care too much about definitions. >

... soft serve ice cream is still ice cream, bro. >

No.  that's why it's called "soft serve" there's not enough dairy to classify it as ice cream. >

Soft serve what? >

If you have to qualify it with a preface then it’s clearly not the same thing. Is a truck the same thing as a semi-truck? Is deep dish pizza the same thing as pizza? >

Honestly I would say yes, a semi truck is a truck and a deep dish pizza is a pizza. Soft serve is definitely ice cream to me, I mean cmon people literally say “hard or soft serve ice cream”, but I guess it all depends on perception lol >


deep dish pizza is a pizza

I'll be honest, if I ordered a pizza and got whatever "deep dish pizza" is (just googled it), I would be very disappointed.
If I wanted that, I would order a pie. >

I feel like context is important? If you’re ordering from a place that sells Italian style pizza then you can just say “cheese pizza” and it’ll be a ‘normal’ pizza, but go to a place in Chicago that clearly only sells deep dish pizzas and don’t be surprised when you ask for “cheese pizza” and get a deep dish. Idk, what I’m trying to say is that they’re both styles of pizza which makes them both pizza, right? Though if we all had the same opinions, the world would be a boring place. >

If made correctly, they are actually two different things in the culinary world. 

"But the fat and air ratios between the two are different." No. Your specific ratios don't make it an altogether different product.

Ratios of milk, sugar, & cream aside, Gelato doesn't contain egg yolks but traditional Ice Cream does. They are also served at different temperatures if done correctly with Gelato at the warmer temperature. 
So yes, despite having very similar tastes they are different. >

strawberry and chocolate are very different but still both types of ice cream.    Icecream with hot fudge is served at a higher temp but is still just ice cream.       checkmate athestits >

Yeah, no. That argument doesn't actually work. >

Neither does yours, so I thought it would be fitting.   Gelato means ice cream in italian.  Ben and Jerries = Gelato.   Everything is Gelato. >

Even if they’re functionally very similar I don’t think there’s anything wrong with using different terms to recognise different processes and product. Gelato tends to be churned a lot slower than most ice creams, resulting in less air and a richer flavour. 
Might as well start using a blanket term “cheese” instead of cheddar, blue or pecorino cos it’s all just smelly milk right? >

I think what op is saying, to use your cheese thing, is that if someone says, 'I have a cheese burger!' you don't say 'no you have a CHEDDAR burger' or 'you have a PECORINO burger' even if that burger is using those particular cheeses.
Because both Cheddar and Pecorino both fall under 'cheese' so 'cheeseburger' is technically correct.
so someone saying I will have chocolate ice cream when talking about chocolate gelato is technically correct, so don't really need to be corrected. >

This isn't an accurate comparison for gelato. Ice cream is not the umbrella term for cream based frozen items. No one is arguing with separating frozen yogurt and ice cream. No one is calling frozen custard ice cream. Zabaglione is not ice cream.
In your example, cheese is the catchall. Ice cream is not the catchall. >

I call custard ice cream >

Well, you'd be wrong because it isn't lol >

That's fine. I'm gonna call it that anyway >

The texture and tastes are clearly different lol I can understand not making a big deal of it but they’re different things. Piece of toast is not a croissant, they’re two different types of bread. >

white and wheat are both just bread.... fixed your analogy for you. >

Gelato is an ice cream, but it's a subset of ice cream. Like how soft serve is a variation of ice cream.
It's different because it's literally made differently. It is a subtle difference, but it's enough to qualify it as it's own thing >

Yeah its all ice cream though which is the point >

True, like I don’t think anyone would be mad at someone referring to soft serve as ice cream lol >

Idk, the difference between a lot of completely different things is based on ratio. And if it’s a different process to make it, then you’d need a different recipe. 
Besides, the texture is totally different, which affects how it tastes. 
You made good points and got me thinking but I’m gonna disagree and upvote. >

This pretentious nonsense only happens in America, I'd bet. Gelato is literally just Italian ice cream. Italians don't have a different word for different kinds of ice cream depending on fat content or whatever. >

Yep America is the world's dumbest place, full of shallow nonsense like this and wokeness >

"wokeness" isn't shallow, it's progressive 🖕🏻 >

Pasta is just noodles >

Noodles are usually made with flour milled from common wheat. Pasta is processed from durum semolina, which is coarser than typical flour. However, that difference is not always so cut and dried. >

That’s not accurate. In northern Italy, fresh egg pasta is made using 00 wheat flour, not semolina. Semolina is more common in the south. Both are “pasta”. >

Can’t trust the fucking internet. >

I think it’s probably when searching in English, getting more American websites, and I seem to recall a lot of Italian American immigrants came from the south, so it could be that semolina is more common there.
Interestingly, while semolina and 00 wheat are the most common, in some regions here they have specialty pasta made out of all kinds of flour. For instance, there’s Pizzoccheri made from buckwheat flour and Piccagge from chestnut flour. >

Is gelato vegan? >

Fantastic movie >

Its always great when a customer asks for ice cream but they really mean gelato and you give them ice cream and get all upset because its not gelato. >

Same with people who say Dairy Queen isn’t actually ice cream. >

I wish I cared about anything the way y’all care about this. >

Gelato is ice cream.
-Me, an Italian >

Gelato is literally the italian word for ice cream >

I'm Italian and I've always been told than the english world for gelato Is ice cream, so I have no idea why there's a problem >

As a baker, reading “your specific ratios don’t make it an altogether different product” is short circuiting my brain. >

Gelato literally means ice cream in Italian >

In Italy there aren’t 2 different words for that. Gelato is ice cream. Ice cream is gelato. >

That’s like saying a cookie and a cake are the same thing—they’re both just flour and eggs and sugar and butter but mixed in different ratios 🙄 just say you don’t know how to cook and don’t understand how different ratios of fat completely alter the end result >

But... That's exactly the same thing. You'll hear a French or Belgian talk about "des petits gâteaux" (small cakes) talking about cookies.   
Sometimes the precision is necessary and sometimes it's obvious and one can use the generic word (ice cream, cake). >

If you truly, honestly believe there is NO difference between a cake and a cookie then I pity you and your tastebuds. And also, I don’t trust your cooking  either >

Did you read what I wrote or you are responding to something else? Not important anyway. >

Ice cream ≠ gelato ≠ sorbet ≠ sherbet ≠ custard ≠ soft serve >

Traditionally, gelato is made with milk rather than cream. >

Where do you think cream comes from? >

Gasoline and diesel both come from oil but they're not the same thing. >

They are if your OP.