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Türkiye is a big boy, he can handle it himself.
According to regional officials, the Russian army shelled Kherson 12 times yesterday, hitting the maternity hospital, school, polyclinic, seaport and residential buildings. >

Maternity hospital... Russians are scum >

At this point they’d be safer sending pregnant women to military sites, since they’re apparently not targeting those. /s >

Scary hoe close that sentence is to not actually being incorrect >

English? >

It is scary how close that sentence is to being correct and not tongue in cheek sarcasm >

Thank you. Now French please. >

Je ne suis French, ich kann hilfe dich nicht >

Cantonese now, bitte >

For the lazy;
- 1 ship was hit (cargo ship, the Tuzla). The 2nd ship (Ferahnaz) received minor shrapnel damage from the first ship.
- Both ships were Vanuatu-flagged ships owned by Istanbul-based companies.
- Kherson (where the incident happened) is not one of the ports covered by the Black Sea Grain Initiative.
- According to regional officials, the Russian army shelled Kherson 12 times yesterday, hitting the maternity hospital, school, polyclinic, seaport and residential buildings. >

These fucking Russians are monsters. >

Look at history closely, and you will realize you don't need the furst word of your conment >

Russian people in general are not monsters. It's a healthy ability to be able to separate people from there governments as most people are nowhere near as cruel as their governments are.
The United States is afforded that courtesy, China gets that courtesy, the UK gets that courtesy, the list goes on. The Russian people deserve the same. >

they were extended that courtesy, russians as a people time and again have shown that the majority support their government 100%, that's why they're lumped in with their government on little things like abetting genocide. >

Considering that right now you get arrested if you try to say anything negative about the government, I'm definitely not inclined to believe you. Most human beings do not want to hurt other human beings.
China is currently under heavy suspicion of committing genocide and it's not something that I would pin on its people.
The United States is still treating Native Americans like second class citizens and forcing them into situations where they might die, but I still do not pin that on the population.
When your only news source is State TV that is legally unable to tell you about these things that are happening, it's not reasonable to be blamed for what's happening.
I absolutely hate the Kremlin, but that's not justification to hate an entire ethnic group.
Edit: removed redundant wording >

Definitely a reach there. Native Americans aren't mistreated dude. >

I can't not notice that the "safety first" sign is on fire. >

they tried >

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 48%. (I'm a bot)


Video posted on social media shows flames racing through the superstructure of a 3,943 dwt, 1980-built general cargo ship, the Tuzla, yesterday, after a Russian attack on the Ukrainian port of Kherson.
The Vanuatu-flagged ship is owned by Istanbul-based Cayeli Shipping Ltd and, according to Turkey's Veryanssin TV, is one of two Turkish-owned merchant ships hit in the Russian attack.
Kherson is not one of the ports covered by the Black Sea Grain Initiative and reports differ on whether the ships were struck by a bomb, a missile or artillery shelling.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: ship^#1 Kherson^#2 attack^#3 Russian^#4 shelled^#5 >

No way this was accidental after today's news of Ukraine getting tanks.
It's probably the only kind of retaliation Russia has left at this point. >

of course its accidental, havent you seen russias attempts at firing, they hit a lot but rarely their target. they have hit those two boats so they were not aiming for them. >

Yeah, I doubt there were any Ukrainian civilians on board so it's gotta be an accident >

A ship could be an accident, but two is guestionable. >

I love guestionable. >

A delightful portmanteau for questionable guests you come home to find your girlfriend has brought over. >

One ship powers millions of homes? That sounds insane and cool af. Why don't we have these. Why depend on freakin turkey (the bird named country hahaha) for it. Why don't we have big trucks that can power huge areas? >

That’s interesting. I was reading about PM-3A at McMurdo Station, Antarctica.
The PM-3A (Portable, Medium-power, 3rd generation) was a plant installed to provide 1.75 MW electric, plus heating and desalinization to McMurdo Station. It was shut down in September 1972 because of a bunch of problems. 
So it is interesting seeing portable modular reactors returning after 50 years. >

The U.S Air Force even had an experimental aircraft with a 1MW nuclear reactor after WW2. Although, it doesn't sound nearly as impressive when you learn that a single radial engine on the plane generated 2.8MW of power conventionally, at a much lower weight. Those engines generated as much horsepower as a small sports car purely in thrust - 200 - just from the exhaust gases being ejected. >

Boy oh Boy they sure are lucky that those ships did not belong to Turkey’s military because that shit would have invoked Article 5 >

we're all lucky, i reckon >

It’s not owned by the Turkish government so I don’t think it would be the same as an attack on Turkey. >

Technically speaking, a ship is like you're on land, hence the flag.
The international sea has no Police or sovereignty, but when aboard their ship you're in their country.
Not sure if this is an ART 5 type of situation, but it sure is a good pretext if anyone would want to take the first step towards WW3.
Edit: the flag is Vanuatu (Island in Oceania), not Turkish as the title suggests. May Vanuatu declare war on Russia >

It’s owned by a private company. Which country is that? >

The country it carries the flag.
You can have an Indian boat company carrying goods for an American company - if anyone attacks, the attack is on India.
This case it's a Turkish Ship, meaning it's an attack on Turkey.
EDIT: As corrected below, it's actually a Vanuatu flagship, which is an Island in Oceania, not at all an ART 5 >

No it isn’t, because they are registered in the country of Vanuatu. The only connection is the Turkish company. >

You're right, I corrected my reply so it's not misleading as the title. >

Turkey won’t say much.  I doubt Turkey is going to invoke Article 5. >

Turkey:
Sell us more S-400s and we'll keep blocking Sweden and Finland from joining NATO
We can ignore the "accident" in Kherson if you throw in some oil >

I don’t think Russia needs Turkeys help to derail Swedens NATO bid, Sweden seems to have enough right wing Russian sympathises to do that on their own. >

There is very little sympathy for Russia in Sweden, right wing extremism doesn't exactly flourish here either.
Erdogan using whatever he can for political gain should not be confused with anyone else's values. >

Erdogan: Thank you, Vovi, can I have another? >

Anyone with more knowledge than me: What are the chances of this leading to Article 5 invocation? >

Very unlikely. Since they’ve been ported there since the start of the war, and the boats being unmanned merchant ships—its highly unlikely. But Turkey ain’t gonna be happy!! >

I imagine Turkey is thrilled. Russia needs them currently and this gives them more political capital to use against Russia to get what they want. >

You have a point!!! >

Erdogan needs to stop being a pussy and let the Russians know that they won’t tolerate Turkish assets being hit on purpose, or by accident and that there will be consequences. >


has been anchored at Kherson since February 24 2022

I don't want to victim blame here but seems odd to leave a valuable cargo ship in an active warzone for almost a year. Was there something wrong without that I couldn't sail out to safer harbor? >

An active war zone... >

Yet my whore of a mother says that Ukraine should just surrender and they'd be better off and she disagrees her tax money going to Ukraine. Only reason I didn't smack her is because she is my mother. >

Lol stop living in her basement >

A “shot across the bow” message to Erdogan? >

Opps >

Talk about collateral damage >

Those ships aren’t hospitals or orphanages what did Russia think they were aiming at? >

Erdogan is such a pussy watch him be all silent >

As a Swedish person I would like to help but.. you know.. >

Turkey got a book problem, they don't time for serious bombing on their assets. >

Only Türkiye should respond. 
Not everyone else. >

Funny thing is a lot of Turkish citizens believe that NATO would never come to Turkey's side. Rhetoric like that justifies that way of thinking. >

Türkiye switches sides too much >

With the relationship between Turkey and NATO taken into consideration, Turks think the same way too. The mentality right now is "NATO isn't looking out for Turkey, so Turkey should look out for Turkey" 
Iraq war, War in Syria are just two things where Turkeys trust for NATO declined because NATO did what it wanted and Turkey being a bordering nation was left with crisis at it's borders.
It's called Realpolitiks, but It's only an issue when Turkey does it.