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Because our corrupt politicians are getting their cut of that money
Pfizer also plans to charge between $100 and $130 for its vaccine.  What a coincidence. >

And just like that vaccine rates drop to 0% >

They will still be paid for by insurance and subsidized by the government for the end user. Like flu shots today.  This is fleecing the taxpayers, not the end user.   
Edit: people misunderstanding my comment - I’m not in favor of the higher prices, I’m just saying it likely wont have an impact on vaccination rates.  This is exactly what happens with national healthcare. >

And the uninsured and underinsured. The are disposable. /s >

It ain’t free to die. Cost more than $ 10,000 to be interred. >

It is very free to the individual that dies. The family is the one who foots the bill if prior arrangements aren’t made. Also, good thing many of my family members chose cremation, it was a lot less than $10k. >

Tell me about it. I’ve been there. >

Same, my Grandparents and Father all died unexpectedly within 6 months of each other a few years back, along with my best friend who had a 2 month old baby. Irrelevant because I was not responsible for taking care of his funeral, but I do know it was not cheap. >

Those are very sad times and expensive times. Yet, life goes on. Take care. No one gets out alive. >

It is patently absurd (pun intended) that the government just surrenders these patents and intellectual property to for profit companies without maintaining any control over them whatsoever.  
If this isn’t a great example of corporate capture, I don’t know what is >

I thought Moderna was the one company that didn’t benefit from operation warp speed? Not that i in any way condone the price hike. >

I believe Operation Warp Speed dealt with manufacturing not development. The idea of manufacturing vaccines that had positive data before they were approved since it takes a long time to build up a large amount of vaccine cultures. The thinking is at least one vaccine would get approved and the headstart would offer enough savings in the economy to justify the cost, not to mention lives saved. >

No it dealt with both.  Moderna developed their vaccine solo  . Again i don’t think the raise in price is a good thing but you have to admit it puts them in a different position than the other vaccine developers >

Moderna took $1.5 billion for development. >

So did they take less money for something else ? I’ve always heard they were somehow an exception to receiving the benefits of operation warp speed. Are you saying this is totally false?! If it’s not then they should be granted a little more freedom for turning down a government handout. >

BioNTech is the vaccine company that rejected Operation Warp Speed funding. They created the vaccine, and partnered with Pfizer in the US to develop mass production and distribution. >

BioNtech was supported by the German government and they want their taxpayer money back, Germany is a well run country for the taxpayer >

Source? >

it was around the time of the "release the patents" push, 2021, the German government said no as it was their investment >

Because in America we socialize the loses and privatize the profits. >

Profit will kill millions. India and other countries knew this was going to happen, were trying to push for making the vaccine and related tech public domain so developing countries can develop their own. But no, IP and monopolization of something as essential as a vaccine amongst the rich pharmaceutical corps among the rich countries is non-negotiable. This is what millions will die over - someone had to make money. >

This announcement should have been followed by the US announcing it is now public domain. Teach those fuckers a lesson. >


those fuckers

Which fuckers? The people profiting from this are the people in charge. Congress representatives made millions of off pharma stock gains. >

Upon being elected any gains made by the official should be forfeited over to the governing body over their constituents, raise their pay a bit but they don't get 5 sources of revenue to funnel bribes through anymore. >

It was put to a vote and it was a unanimous "no". >

Politicians are the best investment a company can make. >

It’s sad how true this comment is :(((( >

Congress needs to pass legislation that requires the federal government/American taxpayers to get a slice of the “pie” just like private investors get! Imagine the tax relief for Americans if that had been done from the country’s beginning. >

Correct. We need to start structuring these in one of several ways:
1) a loan with clear payback terms and interest rates 
2) an investment where the government obtains a certain percentage of the economic outcomes (dividends, royalties, etc)
3) a hybrid model of loan and investment. 
4) government owned IP that is sold or leased to private individuals/companies at fair market value. This would be things are are generated by government agencies or exclusively funded by federal dollars. >

So a simple contract just like any sane business partner would make. I see where libertarians get their hatred of the government from, I also just dislike their alternative more >

Their poor CEO needs to buy groceries >

Hey now that third yacht isn't going to buy itself you know. >

Betsy DeVos’s yacht scheduler has entered the chat. >

50 Republicans and Kyrsten Sinema, made sure this could happen. >

That's just 51 Republicans. >

Sinema i something even further than a republican. Don't know what exactly, a horse tirdling or something, but worse for sure. >

Because “privatized profits and socialized expenses” is the story of the United States from 1980-Present. >

I can answer that question... for money >

Publicize the cost, privatize the profit; it’s as American as apple pie. >

It’s all a big club and we’re not in it🙃 >

In any logical universe the company would only profit after having repaid the government first. >

moderna is a business, and businesses exist for one reason:  to make as much money as they can get away with.  that's it.  there's nothing else.  
moderna wouldn't have put one ounce of effort into developing the vaccine if they hadn't been guaranteed big profits.  
why we continue to worship at the altar of big business is beyond me. >


why we continue to worship at the altar of big business is beyond me.

Because big business donates big money to sleazy politicians >

Because the US government exists to implement socialism for corporations and anarcho-capitalism on the poor. >

Let me tell you a story about insulin... >

Not having controlling interest in the patent should be investigated. >

Who do you think the government works for?
Us the people?  LOL >

Corporations are people my friend. /s >

That’s not sarcastic there was a bill written to say just that >

thats just the way that capitalism works. the research for anything remotely useful within the past century has been publicly funded and immediately turned over to the private sector to rape and pillage the public for profit. its an american tradition >

And most of the stadiums in each state >

Tons of meds get US government funding and then congress (investors) and the companies, sell them to impossible to afford prices, while people in other countries get it for free with their universal healthcare. >

"Fuck you! Pay me." >

M4A now.  Not later…..fucking now.  I’m done with this fucking bullshit >

I don’t know how this won’t lead to a massive increase in COVID cases down the road. People aren’t going to pay for this. >

The agreement signed off on by the US govt allows it, so they will charge what they can. >

Who signed off on it? Was it that grand ole negotiator TFG? >

Yea that's the one, the brilliant negotiator >

Behold the art of the deal. >

This should be free to all and we should be sharing it with other countries otherwise this will happen again and again. >

thats what they call "long term gains" >

Socialism when developing it, capitalism when selling it. >

It's not only a way to deter people from getting vaccinated, but a way to give the fervent anti vaccine another reason to vilify vaccine makers, which will only help sustain the contrarianism and all the conspiracies that come along with this deranged ideology.
The damage is done, even If most insurance plans end up covering the vaccine, it still looks bad, it's still negligence, it's still exploitative.