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First off, a stranger on the street that sees something they find objectionable according to their version of “right”, can fuck right off. Same goes for unsolicited parenting and pregnancy advice. 
Second, there has been plenty of research they says having a drink while pregnant is perfectly fine. 
Third, there are already rules in place like this for pregnant women. When you go to regular OB appointment the first thing they do is check your pee for all the substances and you can get into a heap of trouble and lose custody of your newborn and go straight to jail if your labs show you to be the kind shit brick that would abuse substances while pregnant.
Does that apply to husbands who smoke next to the pregnant woman >

Or how about dead beat dads?  Why isn't it illegal to be a bad father? >

Because you aren’t potentially killing ur baby lol this is a terrible comparison >

But it would be harming the child. >

I don’t smoke nor do I agree with smokers but it’s still not the same for a pregnant woman to smoke and a man that’s sitting beside her for 3 minutes >

Second hand smoke is proven to be harmful for the pregnant woman as well as the baby. >

Hmm does this extend to sushi, rare steak,  and unmicrowaved deli turkey too? >

Only bi-monthly on the weekend >

That went right over your head >

Ahaha I had to double check it was actually the OP! >

Not trying to justify drinking and smoking during pregnancy but out of curiosity how would this play out with the backdrop of “my body, my choice”? >

"My body, my choice" is a great slogan and ideal. Taken to its absolutes/literally though it is moronic. Obviously it's not your right to chop off all your baby's toes the day before birth because the baby is "your body" thats absolutely insane. There is medium ground between safety of the mother, timing during pregnancy, and safety of the child and that should be what people discuss and argue about. This post was basically a joking way to get people to look at it that way. Obviously what I posted, taken literally is crazy, but at its heart it's what's right, we need to find the sane middle ground with it.... as well as "My body My choice" in spirit? Yes. Literally? No, that's insane. >


Obviously it's not your right to chop off all your baby's toes

All of could think of when I read this was..
Erm.. Americans are pretty hot on chopping off their baby's foreskin 😬 >

YUP >

My body my right is never used in this context. >

Let's arrest all fathers for drinking too 
Why stop there? Arrest fathers for smoking and drug abuse too. >

Yeeeaah I hate seeing someone smoke, do drugs, or drink while pregnant. But at the same time, addictions aren't so easily broken. That, and with the restriction on abortion for some an reason is already going to cause enough foster care children. >

Yes, let's give women even more reason to fear being punished for reproducing. 
I, like you, know I get up every day wondering "how can I make a woman's body even more like an incubator, legally". >

u/yallscrazy is salivating at the thought >

So if I have a drink today and I find out at the doctor a day later that I’m 1 week pregnant, you’d have me arrested despite the fact that pregnancy is incredibly hard to notice until at least six weeks? >

~~K~~no~~wingly~~. >

How will you prove a woman knows she pregnant, then? There’s even a show dedicated to women giving birth, never knowing they were pregnant. It can happen. Should women be arrested if they don’t show the typical signs of pregnancy and do irresponsible things? 
Also, why wouldn’t this also carry over into “irresponsible actions” that could hurt a fetus like traveling to a country that has Zika virus, working a dangerous job, playing rough contact sports, taking medications that cause birth defects, etc. >


Should women be arrested if they don’t show the typical signs of pregnancy and do irresponsible things? 

Knowingly pregnant is in the title of my post. >

Yes, and my question is how will law enforcement prove someone was knowingly pregnant when they committed the crime? >

I'm not agreeing with OP, but proving intent is part of what law enforcement does. It's not exactly difficult to find out if a woman knew she was pregnant, and ironically this is part of the reason why his idea would be terrible. Women with substance abuse issues would not seek prenatal care. >

It’s not difficult if you don’t mind violating human rights, you mean. Besides anything less than a confession, how would you prove that a woman knew she was pregnant without a doubt besides breaking privacy laws to force her doctors to release her medical information?
You know this would be abused, too. Anytime a cop meets a woman who rejects him, divorces him, or gives him lip, he’s going to accuse her of smelling like weed/booze and ask for a warrant to prove she’s not pregnant. Then corrupt cops know all about her medical history… >


Besides anything less than a confession, how would you prove that a woman knew she was pregnant without a doubt besides breaking privacy laws to force her doctors to release her medical information?

If she lives in the US than it's not against the law for medical information to be used in court. 
I agree this law would be abused and that it's a bad idea, but it would be very east to prove that a woman knows she's pregnant. >

Don’t you need a warrant and reasonable suspicion? >

The process is that an attorney, court clerk, or other legal professionals would need to request the medical records if they are legally relevant to the case. When that happens, you can choose not to release your medical info. 
But if a judge, magistrate, or administrative tribunal signs off on the request, then it becomes a court order, and your medical providers have to release the information. In order to be considered for a court order, a lawyer must explain how evidence within specific medical records is necessary and possibly the only way to prove a case. >

This would require parents and prospective parents to vote for a law that might impact them, and good luck with that. >

If you are a smoker, quitting would put more stress in the fetus than not quitting. It is recommended to slow down rather than quit. In fact this applies to all/most drugs if you are addicted. >

So the kid could be completely unharmed by one drink but still gets to be born in jail. Cool. >

That's what the get out of jail free card is for in my completely literal post I made ya silly. >

How convenient there is a "get out of jail card" from the accuser, aka a man, so men like you can police women minding their own business. If there were such an exception then it was never about the baby's welfare and 100% a misogynist salivating at the idea of policing women. The "for the babies!" mask slipped and another misogynist piece of trash was revealed. Yes, I am talking about u/yallscrazy >

Ahh yes, nothing produces a functional, stable, productive human like having a mother in prison from birth!
Oh, oh, or better yet! Fine her thousands of dollars! That’ll teach her, and improve the child’s life!
And if all else fails, we can just take the child from her and put them in the foster system! The foster system is totally ready to accept all those children!
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