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If you eat at ANY ONE OF THESE you’re a POS!!!
Chipotle, the company that stole workers wages and then forced many of those same workers into arbitration when they got caught rather than just fucking paying what they owed. 
And then Chipotle had the fucking gall to try and get out of the arbitration it had forced those folks into. 
Fuck that shithole. >

I also personally see more complaints about Chipotle’s shrinkflation than any other food joints. >

The Chipotle near my work started trying to charge for extra rice. That's some bullshit man. It's not an extra charge on the app or anything. >

Last time I went to Chipotle, they tried charging for extra rice. I just said "Ok, fine", payed my tab, ate my food, and haven't gone back since. That was a year ago, and I eat fast food on the weekly. This chipotle is at the end of my street. I WOULD go there more often, but I'm not going to be nickle and dimed like that. It's bad enough that in 5 years the burrito prices are DOUBLE what they were. Used to be $6.10, now they're $12.50. Who knows what they are now. That was a year ago. 
When I first started going in 2006, they used to scoop your chicken on. Some of them would even do 2-3 scoops. They were like "fuck it!" 
Now, you see them scoop the chicken, and then put it into these little portion control cups, which is like half a scoop. 
Between that, and the way they handled covid (some days closed, some days open, some days open but app only, some days you could order but not dine in, other days you could dine in, and you never knew which until you got there.)
Between all that, I said fuck them, and I haven't gone back to a chipotle since. If you're going to treat your customers like that, then fuck off. >

I don’t get how Chipotle stays in business in the western US. I can get the best burritos in the country in CA which are double the size but cost less. Which is ironic because Chipotle moved their headquarters from Denver to SoCal. >

Which place would those bigger, cheaper burritos be found? >

Taquerias. Most taquerias are cheaper for the same if not bigger burrito. I go to one that’s on the way from work whenever I get the burrito itch >

100% this. Literally any taco truck around town, or any restaurant owned and operated by actual Mexican people, will get you far better food for a reasonable price. Take a long lunch & explore the area around your work; you may find a hidden gem. >

One of the things I love about being just a bit outside of a small/medium sized city in PA is the amazing food diversity. There’s a Main Street of the area just across the bridge from downtown. I can get Indian (just had the best pad Thai I’ve ever tasted tonight), Mexican, Vietnamese, Japanese, Chinese, Italian, Irish, English etc that is all authentic, no stops pulled to make it Americanized. 
It has the American stuff as well, great burgers, BBQ, sandwiches, etc. If I could afford to eat out more often I would. But we both love cooking and whip up some wonderful stuff with a lot less money. 
Try to keep it to once a month or so as a “date” night with the wife. There are more cuisines in that two mile stretch than anywhere else in the county, including directly in the city where it is more sectionalized, if that makes sense. >

Pad Thai is Thai, but the rest of your post is on point. >

I am surprised about In-N-Out, since they're know for paying $18 per hr right off the bat, which placed them higher than other fast food places and warehouses.
The only place they don't pay that high is the few locations they have in TX, where it's $12. >

But is that 40 hours at $18/hr? With benefits? That's the thing that always gets me. I see these places in my neck of the woods (Central PA), like Sheetz, etc., advertising $18/hr but is that just 15 hours a week? Or full-time with bennies? >

Managers are full time, but I think everyone else is part-time, just skating under full-time hours (I'd guess a lot are 20-35 hours a week).
Most of the employees I see at my local In-N-Out are high school and college aged. >

I worked 38 hours a week in highschool because they wanted me to be full time but not have benifits. >

Sounds like me when I worked at Walmart.  Close to full time, but not close enough to 40 hours to be full time and get benefits.
Of course, I was also working at another job (I was an usher in Guest Services for the Sacramento Kings), so I wouldn't have been able to hit full time even if I wanted to.  12-14 day stretches with no days off, either working at the store or working something at the arena... >

Is it true Walmart doesn't pay 1.5x if you were to work holidays? >

Yes. I worked there in high school. They also don't consider you full time unless you work 40 hours for a set amount of weeks consecutively (can't remember the exact number) so they would work people 40 hours multiple weeks in a row and then give them 38 the week it would make them full time to fuck them out of benefits. 
Walmart is a scum fuck company and if you have any other options for groceries please avoid giving Walmart money. >

I’m sure most companies are doing this all while complaining no one wants to work. Such a failed system. >

And getting a not insignificant amount of people to repeat that stupid phrase. >

Again
SPENDING MILLIONS to block raises >

They would rather pay lobbyists and lawyers than their own workers. >

And this is why capitalism failed... All because of the greed of ALL the profits instead of "some" profits. Spending money to avoid their workers from making livable wages, thus making money out of their ~~slaves~~ workers. >

It’s so stupid and short sighted in the grand scheme of things because if workers make more money, then they spend more money, which then goes to profits. >

100%. The reason the 50s were considered so idealic (in part) was because 1 member of the household made enough to pay for every need and most wants; in addition to raising kids. >

Also, the top marginal tax rate was like....90%. 
Highways and subways didn't just spring up out of nowhere. There was public money to spend on these things instead of artificial scarcity. >

Ehh income tax is a distraction. Corporate tax rate is really what matters. In 1950s it was over 40%. Today it’s… 21%. If you wonder why money isn’t circulated and why Republicans want sales tax(to hit the low and middle class) and most Democrats want income taxes, it’s because the real capital owners don’t want corporate taxes. 
Also that is not me both sidesing, Republicans are far worse. The point is most politicians in the USA now protect capital above all else. >

i believe that social issues and things of that nature are perpetual hot potatoes politicians use to keep people distracted from their main focus: money. but no one cares. you could give someone stacks of millions of receipts of all the wasteful spending, by both democrats and republicans, and they'd just change the subject or simply choose not to read them. >

Correct. Pretty much has been this way since the 80s and the popularization of neoliberalism. >

Hey. That money you’re spending, just give it to the workers. >

Sure, but it won’t go very far. The reason they’re willing to pay millions is because even a 50 cent per hour raise for their workers will cost more millions, every year. 
Not justifying their position, but in my experience a lot of folks don’t quite fathom how much money it takes to give raises to thousands of employees. >

Yeah, spend 10m to save 1billion is a no brainer for heartless monsters out to just make money. >

There's a reason a lot of executives are psychopaths. >

Was a somewhat recent thread of people talking about how they wish they could learn how to "turn off their emotions" so they could interact better when having an office job. Fucking disgusting part of society we have going on, especially since it's not even like trying to save people making hard decisions...it's just purely about acquiring currency. >

Yup. The most profitable way to run a company requires you to screw over other people.
Extreme example is Trump. Just doesn't pay his suppliers if it's cheaper to pay the lawyers. Then doesn't pay the lawyers. >

Of course companies will spend money to block raises because it is cheaper for them in the long run to pay as little as possible to their slave employees. >

It's like that speech in Fight Club on the breakdown of the cost of a recall, and the decision coming down to the dollar.
and of course it does. I dont think anyone expects anything less of a company. 
But that's from their perspective. You know, the 1% of the people in the country that run businesses. What about the rest of our perspectives? The rest that work for them? 
Its funny, some workers get the idea of higher wages, or more benefits, or collective bargaining on contracts and wage levels/benefits, and the corporate mouthpieces who own the major media companies and cable news stations will scream SOCIALISM.
Thing is, all those profits from the major corporations, from McDonalds to Chipotle, to Ford and Boeing, etc. The profits are from our labor. Our labor extracts the minerals and food from the ground. Our labor crafts the goods and food and services. They're getting rich from our work and our labor. And when we ask for more, its 'socialism'. but when they and hteir politicians enact laws that favor even greater cuts to them, even greater profits for them, well, that? that's capitalism. And they'll sooner have us work for free in shackles and call that capitalism and Freedom. >


Why are only fast food workers eligible for that minimum wage? Why not have it be the state minimum wage?
Aren’t most fast food places (McDonald’s especially) franchise locations owned by independent franchisees? Why would McDs corporate put so much skin into shooting it down? >

Because it treats corporate as a joint employer and that opens up a bunch of liability and managerial complications. 
Honestly I think if this passes the CA franchisees will mostly sell to corporate. It’s the only structure that makes sense. 
(I work for the clown and bleed ketchup but this is just my opinion of the situation.) >

Nothing screams America more then your employees not being able to live in the very society they work in…. >

This is also a problem in the Netherlands >

Don't eat at these sweat shops. Their greed turns the stomach. >

Plus it’s all garbage food that’s just making you unhealthy and giving you medical conditions. 
Boycott trash food! >

Don't eat McDonald's, not near an In-N-Out, and haven't eaten Chipotle since they were giving people food poisoning. Glad to have a reason to continue. >

I haven't eaten in those mega fast-food chains in forever. All those KFC, McDonalds, and even Tim Hortons are shit companies. I even worked at at Timmies (in Canada), and they were cheapstakes as they all are.
Honestly, the only fast-food chain I sometimes eat at right now is a Quebec-owned only chain and Subway. But if I get any reasons to not eat at Subway anymore, I'll quit yesterday.
Just like how I haven't bought ONE product from Nestle or Coca in YEARS, like probably close to 6-7 years now.
I know there are very few people willing to cut something out of their lives, but I've done it. I can easily give up Aero, Kitkat, and all that garbage if I can save myself the trouble of giving them more money. >

Nestle owns so many subsidiaries that I bet you still buy stuff they make without knowing. I would bet a decent amount on that.
Haagen-dazs ice creams, anything tollhouse, aero, Gerber, perrier, digiorno and tombstone pizzas, Purina pet food, fancy feast pet food, coffee-mate, Starbucks home products, lean cuisine and that's literally off the top of my head. 
It's impossible to be a truly conscientious consumer in today's world. The change has to start from the top down or it will never change. >

I did check on the brands they own. I did get rid of Haagen-dazs, Delissio and many other products I consumed before I realized how fucked up they were.
Maybe I inadvertently consume 1-2 products that weren't in the list, but I try to keep up with the brands they own and avoid them. There are always alternatives to their stuff, even if they own a fucking huge chunk of "brands". >

they could easily afford to pay people more. the real reason they don't is because they don't want the poors to think they have any power to change a single goddamn thing, and they DO want the poors to think that if you're broke, it's 100% your own fault
as evidenced by the fact that "if you want more money, get a higher paying job!!" was immediately followed by "nobody wants to work!!!" after so many people quit and got a better job >

I feel like the big brain analytics of these think tanks to argue for abolishing min wage or keeping wages lower are basically like "Shit if we give an inch, the working class will demand a mile" so they're so fucking dug in at this point that they don't even really want to give any motivation, or tell the story of any working class victory. Like you say, they want their workforce to be powerless.
And we do have victories. we do have power.  its up to us to learn and share them, to motivate and support each other (working class, etc) because its not coming from the stock owners, the mega rich, the investor class, classicaly: the bourgeosie >

Wtf. Give out fucking occasional bonuses then. But no, let's spend millions on fighting for low wages. Corporate greed all around. Look at all the money big oil raked in recent times. >

Wait a minute... does this mean those McDonalds commercials about career advancement and satisfaction are inaccurate?
I’m not loving it.
I’m not loving it at all. >

Rich people hate the real people making America work
The rich contribute nothing but hate, and try to take what is ours. I really hope Americans wake up soon and protest like most the rest of the world >

Raise raise raise!!!
Collective bargaining!!
Organizing!!
Make them get respect by treating their employees fair. >

Time for a boycott.
Striking workers has been big news lately, but not highly organized boycotts. We need to have both in our arsenal and be capable of deploying them quickly. >

I know that some boycotts work.  But how would it work against billion dollar companies?  I've heard of redditors calling for a boycott of EA, Blizzard, Gamestop over the years, yet nothing significant ever happened.  
The only way a boycott against McDonalds would work is if you manage to advertise so well, that millions of Americans simply stop eating at most fast food chains.  But it won't be because of their distaste in employee treatment (Americans are obese).  It would be because of skyrocketing restaurant costs (more than now), or just something that affects the food quality. >

because the average person doesnt actually care >

That's right, which explains why people shop and work at Walmart, that clearly caused the decline of quality of life for so many. >

The elites wanted a service economy,  well, we gotta have the pay to go along with it >

America, you guys really need to keep your capitalism in check. I mean, our capitalism isn't great, but holy shit. You guys are on a whole other level of greed. >

It’s not about money, it’s about control.  Same reason why no corporation wants medicare for all. >

During the pandemic I stopped going to these shithole fast food joints and started going to food carts instead,  small business that are owned by good people and I can choose from different types of food. The food cart scene blew up in my state(Oregon) from multnomah to Washington county and I feel better because it's a small business and I help the families. >

Paying workers more has always, for all of human existence, been more expensive than paying a small group to keep everyone else subdued. 
Politicians are great because they're a 2, 4, or 6 year expense, generally have brand loyalty (dependency), and are often useful long after leaving office. >

I'm not lovin it. I've only gone to McD's a couple times in the last 5 years or so, but now they're going on the Chik a Fila banned list for me. No more. Only supporting decently paying businesses. >

I look forward to the totally unrelated surge in posts in r/mildlyinteresting and the like along the lines of "Check out this old McDonald's Happy Meal toy I found in my attic" that always happens after stories like this. >

Thats how it is when cops shoot innocent black people. Theres always a bunch of videos they try to make viral about cops sliding down slides with all their gear on or lip synching to Taylor Swift videos. When those come out Im always like oh no, what did cops do now? >

Welp that sucks. Guess I won’t eat from chipotle 🤷🏼‍♀️ >

Hey burn them all to the ground >

I went to the Chipotle near me, they don't take orders in person?!! I was told I had to order through the app. I walked out. >

How many ways does it need to be said, they don't care about us. Greed has become the master of our leaders. >

Business Executive logic: 'We have to spend whatever it takes to block labor cost increases or it will just keep spirally up!'
Like a lot of other oppressors who fear the strength and numbers of those they oppresse, they know just how big the gap is between what's fair and what's actually being given to workers.
But they do this over and over any time their power wanes and labor gets stronger. In the end they spend more time and resources fighting to keep their oversized piece of the pie instead of just being fair and equitable. It's inevitable with capitalism once those with wealth and power take over those who had the power to regulate or hold them accountable. >

Keywords “spending Millions to block raises for their workers” >

Imagine paying money to stop your workers from getting raises instead of giving them the money you're giving to lawyers. >

I'm confused why it would raise the minimum wage for restaurant workers to $22 an hour while everything else is $15.50 per hour. That makes 0 sense to me >

Wait until Schulz and Starbucks dwarfs them all and donates billions to the GOP. >

Thanks to unchecked and unregulated capitalism we can all look forward to a future where we own nothing and we are wage slaves to our corporate overlords. >

Don't have to look into the future to see that life. >

And the cat is out of the bag. >

In-n-out where I'm from already starts you at $18 plus their benefits, I've also never met an unhappy in-n-out employee. 
Chipotle and McDonald's I cannot say the same. >

so what you are saying it isn't a money issue. >

Cool, I’m excited for the quality to drop even more than it did in the past three years. >

Can't stand Chipotle, but I though In-N-Out was one of the few fast food joints that paid their employees well? >

They do. They just want to keep it low to make theirs look high and get those who actually wants to work in the service industry. They’re investing on making their competition suck >

Spending money to not spend money to pay your workers shows the exact reason by untethered capitalism can suck a peepee. >

Capitalism is the best! >

In-N-Out? Don't they pay their employees pretty well? They always advertise decent wages near me. >

They are not greedy they are just trying to win at capitalism. >

A small burger combo is a $15 dollar ordeal now. 
A starbucks small coffee and danish is $14. This is outrageous. 
A small chinese noodle bowl is $12. You used to be able to feed a family for that price, just 5 years ago. >

The CEO of Chipotle makes $17,459 an hour while the median wage for a Chipotle worker is $15 an hour.  That's almost 1,200 x the salary of the median employee.  They can afford to pay more. >

Chipotle has gone way downhill in the last few years. Every restaurant I've been to is dirty, they're out of 40-50% of the items, and the prices are higher. Definitely don't know what they have to stand on at this point. >

They want to spend the money on R&D for robots.  I just McDonalds with a fucking burger elevator 🛗 >

They would save money just paying their employees a living wage >

These companies, Chipotle especially, charge way to high for their food already. Now there is absolutely no point in eating there. >

Idk why people eat these places. Food is horrible and the companies too. >

Every time I see the kitchens at In-N-Out, I am saddened by two very clear facts:


I will probably never work that hard the rest of my life.


I will probably never be paid as little the rest of my life. >

Chipotle using the extra money from the overpriced food to block raises for the underpaid worker, all the while instructing them to limit portion sizes for the customer thats already overpaying. >

Well, I know where I won’t be eating in the future. >

So they're spending loads of money trying to keep wages low instead of paying their workers higher...which probably is cheaper long term? >

In this economy less than 20 an hour it's not worth it, the hassle in the service industry is more pain than it's worth. >

I'm all for workers rights, labor unions, etc.
I do agree that workers in CA should be paid $22. That's an insane wage where I live, but that's more than reasonable considering the living wage in the state.
I think that's the thing to keep in mind: context. A minimum wage like that, a federal guideline (for now, with inflation being what it is it is check back in a few years...) would drive small businesses in my town out of business. Plain and simple. There would be nothing but wall to Walmarts and national or international companies. And thus, all the small businesses being gone, the corporations would be free to pull this shit, because they'd be the only game in town.
THAT BEING SAID.
The federal minimum wage should be a standard applicable across the country. The state minimum wage should reflect the state and the prices which the people are expected to live in.
These companies should keep this in mind. This is not the hill said companies should die on. If this was happening in Alabama, I think there'd be an argument. This is just corporate greed. In it's purest form. >


I do agree that workers in CA should be paid $22. That's an insane wage where I live, but that's more than reasonable considering the living wage in the state.

Not everywhere is San Francisco. California is a very big place and $22/hr is an insane minimum in 99% of the state. >

Definitely not 99%, I live out in the valley and that would be a livable wage. I was working for my city for the last 2 years for $16 and change. If i didn't have 3 roommates, I'd have been on the streets or needed a second job. Housing, gas, food, and other bills here are ridiculously high across the board, and im over 100 miles away from SF. >

The easy answer to all of this?  Stop buying corporate food. >

Cook every single meal.   Having someone else prepare your food is a luxury not meant for us peasants. >

Buy local.  Eat at Ma & Pa places.  Taco stands.  People give all of their money to these huge corporations then say ‘why don’t these corporations do what we want?’  They need to feel punishment.  I don’t patronize large corporations if at all possible. >

Pretty much everything local in my area is gone. >

It sucks.  Sorry to hear. >


The council had the authority to set sector-wide minimum standards for wages, health and safety protections, time-off policies, and worker retaliation remedies at fast-food restaurants with more than 100 locations nationally. 

I seriously question if this will survive a Supreme Court challenge (federal and/or state), even if it wasn't a Conservative majority.  This sounds like government overreach, in the technical sense, and a way to skirt the legislative process. Regarding the latter, why not simply pass laws to require all businesses to have what the law intends to. Why is it only food industry and why must it be done through a council? >

Fucking idiot capitalists. We don’t want to spend more on wages so let’s waste it fighting against wages instead. So much waste in greed. >

They are fighting to use it as bargaining chip in order to keep the inevitable change as low as possible. >

Why not just use the money for raises instead?  Why keep fucking your employees? >

Keeping people easily agitated, desperate and lacking any self-worth is all in the companies’ best interests. Nobody works for these companies because their life is going well lmao. They are dystopian and evil in their existence and we’ve built lifestyles for ourselves that enable them endlessly >

As far as I can tell, the law basically creates a union across all fast food restaurants (aside from those with carve outs. I wonder what lawmaker owns a Subway or Panera stock.)
I’m in favor of unions, but just make it easier to form them instead of giving an unelected commission this kind of power over an entire industry. This law doesn’t make sense to me.
I am a corporate McD employee but this is my opinion. The press release from Erlanger linked in the article is the company’s position. >

Corporate. Fucking. Greed. This is such a hot button item for me. >

As a Jersey Mike’s employee told me today, we are no longer in downtown Seattle bc minimum wage is outrageous. It is 15 an hour here, rent is 1700 at least for a box but ok! >

A $22 minimum would be restaurants would either increase food prices or hire less workers or close altogether. I get that we want to raise wages but why don’t people see the negative effects of doing this? It will hurt more people than it will help >

Maybe McDonalds can survive because they have global scale and are highly efficient. But go talk to your local burger and taco place. They are barely surviving and something like this would crush them - either because they would have to layoff staff and be overworked, or would need to raise food costs. >

This seems out of character for In N Out >

They want to keep their competitive edge in terms of wages. Their wages seem high cause the others are low. If the minimum wage rises, so must their wages as well to keep up with potential competition. >

I already don't eat at McDonald's or in n out. Sounds like I'll be cutting chipotle out now too. >

Most In-N-Out workers start at $16.75/hr. Not bad for flippin’ burgers. >

They could simply spend millions on just giving the raise. 🤦‍♂️ >

Imagine spending millions to pay people less instead of spending millions to pay people more >

$22 for the lowest fast food job is extreme. >

Is it really tho >

$40k / yr for fast food?  Yes. >

Food is already expensive. I really don’t want I to become even more expensive because they raise prices due to such a slaw passing. >

Well, which burger joints am I going to get F rated meat from, if not these clowns?