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I really don’t care what people think of me or trade workers in general. I’m just saying for those people it’s about time they got a taste of their own medicine
They get 2 months + 16 weeks + 1 week for every year they worked there + all the other stuff
They’re literally getting like 6-10 months of salaries, probably can start looking for a job right away. Unless it was somebody’s one and only dream to work at a specific tech company their whole life they’ll honestly be better off getting fired >

This isn’t true. If you are lucky enough to get a new job before the severance ends, you get paid from both. >

These links aren't to a single severance agreement offered.so I have a hard time buying that CNN and friends are providing the facts that are individual to each company and the individual being laid off. >

I literally collected full severance and worked a new job at the same time making more than the previous one in 2021. So I say CNN and friends is full of crap too >

Yeah I'll definitely believe anecdotal evidence presented by a random internet person over a law firm, employment website and journalists. >

And yet none of those things are anyone individual severance contracts.....are they....? >

Been laid off twice so far in my life. It suuuuucks, but my life continued.  I found new and better positions.  If they were worth the job they were doing, then they will find new work and excel in life.  If they sucked at their job and deserved the layoff, then they might not bounce back as well.  Either way the ball is in their court, crying about it on social media is a bad look. >

The thing with this tech layoffs is that the majority of people who are being fired nowadays actually do not come from IT backgrounds, but from Human Resources, Management, Recruitment... Roles whose purpose is to recruit as cheap as possible and keep the staff minimally happy with their job conditions. And if there is no recruitment to be made + less risk of your employees to sign off due to the economic environment, these roles are easily disposable.
In contrast to other roles, these people live inside LinkedIn and any other platforms where you can "brag" about your job career and your sucess, and thus it has been quite ironic to see all these tiktokers and other "job influencers" being laid off. And if you add that basically no one really knows what they actually do as their day by day work... you get this response. >

The weird thing about tech companies in my experience is that the techies are a minority and even they have groups within groups. 
You get a few core people who know stuff. Like, really know how it’s put together in the 237th combo out of a possible 600 combinations and why it must be that combination. 
Then you get grunts like me who hack stuff. We’re pretty disposable. 
Then you get non-techies who manage and organise. Very disposable. 
Those groups can have very different outcomes in a contraction, but sometimes accountants (or owners….looking at you, Mr Musk) make hasty decisions and get them wrong. >

What decision did Musk get wrong? Politics aside, Twitter is running fine with 50%+ fewer employees. Seems more impressive than anything else. >

He turned off bloatware and 2FA failed, for one. 
He let go the compliance people and might get bit hard for that one. 
I don’t remember the others. 
He’s a very rich idiot.
Above is a knee-jerk reply. It’s bad of me but at least I’m not doing that with a big company. 
I think where he went wrong is to assume that he understood a product that has evolved over a decade in a week. That’s naive. >

Most people don’t understand that programs are not static. They constantly need maintenance and updates. Stop that work and the software degrades. 
If you closed every car service department today almost every car would not be affected at all for a while. 
Over time, the entire car driving population would fail. 
I’m not a programmer but we deal with our software vendors and the majority of the people there are hardworking folks who have earned their spots. 
These layoffs are brutal and since they are all happening at the same time it makes their ability to get another job much harder. >

That ‘not static’ point is very well made. We do releases weekly, different teams affecting the code base. Slimming workforces at a stroke is dangerous. >

Aren't these the same profession of people who told rust belt workers who were upset at being laid off that they should "learn to code"?
Maybe they need to follow their own advice. >

Right? I guess in hindsight making all those tiktoks about how they litterally did nothing all day at their WFH jobs was a bad idea. >

Unfortunately remote working will lead to off shoring. >

Cleaning up messes made by outsourced workers was literally my last 2 paid internships in a nutshell. >

In the Sun Also Rises when Mike was asked, How do you go bankrupt? He responded: Two ways. Gradually, then then suddenly. 
Offshoring of more complex IT jobs will work in the same way. >

The big tech firms are weird. They are trying to the the center of their employees lives . Like their Head HR people talk about the spiritual health of their employees. 
If you buy into it when you work there your social lives and hobbies are usually center around the company.
These people got booted from not just there jobs but there community. >

Yeah I was genuinely pretty disappointed I didn't get laid off; our lottery winners got 4+ months of pay and resources to update resumes and apply elsewhere. >

I'm sure they'll bounce back.  I'd personally like to see mass influencer layoffs instead. >

They are often one in the same… >

Me who has never had a severance package.. Or any package.. >

Many of them weren’t doing their jobs in the first place, anyway. For example, if Twitter moderators were actually moderating instead of just sitting around and letting algorithms do any work for them, they might not be fired. >

This is basically "you can't be sad about anything that happens to you because someone else always has it worse". >

you can be sad but don't expect to feel sad for you. >

Same. I don’t wish them ill, but I don’t have much sympathy for them either. Why should I care more about a programmer than a miner or construction worker? >

Why should you care less? >

Because these are the same people when people in the trades are laid off respond with “lmao learn to code 💅“ >

Yes, categorically every tech worker looks down on and belittles trade workers. Just like every trade worker is a racist alcoholic, right?