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Great initiative, but it will take many months to set up the logistics and train the troops. I wish they had done this a year ago.
“France, Poland and the United Kingdom have pledged to soon send tanks for the Ukrainian military to use in its efforts to protect itself from Russia,” it says here, and “Finland is considering following suit.” >

Really important to note here that Finland has 200+ Leopard 2 tanks which they could easily ship to Ukraine and replace with Abrams from the US. That’s honestly the easiest method of getting Leopards to Ukraine since Poland has already given so many tanks it will take a year or so more for them to replenish stocks. 
Also important to note that Finland has a standard policy of not disclosing what types of weapons they provide. They usually just disclose “Finland provides $100m in aid to Ukraine” and that’s it. 
If you see an announcement like that in the near future it’s probably going to be Leopard 2’s and we won’t get visual confirmation for several months or so. >


Finland has 200+ Leopard 2 tanks which they could easily ship to Ukraine and replace with Abrams from the US. 

go on, elaborate please,  I want to see the logic behind that.
What they are going to do with those tanks ? and how long you think they will last ?Always interesting to hear an internet military expert , especially reddit expert. >

Same thing they've been doing with all of their other MBTs? Using them for hard points, support and as iron fists on operational spearheads
Western thermals and fire control alone also massively increase survivability
Ukraine still has Polish T72s in their ranks...they attrition the same as everything else, the more they have the longer it will take to run out. The tanks will last years, if they get low, they will use them more sparingly. Its like russian cruise and ballistic missiles - they haven't run out, but they are slowly using less and less in each strike to make sure they last long enough. >

Ok, T72s make sense since Ukraine has infrastructure and skills to use/repair it.
What they are gonna do with Leopards or any other tanks / APSc / IFVs ? People do not understand the amount of infrastructure, supply lines , engineers behind every fighing machine is massive + every person who is gonna use a new tanks needs to go through the proper training program, otherwise a tank will turn into useless metal  very fast.
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" The tanks will last years" well, most likely no. Sometimes even without a direct hit. >

Logistics are a valid concern. But there is significantly less involved with maintaining tanks than more complex systems like F-16’s. Let’s not forget every NATO country in Europe is using leopards, including next door neighbor Poland. 
Maintenance isn’t some impossible hurdle for Ukraine. They’re still using M-777’s and they modified MiG-29’s to shoot HARM missiles which were clearly effective in Kherson based on the number of dead Russian radar stations we see popping up on Twitter. 
A lot of the IFVs/APCs given are older model M113’s and now MARDER-1’s. These are much simpler to maintain and honestly similar to the existing Soviet stocks. A lot of maintenance difficulties come from post 1980’s weapons where complex electronics and optics really made Soviet and western systems start to deviate. >

I really really doubt all that stuff that the west waste in UA is gonna make a big difference. Germany threw Tiger tanks to the Western and Easter fronts in 1944-1945 , that tank was a way supperior to any allies tanks or Soviet tanks (maybe except IS-2), but that didn't help them. >

Wars aren’t won by individual weapons they are won by wider strategic efforts. Leopard tanks alone won’t make a difference. It’s the fact that the west is providing enough armor (across multiple models) to enable Ukraine to build more mechanized divisions as well as replenish their own losses. Conversely, Russia has squandered their best divisions in the early stages of the conflict and needs to rebuild them with mobilized infantry. 
That’s going to enable Ukraine to actually carry out more offensives. There’s no way Ukraine could have carried out offensives like the their second effort in Kharkiv without western aid. That entire rapid advance was enabled by American MRAPs and Humvees. 
Also Tiger Tanks sucked. They had horrible maneuverability and were a massive maintenance liability. >

Canada should just bite the bullet and send our  2a4 leopards that we are using for training and place a order for replacements. It will take a few years to get the replacements but it should ok. >

But what if you get invaded by USA, or Iceland? >

Guerilla warfare in the second largest forest in the world. >

You never know when those loose and crazy Danes will take back Hans Island again, and if they don’t leave the tasty schnapps it’s gonna be war time. >

Lol that shit is hilarious.  The friendliest border dispute ever. >

Honestly I wonder if spreading out LEGO blocks is part of Danish war strategy, I don’t know if we Canadians can handle it. >

The Whiskey War is actually over.  They settled on psrtitioning the island last year. >

Oh great now we have to share a land border?? What’s next, full scale invasion??!! /s >

Yep. We now have a land border with the US and Denmark.  They have a land border with Germany and Canada.  I suspect conspiracy. >

Queue the Russians crying about it in 3,2,1… >

Russia keeps talking about them already fighting NATO so a few more tanks shouldn't hurt, right? >

They are currently fighting NATO's entire strength... but small quantities of last generation equipment is an escalation so severe it may require a nuclear response. >

Sound investment in our collective security. >

Shit, at this point send them a battalion of M1A1s that the marine corp got rid of. >

Send the Marines in already and watch as they single-handedly end the war in 4 weeks. >

4 days if you give them air support >

If you give them air support you won't even need to send them in to be fair. >

And alot of blue crayons in case they get hungry