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NGL…I like it.  Don’t like him, but this is good.
Why don't they propose a law, that makes what tikTok is doing, illegal?
Don't just ban them, prohibit anyone else from doing the same thing >

Because they still want to use American tech services to spy on people. >

So let china do it? >

What is China doing with it versus the US? The republicans would use social media to track down their enemies. >

They don't know what china does w it and that makes them wary. >

It's not quite that. It's that a recent national security law in China makes it mandatory for Chinese companies to turn over harvested data to the CCP if called to do so (my understanding of it anyway). It's a holdover from Trump's failed trade war. >

I want to ban Josh Hawley nation wide. >

how about galaxy wide? >

Nah…I want the Russians suffer as much as possible. They can have him. >

I doubt they'd suffer him for long. Lots of tall buildings with open windows in Russia. >

Doesn't even need to be in Russia. A few Russians died questionable deaths in India recently. >

"That's, that's enough music for now lads, there's dirty work afoot."
Brave Sir Hawley ran away.
("No!")
Bravely ran away away.
("I didn't!")
When danger reared it's ugly head, 
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
("I never!")
Yes, brave Sir Hawley turned about 
And gallantly he chickened out.
("You're lying!")
Swiftly taking to his feet, 
He beat a very brave retreat. 
Bravest of the brave, Sir Hawley! >

Cue the coconuts. >

Josh Hawley holding office is proof how feckless the 14th Amendment actually is. >

That's great but I don't trust his motivations or his ability to actually get it done so....fuck this fascist asshole >

Who cares about motivations when it's literally Chinese spyware? If it's gone it's gone. >

The motivation for China to “spy” on our data with tiktok is the same motivation behind targeted ads on facebook >

Right, because targeted ads and government spying is the same thing. >

Not in this case, the Chinese government is not spying on you looking at Fortnite compilations on tiktok. China is not a boogeyman that’s out to brainwash US citizens with their devil app. They have enough internal struggles governing their own population to be worried about the average wage starved American youth >

You’re really underestimating the capabilities and intentions of the CCP. >

Please enlighten me as to what the intentions of the ccp are >

I vote we ban Hawley and TikTok >

The nation wants a Josh Hawley ban >

He probably wants to ban porn too. >

Josh Hawley is a well known coward and is right about these algorithm driven brainwashing tools. 
Josh Hawley would be scared of the person reading this sentence if they passed him walking the street and he is correct that stock trading for Congress should be banned. >

Broken clock yada, yada... >

I was literally downvoted last week on here for saying it’s a bad thing that Pelosi said “I deserve the rights to continue stock trading.”
So I think this subreddit approves of it, as long as it’s a Democrat/Speaker? Not really sure. >

Oh look, a stopped clock. >

It doesn't address the bigger problem with Chinese spying.  This is typical republican "my base will understand this concept" government.  There is a way way bigger issue here and the republicans have latched on to the performative antics. >

Not because of the threat it poses but because he wants to cut off the preferred communication platform of the generation that is most likely to vote against him and his MAGAtraitor colleagues. >

TikTok is overrun with right wing crazy shit, toxic masculinity and other BS, it’s owned and operated in china and being used as a device to divide the American people through algorithms that lead you to polarizing topics regularly and quickly. Just start swiping through it and you’ll get joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Andrew rate or some other big conservative spokesperson spewing BS >

The algorithms aren't unique to TikTok. In fact, they're just copy-cattimg Facebook and Elon has openly admitted Twitter is manipulating feeds to shovel right wing propaganda at progressives. >

The difference being only one is run by a competing world superpower and is actively  stealing user data in an effort to influence elections. International influence garners a little more urgency >

Facebook literally gave data to Cambridge Anlytica so that they in turn could.give it to Russia.
Edit: so the actual difference is, one is undermining the US for political and world power gains, the other ris undermining the US for profit. >

Fuck em all tbh >

Agreed. >

I'd like to ban their data collection practices  worldwide but can we please ban that cowardly traitor Hawley first. >

Yada yada from my cold dead hands >

Obligatory Fuck Josh Hawley >

Who’s paying him to care? Looking at you Facebook and Google … asking for a friend. >

But then where will Matt Gaetz covertly creep on underage girls? >

TikTok should be banned but I never trust a conservatives's reasoning for doing something even if the action itself is the right thing. >

right, fuck both of them. >

This whole thing has never been about Chinese spying. It is about controlling access to information that doesn't align with their beliefs. If we were so worried about a country spying on us we wouldn't have allowed Saudi Arabia to buy a sizable chunk of Twitter.
There is a well spring of knowledge, education and organizing that happens on that platform that the right can not easily control. We have let Facebook sell our info for years to the highest bidder. >

A broken clock is right twice a day. Josh Hawley is a gigachode. >

Republicans are scapegoating TikTok and China so you don't keep looking at how rich the rich are getting even more rich and everyone else is getting poorer. >

How much did that cost Face Book? >

so much for capitalism and us being free people's
you know who is spying on all of us. they all are that is how they make their money
google, apple, microsoft, facebook, verizon, walmart, comcast, etc. they all handed our data to federal/state governments whenever they ask without any warrants or any crimes...
also nsa sucking it all up with help from at&t and others. >

Fuck me I agree with josh Hawley on something >

They want to ban the social network being used by young people since Elon can't buy it. That's all this is about. 
Our homes are filled with Chinese electronics reporting back a hell of a lot more than TikTok, which is heavily limited in what it can collect by Google and Apple's operating systems.
Look at what the fascists did in Hungary. They made up excuses to ban all foreign media via law and courts at the same time far right billionaires bought all the local media. This is exactly what's happening in US now >

Why not ban both?  Neither are good for the country’s mental health. >

This should help with the young vote /s >

Yes, because TikTok and not daily mass shootings is the real threat to society >

He’s just mad that no one will like any of his videos >

Ban the fuck out of TikTok, I don’t give a shit if my own country spies on my it’s gonna happen regardless of some app but no way to I want china continuing to manipulate users >

Do it. >

For those who are saying "wtf, why do I agree with him". You have fallen into a trap. The trap is that the media has successfully convinced you that you have fundamental disagreements with other americans. While there is a subset of opinions that you probably highly oppose, the reality is that American politics is very moderate and most people agree with people on most things, it's just that the few things that we disagree on become hot topics. Notice how we aren't debating all sorts of things other countries deal with. Like banning free speech, or nationalizing industries, or morality police, or almost anything other than issue where Americans split right down the middle on (Abortion, entitlements, immigration). If a foreigner were to ask the average American (not the average redditor) where they stood on most issues, they would find that Americans generally agree on most things. This is why we also have a massive stalemate. There are not big issues where the government is fundamentally opposed to the people. While there are some issues around the edges (corporate tax rate, immigration controls, etc), those are small issues compared to what most nations are dealing with. >

Or ... he's a broken clock. >

Lol our spy agencies don’t wanna share >

This is the second time today I almost agree with Josh Hawley, wtf is going on today?  Holding out on full agreement until I've read the fine print...  I do not trust this jack ass to not fine print full on fascism into his works just to sneak it in somehow >

It's a PR move by him. >

The US would do much better banning Josh Hawley and his colleagues nationwide. The benefits of such a ban will be enormous greatly improving the lives of all Americans across the board. >

Good luck with that. >

Maybe he should just RUN 🏃🏃🏃and do that! >

Any chance that's on TikTok? ;) >

He wasonly elected because of the amount of meth missouri hillbillies smoke. >

Watch out! Republicans are coming for our tik tok! >

All right and left politics aside.
Do people on the left and right agree with this? >

So only us companies can invade our privacy? Why don't you draft a bill to stop intrusive data mining and spying on customers ?!?! 🤔 >

How about extend that to all companies including US ones than >

This guy is just running around trying to get attention. He knows none of these ideas are going to fly. >

Fist pump McRunpants >

Same! Let’s just do all social media, fuck it >

Too many videos of him running like a scared hen on January 6. >

Never thought I’d agree w this guy… tiktok is a national security risk