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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

There is no need to warn, because everything is attributed, and the claim that there are no independent sources in the article is false.


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KOI

If necessary, you can add more sources, but you can't see the need for it yet.


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KOI

And considering that Ayurveda is, in your opinion, a pseudoscientific practice, which you decided to hang a template about, there is not much to talk about.


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KOI

Morihėi


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

16:14, July 5, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

The fact that you finally added an independent source to the article is great, but the rule requires that the article be written from secondary sources, and the primary sources are used only for illustration and confirm information from them.


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KOI

Is the concept of ama considered in detail in independent sources, or are they limited only to stating that Ayurveda has such a concept?


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KOI

If the second, the article may be put up for deletion due to unproven significance.


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KOI

Tucvbif???


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KOI

* 16:50, July 5, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

That's so sweet.


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KOI

The recommendation in the rule suddenly became a requirement.


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KOI

Well, this is the end of the conversation.


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KOI

And if you keep fooling my ass, I'll raise the issue of persecution on your part.


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KOI

I hope I've been clear.


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Morihėi


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

17:58, July 5, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I've studied your contribution a little bit, and I can see that you have a lot of experience in playing with the rules.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Well, let's try it.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Tucvbif???


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KOI

* 18:05, July 5, 2018


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Try to start by following the decisions of the mediators and studying the rules that you are here, to put it mildly, freely interpret, and not by prosecuting participants and violating the ethics rule.


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KOI

It will be useful.


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Morihėi


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

18:16, July 5, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I do not see point-blank decisions of intermediaries that would not allow you to hang templates that you are so zealously rolling back.


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KOI

Would you quote them or something?


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KOI

Otherwise, I'm already thinking of putting the article up for deletion.


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—Tucvbif???


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KOI

* 20:55, July 5, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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Result


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KOI

The article was put up for deletion for discussion.


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KOI

As a result, its content was included in the Ayurveda article, and this article became a redirect to the that section.


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KOI

The text can be moved back when


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KOI

(and if)


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KOI

it will grow to the size of a separate encyclopedic article and will show a separate encyclopedic significance of this concept on VP:OKZ.


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KOI

For today, this question is about using the {{affiliates}} template in Ama's article


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KOI

(ayurveda)


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KOI

is losing relevance


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KOI

(the redirect article should definitely not have such a template)


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and removed from consideration by the mediators.


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Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

19:29, November 24, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Conclusion of the candidate of philosophical sciences and sociologist Lunkin R.N.


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about the book “Zhuan Falun” and the conclusion of a specialist - Doctor of Philology Faktorovich A.L.


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We ask intermediaries to evaluate the source Lunkin R.N.


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and discussion [] —Nomos


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

09:56, June 27, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Lunkin's file is no longer downloaded, the storage period has expired.


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KOI

Faktorovich's file is downloaded.


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KOI

If Faktorovich was really officially involved as an expert in a court case, and this is truly his expert opinion — authority within the framework of Faktorovich's specialty


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KOI

(philology)


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KOI

Yes, in principle, you can use it.


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KOI

But the question arises about the reliability of the publisher.


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KOI

According to VP:AI and VP:PROV, the publications used should be available to everyone in libraries


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KOI

(including using interlibrary loan)


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or on fairly reputable Internet sites.


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KOI

And a similar file hosting, where any Internet user can, in principle, upload any file with any content


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KOI

(including changed or substituted)


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KOI

— Internet AI is not, it is no better than forums, blogs, unverified personal pages and social networks.


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KOI

The original expert opinion is not subject to mandatory official publication, and can only remain in the archive, from where it


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

(or a trusted copy)


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difficult to get


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KOI

(or even not for everyone who wants to).


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KOI

In this case, this source is authoritative, but not publicly available, and therefore cannot be used on Wikipedia.


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Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

20:02, November 24, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

kindly comrades Falun Gong.


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KOI

And from the very first lines it becomes clear who ordered the music: The basis for the production of the conclusion.


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KOI

This conclusion was made in connection with the appeal of the non-profit partnership Falun Dafa Center for Spiritual and Physical Improvement.


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Specialist details


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This conclusion was made by a religious scholar and sociologist, director of the Institute of Religion and Law, senior researcher at the Institute of Europe of the Russian Academy of Sciences, employee of the Center for the Study of Problems of Religion Institute of Europe of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Candidate of Philosophical Sciences Lunkin Roman Nikolaevich, who has 10 years of work experience in the specialty, author and co-author of more than 50 scientific publications, including publications “Religion and society. Essays on modern religious life in Russia”


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(M.-SPb. , “Summer Garden”, 2002), “Modern Religious Life in Russia. The experience of systematic description”


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(Volumes I-IV. Petersburg, Logos, 2003-2006)


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and “Atlas of Contemporary Religious Life in Russia”


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(Volumes I-III. Petersburg, Summer Garden, 2005-2008)


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KOI

For the sake of completeness, I would like to note that since August 28, 2018, the Institute of Religion and Law, on whose behalf Lunkin spoke on March 11, 2009, has not existed since August 28, 2018


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(see https://www.rusprofile.ru/id/2525839#okved): The Institute of Religion and Law has been operating since April 5, 1994, the OGRN was assigned on February 7, 2003 by the registrar of the FEDERAL TAX SERVICE FOR MOSCOW.


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Head of the organization: Director Lunkin Roman Nikolaevich.


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The legal address of the Institute of Religion and Law is 115035, Moscow, Kadashevsky 3rd Pereulok, 5, page 5. The main activity is “Scientific research and development in the field of social sciences and humanities”, 2 additional activities have been registered.


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RESEARCH PRIVATE INSTITUTION “INSTITUTE OF RELIGION AND LAW” has been assigned TIN 7718103485, OGRN 1037700166426, OKPO 29446604.


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RESEARCH PRIVATE INSTITUTION “INSTITUTE OF RELIGION AND LAW” was liquidated on August 28, 2018. Reason: Termination of the legal entity due to the exclusion from the Unified State Register of Legal Entities on the basis of Clause 2 of Article 21.1 of Federal Law No. 129-FZ dated August 8, 2001


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KOI

As for Faktorovich's work, we have evidence from Mikhail Sinitsyn, chairman of the Krasnodar organization of the Falun Dafa Center for Spiritual and Physical Improvement, who, according to Vladimir Oyvin, Deputy Editor-in-Chief of Credo.


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(although he was a little later at Sinitsyn's), said the following during the session of the Krasnodar Regional Court: One of the judges asked if the complainants had tried to conduct an independent examination of the case.


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Sinitsyn replied that “this was done, and the case file contains the opinion of Doctor of Philology, Professor of the Kuban State University Faktorovich, in which he believes that it is not established promoting the exclusivity and superiority of the Falun Dafa movement's teachings. We petitioned the court to interrogate this specialist, but we were refused.”


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KOI

Tempus/obs 21:06, November 24, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

It is a common thing in Russian courts for various extremist cases — one party orders its expertise from some expert organizations, the other from others, then the judge chooses which examination he needs likes it better, and makes a decision on it.


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KOI

In reality, it is more difficult there, but the general scheme is


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KOI

Wikipedia, which talks about the recognition in Russia of some Falun Gong materials as extremist, can easily refer to both expert opinions — but with attribution: what kind of expert and what he was attracted by the party to the case.


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KOI

This turns out to be an authoritative but affiliated source.


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KOI

And a good illustration of the fact that Falun Gong teachings


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KOI

(as well as in the Bible, the Quran, the Vedas, and much more)


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KOI

if desired, you can find and subtract anything — both things that can stimulate socially approved and law-abiding behavior of followers of the doctrine, and what can lead to destructive and wrongful acts.


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KOI

There is still a question about the reliability of the publisher, which I mentioned.


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KOI

If these expert opinions are in sufficiently reliable and trusted public AIs, electronic or paper, they can be used on Wikipedia, as mentioned above.


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KOI

The liquidation of a legal entity — a private scientific institution — does not affect Lunkin's authority in itself, if it is not known who and why decided to liquidate it.


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KOI

As with other scientific institutions, the works published by them retain the same level of trust and authority, even if the publishing institution is reorganized or liquidated.


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Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

07:42, November 25, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

If with clear attribution, then yes, probably possible.


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KOI

I mentioned the Institute of Religion and Law only because this opinion was issued on its letterhead, and not because Lunkin's authority directly depends on it.


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KOI

Tempus/obs 08:14, November 25, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

At the time when the opinion was issued, the organization existed and operated lawfully.


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KOI

It is probably possible to mention the years in which the Institute of Religion and Law existed, where appropriate.


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KOI

But it is impossible to talk about any forgery, falsification or hoax here.


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Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

11:02, November 26, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Alexander, I just pointed out affiliation.


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KOI

For the rest, I did not claim anywhere that Lunkin committed forgery, falsification and hoax somewhere in this conclusion.


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Tempus/obs 12:49, November 26, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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Preliminary result


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

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In the trial to recognize some Falun Gong information materials as extremist in the Russian Federation, different parties to this case appealed to different expert organizations and presented them to the court several expert opinions, including the discussed conclusions of R. N. Lunkin and A. N. Faktorovich.


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KOI

These sources of information should be recognized as authoritative in the areas of professional competence of expert authors


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(Faktorovich's philology, Lunkin's philosophy and sociology of religion), secondary


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(as they are an expert analysis of Falun Gong's primary information material), affiliated


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(as they were experts engaged by one of the stakeholders in the case).


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References to these expert opinions, as well as to the opinions of experts on the other side of the case, can be found on Wikipedia in the place where the trial for the recognition of part of the Falun Gong materials is described extremist.


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KOI

At the same time, it is necessary to attribute: indicate which expert came to such conclusions, in what field of knowledge this expert is competent, and which of the parties to that court case he was involved.


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KOI

This will make it possible to observe a neutral point of view and show that even professional experts can see different things in the same religious texts and come to opposite conclusions.


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KOI

A link to the Falun Gong website can be given if there is no better alternative, if the same expert opinion is not published in a neutral and/or more authoritative source.


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KOI

It is unlikely that Falun Gong supporters will directly forgery, change the text written by R. N. Lunkin.


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KOI

At the same time, the link to the site must be designed with the {{cite web}} template with the website or publisher parameter value so that the reader can clearly see that the link leads to a site associated with Falun Gong.


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KOI

You should not put links to my-files.ru or other similar file sharing service, where any Internet user can register under any name and upload any file, and where time is limited file storage, after which it is automatically deleted.


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KOI

Such a source is unreliable and may suddenly cease to be public, which contradicts VP:AI and VP:PROV.


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KOI

If there are no reasonable objections to this preliminary result within a week, it will become final.


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Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

11:32, November 26, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I don't understand if there is Faktorovich's conclusion somewhere else, except my-files.ru?


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If not, then you can't link to it, you can't take it into account without a more or less well-known publishing site.


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— Rafinin


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(obs.)


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KOI

07:09, December 1, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Dear colleagues, a source is presented in the discussion: SOVA Center's comment on the decision to ban Falun Dafa materials


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KOI

SOVA emphasizes that numerous violations were committed in the trial of Falun Gong materials, since the issue is quite serious, as confirmation of these violations was a review of GLADIS and Faktorovich's examination are given, and there are also examinations of Lunkin and Raskin, which also confirm that Falun Gong's materials do not contain extremist content.


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KOI

Wikipedia applies the principle of VP:VE, VP:NTZ, in our case, if the preamble states that Falun Gong materials are recognized as extremist in the Russian Federation, then according to VP:VES and VP:NTZ, I think it should be it is also reflected that there were violations in the trial of Falun Gong materials, as there are sources confirming this.


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—Nomos


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(obs.)


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KOI

07:23, December 4, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

“Comment by the SOVA Center [...] Sova emphasizes” — Firstly, this is a comment by a very specific employee of this organization, Maria Rozalskaya.


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KOI

And now attention, the question: How does this citizen satisfy VP:EXPERT?


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KOI

What qualifications does she have to make such bold judgments?


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KOI

“As confirmation of these violations, a review of GLADIS and Faktorovich's examination were cited, and there are also examinations of Lunkin and Raskin, which also confirm that Falun Gong materials do not contains extremist content.” — Secondly, by whom exactly is it cited?


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By the team of the electronic periodical Falun Da Fa Information Center?


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KOI

Rozalskaya does not have a word about all of the above in the text presented.


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KOI

Tempus/obs 08:12, December 4, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Dear participants in the discussion, I can't understand why the information that some Falun Gong materials are on the list of extremist literature is in the preamble?


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KOI

After all, according to the rule:


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KOI

What does Russian Wikipedia have to do with the Russian Federation?


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KOI

No more than any other state.


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KOI

Wikipedia is divided into sections according to the language of the content, not by “affiliation” to any state.


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KOI

The English language section is the main one for residents of a number of countries where English is the main language;


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KOI

I suggest removing this text from the preamble:


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“In Russia, Li Hongzhi's book Zhuan Falun, as well as information leaflets Falun Dafa in the World and World Torch Relay for Human Rights are included in the Federal List.”


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KOI

Umweiss


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

13:23, December 13, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

VP:NPC and VP:PROTEST.


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KOI

The text is supported by VP:NVI.


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Tempus/obs 07:42, December 14, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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Uv.


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KOI

colleague, in case of actions that are not clearly malicious, but may be a common mistake, you should be guided by VP:PD.


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—Igrek


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(obs.)


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08:01, December 14, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

The participant has already shown me his “intentions” once.


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KOI

Tempus/obs 08:09, December 14, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

In this case, the participant did not personally touch you.


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—Igrek


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

09:29, December 14, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I just explained why I think so.


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Tempus/obs 09:40, December 14, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I agree with my colleague Igrek, at the moment the atmosphere is quite tense around the topic of Falun Gong, let's not forget to follow the VP:PD rule.


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KOI

Umweiss


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

09:32, December 15, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Uv.


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KOI

Umweiss, the proposal to remove the mentioned text from the preamble of the article should be discussed on the discussion page of the article.


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KOI

In this case, only the remark regarding the appropriateness of mentioning in the Falun Gong article the facts about the inclusion of Falun Gong materials in the list of extremist literature in RF.


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KOI

But this issue has not been proposed for consideration by the mediators.


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KOI

For the preamble, expect the result of #Рецензия GLADYS in the Falun Gong article on this page.


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—Igrek


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(obs.)


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KOI

07:51, December 14, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Summed up the preliminary summary of the preamble, see the section below - #Рецензия “GLADYS” in the Falun Gong article.


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—Igrek


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(obs.)


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KOI

09:31, December 14, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

This thread is closed, continuing the discussion on Discussion:Falun Gong #Преамбула.


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—Igrek


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(obs.)


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KOI

08:17, December 18, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

intermediary comments


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KOI

Questions about the authority of the conclusions of specialists Faktorovich and Lunkin and the GLADYS review were raised on the Discussion: Falun Gong page, and they raised several difficult questions.


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KOI

In my opinion, the result should answer these questions so that they do not arise again.


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KOI

At the time of writing this preliminary summary, I have begun to explore issues related to summing up the preliminary results on both this topic and the topic of the GLADYS review.


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KOI

In my opinion, it is necessary to clarify the issue of using primary sources and point out the criteria for the primary/secondary nature of sources.


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KOI

Since there was already a summary of PTQa mediator on Discussion:Falun Gong #Иски vs. Falun Gong, which stated “In the future, information based only on primary sources should not be entered at all to the article”, and before that there was an explanation “Neither the court decision nor the link to the news about the trial are secondary sources on the topic of the article, since a)


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do not summarize primary sources on topic b)


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KOI

they don't consider Falun Gong's topic)


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KOI

are not authoritative on the topic.


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KOI

“it is necessary to consider the issue of primary/secondary nature of expert opinions so that no more such questions arise.


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KOI

In addition, it is necessary to clarify the limits of competence of religious scholars and philologists in the examination of extremism.


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KOI

I discussed the issue of summing up the final result with the facilitator Alexander Rumega, and it was agreed that I would summarize the second preliminary result on this request, and after discussing it, it will be accepted the decision to summarize the final result.


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KOI

I hope my preliminary result will be within a week, I do not have much free time right now, and to summarize, I have to delve into some legal issues related to conducting such examinations.


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KOI

Until the preliminary result is available, participants can continue to discuss the topics raised here.


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—Igrek


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(obs.)


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KOI

19:13, December 5, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

GLADYS review of Falun Gong article


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KOI

Since the topic of Falun Gong has once again reached an impasse, we ask the mediators to assess the authority of the source:


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KOI


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KOI

based on this source, the following amendment is proposed as an addition to the preamble to the Falun Gong article:


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“According to specialists from the Guild of Linguists Experts of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Justice Moscow, during the examination on the book Zhuan Falun and other materials of Falun Gong, committed numerous violations of the law on the conduct of forensic examinations and exceeded the limits of competence.”


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—Nomos


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(obs.)


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14:58, April 30, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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Preliminary result


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KOI

1. Preliminary summary of the preamble.


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KOI

According to Wikipedia:Preamble, “the preamble is a brief retelling, a synopsis of the rest of the article, and should be written mainly according to the text of the article, if possible with links to the body of the article.” Although the preamble may contain information that is not in the text of the article, this is considered an exception “if it is impossible or impractical to create a separate section for it.” In this case, the preamble contains information that is important mainly to readers from Russia, in which case the information may be in the preamble, but it should be brief and not contain insignificant details.


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KOI

Therefore, further clarification of this information in the preamble is inappropriate, this topic should be developed in the text of the article.


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KOI

For the preamble, a brief mention of this information will be sufficient, with the topic being discussed in detail in the text of the article, for example, at the level


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KOI

(“a number of books published by F. on the territory of the Russian Federation are included in the Federal List of Extremist Materials”)


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KOI

or a little bit more, mentioning the year, number of publications, etc.


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KOI

Of the titles of the publications, the book of the founder of Falun Gong may be significant, all other publications in this case are insignificant to mention their title in the preamble.


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KOI

Participants should agree on an abbreviated text for the preamble on the discussion page of the article, the rest of the information should be transferred to the body of the article, and it is permissible to consider this topic already in the text of the article with all the details.


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KOI

Criticism of court decisions in this case is not significant enough to be mentioned in the preamble


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KOI

(this is appropriate in the text of the article), sufficiently significant facts may be


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KOI

(ie “may” but not “definitely are”)


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cases of cancellation of court decisions by the Court of Appeal and decisions on appeal to the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation.


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KOI

But even in this case, the preamble should contain generalized information.


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—Igrek


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

09:06, December 14, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

2. A preliminary result on the sources will be summed up later.


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—Igrek


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

09:06, December 14, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Igrek, is the information relevant for the preamble that the ECHR communicated a complaint against the ban on Falun Gong books and information materials?


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KOI

YIWAHAO


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

08:23, December 15, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

No, the significance of this information is clearly not comparable to the significance of the fact of the court decision itself.


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KOI

In this case, information about a positive decision on this complaint may be of close importance.


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KOI

Reports of complaints and appeals are the information noise of many lawsuits, which is of little interest even to the media.


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KOI

But the satisfaction of a complaint or appeal is already quite a significant event.


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KOI

—Igrek


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

14:57, December 15, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

IN. Sidorov


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KOI

I think the discussion is over.


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KOI

There, a colleague of Tempus asks me for independent secondary sources for my opinion, although for some reason he does not confirm his opinion with the same sources and cite some quotes, in my humble opinion, related to a phrase issued by a journalist.


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KOI

Please assess whether it is possible to use Sidorov V.//New Petersburg, March 12, 1998 — No. 10


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(314)” in an article about religious scholar Ivanenko, Sergey Igorevich for sections of negative reviews and external links.


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— Rafinin


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(obs.)


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KOI

11:40, March 22, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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Preliminary result


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KOI

If we consider this as a source of information about the fact of S. AND. Ivanenko of such statements at such a round table — then this is unlikely to be suitable for VP: the significance of the fact.


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KOI

At round tables, there is a free exchange of views in the form of oral statements, and these statements are usually not as thought out as written publications and speeches at authoritative scientific conferences.


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KOI

At the same time, journalist V. Sidorov does not quote S. AND. Ivanenko, and he briefly retells their meaning as he understands them, and Sidorov's article clearly shows a far from neutral attitude to the topic.


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KOI

U S. AND. Ivanenko already has a rich bibliography, many of his own statements in public AI, and such a source is clearly not required to express Ivanenko's opinion; he will not add anything significant to the fact that has already been written in the article on the views of S. AND. Ivanenko.


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KOI

If we consider it as an assessment and criticism, then on VP:VE, VP:MARG and VP:EXPERT, we do not use any statements of any people on the subject of the article — even if these statements are published in third-party publicly available authoritative sources of information, and there is no doubt about their authorship and authenticity.


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KOI

The points of view of experts/specialists on the subject of the article, states and state organizations, parties to the case and those who are authorized to represent them, others are usually weighty involved.


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KOI

The own assessment given by a little-known correspondent of the Novy Peterburg newspaper to professional religious scholars and philosophers is clearly a marginal opinion.


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KOI

It is not worth mentioning it at all, given that there are so many other assessments from people who are more competent in the religious sphere.


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KOI

There is also a big question about copyright and the reliability of publication when reprinting an article from a newspaper on religioved.narod.ru.


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KOI

Narod.ru is a service of free personal websites; any Internet user can easily create their own website there.


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KOI

This is not an authoritative publisher at all, no better than forums and blogs.


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KOI

You cannot take information to Wikipedia from such sites.


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KOI

A link to this site is hardly acceptable.


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KOI

The link to the article itself in the issue of Novy Peterburg is not suitable for the reasons described above.


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KOI

So, if there are no justified objections within a week, this preliminary result will be final, the link to this article and the paragraph based on it will be removed from the article Ivanenko, Sergey Igorevich.


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Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

15:50, December 9, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Alexander, in connection with what you have said, I have a question on another case, which, in my opinion, is like two drops of water.


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KOI

Namely, an article by Savenko and Yuri Sergeevich, where the section “The Aum Shinrikyo case and the lawsuit over the brochure “10 questions...” contains this text: Irina Uzzhina, a journalist of Obshchaya Gazeta, described the situation in 1995 with the conclusion of the commission for medical, psychological and legal assessment of the activities of some religious organizations, headed by Yu.


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KOI

AND. Polishchuk.


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KOI

The conclusion referred to “damage to the mental, moral and physical health of people” caused by the religious organizations AUM Shinrikyo, the Mother of God Center, and Krishna Consciousness.


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KOI

Uzzhina noted that the American Psychological Association wrote a letter to the leadership of the Serbsky Center and the Moscow Research Institute of Psychiatry, in which, according to Uzzhina, demanded that they answer, “how such things may be possible in a country where psychiatry has already been abused” and “how can it be that in a country carrying out democratic transformation, psychiatrists can be are involved in monitoring the activities of religious organizations and associations.”


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KOI

As a result of this letter, as Uzzhina points out, an emergency meeting of the Presidium of the Board of the Russian Society of Psychiatrists was organized, at which, according to Uzzhina, “with the consent of the professor himself Polishchuk, the conclusions of his own commission were recognized as invalid, and the recommendations on the participation of psychiatrists in state control over the activities of sects were recognized as abuse of authority” [1].


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KOI

Rafin and I had a discussion about this, and then we agreed on a more accurate attribution of opinion.


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KOI

However, now, seeing your assessment, I am inclined to think that with this approach Uzzhina has no place in this article, because she is exactly the same “little-known correspondent” and deals exactly the same paraphrase.


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KOI

Tempus/obs 16:52, December 9, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

This is not exactly the same.


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KOI

The significance of the underlying facts in question is clearly different.


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KOI

In the case of Ivanenko and Sidorov, there were just conversations at the round table


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KOI

(and it is not even known who really said what there — there are no transcripts, no quotes, there is only a retelling of a correspondent who is clearly negative about the audience and the topic of discussion).


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KOI

But, in any case, those words of Ivanenko and other speakers remained words, could hardly have any real consequences and affect anyone else but the participants of the round table themselves.


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KOI

In the second case, there was the conclusion of a specially created professional “commission for the medical, psychological and legal assessment of the activities of certain religious organizations”, which, as far as I I understand that then they tried to give expert status, and its conclusions — a certain legal or official force.


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KOI

That conclusion could have very real consequences for so many people, even led to a small international scandal, as a result of which the members of the commission themselves admitted that they were wrong.


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KOI

I think it is wrong to apply this result by analogy to that case.


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KOI

Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

08:03, December 11, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I am not referring to the initial facts, but to those through whom they are presented.


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KOI

Why is Uzzhina better than Sidorov?


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KOI

Tempus/obs 09:10, December 11, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I considered both sources in two aspects: both as reports of facts and as evaluation/criticism.


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KOI

I'm not accusing V. Sidorov in lies and forgery, I do not suspect that S. AND. Ivanenko was not at that round table, or what he was, but did not talk about the possibility of confusing the change in human consciousness under the influence of religion with mental disabilities.


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KOI

But this fact, even being reliably reliable, does not fit the VP:The significance of the fact.


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KOI

Well, conversations at a meeting of public organizations, that's all... Uzzhina in the fragment of the text you specified reports several facts, and those facts are much more significant than the fact of Ivanenko's statement on round table.


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KOI

It was an attempt to introduce a state psychiatric examination of creeds and religious practices


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KOI

(rather than the mental state of a particular person, as is usually done).


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KOI

This can lead to very bad consequences, even if experts are competent and impartial, and in the case of deliberate abuse, to tragic consequences.


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KOI

And, although that attempt failed, the danger of “religious and psychiatric” persecution in Russia still remains — take at least the recent case of Omsk charismatics.


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KOI

Therefore, the facts reported by Uzzhina remain significant.


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KOI

If Uzzhina gives any of her own assessments or criticism, then they, like Sidorov's assessments, cannot be taken.


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KOI

Uzzhina, as far as I understand, is a journalist, not a psychiatrist or a religious scholar.


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KOI

Therefore, there is no difference between Uzzhina and Sidorov in terms of the significance of opinions, but there is.


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Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

10:55, December 11, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

“Uzzhina reports several facts in the fragment of the text you specified, and those facts are much more significant [...] Therefore, the facts reported by Uzzhina remain significant.” — Well, where is the confidence that Uzzhina stated everything reliably and without significant omissions?


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KOI

Not to mention these things: “Don't tell me you didn't take the text from it,” that's right, not from it.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

As for the pages, I have a copy on hand without these pages.


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KOI

— Rafinin 12:26, March 8, 2015


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

https://yadi.sk/i/9xeTriO3f7V8F temporary link.


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KOI

— Rafinin 12:26, March 8, 2015


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

The link, by the way, has long been dead.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

This is to the question of what you said above: There is also a big question about copyright and the reliability of publication when reprinting an article from a newspaper on religioved.narod.ru.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Narod.ru is a service of free personal websites; any Internet user can easily create their own website there.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

This is not an authoritative publisher at all, no better than forums and blogs.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

You cannot take information to Wikipedia from such sites.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

A link to this site is hardly acceptable.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

The link to the article itself in the issue of Novy Peterburg is not suitable for the reasons described above.


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KOI

Tempus/obs 11:13, December 11, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

A wonderful argument, of course, even in bold you gave it to me.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

If you're so interested, let me explain.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

I made a request on the RSL website for this source.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

The RSL first told me that the material was temporarily unavailable for order, and then that they could not send me the source electronically, but only make a printed copy and send it by mail.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

I scanned this printed copy on one page and posted it on a Yandex disk for a while so that you can check it.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

There were no pages there, sorry, I can't help it.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Then I closed the access so that there would be no complaints against me about the distribution of links to copyright infringing materials.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

So, if in doubt, contact the RSL.


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KOI

— Rafinin


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

12:49, December 11, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Thank you very much for personally confirming once again that the verifiability of this source is very bad.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Just like the conclusions of Lunkin and Faktorovich: You should not link to my-files.ru or other similar file sharing service, where any Internet user can register under any name and upload any file, and where the storage time of the file is limited, after which it is automatically deleted.


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KOI

Such a source is unreliable and may suddenly cease to be public, which contradicts VP:AI and VP:PROV.


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KOI

Tempus/obs 14:15, December 11, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

“Library” verifiability for VP:PROV, VP:AI is considered sufficient, although we are already accustomed to receiving everything on the Internet and not going anywhere for information.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

If the source is an article in a newspaper, then not specifying the pages is not critical: there are not so many of them in one issue of the newspaper and it is not difficult to find an article by title when the newspaper is in hand.


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KOI

It is very desirable for books and magazines to specify pages, almost mandatory.


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KOI

Rafinin, you can send that scan copy to me at aroumega@gmail.com, as well as Tempus to your personal e-mail with a file attachment.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Or a link to a file sharing service with limited access.


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KOI

We can send working copies of copyright material to each other to work with when summing up the results and other actions on Wikipedia, which is even more or less.


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KOI

And posting on the Internet and putting links from Wikipedia to such a posted one is not.


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KOI

Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

18:33, December 11, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I sent it to you.


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KOI

As for a Tempus colleague, I'm not sure what he needs, but if he does, he can ask you.


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KOI

— Rafinin


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

09:20, December 12, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

As a rule, journalists from officially published registered media outlets on Wikipedia are considered to be quite authoritative sources of information about news facts.


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KOI

We can take such facts from leading news agencies even without attribution, from less reputable media, and in controversial cases, attribution.


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KOI

If different registered media give different answers to the question about the same fact, we present all points of view on VP:NTZ.


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KOI

And only for very unusual statements


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KOI

(WP:NEOB)


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KOI

more authoritative sources are required.


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KOI

Therefore, the reliability of the reported facts for Sidorov and Uzzhina is approximately the same and is at an acceptable level.


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KOI

The credibility of one's own assessments is equally unsatisfactory.


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KOI

But the encyclopedic significance of the facts is significantly different.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Due to this significance, it is possible to sum up different results.


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KOI

If the source kept silent about something significant, we will also have to keep silent on Wikipedia until another AI with more information appears.


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KOI

We can't think about anything on our own or write our own guesses.


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KOI

Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

18:33, December 11, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Result


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KOI

The preliminary result can be confirmed.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

During the week, Sergei Igorevich did not receive objections to the application of this result to Ivanenko's article; there was a discussion of another issue — whether this result can be applied by analogy to another source in another article.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

As far as I understand, it is impossible because of the different significance of the facts; this does not change this result.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

In the article by V. Sidorov “Have atheists changed their owner?” the Novy Peterburg newspaper has as a message about a fact — specifically about what S. AND. Ivanenko in 1998 at a round table of public organizations


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KOI

(in the form of a retelling without quoting), and an assessment of this meeting and those who spoke at it.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Facts and assessments should be considered separately.


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KOI

Journalists from officially published registered media outlets on Wikipedia “by default”


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KOI

(unless there is a compelling reason to say otherwise)


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KOI

are considered to be authoritative sources of information about news facts


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KOI

(but only about them).


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KOI

VP:Biographies of contemporaries allow you to take information about living people from such media.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Only completely unusual statements on VP:NEOB require more serious evidence and more authoritative sources.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

In this case, nothing so “incredible” is being said.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Of course, Sidorov's article feels far from neutral, but sharply negative attitude towards that meeting and its participants, including S. AND. Ivanenko.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

But the VP:NTZ rule applies to the texts of articles in the main Wikipedia space, and only to them, and not to the texts used by the AI.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Therefore, one should not reject the neutral AI on this basis alone, but retell in more neutral and scientific encyclopedic terms the meaning of what is written there.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

So, the article by V. Sidorov should be recognized as an acceptable third-party secondary authoritative publicly available source of information about the fact of S. AND. Ivanenko at that round table of public organizations.


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KOI

The fact itself can be considered quite reliable for Wikipedia purposes, but not significant enough in terms of VP:The significance of the fact.


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KOI

According to this rule and according to VP:NEVSEPODRYAD, not all facts related to the subject of the Wikipedia article deserve to be mentioned in this article, even if these facts are well known, sufficiently reliable, confirmed high quality AI's.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

What a person orally expressed on a certain issue at such a meeting of public organizations and individuals interested is hardly a significant fact of his biography in itself.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Such round tables do not have an official status, what is said at them has no legal force and does not oblige anyone to anything.


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KOI

Anyway, it is unlikely to affect anyone else, except for the participants of the round table themselves, it is unlikely to really affect anything.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

In addition, Sidorov does not quote or shorten Ivanenko, but only briefly writes about his understanding of his words.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

For all these reasons, S. AND. Ivanenko at a round table held by the Humanitarian Center of the Znanie Society in 1998 is not an encyclopedic significant fact and should not be mentioned in the article by Ivanenko, Sergei Igorevich.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

The journalist of “New Petersburg” V. Sidorov also gives his sharply negative assessment to the organizers and participants of that round table, their opinions expressed and the topic of discussion itself.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

There is nothing criminal in this author's assessment, but for Wikipedia it is unacceptable for VP:VES, VP:MARG and VP:EXPERT.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

On VP:NTZ, we strive to convey different opinions about the subject of the article; Wikipedia does not have its own point of view.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

However, not every statement made by any person about a Wikipedia article should be taken into account and mentioned in that article — even if this statement is published in a high-quality third-party AI, and it is not necessary doubt either the authorship or the authenticity of these words.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

The opinions of specialists on the subject of the article, the opinions of people directly related to it, in controversial and conflict cases — statements by the parties or their authorized representatives are encyclopedic significant.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Many other views should be considered marginal and not mentioned on Wikipedia.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

As far as we can now know, V. Sidorov is a little-known newspaper journalist, not a religious scholar, sociologist or psychologist.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

His personal opinion about religious scholar S. AND. Ivanenko, his own judgments on the topic of “religion and society” should be recognized as incompetent and marginal, and should not be used on Wikipedia.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Thus, reported by V. Sidorov's fact is not encyclopedic significant, and his opinion, attitude and assessments cannot be considered sufficiently weighty.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

That's why his article “Atheists Have Changed Owners?” it will not be possible to use Ivanenko and Sergei Igorevich as a source of information for the article.


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KOI

The relevant paragraph and link will be removed.


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KOI

Aleksandr Rumega


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

20:24, December 17, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Requests at the request of a Tempus member


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Can Fordham University be used as a source of quote: remains a “Jesuit, Catholic university” whose spirit “comes from almost 500 years of Jesuit history”


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KOI

(cancellation


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KOI

(in Sindhi))


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KOI

Can I use it as a source of a quote The authors of the report concluded that “the Chinese government and its departments in many parts of the country are primarily hospitals, but also centers detention and “people's courts” have killed a large but unknown number of Falun Gong prisoners of conscience since 1999” (repealed


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KOI

(in Sindhi))


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KOI

Can I use it as a source for approval In the specialty “History” in 2017, Fordham University ranked 79th out of 138 in the ranking of the best universities in the United States, which was included instead Fordham University ranks 16th in the ranking compiled by the Higher National School of Mining of Paris, made in relation to a person who received a diploma in history.


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KOI

(cancellation


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KOI

(in Sindhi))


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KOI

Thanks in advance.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Also, a small offtopic, please explain what the training is.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Tempus wanted by making this cancellation:


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KOI

(in Sindhi)


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KOI

with a description “made without relying on authoritative sources” and with the accusation of ORISSA on the talk page.


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KOI

—Nicoljaus


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

17:53, March 17, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

upd: Silence... As expected, the requirement of Uch.


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KOI

Tempus to consider the issue at NEARC-KOI was made on the basis of the belief that there were no neutral bona fide participants left in this mediation.


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KOI

—Nicoljaus


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

06:42, March 20, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

@Nicoljaus: I ask you to supplement the request with links to discussions that have already taken place in which it was not possible to reach consensus, as well as an analysis of the arguments already expressed, including on the NEARK-ZCA page.


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KOI

—Van Helsing


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

20:29, March 17, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Add what you think is necessary.


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KOI

Any links, but only links.


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KOI

—Nicoljaus


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

20:43, March 17, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I suggest that the mediators reject this request.


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KOI

—Van Helsing


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

21:11, March 17, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I suggest that mediators assess the participant's behavior.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

If the intermediaries have authorized a participant to issue such recommendations, it is worth stating this.


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KOI

—Nicoljaus


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

21:42, March 17, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I'm obviously


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KOI

(for intermediaries who have experienced this before)


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KOI

I mean the inexpediency of using the mediation apparatus before trying to resolve the issue on your own, as well as the inexpediency of considering arguments that do not exist or with which you agree.


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KOI

—Van Helsing


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

21:48, March 17, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

But the request was very simple: “Do not appear in discussions that do not affect you personally, do not discuss my behavior demonstratively, do not behave as described in AK:631. Your intervention has no positive effect.” —Nicoljaus


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

21:57, March 17, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

You did not accept the terms, and I would even agree to consider the Dvorkin discussions “not affecting me personally,” and the request fulfilled the canceling condition “If on my watchlist during this time your controversial edit will appear, requiring clarification to you again, for example, about primary sources, their independent interpretations,” so I'm very at odds with my conscience.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

I filed a request for your activity on the admin forum, and the immediate cause was several incidents in recent days, including this one.


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KOI

—Van Helsing


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

22:37, March 17, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

“Also, a small offtopic, please explain what you learn.


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KOI


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KOI

(in Sindhi)


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KOI


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KOI

” — I will also allow a small offtopic for intermediaries, as there was a recent request


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KOI

(Wikipedia:Mediation/Non-academic, atheism and religion/ZKA #Nicoljaus, VP:NIP, VP:E/VP:NO), and yet statements like “accused of Orissa” have been repeated not for the first time, which is great can be seen on the discussion page of Kobylinsky


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KOI

(“That is, you cannot specify the reason for the cancellation, instead you allow yourself another violation of VP:EP in the part “Unfounded accusations of violating Wikipedia rules and regulations."”; although this was filed request), and on the Reshetnikov discussion page


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KOI


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Tempus/obs 05:05, March 18, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Preliminary result


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Two months will pass soon, and there is no argument other than ad hominem.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

In this regard, the question “whether it is possible to use” these sources for these statements can be considered resolved in a positive way.


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KOI

—Nicoljaus


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

06:59, May 11, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Result


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

1. In general, it is preferable to use not primary, but secondary sources, so that there are no questions about the significance of the fact.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

In this case, the university's website was used to supplement the first paragraph of the preamble with unattributed information.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

The fact that the university, despite its secular trustees, continues the Jesuit tradition has already been written with a more correct attribution


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KOI

(“confirmed continuity”).


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

The significance for the preamble of the added information that “the spirit “comes from almost 500 years of Jesuit history” raises doubts, a secondary source is needed here, and in fact the same has already been said in words about the Jesuit tradition, and you can learn about the history of the Jesuits in an article about them.


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KOI

2. In general, it is preferable to use not primary, but secondary sources, often information from the primary source may violate the balanced presentation.


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KOI

The need to include a primary source in this case is not obvious, especially without specifying different opinions about the report itself.


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KOI

Everything you need is in the relevant article, to which the Coalition to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong in China refers.


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KOI

The need for one-sided


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KOI

(and full)


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

disclosure of the content of the report in an article about the coalition is not obvious, unless there are secondary AIs about the coalition itself, where the topic of the report is disclosed.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

In general, the importance of the coalition raises doubts, since independent secondary AI with a sufficiently detailed description is not visible in the article.


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KOI

But this is a separate conversation.


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KOI

3. The article about Dvorkin should use sources about Dvorkin.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

This means that it is necessary to delete not only about the “79th position”, but also about the “16th line”, which Tempus in an article with a link to some zagranitsa.info.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Alexandrine


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

06:28, May 14, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

I do not fully understand what the continuity of education “in Jesuit traditions” is, but the university itself, as we can see, continues to consider itself a “Jesuit, Catholic university”, is part of appropriate association, etc.


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KOI

A secondary source?


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Please: Further, Tempus returned the statement that the university “soon became an independent university under the guidance of a secular board of trustees, which nevertheless confirmed the continuity of education” in Jesuit traditions”, still without any reference at all.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

If the first event really happened “soon”, then the board of trustees was not “secular” but of laity, “independence” was not from the Jesuits, but from governments and official church jurisdiction, maintaining affiliation


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

(en:Independent school #United States).


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

And we can talk about the “continuity of education” since 1969, which is not “soon” at all.


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KOI

Thus, the article is now deliberately distorted.


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KOI

Why there are questions about the significance of the fact that is set out by the very first sentence in the About section on the official website, and which is not a “product promotion”, is still unclear.


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KOI

—Nicoljaus


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

06:45, May 16, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

The significance of the fact cannot be confirmed by the primary source


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KOI

Everyone can choose any fact at their discretion and consider it significant.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Therefore, if there is a dispute, you need a secondary AI that will filter out the facts.


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KOI

Discuss new links and sources, as well as text options first on the CO article.


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KOI

If you do not agree, contact intermediaries.


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KOI

—Alexandrine


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

08:02, May 16, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

The significance of the fact is shown by its position on the official website of the organization in the first sentence.


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KOI

This is the fact that the organization reports about itself first.


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KOI

It was THEY who chose this fact at THEIR discretion.


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KOI

—Nicoljaus


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

08:55, May 16, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

All the same, I once again want to draw your attention to the fact that the participant at the SO completed the discussion with such a remark addressed to me and now argues here with another, in fact, participant


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

(in this case I suppose it doesn't matter what happened to the intermediary).


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

I see in this course a way to ignore the opponent's claims to the proposed text.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Since the participant to systematize the arguments and material here in the request, undertaken a couple of months ago, faced an instruction, and now de facto without information that from the previous participant I have to get involved in a new dispute, for example, with the question of what specific fact “the organization reports itself first of all”, and that's it remains on the SO.


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

Perhaps if, after analyzing and weighing my arguments, the participant considered them or part of them valid and issued a new version of the text taking this into account, then there would be no point in new requests, discussions and so on.


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KOI

—Van Helsing


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

13:14, May 16, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Information about the conclusions of the report is necessary for the coherence of the presentation - why did Australia suddenly cancel joint programs with China at the request of some newly created NGO.


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KOI

The article is essentially a translation from en:Coalition to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong, and it's all there.


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KOI

If Ru-Wiki undertakes to censor, then think about how to rewrite the article so that the logic of the presentation is preserved.


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KOI

—Nicoljaus


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

06:45, May 16, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

If someone translated an article, but did not translate and add a violation of NTZ, ORISS and VEZ, then this is not “censorship”, but compliance with the rules of the ruvika.


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KOI

And if someone does not comply with these rules, and their implementation is called “censorship”, violating the DS, then such a participant may be limited in editing.


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KOI

—Alexandrine


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

08:02, May 16, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Whoever translated the article did everything right:


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

(in Sindhi)


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

But then “someone” arbitrarily deleted parts of the text, not caring about the final form of the article:


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

(in Sindhi).


Question: What is the first work written by Roman Nikolaevich Lunkin?

KOI

And this is really a violation of the NTRP.


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KOI

—Nicoljaus


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

08:55, May 16, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)


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KOI

Done—Nicoljaus


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KOI

(obs.)


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KOI

06:45, May 16, 2018


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KOI

(UTC)